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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #102140 → deeptools,tebreak,python3Packages.cnvkit,python3Packages.HTSeq: Fix test → https://git.io/JTydG
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<bqv> d.nnr
<bqv> can someone give me a hand here, i'm trapped in a web of fixedpoints
<bqv> trying to override lispPackages
<bqv> i can override a package, but i can't seem to override all of them
<bqv> so transitive packages escape the override
<bqv> specifically, the following fails to build:
<bqv> > let clwrapper = pkgs.wrapLisp pkgs.ccl; qlp = pkgs.quicklispPackagesFor clwrapper; in qlp.iterate
<{^_^}> "<derivation /nix/store/25ip0cax3lwn24ic23hdpz3rpszp5ada-lisp-iterate-20200610-git.drv>"
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<bqv> the following builds:
<bqv> > let clwrapper = pkgs.wrapLisp pkgs.ccl; qlp = pkgs.quicklispPackagesFor clwrapper; in qlp.iterate.overrideAttrs (drv: { nativeBuildInputs = [ qlp.rt ]; })
<{^_^}> "<derivation /nix/store/61l1s6irr5pi16pffhhxnjw1msjgbm66-lisp-iterate-20200610-git.drv>"
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #104917 → mdds: fix compilation on darwin → https://git.io/JkyKv
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<bqv> but i then need to override qlp to use that version
<bqv> and it doesn't have an overrideScope mechanism
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #104946 → cargo-expand: 1.0.0 -> 1.0.4 → https://git.io/JkSmr
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #104938 → alembic: 1.7.15 -> 1.7.16 → https://git.io/JkyjI
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #104939 → amber: 0.5.5 -> 0.5.8 → https://git.io/JkSe7
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #104945 → bear: 3.0.2 -> 3.0.3 → https://git.io/JkSkZ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #104581 → rocksdb: 6.12.7 -> 6.14.5 → https://git.io/JkrCu
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<nf> why isn't auto-optimise-store on by default?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #104519 → dbmate: 1.10.0 -> 1.11.0 → https://git.io/JkVST
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<nf> (i'm gonna guess "because it's slow")
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #103084 → teamspeak_client: 3.5.3 -> 3.5.6 → https://git.io/JkeiJ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #104598 → thanos: 0.16.0 -> 0.17.0 → https://git.io/Jkr1q
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #104949 → clightning: 0.9.1 -> 0.9.2 → https://git.io/JkS33
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @chkno opened pull request #104950 → tor-browser-bundle-bin: 10.0.4 → 10.0.5 → https://git.io/JkS38
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis pushed to master « rnnoise-plugin: Deduplicated package »: https://git.io/JkSsu
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #104943 → bazarr: 0.9.0.6 -> 0.9.0.7 → https://git.io/JkSUh
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #104952 → cloudflared: 2020.11.10 -> 2020.11.11 → https://git.io/JkSsD
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #104949 → clightning: 0.9.1 -> 0.9.2 → https://git.io/JkS33
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #103795 → ttf-tw-moe: no_version -> 2020-11-14 → https://git.io/Jk3Wd
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #101868 → fasmg: init at j27m → https://git.io/JTP2V
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<rogerr> i tried to run nix-shell -p openssl but it error that unable to download ... SSL peer certificate or SSH remote key was not OK (60). what's that mean?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #103884 → xlife: init at 6.7.5 → https://git.io/JkG4c
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #104953 → cordless: 2020-10-24 -> 2020-11-22 → https://git.io/JkSGX
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<unclechu> hi. what would you recommend to change default applications? when i try to “open containing folder” in of a downloaded file in firefox it opens smplayer
<unclechu> i’d prefer a file manager instead
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #104653 → dropbox: 83.4.152->111.3.447 → https://git.io/JkKB9
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<bqv> nevermind
<bqv> got it with some cheeky recursive fun
<bqv> gonna assume there's no nicer way, since nobody responded
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #101774 → sftpman: init at 1.1.3 → https://git.io/JT6vf
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<bqv> "could not resolve host: tarballs.nixos.org"
<bqv> "could not resolve host: github.com"
<bqv> great.
