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<slack1256> redna
<tpw_rules> you need to create a virtual environment first
<rednaZ[m]> slack1256: Yes?
<slack1256> sorry. I pressed return before a complete answer. I ended up deleting it because It didn't add much to the conversation.
<tpw_rules> rednaZ[m]: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Python see the section under "python virtual environment"
<slack1256> Now I wrote a long text about my shyness of IRC, i bet you are glad. ;_; /s
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<simpson> rednaZ[m]: I don't think that you're very far off of what should work for pure-Python applications. The main thing to keep in mind is that you'll need to create an actual virtual environment and call the pip from inside there, rather than using a nixpkgs pip with ad-hoc flags.
<tpw_rules> however qyliss is right, it's best for your experience and a good contribution to the community to write a derivation for it
<rednaZ[m]> tpw_rules: How come there are no derivations autogenerated for all PyPI packages?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mweinelt reopened pull request #113659 → python36: 3.6.12 -> 3.6.13; python37: 3.7.9 -> 3.7.10 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113659
<simpson> rednaZ[m]: Short answer is that (unlike e.g. Hackage) there's no PyPI metadata that is quite rich enough for that. We've talked with upstream PyPA before and it's non-trivial.
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<simpson> And that's only considering pure-Python dependencies. Folks tend to desire native dependencies and extension modules as well.
<rednaZ[m]> Another questions: I installed pancritic successfully using `pip install --user pancritic`. Of course, I still cannot run it but why does `pip list` not list it?
<simpson> You *need* to create an actual virtual environment. https://bpa.st/WQ5A
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<rednaZ[m]> simpson: Thanks. This had worked and I am celebrating but I am just wondering how I purge the leftovers from `pip install --user` from my system.
<rednaZ[m]> ...from before the virtual environment.
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<simpson> rednaZ[m]: It'll be in ~/.local IIUC. https://pip.pypa.io/en/stable/reference/pip_install/#cmdoption-user
<rednaZ[m]> That is all? Thanks a lot.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @CohenCyril opened pull request #113661 → lib: etc → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113661
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #111473 → libuv: disable an impure test → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/111473
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mweinelt merged pull request #113582 → miniflux: 2.0.27 -> 2.0.28 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113582
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<matthewcroughan> Does anyone know how to cross compile with remote builders via nix.buildMachines?
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<aleph-> So checking back here again, are there any docs or tuts on importing nars/narinfos? Haven't seen anything exactly on how to do it yet.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq pushed 284 commits to staging: https://git.io/Jtymp
<colemickens> aleph-: what do you mean by importing them?
<colemickens> aleph-: normally they're on a server and then nix fetches them when it tries to build a certain derivation
<colemickens> are you trying to bulk import/export or?
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<aleph-> colemickens: So I made a bulk export of the 20.09 channel earlier via https://paste.rs/Q4s trying to set up mostly offline installations for my network.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq opened pull request #113662 → podman: 3.0.0 -> 3.0.1 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113662
<aleph-> Guess I can just loop through them and `nix-store --import < $file.nar`
<colemickens> aleph-: depending on the scenario, you might want to host a cache and add it to the machines in your network
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<tpw_rules> aleph-: i don't think that works because all the prerequisites have to be in the store first
<colemickens> aleph-: otherwise, are you wanting to import the entire store-paths for a channel on all machines?
<aleph-> colemickens: Yep that's the plan, have a machine set up wanted to import all of 20.09 into it's store.
<aleph-> tpw_rules: Hmm point.
<aleph-> Hmm guess I could just nix copy directly into my nix store no?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ajs124 opened pull request #113663 → claws-mail{,-gtk}: refactor and merge → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113663
<colemickens> Can you clarify what you're trying to do? Do you want to import everything on every machine?
<aleph-> Nope, not everything on every machine. Just have a new machine when spun up able to just import what it needs from my local pkg cache first.
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<colemickens> aleph-: in that case yeah, you might want to just import directly to your cache machine's store and then use nix-serve or something like that to make that store available to the rest of your internal machines
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @neonfuz opened pull request #113664 → koreader: 2021.01.1 -> 2021.02 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113664
<aleph-> Got it, cool thanks colemickens
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<colemickens> (just to be extra verbose) It might be more efficient to straight mirror the nar/narinfos into a dir and then serve that up via nginx, compared to nix-serve, you'll pull nar, unpack, and then nix-serve would repack on the fly.
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<ajs124> hexa-: re python2/3 (because I don't want to spam #nixos-security). I was trying to figure out if my systems depend on python2, but adding disallowedRequisites = [ pkgs.python2 ]; to baseSystem in nixos/modules/system/activation/top-level.nix doesn't seem to work.
<ajs124> any better ideas how to determine that? I mean, I guess I could run closureInfo on everything and grep through that, but that output format is kind of weird
<hexa-> nix-store -q --tree $(nix-instantiate '<nixos/nixos>' -A system)
<hexa-> subversion …
<hexa-> neovim
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<hexa-> gvfs
<hexa-> opengl-drivers
<aleph-> colemickens: Planning to have my store over SSH.
<ajs124> gimp, apparently. hm, those aren't just runtime dependencies though, right?
<aleph-> So I assume I'd need it imported into the binary store
<hexa-> I see setuptools, pip and wheel alot
<hexa-> intel-graphics-compiler, steam-run
<simpson> ajs124, hexa-: There is of course a Python 2.7 flavor of PyPy which will still receive security updates. (Not relevant to the other channel because it doesn't look like this bug affects PyPy.) It would be prudent of us to determine what our long-term strategy will be, since PyPy will still need a Python 2.7 bootstrap in the future too.
<hexa-> 02:14 <ajs124> but yeah, maybe we should just switch to the gentoo fork, instead of using their patches, because what else are we gonna do?
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<hexa-> but honestly, I don't want to put much time into this
<hexa-> it needs to be low effort or not at all
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #113649 → openethereum: fix tests → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113649
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-20.09-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/ec9fe6217f3 (from 7 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-20.09-small)
<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/4ef6da455e9 (from 19 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-unstable)
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<colemickens> mount.nfs -o vers=4 works, but vers=3 doesn't. I don't see us disabling v3 anywhere though/
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<randomuser123> Can I get a bit of help with my setup? I've got an imperatively-created user account, with home-manager managing my bash profile (programs.bash.enable = true;) and environment variables (home.sessionVariables.EDITOR = "nvim";). When I open a terminal (xfce4-terminal) my env variable isn't set. It *is* set properly, however, if I login to TTY1. What
<randomuser123> am I missing / how do I get it load my profile everywhere?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #113665 → eksctl: 0.37.0 -> 0.38.0 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113665
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<randomuser123> Maybe-relevant lines from configuration.nix:  services.xserver.desktopManager.xfce.enable = true; services.xserver.displayManager.lightdm.enable = true;
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andersk opened pull request #113666 → openafs: Add upstream patches for Linux kernel 5.11 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113666
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<randomuser123> found a setting for xfce4-terminal to make it run it as a login shell. That works I suppose. Now to see if I can fit that into configuration.nix....
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq closed pull request #113053 → buildRustPackage: add assert for verifyCargoDeps → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113053
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JtyZ2
<jumper149> Hi, is it possible to allow installing only certain unfree packages?
<jumper149> I am talking about configuration.nix btw
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jahkeup closed pull request #112666 → ena: 2.3.0 -> 2.4.1 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/112666
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #113667 → dasel: 1.13.0 -> 1.13.1 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113667
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<veleiro> is there a port of NixOS for POWER9?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rmcgibbo opened pull request #113668 → python3Packages.scipy: 1.6.0 -> 1.6.1 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113668
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<CMCDragonkai1> Hi
<CMCDragonkai1> We are trying to install NixOS on Dell Vostro 5402 laptop.
<CMCDragonkai1> The bootup goes fine
<CMCDragonkai1> But upon launching the X server the tty7 hangs
<CMCDragonkai1> This is on the installation ISO
<CMCDragonkai1> for both Gnome and Plasma5 20.09
<CMCDragonkai1> Is there any way to debug this?
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<CMCDragonkai1> For reference, installation ISO works
<CMCDragonkai1> for Ubuntu
<cole-h> Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get another tty and browse the X logs, wherever they are
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<CMCDragonkai1> Tried that
<CMCDragonkai1> but it keeps automatically going back to tty7
<CMCDragonkai1> The laptop was certified for Ubuntu usage, and during the installation, Ubuntu is even aware that it is a Dell computer
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<colemickens> is there like a nomodeset option on the iso that could be used? could you use the text installer and then be able to iterate in-place easier?
<CMCDragonkai1> the minimal iso works
<CMCDragonkai1> but then we want X server to work eventualy
<CMCDragonkai1> done the full installation
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<colemickens> CMCDragonkai1: of course! You might find it easier to SSH in and then be able to iterate easier depending on how bad the tty gets jammed.
