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<michaelpj>
jlode: hmm, I've seen that one bite multiple people, I should probably add it to the troubleshooting section
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<ocharles>
Yea, I added a tip about that to our internal work documentation on setting up our private cache
<ocharles>
It got me!
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<DigitalKiwi>
why is there not a way to make the cache directives a part of the project
<DigitalKiwi>
(or is there i'm not aware of)
<__monty__>
DigitalKiwi: Because caches imply trust.
<DigitalKiwi>
well if i'm compiling something i download off of github; if i can't trust them with a cache how can i trust their code? and half the time the instructions are `cachix use` anyway
<__monty__>
So I haven't progressed on the cross-compiling issue from yesterday. As ocharles pointed out, this line (https://github.com/toonn/taskell/runs/1846286706?check_suite_focus=true#step:5:16615) is missing a `--dependency=terminfo=blah` argument. What is the next step in digging into this? Is this command generated by haskell.nix or cabal?
<__monty__>
DigitalKiwi: Trusting code v. binaries are different levels of trust. I also wouldn't like projects messing with my nixpkgs.config, so that leaves projects managing their own cache which sounds like herding cats. More magic means less control. It's not as if adding a binary cache when you want to is hard.
<__monty__>
Both the project and nix itself are also still in flux so IMO it's understandable UX isn't the highest priority yet.
<DigitalKiwi>
nixos is 18 years old
<DigitalKiwi>
it's older than fedora
<DigitalKiwi>
though having red hat behind it probably gives it some advantage :)
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<ocharles>
__monty__: I do think a project should be able to say "I want to use these caches", and trust can be configured elsewhere. So If I haven't trusted the cache, Nix can say "whoops, I wanted to use this cache but you don't trust it. Continuing without using it"
<ocharles>
Much more explainable than putting a note in a README
<__monty__>
Sure but like I said haskell.nix is quite new still. I understand the focus is on their business use case first and the wider community second.
<__monty__>
DigitalKiwi: Haskell.nix is only a year or maybe two old by this point, certainly not older than Fedora.
<DigitalKiwi>
i wasn't talking about haskell.nix i meant nix in general
<__monty__>
Afaict flakes is a step towards linking caches to projects.
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