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<clever> bqv: is /etc/resolv.conf setup right? can you ping 8.8.8.8?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #102200 → phd2: init at 2.6.9dev1 → https://git.io/JT9CF
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<bqv> clever: so, ping has a missing libcap-ng library and doesn't work, but my browser still works fine, and i can curl/dig things fine. /etc/resolv.conf looks accurate, and i restarted systemd-resolved to no avail
<bqv> i think this is a feature of this being a longstanding repl
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<bqv> or not... :r doesn't help
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/JkSc1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #102263 → julius: 1.4.1 -> 1.5.1 → https://git.io/JTHPO
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<bqv> oh, oh wow
<bqv> it's cause i had sha256 = null
<bqv> that's an extraordinarily absurd failure
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #104911 → mastodon-bot: 1.10.0 -> 1.10.2 → https://git.io/Jky2F
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<rogerr> i install pkgs.rust-analyzer in home.packages then add coc-rust-analyzer to programs.neovim.plugins but when i start nvim with a rust file for the first time it says it can't find rust analyzer and asks if i wanna download it. what i'm doing wrong pls?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #104857 → corosync: 2.4.3 -> 2.4.5 → https://git.io/JkMMs
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<bqv> oh sh*t it worked
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #102442 → pythonPackages.imantics: init at 0.1.12 → https://git.io/JT54A
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<KarlJoad> If I were to start on some infrastructure for supporting GNU Octave packages in nixpkgs, what would be the best way to go about it? I know https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/65398 exists.
<{^_^}> #65398 (by matthuszagh, 1 year ago, open): Octave packages support
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @RaghavSood merged pull request #104926 → maintainers: boothead -> commandodev → https://git.io/Jky5U
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #104957 → drone-cli: 1.2.2 -> 1.2.4 → https://git.io/JkS4F
<SplitFire[m]> Hello everyone!
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<SplitFire[m]> D*m android element app screw my previous long message :)
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<SplitFire[m]> So, one more time. I'm new to nixos and faced a problem with encodings
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<SplitFire[m]> I'm interested in CP1251 encoding but seems that latest version of glibc dont support that
<SplitFire[m]> Any help?
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<raghavsood> SplitFire[m]: I'm not too familiar with how locales are handled in Nix, but perhaps you could do something similar to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/84cf00f98031e93f389f1eb93c4a7374a33cc0a9/pkgs/tools/text/multitran/data/default.nix#L3 ?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #102661 → tmuxPlugins.vim-tmux-focus-events: init at unstable 2010-10-06 → https://git.io/JTb2y
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<SplitFire[m]> raghavsood: seems interesting but how to do that? Rebuild glibc with that command?
<raghavsood> Not a clue, sorry - you might have better luck in a few hours when more people are around
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #100758 → git-delete-merged-branches: init at 6.0.5 → https://git.io/JTnmh
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @penguwin opened pull request #104958 → charm: 0.8.4 -> 0.8.5 → https://git.io/JkSEz
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #104959 → exoscale-cli: 1.20.2 -> 1.21.0 → https://git.io/JkSEK
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #104960 → fend: 0.1.9 -> 0.1.10 → https://git.io/JkSzp
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #104961 → fluent-bit: 1.6.4 -> 1.6.5 → https://git.io/JkS25
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<YeongSheng> Hi
<YeongSheng> I need help removing/uninstalling a broken nix install from macOS Catalina
<YeongSheng> Is there any writeup I can follow?
<YeongSheng> I had a working nix install while in macOS Catalina, and since upgrading to Big Sur, my nix is no longer working.
<YeongSheng> I tried to reinstall nix with multi-user mode, but was told installer detected a previous /nix install and gave me a bunch of instructions to remove the nix install
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<YeongSheng> However, when I executed those scripts, the uninstall was reporting errors in Big Sur
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<rogerr> i install pkgs.rust-analyzer in home.packages then add coc-rust-analyzer to programs.neovim.plugins but when i start nvim with a rust file for the first time it says it can't find rust analyzer and asks if i wanna download it. what i'm doing wrong pls?
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<rogerr> how can i get path to rust-analyzer package?
<rogerr> and is there any way to hardcode it? need to put it in the coc-rust-analyzer config .json
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<raghavsood> If your config.json is managed by a nix derivation (such as home-manager, or a module), you could put in `${pkgs.rust-analyzer}` and it will output the path in the nix store - can do `${pkgs.rust-analyzer}/bin` if you need a specific sub directory
<rogerr> raghavsood it's not managed by home manager. any way to have it dynamically looked up so i can hardcode it?
<raghavsood> `ll `which rust-analyzer` should work
<raghavsood> Remove the first backtick, IRC doesn't seem to like nested ones
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zakame opened pull request #104974 → perlPackages.CommandRunner: init at 0.103 → https://git.io/JkSiC
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<red[evilred]> oh adisbladis (IRC) - my wallet just winced in pain after seeing you mention the SOPINE clusterboard
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mudrii opened pull request #104976 → add new user as maintainer into maintainers-list.nix → https://git.io/JkS1i
<DigitalKiwi> red[evilred]: do you have crypto coins?
