<LnL> Ericson2314: either way, I'm just messing around a bit, if you have other ideas let me know
<LnL> this still doesn't solve my main gripe with the current stuff, ideally bootstrapping issues would give somewhat understandable errors of what's available where instead of confusing recursion cycles
<Ericson2314> @LnL7 Maybe you can try the cross stuff
<Ericson2314> Even without new bootstrap tools
<Ericson2314> Then you don't need to unroll boostrap tools
<Ericson2314> See the the thing in stdenv/boot.nix or whatever (I'm on my phone) so you don't have pkgs == buildPackages
<LnL> you mean using the cross stuff for a -> a?
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<__monty__> Maybe people here are less abrasive/unhelpful than in #macosx. I have some thumb drives formatted with UDF, as a filesize-unrestricted FAT alternative.
<__monty__> This mostly works fine. But two of these drives have nothing on them except for a .gnupg directory. And these two I can never eject. I always have to force-eject them using Finder.
<__monty__> I think last time I looked into it the problem was `mds` (Spotlight) not letting go of them.
<__monty__> Does anyone have an idea of what might be going on or a fix?
<__monty__> Or can anyone reproduce this issue? (I wouldn't be surprised if the drives turn out to be the problem, have run into enough thumb drive malfunctions to be suspicious.)
<evelyn> I don't know about UDF, but I have had severe trouble with exfat filesystems created on the Mac. Sometimes it refuses to eject, and upon putting it back in it doesn't mount it. The only solution is to run an fsck on a Linux box which has no trouble mounting them.
<evelyn> THere is some process which seems to eat them for dinner. The only solution was to recreate it on a Windows machine sadly.
<evelyn> (I guess that's not that helpful. The drive itself was perfectly healthy - it was an external SATA SSD)
<LnL> __monty__: you can create a magic file to stop spotlight from indexing a certain voljme or path IIRC
<__monty__> LnL: I tried adding it to the list under spotlight/privacy in system preferences. And I tried adding a file `.metadata_never_index on the drive. Neither worked.
<LnL> even after remounting?
<__monty__> Yeah
<__monty__> And no amount of mds killing allows me to eject the drive.
<LnL> hmm in that case, what makes you think it's mds?
<__monty__> lsof
<__monty__> Or wait.
<__monty__> There was something about lsof on macos. Maybe sudo lsof is enough and if not I looked for another way to find out.
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<__monty__> Yep, sudo lsof. Lists a ton of `mds` and `mds_store` processes meddling with the drive.
<__monty__> Hmm, actually, tried the .metadata_never_index on the second drive exhibiting this problem and it did work this time.
<LnL> does the list change consistently?
<__monty__> Hmm, can't reproduce it with the other drive anymore either.
<__monty__> A reboot of the mac must've affected this.
<__monty__> Doesn't exactly inspire confidence that apple respects privacy though. Why would spotlight be so interested in a drive that only has a couple KB .gnupg directory? How long can it possibly take to read a couple files and decide they're not worth indexing because they're random gobbledygook?
<LnL> I just have spotlight disabled enirely
<__monty__> I'm not surprised. It gets in the way surprisingly often.
<__monty__> Kinda weird how it didn't used to be an issue on older slower machines too...
<__monty__> I've managed to disable just the right parts of spotlight to make it useless but still be annoying >.<
<LnL> I use launchbar so mds is just a waste of resources
<__monty__> How does it compare to quicksilver? I still haven't been able to let go.
<LnL> whoa, that brings me way back :)
<LnL> pretty similar, don't remeber the exact reason why I switched over
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<LnL> yeah, that issue got pretty off topic IMHO
<LnL> the solution is also not ideal, I'm still a bit scared about fully my pr without more exposure
<gchristensen> heh
<gchristensen> I haven't even looked at you PR
* LnL writes some docs...
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<LnL> nice 206 / 343, that's going faster than I expected
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<evelyn> that tweet doesn't strike me as very constructive
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<LnL> not that bad if you exclude the dates
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