<colemickens> sadly, I'm not super great at debugging X, I haven't had to do that in ages. I'm not even sure what the usual candidates are.
<colemickens> I am always a bit surprised when I hear about the Ubuntu ISO working in scenarios and the NixOS one not.
<colemickens> Hopefully we can figure out what it is and improve the installer iso.
<colemickens> looks like it would just be integrated graphics too, doesn't seem like it ought to be anything weird
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<CMCDragonkai1> the laptop has intel UHD
<colemickens> I assume this is a recently-downloaded ISO, CMCDragonkai1 ? Are you trying a stable or nixos-unstable ISO?
<CMCDragonkai1> and a nvidia gpu
<CMCDragonkai1> yes
<CMCDragonkai1> just downloaded
<CMCDragonkai1> from the frontpage
<colemickens> oh, it does have a nvidia gpu.
<colemickens> I wonder if we can blacklist that for now or something.
<colemickens> A quick google indicates ubuntu might ship the nvidia drivers in their iso, and I don't think we do that.
<veleiro> i had an old nvidia gpu on a work computer when i first started using nixos
<veleiro> it wasnt fun
<veleiro> gnome and plasma are both wayland updated now, im pretty sure
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<veleiro> albeit terribly
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<colemickens> CMCDragonkai1: can you try the iso with the nomodeset boot entry and see if iit helps?
<colemickens> CMCDragonkai1: or actually, if you have the system installed, I guess you could go ahead and try to use the nvidia driver, if that was your end goal
<veleiro> maybe its the fault of the displayManager
<veleiro> CMCDragonkai1: you didn't specify which NVIDIA gen gpu?
<veleiro> IMO its likely if it is supported by nouveau any NixOS install image would work
<CMCDragonkai1> its the dell vostro 5402
<CMCDragonkai1> i wanted to just use the intel UHD graphics
<CMCDragonkai1> at the very least
<CMCDragonkai1> not bother activating the GPU
<CMCDragonkai1> what does nomodeset do?
<CMCDragonkai1> right now i want step 1 working
<CMCDragonkai1> which is just a X desktop
<CMCDragonkai1> step 2 might be NVIDIA PGU
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<veleiro> ohh, its switchable
<CMCDragonkai1> it is geforce mx330
<CMCDragonkai1> but atm
<CMCDragonkai1> its definitely running on ubuntu without nvidia i think
<CMCDragonkai1> just intel UHD graphics
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<colemickens> idk what nomodeset does, but there are a lot of hits for 'nvidia nomodeset nixos black screen' so it felt like a safe bet to try
<CMCDragonkai1>
<CMCDragonkai1> nVidia GP108M [GeForce MX330] (10de:1d16)
<CMCDragonkai1> Intel Corp. UHD Graphics (8086:9a49)
<veleiro> whats your setting for 'services.xserver.videoDrivers' in /etc/nixos/configuration?
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<CMCDragonkai1> well im currently running ubuntu
<CMCDragonkai1> now
<veleiro> err, /etc/nixos/configuration.nix
<CMCDragonkai1> cause nixos wasnt installable
<CMCDragonkai1> on the graphical
<CMCDragonkai1> it was for minimal
<veleiro> well switchable cards are difficult in any linux i think
<CMCDragonkai1> isn't it possible to only use intel for now
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #113614 → tendermint: 0.34.4 -> 0.34.7 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113614
<veleiro> but you'd have to setup /etc/nixos/configuration.nix properly for it to work
<CMCDragonkai1> instead of trying to switch
<colemickens> you could boot, edit the kernel cmdline and try to blacklist nouveau potentially too
<colemickens> boot the installer iso, that is, and do that ^
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #113665 → eksctl: 0.37.0 -> 0.38.0 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113665
<CMCDragonkai1> you saying the installation ISO has nouveau
<CMCDragonkai1> ?
<colemickens> nouveau is part of the kernel, so yeah
<CMCDragonkai1> how to edit the kernel cmdline when using the installation iso?
<colemickens> whatever bootloader it has will let you edit the entry
<CMCDragonkai1> systemd bootloader i think
<colemickens> it's the same place where you would look for a "nomodeset" entry to try to boot. (but for now don't combine them)
<CMCDragonkai1> ok we trying nomodeset first
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<colemickens> the iso will be using grub, as well, so it will let you edit the entry whenever you want to try blacklist nouveau
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<veleiro> the comment there says to use 'hardware.nvidiaOptimus.disable = true;' in /etc/nixos/configuration.nix if you only want intel
<veleiro> CMCDragonkai1: ^
<veleiro> (xps 9550 is also switchable graphics)
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<CMCDragonkai1> we are on on nomodeset now
<CMCDragonkai1> it says "Reached target Graphical Interface"
<CMCDragonkai1> Then nothing
<CMCDragonkai1> just holds there
<CMCDragonkai1> so now
<CMCDragonkai1> we can switch to tty1
<CMCDragonkai1> and tty2
<CMCDragonkai1> and so on
<CMCDragonkai1> but tty7 is still blank with a blinking underscore
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #113524 → mavproxy: 1.8.32 -> 1.8.34 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113524
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #113650 → chisel: 1.7.4 -> 1.7.6 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113650
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<veleiro> CMCDragonkai1: I would add hardware.nvidiaOptimus.disable = true; within /etc/nixos/configuration.nix and then 'sudo nixos-rebuild switch'
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #113629 → waypoint: 0.2.1 -> 0.2.2 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113629
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<veleiro> blacklisting nouveau like colemickens would not work i think because its a newer Nvidia GPU generation, that isnt supported by nouveau anyways
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<colemickens> I don't think they have an install though veleiro
<veleiro> don't you have to 'install' nixos, before you have any graphical interface?
<CMCDragonkai1> running `journalctl -b -u display-manager.service`
<CMCDragonkai1> gives you... `GdmDisplay: Session never registered, failing`
<CMCDragonkai1> Then `Child process ... was already dead`
<CMCDragonkai1> And then it restarts
<colemickens> veleiro: we have graphical installer isos
<CMCDragonkai1> and tries again
<veleiro> wat
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #113562 → fly: 6.7.5 -> 7.0.0 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113562
<veleiro> well in that case yeah it doesnt work because its a newer card, and likely not supported by nouveau
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #113579 → librealsense: 2.41.0 -> 2.42.0 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113579
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<veleiro> since when has there been a graphical installer lol
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<colemickens> the internet says that card is a desktop 1030...
<colemickens> which nvidia probably supports, as it supports my desktop 1080.
<CMCDragonkai1> veleiro: since like the beginning of time
<colemickens> I don't think taking a second to blacklist nouvaeu is a waste of time, imo.
<CMCDragonkai1> veleiro: nixos has had a graphical installer for years
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<veleiro> that card is a mx330 is what i see
<colemickens> "The Nvidia GeForce MX330 is a dedicated entry-level mobile graphics card for laptops. It was released in February 2020 and is basically a renamed Geforce MX250 / GeForce MX150 / desktop GeForce GT 1030."
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @doronbehar merged pull request #113623 → tweeny: 3.1.1 -> 3.2.0 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113623
<CMCDragonkai1> the gpu is not relevant here
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #112852 → avocode: 4.11.1 -> 4.11.2 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/112852
<CMCDragonkai1> the intel uhd graphics should be the one being used
<CMCDragonkai1> just inspected X logs
<CMCDragonkai1> it says at the end that screens found, but none have a usable configuration
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<CMCDragonkai1> fatal server error
<CMCDragonkai1> no screens found
<colemickens> Does our installer iso not use wayland :/
<colemickens> or did it give up on that first?
<CMCDragonkai1> i dont think wayland is integrated at all
<CMCDragonkai1> nixos GUI has always been X
<colemickens> contrary to the option names, that's not really quite the case
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<colemickens> if it were me, I'd do a text install just to be able to iterate, take advantage of a persistent /nix/store, etc.
<veleiro> nixos has no gui really
<veleiro> are nixos releases attached to any desktop manager? not that i'm aware of
<colemickens> yes, they are
<colemickens> the release schedule recently changed to more appropriately accomodate Plasma/Gnome release cycles
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<colemickens> And the official nixos download page offers gnome, plasma, and text isos
<CMCDragonkai1> veleiro: just go to nixos.org and see for yourself
<colemickens> Yikes, our installer iso performance in virt-manager is still really, really bad.
<veleiro> I see the installer images now with guis
<veleiro> but i dont see how those options connect to the nixos channels for supporting 20.09 or 20.03 or unstable
<colemickens> huh?
<colemickens> the release channels definitely gate on GUI tests...