<red[evilred]> A few, maybe
<red[evilred]> eek, what happened?
<DigitalKiwi> maybe something to do with this https://www.coindesk.com/coinbase-margin-trading-binance-pickle
<DigitalKiwi> https://www.coindesk.com/news or there are more
<DigitalKiwi> i'm just glad i didn't buy any a few days ago lol
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<red[evilred]> hehe, mine are all 7+ years old
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<red[evilred]> so I'm fine
<DigitalKiwi> or because bitcoin is a scam and 110% speculation a bubble burst was inevitable
<DigitalKiwi> mtgox had 9 of mine when they shut down ;_;
<V> DigitalKiwi: oooof
<red[evilred]> ooof indeed
<raghavsood> You guys should come work with me (I work at an exchange)
<DigitalKiwi> ...i was trying to cash out too but they wouldn't verify my ID without a utility bill which I did not have ;_;
<raghavsood> Days like this are a rollercoaster
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<DigitalKiwi> all my real stocks are green today though which is nice :D
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fzakaria opened pull request #104977 → buildRubyGem: fix to support bundler cmds → https://git.io/JkSy2
<red[evilred]> ooof^3
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<raghavsood> DigitalKiwi: There are people on bitcointalk who will buy your mtgox claim for under face value, if you are into that sort of thing
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<DigitalKiwi> claim?
<DigitalKiwi> (jk i do have one)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl merged pull request #104403 → framac: 21.1 -> 22.0 → https://git.io/Jk2kl
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl pushed commit from @yrashk to master « framac: 21.1 -> 22.0 »: https://git.io/JkSS4
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #104978 → go-jsonnet: 0.16.0 -> 0.17.0 → https://git.io/JkSSo
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @RaghavSood merged pull request #104958 → charm: 0.8.4 -> 0.8.5 → https://git.io/JkSEz
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Gabriel439 opened pull request #104980 → Add `buildDhall*Package` support for generating documentation → https://git.io/JkS9Q
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<rogerr> why can't i run `cargo install wasm-bindgen-cli` after `nix-shell -p openssl`? it panics because "could not find directory of openssl installation" what im doing wrong pls?
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<veleiro> can someone point me to a large flake.lock file they can think of?
<veleiro> for comparisons to lockfiles that other package managers employ :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @sikmir opened pull request #104982 → cudatext: 1.115.0 → 1.118.0 → https://git.io/JkSdc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl opened pull request #104983 → obelisk: 0.4.0 → 0.5.2 → https://git.io/JkSdW
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<mizukota[m]> rogerr your openssl is isolated from your cargo. What are you trying to accomplish? If you need just rust and cargo to work, probably you can install rust and cargo from nixpkgs
<mizukota[m]> veleiro: it's very hard thing yet to combine a lot of flake inputs together, there's no documentation about how to, for example, add overlay to nixpkgs and pass result as flake output
<rogerr> mizukota[m] already said what i wanna do, run `cargo install wasm-bindgen-cli`
<rogerr> my problem isnt getting cargo installed
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<mizukota[m]> but you have cargo installed from the official installer thing, isn't it?
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<rogerr> i installed pkgs.rustup in home.packages
<rogerr> then used rustup to install rustc, cargo and other components
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #104984 → helmsman: 3.5.1 -> 3.6.2 → https://git.io/JkSFX
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<mizukota[m]> @rogerr that is the source of your problem, nix wont patch binaries downloaded using rustup, you need cargo and rustc from nixpkgs
<rogerr> mizukota[m] ohhh so when i should do is install rustup, cargo, and rustc with systempackages or similar, then use rustup only for the other components that i can't get directly from pkgs?
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<mizukota[m]> you cant use rustup at all, it downloads binary blobs. You can use steam-run to launch those binaries manually, but i don't think you really want that. So you should use nix for everything
<mizukota[m]> for example there's a "wasm-bindgen-cli" package in nixpkgs
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #104985 → hey: 0.1.3 -> 0.1.4 → https://git.io/JkSbF
<mizukota[m]> also with cargo installed from nixpkgs you should be able to `cargo install` this thing since it will build from source. But you have to ensure that you have all dependencies installed in your current nix shell
<rogerr> oh wow. mizukota[m] why is rustup in pkgs then?
<mizukota[m]> I have no idea at all =)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #104986 → hidapi: 0.10.0 -> 0.10.1 → https://git.io/JkSNl
<rogerr> you use rust?
