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<LnL> clever: strange, what version?
<clever> LnL: for the darwin or nixpkgs?
<LnL> the os
<clever> booting...
<clever> it has also been nagging me to update for a few months
<clever> LnL: 10.12 sierra
<LnL> that should still work, my I builder is still on that
<LnL> what minor?
<clever> how do i tell?
<LnL> sw_vers -productVersion
<clever> Michaels-iMac:~ clever$ sw_vers -productVersion
<clever> 10.12
<LnL> oh so it's 10.12.0
<clever> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 82K Sep 13 2016 /usr/lib/system/libcache.dylib
<clever> the file in question does exist on the host
<LnL> guess some stuff changed along the way to 10.12.6
<clever> [clever@amd-nixos:~/apps/nixpkgs]$ nix-build -E 'with import ./. {}; enableDebugging hello'
<clever> building '/nix/store/c3prcfk9g8mx5rfbh6rnb0bx03dmi4rb-hello-2.10.drv' on 'ssh://builder@192.168.123.12'...
<clever> weird, now it works
* clever is puzzled
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<matthewbauer[m]> clever: I don't think that works on macOS? We can probably get it working though with https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/52148 fixed
<{^_^}> #52148 (by fghibellini, 6 weeks ago, closed): clang on OSX doesn't output DWARF symbols like the one shipped with OSX
<clever> matthewbauer[m]: wasnt really wanting debug info, was wanting a cache-miss, to force a build
<matthewbauer[m]> Oh ok
<johnw> LnL: how do I add a new framework to apple_sdk? I need NetworkExtension and NetworkMenusCommon
<johnw> ah, found frameworks.nix
<johnw> hmm... appears they are in 10.10
<LnL> yeah add an entry to frameworks.nix
<johnw> it said it couldn't find the headers
<LnL> I don't see it in the sdk
<johnw> I'm in Xcode right now, able to build an xcodeproj that I want to manage with Nix
<johnw> in its Frameworks list, it has those two
<johnw> when I try to build it in Nix, it complains that the headers from those frameworks are missing
<johnw> when I add those frameworks to frameworks.nix, it says that the headers aren't available
<LnL> according to the docs it's in 10.10 but I don't see it in the sdk
<johnw> huh
<johnw> that's odd
<johnw> i see /System/Library/Frameworks/NetworkExtension.framework
<johnw> on 10.13
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<LnL> hmm, maybe they used to be private?
<johnw> LnL: I was able to upgrade to latest after a few Haskell 8.4 fixes, and pinning zbar and xquartz to an older version of nixpkgs
<johnw> and I tag my repo every time a commit full evaluates my configuration
<LnL> oh, neat
<johnw> over time, I check whether I can delete entries from last-known-good.nix
<johnw> recently I was able to clear most of it out, which was great
<LnL> I think the nix-channel/nix-env replacement should do something similar to that and generate an expression for you instead of the hidden manifest files that loose a lot of information
<LnL> johnw: those two should be fixed on master now
<johnw> that's great, I'll keep an eye for it to land on unstable
<johnw> i tried tracking master again, but it rebuilds too much too often
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<LnL> yeah, it's a bit better with the extra build capacity tho
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