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<veleiro> well im reaching my limit on understanding releases, i need to look at what testing means
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #113257 → clojure-lsp: 2021.02.13-18.04.19 -> 2021.02.14-19.46.47 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113257
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #113300 → seaweedfs: 2.24 -> 2.26 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113300
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #112729 → python37Packages.openrouteservice: 2.3.0 -> 2.3.3 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/112729
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @baloo opened pull request #113669 → linux: fixup compilation for linux 5.11 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113669
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #112773 → bee: 0.4.2 -> 0.5.0 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/112773
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #112899 → goreleaser: 0.155.1 -> 0.155.2 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/112899
<veleiro> ok, i've never considered different levels of testing
<veleiro> where's a good place to find nixpkgs testing?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #113073 → jbang: 0.65.1 -> 0.66.0 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113073
<veleiro> thanks tomberek
<tomberek> err..bad link, that's old, here's new: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/nixos/tests/xfce.nix
<tomberek> basically the test framework was perl, got upgraded to python
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<veleiro> exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis merged pull request #113653 → buildah: 1.19.4 -> 1.19.6 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113653
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis merged pull request #113658 → skopeo: 1.2.1 -> 1.2.2 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113658
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danieldk opened pull request #113670 → maturin: 0.9.3 -> 0.9.4 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113670
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis merged pull request #113662 → podman: 3.0.0 -> 3.0.1 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113662
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis merged pull request #113669 → common-config: fixup compilation for linux 5.11 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113669
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis merged pull request #113664 → koreader: 2021.01.1 -> 2021.02 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113664
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl merged pull request #110130 → ocamlPackages.utop: 2.6.0 -> 2.7.0 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/110130
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<solarliner> Hi, I'm pretty sure by now it's a known issue, but just in case I wanted to report out that the NixOS cache server is unresponsive for some URLs http://ix.io/2PVU
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<{^_^}> [nix] @regnat pushed to ca/copy-drv-outputs « Let copyPath on RealisedPaths wrap copyPath on StorePaths »: https://git.io/JtyBN
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<b00n> Hi there dear people (and others), I struggle a bit by trying to set up apparmor on NixOS and hope, someone here could please give me a helping hand. I enabled: 'security.apparmor.enable = true;' and the default profiles: 'security.apparmor.profiles = [ "${pkgs.apparmor-profiles}/etc/apparmor.d" ];' and 'sudo aa-status' tells me, that: '54 profiles are loaded' (and in enforce mode). So it's looking good, but
<b00n> I fear it doesn't work. How can I be sure to execute my apps/processes through apparmor? I restricted e. g. 'mpv' to taking screenshots for testing reasons, but screenshots working while the modified mpv profile is loaded and my system has rebooted. Does somebody collected experiences with apparmor under Nix?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danieldk merged pull request #113634 → fwupd: comment about 1.5.6 release → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113634
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #113672 → gxemul: 0.6.2 -> 0.6.3 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113672
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<{^_^}> [nixops-aws] @mpickering opened pull request #129 → Only use private IP for machines in the same region → https://github.com/NixOS/nixops-aws/pull/129
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danieldk merged pull request #113358 → docs: clarify staging → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113358
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ckauhaus merged pull request #112683 → [20.09] nomad_0_12: 0.12.9 -> 0.12.10 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/112683
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis merged pull request #111166 → libgccjit: use current gcc version → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/111166
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<{^_^}> [nix] @regnat pushed to ca/copy-drv-outputs « fixup! Let copyPath on RealisedPaths wrap copyPath on StorePaths »: https://git.io/Jtyua
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #112978 → python.tests: test overriding functions → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/112978
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<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-20.09-darwin advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/a83ee7565fb (from 76 minutes ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-20.09-darwin)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @06kellyjac opened pull request #113673 → nerdctl: 0.5.0 -> 0.6.0 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113673
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #113670 → maturin: 0.9.3 -> 0.9.4 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113670
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 opened pull request #113674 → collection: remove stale substituteInPlace, many unused input → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113674
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #113675 → gradm: 3.1-201903191516 -> 3.1-202012071814 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113675
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis opened pull request #113676 → subsurface: 4.9.6 -> 4.9.10 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113676
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #113677 → gsimplecal: 2.1 -> 2.2 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113677
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<{^_^}> [nixops-aws] @roberth opened pull request #130 → Instance types → https://github.com/NixOS/nixops-aws/pull/130
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<vrinek> is anyone aware of a more up-to-date version of https://nixos.wiki/wiki/NixOS_Installation_Guide/Manual_USB_Creation?
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<vrinek> I get the feeling that https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Creating_a_NixOS_live_CD would be good enough for a replacement but would love to have someone's confirmation
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #113678 → gpxsee: 8.5 -> 8.6 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113678
<avaq> Hi folks! I have a question about nix channels and how they play with NixOps. Firstly, it seems that the nix channels available to a nixops-managed system are independent of the channel configured in the NixOps deployment config, is that right?
<avaq> So I've modified my deployment config to use nixos-20.09, but on the target machine, the channel listed is still nixos-20.03.
<adisbladis> avaq: NixOps has no channel management built in
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<adisbladis> It inherits whatever you have on your system in NIX_PATH
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @tomberek merged pull request #111499 → parallel: 20200922 -> 20210122 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/111499
<avaq> adisbladis, I use 'nixops modify -I nixpkgs=https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/archive/nixos-20.09.tar.gz ...' to manage it.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis opened pull request #113679 → nix-direnv: Fix nix executable paths → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113679
<avaq> Is there a way to manage nix channels via Nix? So I want to deploy to a target machine, and tell it to adopt a new channel, ideally as specified in its nix config.
<b00n> If still somebody have (functional) experiences with apparmor under nixos, it would be nice to get in touch with you :)
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<avaq> So that after deployment, the channel used by 'nix-shell' and whatnot on that machine is going to be whatever I've configured in the nix expression for that machine.
<adisbladis> avaq: You can set `nix.nixPath` to achieve that
<adisbladis> Note that it won't affect the channel used for the deployment, just the channel on the remote once already deployed (it's setting an environment variable)
<avaq> Excellent. That's what I was looking for.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis merged pull request #113676 → subsurface: 4.9.6 -> 4.9.10 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113676
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<avaq> adisbladis, so once I override the nixPath, I guess using 'nix-channel' won't have any effects anymore?
<adisbladis> Not really
<adisbladis> It will still do it's thing, you just won't have a NIX_PATH pointing to whatever mutable location nix-channel manages
<adisbladis> Tbh I'm not too knowledgeable about nix-channel as I never use it myself
<avaq> Okay, that seems exactly as I expect it. Thanks. :)
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<avaq> And which part is responsible for making the nix-channel binary available on nixops-deployed systems? If possible I might as well remove that when I'm managing nixPath directly, no?
<adisbladis> It's always bundled in the nix package
<avaq> Oh well
* etu have set nix.nixPath to use nix-channels :p
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* etu really wanted to change something else without stop using channels in the NIX_PATH :)
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<adisbladis> etu: When I'm talking about channels I'm talking about `nix-channel` & the channel tarballs releases.nixos.org
<adisbladis> Not the git branches
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<openhyena> Is there a simple method of adding this bin folder to my path declaratively?
<openhyena> It works except that I am informed ` WARNING: The scripts qcfractal-dashboard, qcfractal-manager and qcfractal-server are installed in '/nix/store/ddhw332lvji5d1lh516yjibnyrnyhx8k-python3.8-qcfractal-0.11.0/bin' which is not on PATH.`
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<etu> adisbladis: I know, on some of my systems I've set NIX_PATH to something like this: nixpkgs=/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos nixos-config=/etc/nixos/hosts/vps04/configuration.nix
<etu> adisbladis: Then I still use nix-channel ;)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis opened pull request #113680 → top-level/packages-config.nix: Correctly index package subsets delimited by dots → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113680
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis merged pull request #113679 → nix-direnv: Fix nix executable paths → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113679
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<simonpe^^> ,channels
<{^_^}> Largest Nix channels: #nixos, #nixos-dev, #nixos-chat, #nixos-aarch64, #nixos-security, #nixcon, #nixos-officehours, #nixops, #haskell.nix, #nix-darwin, #nixos-de, #nixos-emacs, #nixos-on-your-router, #nixos-nur, #nix-lang, #nixos-fr, #nixos-systemd, #nixos-borg, #nixos-wiki
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #113666 → openafs: Add upstream patches for Linux kernel 5.11 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113666
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis merged pull request #113592 → emacs: precompile all trampolines → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113592
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #113673 → nerdctl: 0.5.0 -> 0.6.0 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113673
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #113674 → collection: remove stale substituteInPlace, many unused input → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113674
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<jansc> sorry for my dumb question: what is the command to install "pkgs/applications/networking/ncgopher/default.nix" (not even sure if this is the package name) on NixOS? Disclaimer: I'm updating some docs for ncgopher and have no idea about nixos
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<sterni> jansc: nix-env -iA nixos.ncgopher
<sterni> jansc: note on non-nixos with nix installed it is nix-env -iA nixpkgs.ncgopher
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<sterni> (not sure why this distinction exists in the first place but here we are)
<jansc> sterni: thanks a lot!