<mizukota[m]> no, but i write a lot of nix things for my C and other projects
<DigitalKiwi> rogerr: there are non-nixos nix users that might find it useful on other distributions, but i'm sure there are other reasons too
<DigitalKiwi> like why do we have dpkg :)
<mizukota[m]> or nix bindings for generating qemu image on each nix build without deleting it
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<{^_^}> [nixos-hardware] @bbigras opened pull request #212 → flake.nix: add dell-xps-13-9343 → https://git.io/JkSAJ
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<DigitalKiwi> i don't know why we have that but dpkg comes in handy when all you've got is a .deb and you want to make a nix derivation out of the files
<veleiro> thanks mizukota[m] ! so most flakes only take a few inputs in like nixpkgs?
<rogerr> mizukota[m]++
<{^_^}> mizukota[m]'s karma got increased to 1
<veleiro> or there's no way to easly provide a nixpkgs derivation with an overlay
<mizukota[m]> veleiro yes, i've never seen flake configuration with more than 10 inputs
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg opened pull request #104987 → ###### Motivation for this change → https://git.io/JkSxE
<mizukota[m]> you can do weird trick of import inputs.nixpkgs { overlays = [ ... ]; } and put that as output of your flake, but in next flake you won't be able to repeat that since imported nixpkgs with custom overlays cannot be used as nix store path
<veleiro> why can't it? because its an overlay i suppose
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #104988 → hyper: 2.1.2 -> 3.0.2 → https://git.io/JkSxp
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg opened pull request #104989 → autojump: py2 -> py3 → https://git.io/JkSpU
<mizukota[m]> because imported nixpkgs is not a derivation. And if it would be a derivation, you'll have separated nixpkgs directory for each variant of nixpkgs with overlays you have used, and it's a big waste of space. It's not very expandable, but from the other side it keeps your flakes simple to use and read
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<DigitalKiwi> does ofborg build haskellPackages.* PRs?
<pinpox> O
<{^_^}> [nixos-hardware] @Mic92 pushed to master « add dependabot »: https://git.io/JkShj
<{^_^}> [nixos-hardware] @dependabot[bot] pushed to dependabot/github_actions/cachix/install-nix-action-v12 « build(deps): bump cachix/install-nix-action from v10 to v12 »: https://git.io/JkSjI
<{^_^}> [nixos-hardware] @dependabot[bot] opened pull request #213 → build(deps): bump cachix/install-nix-action from v10 to v12 → https://git.io/JkSjL
<pinpox> I want to deploy a docker container declaratively, which usually takes a password/key via Environment variables. How can I deal with that so they don't end up in the nix store?
<veleiro> thanks for the explanations mizukota[m] ! this is very good information
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<pinpox> I did "docker run -e PASSWD=12345 .. " But I'd like to put the config on github and not have the password there or in the nix store
<{^_^}> [nixos-hardware] @Mic92 pushed to dependabot/github_actions/cachix/install-nix-action-v12 « set nixpkgs to unstable »: https://git.io/JkSjr
<veleiro> flakes is kind of a departure from the monolitic repo i suppose
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #97081 → icon-lang: 9.5.1 -> 9.5.20i → https://git.io/JU3zl
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<veleiro> pinpox: there's git crypt
<veleiro> not sure if that helps
<V> supersandro2000: thank you, I thought that was never going to get merged
<pinpox> veleiro: I want to run a bitwardenRS docker container, The env vars are used for admin tokens and secrets. I don't want other users of the system to be able to read those
<eyJhb> pinpox: source a .env you don't commit? -E PASSWD=$SOMETHING_PASSWD
<pinpox> eyJhb: Where would I soure it? Can I do that in my configuration.nix?
<V> no
<eyJhb> Do you want it to be in your config?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #104960 → fend: 0.1.9 -> 0.1.10 → https://git.io/JkSzp
<V> anything built by nix goes into the nix store, which is world-readable
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<eyJhb> Doesn't seem like a nix thing atm... :p How are you starting your container?
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<eyJhb> V: Since this is more in a git question, it seems like it being in the store is OK
<V> >I don't want other users of the system to be able to read those
<eyJhb> V: well well well
<V> I read that as it being a multi-user system
<eyJhb> You and your smart quotes! Sorry
<V> didn't mean to come off as sarcastic
<V> was intended as e-mail quote, not greentext
<eyJhb> You didn't, just teasing :p
<eyJhb> pinpox: How are you starting your containers?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #104990 → igraph: 0.8.3 -> 0.8.4 → https://git.io/Jk9e5
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<mizukota[m]> for docker-compose things you can define both docker nodes and their nixos insides using arion ( https://docs.hercules-ci.com/arion/ ). But i have no idea how to keep passwords in secret, maybe with environment variables
<eyJhb> Because you can just use --env-file for starting docker, and then it reads it frem there. Then do not commit it, and ensure that no other user can read the env file
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #104961 → fluent-bit: 1.6.4 -> 1.6.5 → https://git.io/JkS25
<pinpox> I was using arch before on the server before and running the container with a normal docker command, passing the ENV vars with -e. Now I'm on nixos and found out I can do that in my configuration.nix like this: https://github.com/pinpox/nixos/blob/7094320cf89bedc234d706ccb5001cd03ac3eb06/machines/porree/configuration.nix#L82
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<pinpox> eyJhb: --env-file?
