qyliss changed the topic of #spectrum to: A compartmentalized operating system | https://spectrum-os.org/ | Logs: https://logs.spectrum-os.org/spectrum/
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<V> qyliss: oh, yeah. getting the colourless SVG favicon
<V> that didn't fall back
<qyliss> it's not supposed to
<V> oh
<qyliss> I don't know of a way I could even have done that without JS
<V> you can't really
<qyliss> actually, I do know a way but it would have been extremely horrible
<qyliss> I would have had a second SVG that included either the PNG or the SVG logo based on the @supports
<V> oh, I was wondering if CSS had a way to check that
<qyliss> that's how the fallback in the page is implemented
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<pie_> qyliss: why is that horrible
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<IdleBot_4fae1f80> horrible is returning SVG or PNG based on sniffing Gecko version in UA string
<samueldr> isn't that comment in the CSS file "wrong", according to the logo page?
<samueldr> what I mean is that it looks like there's already a workaround for that
<samueldr> oh
<samueldr> I understand it
<samueldr> so even the "for browsers" version one uses features that firefox <83 doesn't support
<qyliss> samueldr: correct
<qyliss> there's no way (that I know of) to get that effect in SVG in Firefox <83
<samueldr> I misread that initially and thought it meant that the inkscape mesh gradient was the conic gradient
<samueldr> yeah, in my opinion as an ex-webdev, and still dabbling, SVG is "broken" on the web for multiple small reasons :(
<samueldr> as soon as you stray from simple use cases it becomes a chore
<samueldr> though it's saddening to see that a conical gradient is not a simple use case
<IdleBot_4fae1f80> Web is broken for a miriad of small and not so small reasons… as soon as you stray from a static text websites…
<samueldr> basically yes
<samueldr> but what I mean here is that it's even broken where most developers would tell you "it's not" or "it totally works well"
<samueldr> basic things, or things that should be basic just don't work as one would expect
<samueldr> SVG backgrounds are (apparently, verified by a trusted third party) not rasterized, but always treated as a collection of elements in firefox!
<samueldr> so the more complex your SVG background is, even if it doesn't resize, it will cause your rendering to be slower
<samueldr> or something along the line, so basically SVG as background elements are a no-go when they are complex
<samueldr> (sorry to completely go off-topic here :))
<samueldr> so it's even broken when you assume the "basic brokenness" works
<IdleBot_4fae1f80> Off-topic except as a reminder why browsers need to be isolated by a ten-meter concrete wall around each single-page-displaying instance…
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