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<sterni> jansc: the closest to linking to a package page si this: https://search.nixos.org/packages?channel=unstable&show=ncgopher&from=0&size=50&sort=relevance&query=ncgopher , but the links to the search already broke in the past so probably not the best idea to link to it :/
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @AndersonTorres opened pull request #113681 → dap: init at 3.10 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113681
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @alesguzik opened pull request #113682 → nxpmicro-mfgtools: 1.4.43 -> 1.4.72, add udev rules → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113682
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #113145 → secretscanner: init at 20210214-42a38f9 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113145
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<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/b4e193a23a1 (from 7 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-unstable)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fabaff opened pull request #113683 → python3Packages.pysmbc: 1.0.21 -> 1.0.23 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113683
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #112631 → garble: init at 2020-01-07 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/112631
<__monty__> sterni: The channel names are entirely arbitrary. Traditionally they get a name that hints at the actual channel behind it. nixos-20.03 and nixpkgs-unstable, respectively, in this case, probably (because my nixos is still nixos-19.09 for example).
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #111006 → fwup: 1.5.2 -> 1.8.3 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/111006
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<peter> hi all
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<elux> the other day, Go 1.16 was released, and i'd really like to use it on my Nix system. Any tips / suggestions how I can do that ahead of it landing in the home-manager or nixos-unstable channels (which I am hooked up to)
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<__monty__> elux: An overlay will probably be easiest. Let me see if I have an example.
<adisbladis> You don't need an overlay
<adisbladis> Go 1.16 is in nixpkgs already
<adisbladis> > go_1_16
<{^_^}> undefined variable 'go_1_16' at (string):477:1
<adisbladis> Well, {^_^} is a bit behind
<adisbladis> But that's the attribute
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fabaff opened pull request #113685 → python3Packages.pychannels: init at 1.2.2 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113685
<__monty__> Ah, it's already in nixos-unstable?
<adisbladis> You could also do `nix-shell -I nixpkgs=https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/archive/master.tar.gz -p go_1_16` if it's not in unstable yet
<slby[m]> What does {getBin pkgs.Package} do as opposed to {pkgs.Package} ?
<__monty__> slby[m]: Only get the /bin path rather than /share /lib etc.? (Just a guess.)
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<slby[m]> ah, that could be it! thanks
<elux> oh, go_1_16 .. is that package..?
<adisbladis> Yeah
<elux> <3 <3 <3
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<elux> looks like its working. its installing now
<elux> how did you know it existed? im having a hard time tracking nix package indexes or searching them
<adisbladis> I got CCed on the PR adding it
<elux> i see :) fair enuf
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<{^_^}> [rfc39-record] @grahamc pushed commit from rfc39 to main « Automated team sync results. »: https://git.io/JtyDR
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<elux> go 1.16 works great via go_1_16 -- thank you adisbladis
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @AndersonTorres opened pull request #113686 → Release 20.09 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113686
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @grahamc opened pull request #113687 → perlPackages.{FunctionParameters,TieHashMethod,TestPostgreSQL}: init → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113687
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @AndersonTorres opened pull request #113688 → [20.09] bitcoin: 0.20.1 -> 0.21.0 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113688
<sterni> slby[m]: getBin determines the output that /bin is located is out in most cases, but sometimes bin or dev
<sterni> > glibc.out
<{^_^}> "<derivation /nix/store/gnkq6z6lzi3xrf8qgm9qm53hvb57336y-glibc-2.32-25.drv>"
<sterni> > getBin glibc
<{^_^}> "<derivation /nix/store/gnkq6z6lzi3xrf8qgm9qm53hvb57336y-glibc-2.32-25.drv>"
<sterni> or at least so I thought…
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SCOTT-HAMILTON opened pull request #113689 → fetchgithub: support for sparse checkouts → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113689
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<sterni> oh yeah it's all the same derivation I guess
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<sterni> > "${getBin glibc}/bin/ldd"
<{^_^}> "/nix/store/y0s7p092x0n2y5zmrq1h211gkp71842f-glibc-2.32-25-bin/bin/ldd"
<sterni> > "${glibc.out}/bin/ldd"
<{^_^}> "/nix/store/m0xa5bz7vw7p43wi0jppvvi3c9vgqvp7-glibc-2.32-25/bin/ldd"
<SuperSandro2000> less bloat to download if you only need ldd
<sterni> where the latter wouldn't exist because glibc's out output is not where the binaries are
<sterni> slby[m]: ^
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<sterni> SuperSandro2000: well, it is also necessary to use if you want to get the output with binaries and write generic / future-proof nix expressions
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus pushed to master « Revert "linux: Disable BFQ scheduler" »: https://git.io/JtyyM
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<SuperSandro2000> we could probably do a treewide PR that adds that at places
<SuperSandro2000> also is nixpkgs-hammering checking that?
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<adisbladis> > "${glibc}/bin/ldd"
<{^_^}> "/nix/store/m0xa5bz7vw7p43wi0jppvvi3c9vgqvp7-glibc-2.32-25/bin/ldd"
<adisbladis> sterni: ^
<adisbladis> slby[m]: ^ I mean
<{^_^}> [patchelf] @ehmry opened pull request #264 → Add a LOAD segment for new .dynstr and .dynsym sections → https://github.com/NixOS/patchelf/pull/264
<jschievink> hey folks, I'm trying to get rootless podman working, but it's failing with "lchown /etc/shadow: invalid argument" and complaining about insufficient UIDs/GIDs, despite /etc/{subuid,subgid} being set up correctly
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<jschievink> it is printing a few warnings about not having a systemd user session, presumably because I run via `sudo -u unprivileged-user` from root?
<jschievink> but that doesn't look related to me
<adisbladis> jschievink: I think it may be related since podman assumes systemd as the cgroup manager
<jschievink> hmm, okay
<adisbladis> And if you su to another user that user doesn't have any systemd user session running managing the cgroups
<adisbladis> You might try `podman --cgroup-manager=cgroupfs`
<jschievink> so is the only way to do this by logging in as the unprivileged user?
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<jschievink> passing that doesn't seem to do anything
<adisbladis> Hm.. I don't remember how I got this working in our tests...
<adisbladis> Ahh, right
<jschievink> even the systemd warnings stay, so it almost looks like `--cgroup-manager=cgroupfs` is completely ignored
<adisbladis> We are creating a user session!
<adisbladis> loginctl enable-linger unprivileged-user
<adisbladis> Then you could su to the user and run podman
<adisbladis> That's how we do it in the NixOS tests
<jschievink> that does get rid of the warnings!
<jschievink> but the lchown error persists
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #113667 → dasel: 1.13.0 -> 1.13.1 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113667
<adisbladis> Are you trying to mount /etc in the container?
<jschievink> no
<adisbladis> Your unprivileged user obviously won't have read access to /etc/shadow
<jschievink> I'm just trying to run `podman run -it alpine /bin/sh`
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<adisbladis> Hmm, also try `sudo -i`
<jschievink> yeah, but that shouldn't result in EINVAL
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<sterni> adisbladis: but that path doesn't exist in that case, right
<adisbladis> sterni: No, that's the point :)
<sterni> (because bin/ldd is not in the out output)
<adisbladis> You absolutely want the bin output
<adisbladis> jschievink: I think you might be inheriting some env from root that confuses podman
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<jschievink> `sudo -i` doesn't seem to help
<jschievink> hmm, what does nixos sudo inherit by default?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #111864 → clojure-lsp: migrate to GraalVM → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/111864
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #113633 → xkb-switch: 1.6.0 -> 1.8.5 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113633
<adisbladis> Idk
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<sterni> adisbladis: oh yeah misunderstood you, important to note that just the drv defaults to out, right
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @edolstra closed pull request #113686 → Release 20.09 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113686
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus opened pull request #113691 → ripgrep: Add PCRE2 check → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113691
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<betaboon> a host-configuration pulls in pipewire and i have no clue why. the tree just tells me it is being pulled in due to `system-path.drv`. any hints ?
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<srhb> betaboon: It's difficult if it's somehow in systemPackages and not in a systemd unit. I'd probably overlay it with a throw and try to trace the error.
<betaboon> i have it nowhere in my systemPackages. I'll try the overlay+throw idea
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<srhb> betaboon: Just checking, did you try nix why-depends yet?
<srhb> betaboon: Because if it's not directly in systemPackages, you may get very friendly results from that
<srhb> betaboon: As in nix why-depends /run/current-system /nix/store/...-pipewire
<slby[m]> Are there somehwere good examples of how to customize the pkgs.formats.yaml function? I can't seem to escape quotes.