<pinpox> eyJhb: can I pass that in the configuration.nix part that starts the container?
<pinpox> That would probably solve all my problems
<eyJhb> So. extraOptions = ["--env-file /path/to/file"]; I assume
<pinpox> Ooooh
<veleiro> i dont know that storing secrets in the nix store ever got solved?
<eyJhb> So. extraOptions = ["--env-file=/path/to/file"]; I assume
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #104959 → exoscale-cli: 1.20.2 -> 1.21.0 → https://git.io/JkSEK
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jk9vr
<eyJhb> veleiro: It did not :p
<pinpox> eyJhb: That seems like a perfect solution, thank you
<{^_^}> rfcs#59 (by d-goldin, 1 year ago, closed): [RFC 0059]: Systemd Service Secrets
<eyJhb> Reading from files is the "way to go"
<pinpox> I have a /secrets directory anyway that is not commited
<pinpox> just didn't know how to integrate that when running docker from nix
<mizukota[m]> I forget passwords like once a day, i hope there wont be another "secret storage" with password inside of nix store...
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<eyJhb> pinpox: Perfect! And no problem :D
<{^_^}> #93659 (by ju1m, 18 weeks ago, open): nixos/security.gnupg: provisioning GnuPG-protected secrets through the Nix store
<{^_^}> [nixos-hardware] @Mic92 merged pull request #213 → build(deps): bump cachix/install-nix-action from v10 to v12 → https://git.io/JkSjL
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<pinpox> eyJhb: I saw that, but that has a similar problem I suppose: How do I pass the secrets values without them ending up in the store?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mudrii opened pull request #104992 → Pulumi 2.10.2 > 2.14.0 → https://git.io/Jk9fT
<eyJhb> pinpox: does any of the other users on your server have access to docker?
<pinpox> eyJhb: Not atm
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<{^_^}> [nixos-hardware] @Mic92 closed pull request #209 → update actions with dependabot → https://git.io/JkKXb
<eyJhb> Like configs in .config?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SamirHafez opened pull request #104993 → rescuetime: add multiPlatform updateScript → https://git.io/Jk9fY
<pinpox> eyJhb: I don't understand
<eyJhb> Keep in mind, as soon as anyone have access to docker your system is pwned regarding any secrets
<pinpox> I see
<eyJhb> How do you currently pass secret values to batwarden rs?
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<pinpox> eyJhb: I started the docker container with -e Envs and it created a config file in a named volume
<pinpox> Regarding the packaged non-docker bitwardenrs, I suppose I could just use that and make the config file not world readable?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #104994 → inboxer: 1.2.1 -> 1.2.3 → https://git.io/Jk9fi
<DigitalKiwi> mizukota[m]: your comment reminded me of this https://elvishjerricco.github.io/2018/06/24/secure-declarative-key-management.html
<pinpox> Docker seemed like the easier way, since I already had a container running I could just migarte
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #104988 → hyper: 2.1.2 -> 3.0.2 → https://git.io/JkSxp
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jk9fy
<DigitalKiwi> i use bitwarden though
<DigitalKiwi> totally not biased being as i added the desktop client to nixpkgs
<veleiro> reason to use bitwarden over git crypt?
<DigitalKiwi> err i said that poorly, i don't use bitwarden for nixops, though ther eis a cli...
<pinpox> DigitalKiwi: Do you host a bitwardenrs server on nixos?
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<DigitalKiwi> i meant that they reminded me of password managers and nix stores, of which i like bitwarden as a password manager
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mgttlinger closed pull request #104994 → inboxer: 1.2.1 -> 1.2.3 → https://git.io/Jk9fi
<eyJhb> pinpox: Well you can just stay using Docker for now. Can't really seem to find a way to use the .config withouth it ending in the store
<DigitalKiwi> pinpox: no, not yet, been thinking about it tho
<redcedar[m]> hello, I'm running into an odd issue with an emacs package: I've added org-caldav to my emacs packages expression and successfully rebuilt the system, but the package is not in /nix/store (and not accessible in emacs). I've never had this kind of issue adding a package before. What kind of problem could it be? (Things I've tried: updating the channel; trying to pull the package in via elpa or orgPackages, but this gives me
<redcedar[m]> an error (I'm currently getting it from melpa stable)).
