qyliss changed the topic of #spectrum to: A compartmentalized operating system | https://spectrum-os.org/ | Logs: https://logs.spectrum-os.org/spectrum/
<pie_> "The difference between the versions is in how the colored ring is implemented, since standard SVG has no way of drawing conic gradients. The browser version uses an embedded HTML element with a CSS conic gradient, and the Inkscape version uses the not-yet-standard SVG Mesh Gradients. " what the hell xD
<pie_> well it works
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<qyliss> pie_: welcome to SVG
<IdleBot_4fae1f80> Me, with Firefox 83: works fine in both places on spectrum-os.org, and also invokes associations with perimeter defense instead of compartmentalisation
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<superherointj[m]> Hello. How is this project going? Is it alive?
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<qyliss> Project is a live, but I'm taking a break until early next year because I'm a bit burnt out on it :)
<superherointj[m]> This project is quite ambitious and important. Do you think would be possible to break it down to more doable chunks? Split in phases? Keeping an ongoing donation campaign could prove helpful too. I've just found out about it. I hope it succeeds.
<qyliss> There are quite a few ongoing donations already :)
<superherointj[m]> I mean being more explicit about it. Milestones and targets.
<qyliss> Yeah
<qyliss> I do have those for the grant funding, but I'm hesitant to publish them because I'm worried about people second-guessing whether they've been hit or not
<IdleBot_4fae1f80> Please (this is of course about passer-bys, regulars remember) do not forget that all the steps currently planned should still count as a prototype unless you follow the details and limitations.
<superherointj[m]> Not that grant funding. I mean being explicit about milestones (a list of them) and donation goals. Instead of being hidden in footnotes. Hopefully this could enlist more people. Just so people understand, project is alive, and waiting for funds (sort of), and they can contribute.
<qyliss> Having some explicit milestones on the website could be a good idea
<superherointj[m]> And also letting people know project is alive and waiting for their contribution. Even minor updates helps people to keep engaged. It doesnt have to be anything fancy. Simple stuff.
<qyliss> I used to do weekly updates before I got burnt out
<superherointj[m]> * And also letting people know project is alive and waiting for their contribution. Even minor updates help people to keep engaged. It doesnt have to be anything fancy. Simple stuff.
<qyliss> those are linked from the home page
<superherointj[m]> Don't do weekly. Do it every 2 months.
<superherointj[m]> LIke that.
<superherointj[m]> It is better something than nothing. That is what I am trying to say.
<qyliss> I think two months is actually harder than weekly
<qyliss> Because weekly I can integrate into a routine
<qyliss> and they're shorter
<ehmry> as far as a I can tell its common to keep private the milestones that have explicit funding
<ehmry> and those are the milestones with priority, so it can make things look opaque, just seems to come with the territory
<superherointj[m]> I like the way http://powerpc-notebook.org/ did.
<superherointj[m]> It is a slow going project... but anyone that hits there, know what is going on, and if they feel like they can contribute, they can easily do so, there is a future, and the person can be part of it. The goals/dates can be renewed when they don't reach.
<superherointj[m]> I am not talking about the grant. A campaign aiming at any random users that hit the website.
<superherointj[m]> * I am not talking about the grant. A continuous campaign aiming at any random users that hit the website.
<superherointj[m]> They are obviously running late, but better late than never. :-)
<ehmry> superherointj[m]: what about that site makes it easy to know whats going on?
<ehmry> I see surveys and mailing list subscriptions
<ehmry> but only if i disable tor
<superherointj[m]> I mean being explicit and brief about goals. Easy to understand.
<superherointj[m]> We want to achieve X. Help with Y. Here. Project is ongoing. Let's do this.
<jpds> A todo page like https://www.wireguard.com/todo/ might be good
<superherointj[m]> State of affairs should be top thing: Where we are; Where we are going now; When -> Call for action.
<superherointj[m]> * State of affairs should be top thing: Where we are; Where we are going; When -> Call for action.
<superherointj[m]> * State of affairs should be top thing: Where we are going; Where we are; When -> Call for action.
<IdleBot_4fae1f80> («where going» is of course much more shaky for a project with research fraction as large as SpectrumOS has)
<superherointj[m]> It can change overtime. That is fine.
<superherointj[m]> Software have many version over time. That is not a problem.
<superherointj[m]> * Software have many versions over time. That is not a problem.
<superherointj[m]> It is iterations all the way. This is expected.
<IdleBot_4fae1f80> Erm. Versions are a different thing. Versions are about reaching some point and going on. Research is about aiming at some point then taking a turn way before coming close
<superherointj[m]> Same thing. Do you want to call it stages? So be it.
<superherointj[m]> How many version a software will have? No one has a clue! It is an opened process, ongoing...
<superherointj[m]> It might stop somewhere, who knows...
<IdleBot_4fae1f80> No, I want to say that «where aiming» does not mean actually ever getting there.
<IdleBot_4fae1f80> Communicating it clearly enough for easily excitable people without any relevant background is hard
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