<jschievink> I rebooted and now rootless podman seems to work fine
<jschievink> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<betaboon> srhb: found it using the throw method. turns out `services.pipewire.media-session.enable` defaults to true since the PR has been merged
<{^_^}> [nix] @regnat merged pull request #4340 → Store the realisations of unresolved derivations → https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/4340
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<srhb> betaboon: why-depends has it for me because firefox has a direct dependency on it.
<andi-> (for no good reason IMHO)
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<srhb> I think it's one of those cases where those that use it think it's a good idea and those who don't, don't. :P
<andi-> except that it is broken 95% of the time and doesn't work for anyone.
<{^_^}> [nix] @regnat pushed 5 commits to ca/copy-drv-outputs: https://git.io/JtyHp
<andi-> And the patchsets require din firefox are likely not sufficient and/or disabled.
<srhb> I regret engaging in this, forget I said anything. :)
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<andi-> Yeah. Hearing Firefox triggers me.
<{^_^}> [nix] @regnat pushed 2 commits to ca/copy-drv-outputs: https://git.io/JtyHh
<betaboon> srhb: the thing is my build fails. plus the configuration is not for my current host. dunno how to use why-depends for that
<srhb> betaboon: Ah I see, yeah, not great for that. :)
<srhb> betaboon: Glad the throw method worked at least.
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<betaboon> srhb: but your suggestion worked fine :) thanks
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danieldk merged pull request #113691 → ripgrep: Add PCRE2 check → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113691
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rmcgibbo closed pull request #113153 → pytest-check-hook: Split disabledTestFiles on whitespace → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113153
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<drozdziak1> > linuxPackages_5_11
<{^_^}> undefined variable 'linuxPackages_5_11' at (string):477:1
<drozdziak1> > linuxPackages_5_11
<{^_^}> undefined variable 'linuxPackages_5_11' at (string):477:1
<drozdziak1> (sorry, thought Weechat froze)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fabaff opened pull request #113692 → python3Packages.mcstatus: init at 5.1.1 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113692
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<adisbladis> drozdziak1: We had a bug in building 5.11, so it's not in unstable yet
<adisbladis> Fixed earlier today so maybe later today or within the next few days
<drozdziak1> adisbladis: okay, I'm just a little confused because I could see it in my local nixpkgs but couldn't find it in nix-repl :l <nixpkgs> :P
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<sterni> I thought it was already in unstable
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 opened pull request #113693 → pythonPackages.blinker: execute tests → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113693
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @maralorn pushed to haskell-updates « hackagePackages.haskell-language-server: Fix build »: https://git.io/Jty7k
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra merged pull request #4541 → Deeper `Command` hierarchy to remove redundancy → https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/4541
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @romildo merged pull request #113677 → gsimplecal: 2.1 -> 2.2 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113677
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<betaboon> how can i override perlpackages in an overlay ?
<drozdziak1> Is it possible to set up a NixOS-style borg backup job with home-manager?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @sternenseemann opened pull request #113696 → ocamlPackages.janeStreet{,_0_9_0}: join the ocamlPackages fix point, allowing overriding to work as expected → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113696
<adisbladis> slby[m]: Wdym?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ymatsiuk opened pull request #113698 → fluxcd: 0.8.1 -> 0.8.2 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113698
<bqv> adisbladis: presumabny you saw #107777
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/107777 (by collares, 7 weeks ago, open): emacs: add currently compiling package dirs to load-path
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<adisbladis> bqv: At some point yes, but I've forgotten about it
<bqv> Disposition to merge?
<adisbladis> I'm not in a mental state to review right now
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<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/ad4db3f4d8a (from 6 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-unstable)
<bqv> Oh, fair enough
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @symphorien merged pull request #107402 → boot.initrd.luks: add reusePassphrases support for YubiKey 2FA → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/107402
<bqv> Perhaps tadfisher[m]'s happy to take the lead then
<Ankhers> Does anyone know why virtualbox would tell me that the kernel driver is not accessible?
<adisbladis> bqv: I'll take a look in a bit
<adisbladis> slby[m]: Wouldn't that just be `(formats.yaml {}).generate "yml" { keys = [ { key = {keyvalue = "value";}; } ]; }`
<bqv> :)
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<infinisil> slby[m]: adisbladis: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/97310#
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<{^_^}> #97310 (by berbiche, 23 weeks ago, closed): Newly introduced YAML formatter does not allow hexadecimal escapes (or other escapes) in strings
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<slby[m]> infinisil: Thank you, that could be the source of my problem!
<slby[m]> adisbladis: I need to have the `""` surrounding the `{}` sadly and I can't seem to escape the `""` for the value. If I try to escape it, I get from `\"` a `\\\"`
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #113699 → librelp: 1.9.0 -> 1.10.0 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113699
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rhoriguchi opened pull request #113700 → cm-rgb: add pysensors and lm_sensors → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113700
<infinisil> slby[m]: Huh, what's the yaml you're trying to write?
<infinisil> Oh, you mean like `keyvalue = "\"value\"";`?
<slby[m]> Yes! I think thats what I mean. I don't think I have tried it this way yet but `'keyvalue = 'value'' '` does not work
<slby[m]> Ah, I think now matrix does some escaping..
<infinisil> slby[m]: That looks like invalid json
<infinisil> But I guess I know what you mean
<infinisil> ,escape {keyvalue: "value"}
<{^_^}> Escape this in '' strings with: {keyvalue: "value"}
<{^_^}> Escape this in " strings with: {keyvalue: \"value\"}
<infinisil> > { keys = [ { key = "{keyvalue: \"value\"}"; } ]; }
<{^_^}> { keys = <CODE>; }
<infinisil> slby[m]: ^
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar merged pull request #93401 → mbrola: init at 3.3 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/93401
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<clever> > builtins.toJSON { key = "value"; }
<{^_^}> "{\"key\":\"value\"}"
<infinisil> Certainly looks wrong to have a structured set within a string within a structured set..
<clever> yaml is a superset of json, so any yaml parser will also accept json
<tpw_rules> wait what, don't you have to reindent it?
<clever> correct, you can just throw toJSON output right into a yaml parser
<clever> and it just works
<infinisil> clever: Yeah that's what pkgs.yaml does underneath
<tpw_rules> how does the indenting work
<adisbladis> infinisil: Btw, shouldn't generators have preferLocalBuild
<clever> tpw_rules: indenting is just to let you skip using { and }
<tpw_rules> oh weird
<slby[m]> infinisil: I think thats what I started with, that gets me the escape characters also in the generated yaml. Maybe theres something really simple I am overlooking.
<clever> if you use {} then you dont have to indent
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #112276 → treewide: makeWrapper buildInputs to nativeBuildInputs, makeWrapper: use proper shell when cross-compiling → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/112276
<infinisil> adisbladis: Probably not https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/4442
<{^_^}> nix#4442 (by domenkozar, 5 weeks ago, open): allowSubstitutes/preferLocalBuild are an anti-feature
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed 64 commits to staging-next: https://git.io/Jty5X
<infinisil> slby[m]: Are you sure?
<infinisil> Because Nix doesn't pass those escaping chars along
<infinisil> But they might be escaped again in the represented yaml
<infinisil> Wait
<adisbladis> infinisil: Well... I'm on a very high latency connection and it takes several seconds to realise a generator derivation because of the cache round trips
<infinisil> Yeha no it should work
<adisbladis> Also that issue is not concluded yet
<adisbladis> I disagree with preferLocalBuild being an anti feature
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<infinisil> slby[m]: So what's the result you get and what is wrong about it?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zimbatm merged pull request #113671 → gerrit: 3.3.1 -> 3.3.2 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113671
<clever> matrix'd once more!
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<infinisil> adisbladis: Yeah I guess preferLocalBuild is fine
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<adisbladis> infinisil:
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<adisbladis> It really helps on high latency connections
<adisbladis> Rn it's super annoying to explore anything
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<infinisil> slby[m]: As said before yaml is a superset of json
<infinisil> And json does need escapes to represent " within strings
<infinisil> So there's nothing wrong with this
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<infinisil> And the program you're passing this to (assuming it's yaml compliant) should parse that just as if it was a non-json yaml
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @grahamc merged pull request #113687 → perlPackages.{FunctionParameters,TieHashMethod,TestPostgreSQL}: init → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113687
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<tpw_rules> is there documentation anywhere on how to write an updateScript?
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<slby[m]> infinisil:Oh ok, thank for all the help! Maybe the program has a problem then.