<DigitalKiwi> https://github.com/Open-Bitwarden/server maybe i'll put this in nixos ;D
<pinpox> eyJhb: I think I'll do that and use the --env-file. Seems like a reasonable option. I'm not sure if the env vars are needed onece the container is started for the first time since it create a config file from them in the volume
<eyJhb> Prop not, but doesn't hurt having it there
<eyJhb> The real trouble is just if you plan on other people having access to Docker on the server...
<veleiro> but think about moving to nixos containers =)
<pinpox> veleiro: nixos containers?
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<veleiro> instead of docker
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<pinpox> veleiro: didn't even know that existed. Bitwardenrs comes packaged as docker, that's my main reason for going with docker.
<supersandro2000> V: if you have anything other long waiting send me a link
<supersandro2000> I see if I can do something
<pinpox> Using native bitwardenrs would also be nice if I find a good way to do it
<V> supersandro2000: will bear that in mind <3
<veleiro> yeah i'm currently exploring nixos containers but long term it looks good
<veleiro> extra-container builds on them to make them declarative instead of imperative
<veleiro> and extra-container works on any system with systemd, by systemd-nspawn
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<eyJhb> I use nixos containers for plex and other stuff I don't trust
<eyJhb> Works quite well!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #104995 → ipscan: 3.7.1 -> 3.7.3 → https://git.io/Jk9UO
<veleiro> i mean normal nixos containers you need to rebuild your whole system if you
<veleiro> want declarative
<veleiro> to have it like docker-compose or something
<veleiro> so extra-containers + recent systemd-nspawn merge is what i'm leaning towards
<veleiro> i was done with docker once i couldnt reproduce much of it on arm
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<veleiro> eyJhb: yeah thats nixos containers but thinking per project basis
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<veleiro> i dont want to rebuild my whole host system for someone's containers
<veleiro> extra-container provides that and its portable to systemd machines generally
<pinpox> If I understand correctly nixos-containers doesn't solve the problem with secrets though, as the host's nix store is used by them
<veleiro> sorry i was giving you an answer you didn't ask for
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<veleiro> i would think it'd go back to systemd secrets at that point
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bjpbakker closed pull request #69429 → nvidia: blacklist i2c_nvidia_gpu → https://git.io/JeGEn
<tomturbo> hello, on nixos I can use security.pki.certificates to manage the trusted root certificate authorities. is there an option in nix-shell which allows this to be done on a per-shell basis?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #104978 → go-jsonnet: 0.16.0 -> 0.17.0 → https://git.io/JkSSo
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @kamushadenes opened pull request #104997 → Rambox Pro 1.3.2 > 1.4.1 → https://git.io/Jk9kf
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<DigitalKiwi> veleiro: i don't think bitwarden is comparable to those at all i think they solve entirely different problems
* DigitalKiwi finally looked at the link lol
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #99978 → envchain: init at 1.0.1 → https://git.io/JUhe8
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #104948 → selenium-server-standalone: 3.6.0 -> 3.141.59 → https://git.io/JkSY4
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<DigitalKiwi> i have every device possible and bitwarden has clients for all of them and i don't need the features that they charge $10 a year for but i gladly do (i used to have 1password which was a lot more expensive and like bitwarden better) keepassxc was a pain to use on everything tons of ad-hoc dropb box and syncthing with different clients and i just never liked the UI but i did use it for a long time
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<DigitalKiwi> i swear bitwarden and signal should pay me for how much i shill for them :|
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<veleiro> i just remember my passwords so far, havent felt the need for a manager
<gthm> I use 1password because it comes with nice apps and guis I can convince my wife to use
<DigitalKiwi> i have hundreds of passwords
<DigitalKiwi> and i don't like typing lol
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<DigitalKiwi> not 10 minutes ago i was pondering making a joke like "i'm tired of typing my gpg key passphrase" (and i use keypass and a long timeout...so i don't even type it that often ) "should i remove the password or buy a yubikey?"