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<infinisil> slby[m]: What problem does it have?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed 90 commits to staging: https://git.io/Jty5j
<infinisil> Why does it not work?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fabaff opened pull request #113701 → python3Packages.twitterapi: init 2.6.6 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113701
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar merged pull request #113632 → xdg-desktop-portal: 1.8.0 -> 1.8.1 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113632
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @grahamc opened pull request #113702 → perlPackages.{gotofile,LongJump,Test2PluginMemUsage,Test2PluginUUID,Test2Harness}: init → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113702
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<drozdziak1> is it possible to inherit ...; ?
<drozdziak1> > inherit ...;
<{^_^}> error: syntax error, unexpected INHERIT, at (string):477:1
<drozdziak1> > {inherit ...}
<{^_^}> error: syntax error, unexpected ELLIPSIS, at (string):477:10
<drozdziak1> > {inherit ...;}
<{^_^}> error: syntax error, unexpected ELLIPSIS, at (string):477:10
<drozdziak1> oh, there's yournameforargsattrs{foo, bar, baz, ...}: yournameforargsattrs
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<drozdziak1> I mean an "@" before {
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<sterni> > ({ foo, bar, ... }@args: args.baz) { foo = 2; bar = 3; baz = 42; }
<{^_^}> 42
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<sterni> drozdziak1: you want something like that right? ^
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<drozdziak1> sterni: Yes, I'm porting borgbackup.nix to home-manager systemd.user.timers
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<__monty__> ,locate go
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @sternenseemann closed pull request #112347 → ocamlPackages.uucp: 11.0.0 -> 13.0.0 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/112347
<g-w1> anyone here use emacs with nix and have a way to use nix-shell environments from emacs? I am having trouble with nix-mode and nix-buffer. thanks
<adisbladis> Pretty much, the popular solution is direnv + one of the two emacs direnv integrations
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<slby[m]> infinisil: I finally found out what happened! There was a rogue `}` in my configuration from experimenting. Somehow the Program still was fine with it but the args were empty `[]` for this particular setting.
<fuzzypixelz> why do people use nix on alpine in particular?
<fuzzypixelz> like in the docker image mini tutorial on nixos.org
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @symphorien opened pull request #113703 → nixos/sane: allow to disable enabled-by-default plugins → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113703
<infinisil> fuzzypixelz: I guess just because the official docker image is (yet) based on alpine
<infinisil> I think adisbladis was working on improving that though
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fabaff opened pull request #113704 → python39Packages.pyxiaomigateway: init at 0.13.4 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113704
<adisbladis> Yeah.. Just need some energy to push the last 10%
<adisbladis> Which is all social and organisation
<adisbladis> Not the fun technical bits
<slby[m]> Is it possible for a configuration to reference itself?
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<g-w1> adispladis, is there a way to just source a .nix file from emacs? I have a lot of .nix files for my environments and would rather not add the complexity of direnv
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<g-w1> how can i use M-x nix-shell (from nix-mode)? I gave it a path to the .nix file but then it asks for a Nix Attr
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<sterni> slby[m]: every configuration module is passed the config argument if you mean that
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @github-actions[bot] closed pull request #113693 → pythonPackages.blinker: execute tests → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113693
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<{^_^}> [nix] @regnat pushed to ca/copy-drv-outputs « Don't crash when copying realisations to a non-ca remote »: https://git.io/JtyFb
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis merged pull request #107777 → emacs: add currently compiling package dirs to load-path → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/107777
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danieldk opened pull request #113705 → softmaker-office: 1020 -> 1030 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113705
<adisbladis> bqv: ^
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<slby[m]> sterni: Ah, yeah that was very vague, sorry. That's not what I meant.
<slby[m]> I have a config for a program that I want to pass the program, but I also want the program to execute itself with a different argument but the same configuration.
<slby[m]> So the configuration is in a way recursive. Because I would need the path of the configuration in the configuration.
<{^_^}> [nix] @regnat pushed to ca/copy-drv-outputs « Ensure that the ca-derivations bit is set when copying realisations »: https://git.io/JtybC
<sterni> slby[m]: how do you build the derivation?
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<sterni> non fixed-output derivations can be self-referntial: lib.fix (self: pkgs.writeText "my-config" "path to myself: ${self}")
<slby[m]> sterni: I was planning on using the pkgs.formats.yaml generator.
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<sterni> slby[m]: is it a module?
<slby[m]> I don't know. it is from here.
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<sterni> slby[m]: I meant are you writing a module for the program?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 reopened pull request #113693 → pythonPackages.blinker: execute tests → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113693
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<slby[m]> sterni: Ah, no I am basically just passing the configuration directly to the program.
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<bqv> adisbladis: <3
<sterni> slby[m]: but where?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fabaff opened pull request #113706 → python3Packages.pymysensors: init at 0.20.1 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113706
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak closed pull request #113688 → [20.09] bitcoin: 0.20.1 -> 0.21.0 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113688
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @symphorien opened pull request #113707 → sane-backends: 1.0.30 -> 1.0.32 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113707
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @RaghavSood merged pull request #113627 → wasabiwallet: 1.1.12.3 -> 1.1.12.4 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113627
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #113376 → carp: 0.3.0 -> 0.5.0 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113376
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #112527 → montserrat: 1.0 -> 7.210 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/112527
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #112979 → python3Packages.tellduslive: init at 0.10.11 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/112979
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #113393 → python3Packages.adb-shell: 0.3.0 -> 0.3.1 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113393
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis merged pull request #99485 → emacsPackages.magit-delta: add git as a build-time dependency → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/99485
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #113681 → dap: init at 3.10 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113681
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fabaff opened pull request #113708 → python3Packages.freebox-api: init at 0.0.9 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113708
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #111755 → ankisyncd: 2.1.0 -> 2.2.0 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/111755
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #113693 → pythonPackages.blinker: execute tests → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113693
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<g-w1> what is the easiest way to reconfigure dynamic binaries (to use the nix dyld path) on the cli?
<lambda-11235> I am having trouble with patchELF. It seems to leaving the loader as /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2. Any ideas on what could be going wrong?
<g-w1> we have the same problem!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 opened pull request #113709 → pythonPackages.lazr-restfulclient: prepare tests → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113709
<lambda-11235> It's a common problem :P
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #113295 → treewide: add targetPrefix to hardcoded references to CC=cc → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113295
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 opened pull request #113710 → pythonPackages.launchpadlib: fix tests by using pytestCheckHook → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113710
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #112854 → python39Packages.fixtures: fix build → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/112854
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #113711 → libiodbc: 3.52.12 -> 3.52.14 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113711
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<lambda-11235> ok, now my problem is how do I substitute on all non-ELF files?
<lambda-11235> Actually how do I fix all these hard coded paths?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos pushed to master « chromiumDev: 90.0.4412.3 -> 90.0.4421.5 »: https://git.io/JtyhS
<g-w1> non-elf?
<sterni> lambda-11235: patchelf --set-interpreter ?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos opened pull request #113712 → ungoogled-chromium: 88.0.4324.150 -> 88.0.4324.182 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113712
<lambda-11235> There are tons of config files that haves paths starting from root. i.e. something.xml has "/usr/bin/subprogram"
<sterni> lambda-11235: have a look at the substitiute* functions in stdenv
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<sterni> lambda-11235: for shebangs, patchShebangs is already in fixupPhase normally
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos merged pull request #113660 → nvme-cli: add libuuid input → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113660
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<drozdziak1> How can I eval the borgbackup module? I'm getting the value with unresolved assertions, I need a way to call `lib/eval-config.nix` on an example borg config
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Atemu opened pull request #113713 → packages-config: refactor and simplification → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113713
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ajs124 merged pull request #113616 → texstudio: 3.0.4 -> 3.1.0 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113616
<drozdziak1> or any NixOS module for that matter
<ajs124> you can use pkgs.nixos
<lordcirth_> drozdziak1, why do you need to eval it?
<ajs124> and just pass it the config you want to test (and maybe some minimal config to shut up some assertions)
<drozdziak1> ajs124 I don't see the file imported without being called anywhere
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<drozdziak1> lordcirth_: I want to port the borg backup systemd service generator and I'm extremely lazy :P
<drozdziak1> (to home-manager)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ilian opened pull request #113714 → nixos/steam: Add port forwarding options → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113714
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vojta001 opened pull request #113715 → miniflux: fix link to docs → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113715
<exarkun> Anyone run into this vgo2nix failure before?
<exarkun> fatal: empty string is not a valid pathspec. please use . instead if you meant to match all paths
<exarkun> Unable to checkout refs/tags/v1.0.1 from https://github.com/googleapis/google-cloud-go.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 opened pull request #113716 → wpa_supplicant: allow both imperative and declarative networks → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113716
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-20.09 advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/6bebc91e288 (from 20 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-20.09)
<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/e88bfd7c928 (from 5 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-unstable)
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<drozdziak1> Is it possible to access the directory of current nixpkgs somehow?