<DigitalKiwi> :o i could store it in bitwarden
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #104984 → helmsman: 3.5.1 -> 3.6.2 → https://git.io/JkSFX
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<DigitalKiwi> gthm: have you seen bitwardens apps
<DigitalKiwi> i liked them better than 1passwords but it's been a while since i used 1password and a lot cheaper :D
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<gthm> DigitalKiwi: no, but I'll have a look. thanks for the tip
<DigitalKiwi> https://simplelogin.io/ :o i've been thinking about making something like this for a long time >.>
<V> DigitalKiwi: -chat is a better place for stuff like this
<DigitalKiwi> :(
<gthm> I'm trying to run jupyter inside a niv environment. It worked a few minutes ago, then I added pandas, and now launching jupyter fails with "[...] Argument list too long"
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zimbatm closed pull request #104784 → awscli: 1.18.150 -> 1.18.184 → https://git.io/Jk16v
<gthm> does anyone have an idea what's going on?
<gthm> the whole error is "/nix/store/pcgz4g8dllm2gmg3b7l33sppq6v98k3f-python3.8-notebook-6.0.3/bin/jupyter-notebook: line 4: /nix/store/pcgz4g8dllm2gmg3b7l33sppq6v98k3f-python3.8-notebook-6.0.3/bin/.jupyter-notebook-wrapped: Argument list too long"
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<bbigras> Am I the only one getting "not found" while trying to access the forum? https://discourse.nixos.org/
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<gthm> hmm... if I add some newlines to the giant argument list it's operating on it works
<gthm> maybe it's bugfiling time
<raghavsood> You'll probably need to pass arguments via an environment or config file if you end up exceeding the shell limits
<gthm> the problem is in the .jupyter-notebook-wrapped script, which is out of my control
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<raghavsood> Probably deserves an issue then
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jappeace closed pull request #98944 → emacs packages: 2020-09-27 → https://git.io/JUKh7
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<peterhoeg> @digitalkiwi: there is also anonaddy.com which does unlimited aliases (not affiliated, just a recent convert)
<peterhoeg> DigitalKiwi: there is also anonaddy.com which does unlimited aliases (not affiliated, just a recent convert)
<peterhoeg> And I forgot to add - extremely competitively priced.
<mizukota[m]> "argument list is too long". Nixos-specific issue because of all those long names put together in one command
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<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas pushed to improve-readme « add some space »: https://git.io/Jk9Ze
<DigitalKiwi> peterhoeg: i was going to just set up postfix but i hate email servers after admining them so long
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<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @garbas pushed to improve-readme « Put all badges in one line »: https://git.io/Jk9Zj
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #105003 → libcec: 4.0.7 -> 6.0.2 → https://git.io/Jk9cL
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @wiltaylor opened pull request #105004 → Migrated QT doc section to commonmark → https://git.io/Jk9c1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mudrii closed pull request #104992 → Pulumi 2.10.2 > 2.14.0 → https://git.io/Jk9fT
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<Reventlov> hey there
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<Reventlov> I'm using sway with xwayland and chromium, and I observe "slow motion" when I'm using chromium in fullscreen (tabbed mode, sway)
<Reventlov> so I tried enabling hardware acceleration to check if this was related, but this is what I get: https://0x0.st/iRY9.txt
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<mizukota[m]> maybe try Xorg? I also have lags and troubles with Xwayland in wayland
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar merged pull request #104553 → pipewire: 0.3.15 -> 0.3.16 → https://git.io/Jkwav
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ymarkus opened pull request #105006 → postfix: fix "cant find <mysql.h>" when building with "withMySQL = true" → https://git.io/Jk9lL
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @wayofthepie opened pull request #105007 → doc: convert beam docs to commonmark (see #104962) → https://git.io/Jk9lB
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mudrii opened pull request #105008 → maintainers: add mudrii → https://git.io/Jk9lD
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<octe> i'm a bit confused about nativeBuildInputs vs buildInputs, even after reading the documentation.. buildInputs is for things that are also required at runtime, otherwise it goes into nativeBuildInputs?
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<mizukota[m]> thing about cross-compilation. When you build something for windows, you use pkg-config for linux to discover dependencies for windows. So pkg-config is nativeBuildInput. NativeBuildInputs are needed only for build-time and for native architecture you run nix from. All cross-compilers for example should go to nativeBuildInputs. Cmake shoud also go there
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @woffs opened pull request #105009 → shotcut: 20.10.31 -> 20.11.25 → https://git.io/Jk94t
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<mizukota[m]> i wish for calibre to update to 5.x...
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mudrii opened pull request #105010 → pulumi: 2.10.2 -> 2.14.0 → https://git.io/Jk94a
<mizukota[m]> and also, a task for those who think they can do everything in nix - gnome games ( https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Games )
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<lukegb> mizukota[m]: in which sense
<lukegb> As a packaging challenge or as a challenge to reimplement a GUI application in nix :p
<mizukota[m]> its very hard thing to package, it uses gnome services
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mudrii closed pull request #104976 → maintainers: add mudrii → https://git.io/JkS1i
<daende> i am searching for a way to add a custom patch to my chromium browser. but i don't get it, has anybody a clue for me? :3
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #105011 → light: 1.2.1 -> 1.2.2 → https://git.io/Jk9BC
<mizukota[m]> @daende are you sure you need a patch? Do you have 100GB of disk space and at least 16 gigs of RAM to compile the chromium?