<gchristensen> > pkgs.path
<{^_^}> /var/lib/nixbot/nixpkgs/master/repo
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<drozdziak1> gchristensen: Thanks!
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<attila_lendvai> how come that fetchFromGitHub doesn't fail for me when i change the hash to something wrong? could it be that it's fetching the sources from cache.nixos.org and skips the hash check? if so, can i force it somehow?
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<exarkun> attila_lendvai: How wrong did you make the hash?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed to release-20.09 « rivet: add sansmath to fix make-plots »: https://git.io/JtSJ7
<attila_lendvai> exarkun, i have updated the rev to a new git hash, and didn't update the sha256
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #113570 → Remove system config kernel parameter → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113570
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<attila_lendvai> and to my great surprise, it has successfully built.
<clever> attila_lendvai: it computes $out based purely on the sha256
<exarkun> So it noticed that you already have something matching that hash
<attila_lendvai> i see some .narinfo downloads from cache. maybe that is it?
<clever> attila_lendvai: if you claim the sha256 didnt change, it uses the old build, because you said the contents are the same
<exarkun> sometimes I flip the last digit of the hash to anything else
<exarkun> sometimes I go out of my way to run a nix-prefetch and copy the correct hash before trying to build
<attila_lendvai> clever, oh. so, the key here is sha256, and rev and github is only consulted when it's not found?
<clever> attila_lendvai: correct
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<attila_lendvai> makes sense after the fact, but that's a surprise to a newbie. and one who has already built a non-trivial package... :)
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<exarkun> I think it has surprised more people than only you, yes
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ajs124 merged pull request #113327 → lrzip: 0.631 -> 0.640 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113327
<attila_lendvai> ouch, one more surprise: C-c during a nix-build leaves half-downloaded sources in /nix/store and then subsequent nix-build calls fail until a nix-collect-garbage
<clever> attila_lendvai: that shouldnt happen
<clever> attila_lendvai: nix wont register the product as valid in sqlite until the download completes and it matches the sha256 you claimed
<clever> any non-valid files are ignored when checking if it exists, and are silently deleted upon starting a build
<attila_lendvai> clever, well, i C-c'd the build, subsequent builds have consistently failed with the same error, and nix-collect-garbage resolved the issue. not sure what happened under the hood. this is a go module.
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<clever> attila_lendvai: you can also add `repeat = 1` to /etc/nix/nix.conf, to make nix build everything twice, and fail if it cant product bit-identical results
<exarkun> Might be because you had the older content for what you claimed was the newer version, and then running gc removed that bogus data from the store because it was unreferenced?
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<attila_lendvai> clever, good to know, thanks!
<attila_lendvai> exarkun, could be. i was messing around quickly, and my model of this all is still somewhat foggy, so i can't really think this through
<clever> attila_lendvai: you should also never edit anything in /nix/store/
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<bqv> clever: heh I do it every day
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed 14 commits to haskell-updates: https://git.io/JtSUZ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Emantor opened pull request #113718 → gpuvis: init at 20210108 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113718
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed 14 commits to haskell-updates: https://git.io/JtSUl
<attila_lendvai> do people use some emacs integration with nix to evaluate expressions from the editor, and/or open a repl comint buffer? what's the usual development env? i'm messing in xterm and nix-build stuff, but i guess there must be more sophisticated stuff i never saw anywhere mentioned.
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<clever> attila_lendvai: there is also `nix repl`
<attila_lendvai> i'm planning to embark on implementing openvpn-like multi-instance services for bee, and it's complex enough that i will need to take a look at the expansion of my expressions
<attila_lendvai> also, i'd be grateful for hints what other services do something like openvpn. i'll need almost completely identical service instances, besides their dataDir and another option
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<exarkun> openvpn itself is available as a nixos service
<exarkun> so I imagine you can either use that or at least learn a lot from its implementation
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @sternenseemann opened pull request #113719 → maintainers: change my email address → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113719
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<attila_lendvai> clever, re that repeat = 1... i'm on nixos, and /etc/nix/nic.conf is readonly/generated, but the nixos config doesn't have a repeat option. shall i just edit the file until the next nixos-rebuild?
<attila_lendvai> err, no, "read-only filesystem"
<clever> attila_lendvai: nix.extraOptions = "repeat = 1";
<clever> then nixos-rebuild will do it for you
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti merged pull request #112936 → Update Haskell package set to Stackage Nightly 2021-02-12 (plus other fixes) → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/112936
<attila_lendvai> oh, should have guessed. thanks!
<clever> `--option repeat 0` can be passed to nixos-rebuild to force it back off, incase you find yourself unable to rebuild
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<attila_lendvai> "round 1/2", yay! thanks clever!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @megheaiulian opened pull request #113720 → ma1sd: 2.1.1 -> 2.4.0 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113720
<bqv> > pkgs.emacs.pkgs.nix-mode
<{^_^}> "<derivation /nix/store/vzvkbprjv6shibgpk60r5n7bn0ijya7l-emacs-nix-mode-20210115.340.drv>"
<bqv> attila_lendvai: ^ has M-x nix-repl
* attila_lendvai has found himself in nix-repl
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<attila_lendvai> and how can i look at the "expansion" of my nixos/modules/services/networking/bee.nix in the repl? i don't even know the proper nomenclature... :|
* attila_lendvai has managed to callPackage it, and got back a lambda
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<attila_lendvai> no, it's not a lambda, it's a set. but it's not printed deep enough.
<clever> attila_lendvai: modules cant be loaded with callPackage
<clever> attila_lendvai: you must instead do something like `nix repl ~/apps/nixpkgs/nixos --arg configuration ./configuration.nix`
<clever> that will load a local checkout of nixpkgs, and load a configuration.nix from a custom path
<clever> then you can just eval `config.foo` to see what all of the config contains
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<clever> configuration.nix can then set options to make the module do something
<attila_lendvai> clever, i don't want to load them per se. i want to see their intermediate expansion. i.e. what a multi-server openvpn config "expands" to
<attila_lendvai> clever, that sounds what i want, i'll try
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<drozdziak1> how do I turn a list of strings into an attrset with the strings as keys and a chosen different attrset as values?
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<colemickens> does someone have an example of nixos config configuring mimetypes and default applications. I am a bit exasperated with Discord's insistence of opening in the wrong browser.
<clever> colemickens: ive had even worse problems, chrome and discord will either fail to spawn chrome entirely (the sandbox breaks it), or the new chrome process fails to contact the old one, then double-opens my profile, corruption all cookies
<clever> steam and discord&
<clever> *
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<colemickens> my immediate response to that is not appropriate for the room, that's really awful.
<clever> colemickens: to make things worse, chrome tends to restore all 4000 of my tabs when that happens
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos merged pull request #113712 → ungoogled-chromium: 88.0.4324.150 -> 88.0.4324.182 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113712
<colemickens> In firefox if you force close, open browser, accidentally close browser, you lose the one chance at session recovery.
<clever> so the ram usage doubles on the spot
<clever> chrome does that too
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthiasbeyer opened pull request #113721 → [20.09] Update hugo → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113721
<clever> if you close without restoring, its toast
<colemickens> I don't think I've been singlely so mad about a single UX thing ever. Lost so much "data". Browser session is my biggest un-backed-up "liability" these days.
<clever> colemickens: i use session buddy in chrome to back that up
<clever> i tried one-tab, and it failed at its ONE BLOODY JOB, and all of its state is reset after each startup, lol
<clever> the main problem, is that if chrome auto-restores tabs, they arent loaded, so it restores quickly
<clever> but if session buddy restores tabs, it loads EVERY SINGLE ONE
<colemickens> alright, I'll have to look into that
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos pushed to release-20.09 « ungoogled-chromium: 88.0.4324.150 -> 88.0.4324.182 »: https://git.io/JtSTE
<clever> you have to restore it one window at a time, then reboot chrome
<bqv> Never been more glad I don't use chrome/firefox
<sshow> I am packaging a shell script that uses 3 other nixos packages at runtime. Should these be specified as deps in the package derivation? If yes, should I set them as buildInputs?
<colemickens> sshow: probably!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rgrunbla opened pull request #113722 → galene: 0.2 -> 0.3 and bugfix of the associated module → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113722
<colemickens> bqv: are you all in on nyxt or whatever it is?
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<bqv> colemickens: actually now I'm using emacs
<bqv> I was on nyxt for months, yeah
<bqv> It's perfectly usable
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<bqv> But emacs-webkit is cool enough to steal me from it
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #113723 → nodejs-15_x: 15.8.0 -> 15.9.0 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113723
<bqv> Stuff like this is still cool though https://nyxt.atlas.engineer/article/watch-mode.org
<attila_lendvai> clever, this started to feel like programmming in the nix repl, your help is greatly appreciated!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cab404 opened pull request #113724 → hol: 10 -> 14 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113724
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Thesola10 opened pull request #113725 → maintainer: update email for thesola10 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113725
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #113719 → maintainers: change my email address → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113719
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @kidd opened pull request #113726 → extrakto: add tmuxPlugin extrakto from git → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113726
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<sbock> hey everybody! i found a rather small cli tool which is not packaged in nixpkgs. i wrote a working derivation, however, i don't know if it is worth contributing to nixpkgs or if i should just contribute to nur :) i read through the contributing to nixpkgs guide but this does not specify what packages are wanted. the tool in question is https://github.com/ivaaaan/smug
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<flokli> sbock: shouldn't be too big... Do you want to send a PR, adding yourself as a maintainer for it?
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<sbock> flokli: sure...why not :) thanks for the quick respone!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jpas opened pull request #113727 → factorio: 1.1.21 -> 1.1.25 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113727
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<gchristensen> how can I change the flake in my local checkout of hydra to point to a specific branch in my fork of nixpkgs?
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<gchristensen> `nix --experimental-features "flakes nix-command" flake update --override-input nixpkgs github:grahamc/nixpkgs/perlpkgs` not bad!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl merged pull request #113717 → ocamlPackages.git: 3.2.0 -> 3.3.0; ocamlPackages.irmin: 2.4.0 -> 2.5.1 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113717
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<drozdziak1> How do I dump a value in an expression during evaluation?
<ambroisie> drozdziak1: have you tried `builtins.trace` ?
<sterni> drozdziak1: builtins.trace (lib.generators.toPretty {} valueToDump) valueThisExpressionReturns
<sterni> > builtins.trace (lib.generators.toPretty {} { "foo" = 12; bar = { z = 3; }; }) 12
<{^_^}> 12
<sterni> ({^_^} hides the debug output of course)
<sterni> toPretty pretty prints any nix value into a string
<attila_lendvai> clever, so, i'm making progress, but i can only see the config that i provided: x.config.services.bee, but the "expanded" part is empty: i.e. there's no x.config.users.groups.bee that should have been "generated"
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<clever> attila_lendvai: did you enable the service in the configuration.nix you supplied?
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<attila_lendvai> clever, to the best of my knowledge, yes. i even tried to remove the mkIf cfg.enable part
<colemickens> handy for updating inputs and commiting with a nice message: `nix flake update --recreate-lock-file --no-registries --commit-lock-file`
<clever> attila_lendvai: you may need to restart `nix repl` after each change
* attila_lendvai tries
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<attila_lendvai> clever, that was it, thank you once again!
<clever> attila_lendvai: `nix repl` caches the contents of any file it parses
<sshow> what command can I use to see all binaries a package provides? e.g. `pkgs.coreutils`
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<attila_lendvai> is there a way to increase the print depth in nix repl? 'nix repl print depth' comes up empty...
<clever> attila_lendvai: :p
<clever> attila_lendvai: as-in, `:p foo` in the repl, `:?` shows all cmds
* attila_lendvai feels ashamed for having been unable to find that out by himself
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/41edfe8c205 (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
<clever> attila_lendvai: it also tells you to :? on startup!
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<ket15> Hello, I want to launch steam inside of steam-run bash. But it cannot connect to network. How can I do that?
<ket15> Yes, very strange need
<sterni> clever: wouldn't :r work as well?
<clever> sterni: sometimes, but ive found it to be buggy
<sterni> I expect nothing less
<bbigras> If I use `imports = [ ]` to split my config and I set `networking.firewall.allowedTCPPorts = [ ];` in 2 files. will they be merged or one will overwrite the other?
<sterni> bbigras: they will be merged, i. e. appended to each other
<sterni> bbigras: (unless you use stuff like lib.mkForce)
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<bbigras> sterni: thanks!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @grahamc merged pull request #113702 → perlPackages.{gotofile,LongJump,Test2PluginMemUsage,Test2PluginUUID,Test2Harness}: init → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113702
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<apache8080> has anyone here built the linux kernel with FIPS enabled for nixos?
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<Yaniel> no but I build firefox like 24 times a day
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq pushed to master « containerd: move completion to installPhase »: https://git.io/JtSt8
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq merged pull request #113230 → go: default to 1.16, use binary bootstrap for all platforms → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113230
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq merged pull request #113054 → go_1_14: set knownVulnerabilities → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113054
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<{^_^}> [hydra] @grahamc opened pull request #872 → Use `yath` for testing Hydra → https://github.com/NixOS/hydra/pull/872
<attila_lendvai> how can i merge a list of sets? i.e. i need to generate both systemd.services.foo-n = {} and also systemd.tmpfiles.rules = [ ... "foo-n" ...], one such set for each service instance.
<attila_lendvai> or shall i just write two generator functions?
<attila_lendvai> err, no, even with two functions i need a way to merge at the end
<sterni> attila_lendvai: just generate the services set and then from that the tmpfiles list
<sterni> would that work?
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<colemickens> It seems like our sshd settings are kind of restrictive
<attila_lendvai> sterni, i don't see how that would work. but i was wrong, i should be able to do this with two functions.
<colemickens> maybe because they're based on 5 year old articles (I suspect because that's what the Arch wiki also points to)
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<sterni> tmpfiles.rules is only a list of the service names, isn't it?
<ambroisie> Hello people: I am getting into home-manager, and I would like to know if there is a better way to handle my vim configuration
<ambroisie> When I read the manual, it seems like home-manager can only configure plugins and the `.vimrc`, however I would like to be able to use the whole `.vim` directory file hierarchy
<ambroisie> I already have a fairly extensive configuration in my old arch-based dotfiles, and would rather keep the idiomatic way of configuring my editor
<ambroisie> What can I do in this case?
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<ambroisie> And also, what's this about `programs.{neo,}vim.package`? Does it mean I need to use that as my user's `vim` package instead of the `pkgs.{neo,}vim` one ?
<ambroisie> s/{neo,}/g apparently that's just a vim thing?
<colemickens> for consideration, I think we should add some new things to what our sshd accepts, maybe: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/113729
<{^_^}> #113729 (by colemickens, 30 seconds ago, open): sshd: revisit default enabled KexAlgorithms, MACs, Ciphers, and hostkeyalgorithms
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<sterni> ambroisie: the .package attribute is usually used to allow to change something about how the package used for the given module is built
<ambroisie> sterni: what's weird is that the documentation for `vim.package` indicates that it is read-only
<sterni> ambroisie: for neovim you can enable and disable python support for example, via overridding https://nixos.org/manual/nixpkgs/stable/#sec-pkg-override
<ambroisie> otherwise yeah, I already saw that "design pattern" when writing previous configurations
<sterni> ambroisie: might be, then the idea is maybe that you can reuse this in the rest of your configuration to directly invoke the right vim version
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<sterni> or set your EDITOR / VISUAL env vars? if you have to do that manually
<ambroisie> I guess it's more that the wording in the documentation was really unusual... I'll go look at the sources
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @collares opened pull request #113730 → emacs: precompile trampolines in parallel → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113730
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<sterni> seems like it's readonly for vim, but you can change it for neovim
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<ambroisie> I'm more worried about the whole `.vim` directory handling anyways ^^'
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<sterni> well you can always write your own module :p
<ambroisie> sterni: sure... At least that'll be a nice contribution :')
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<attila_lendvai> where are types.nullOr and friends documented? i can't seem to find it, nor are they available in the repl
<attila_lendvai> sterni, yep, they are a list. and it already works, i'm making good progress
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bryanasdev000 opened pull request #113731 → nextcloud-client: 3.0.3 -> 3.1.3 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113731
<attila_lendvai> infinisil, thanks! apparently i still have a hard time guessing what belongs where in the nix land...
<infinisil> Yeah it's pretty tricky
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<sterni> attila_lendvai: nice
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pacien opened pull request #113732 → gscan2pdf: 2.9.1 -> 2.11.1 → https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/113732
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<MachX[m]> what software is used for the logs?
<simpson> Context? Ideally one would avoid logging and instead use metrics.
<MachX[m]> for the nixOS irc chat logs
<simpson> Ah. I think samueldr wrote it?
<samueldr> nope, hosting it though
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<MachX[m]> cool, thanks
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<drozdziak1> `boot.kernelPackages = pkgs.linuxPackages_5_10` isn't working for me when I try to change my kernel, what do I need to do to install 5.10?
<drozdziak1> it says that linuxPackages_5_10 9is not of type `package`
<drozdziak1> crap, okay, that's not about the kernel itself
<drozdziak1> nevermind then
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<hexa-> drozdziak1: you probably want pkgs.linuxPackages_latest instead
<samueldr> hexa-: 5.10 being an LTS should be a fine choice
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<hexa-> ah fair
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<drozdziak1> when does 5.11 make it to `release-20.09`?