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<daende> yes i am sure and prepared :)
<mizukota[m]> I call it "semi-open-source", when it looks like opensource but only 1/1000000000 of people can build it because of those hardware requirements...
<mizukota[m]> ...as an example.
<thibm> daende: did you look at chromium derivations? Do you know in which derivation the patch should go?
<Abdullah> my first screencast using nixos ;-) https://youtu.be/N19gUeZHoCo
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<mizukota[m]> https://nixos.org/manual/nixpkgs/stable/#ssec-patch-phase here's patch section of nixpkgs manual
<daende> @thibm: i think so. the hard part is to get the patched and wrapped chromium :-/
<thibm> Yes I know, that's why I asked which derivation you need to patch
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<thibm> mizukota[m]: it's a bit harder when you have things like `let x = callPackage …; in mkDerivation { … }` and you want to patch x
<daende> the patches are in common.nix, so i need to get grip on mkChromiumDerivation, am i right?
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<thibm> daende: just a question, do you want to apply to patch and follow updates or is this a one shot try?
<DigitalKiwi> mizukota[m]: it's not a real google project if you don't need a fiber connection and google data center to download and store it, now is it?
<daende> at the moment its a one shot, but if it works, well, than this is going to stay
<thibm> And at google they don't compile on their work machine and they never compile twice the same files. So they don't really bother about the 100G/16G and compile time
<thibm> daende: I would say to copy/paste the derivation and just insert your patch at the right place before bothering with overriding. You'll see if it works
<thibm> (If it does, you won't need to compile again with the more elegant solution anyway)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @tbenst opened pull request #105013 → virtualgl: 2.6.2 -> 2.6.5 → https://git.io/Jk90S
<thibm> I'm not sure if it's possible to override the common.nix because of how default.nix is written, honestly
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #105014 → lokalise2-cli: 2.6.1 -> 2.6.2 → https://git.io/Jk90d
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<daende> there is a nix-cache here, a clean solution would be best ;)
<thibm> Sure, a clean solution is best. That depends on your goal ;)
<thibm> A intermediate solution is to change the nixpkgs files to be able to insert a patch deep in common.nix
<daende> thibm: there must be another way :( guess i have to copy&paste until i find it, or someone points it out
<thibm> They are several ways to do it. Then upstream your change to nixpkgs and you keep updated
<thibm> daende: honestly I'm not sure. But maybe wait for someone else advice
<daende> its such a special usecase, lets see if the chromium devs bother to fix my problem if i can verify the bug.
<daende> until then, a clean fix for me would be great :3
<daende> thibm: thanks for your input :)
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<thibm> You're welcome. The let…in is a really bad pattern. You can take a look at pkgs/applications/science/electronics/kicad/default.nix to see a way to workaround, if you're interested
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<daende> i'll have look.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #104990 → igraph: 0.8.3 -> 0.8.4 → https://git.io/Jk9e5
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #105015 → mackerel-agent: 0.70.2 -> 0.70.3 → https://git.io/Jk9uW
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<pinpox> Hey, I was asking about bitwarden_rs earlier. Maybe someone can help: Would it be possible to overwrite this line to point to a "fixed" path on my system like "/secrets/bitwarden_envfile" instead of using the generated config?
<pinpox> Do I need to create a completly new package for that?
<pinpox> I'd like to just write the env file myself and put it manually somewhere
<raghavsood> Which line?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mweinelt opened pull request #105017 → zsh-powerlevel10k: 1.13.0 -> 1.14.3 → https://git.io/Jk9zn
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<pinpox> I'd like it to change from "EnvironmentFile = configFile;" to "EnvironmentFile = /secrets/bitwardens_env";"
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<thibm> pinpox: there's a new environmentFile option
<pinpox> thibm: huh? where
<thibm> commit 76362dd
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #105019 → matcha-gtk-theme: 2020-11-11-0 -> 2020-11-23 → https://git.io/Jk9zF
<pinpox> thibm: So when using unstable i should be able to use it?
<thibm> yes
<pinpox> I'm guessing it takes a path.
<thibm> But I guess you could override systemd.services.bitwarden_rs.serviceConfig.EnvironmentFile otherwise
<pinpox> Ohhhh, I was looking up options for 20.03, not unstable...
<pinpox> silly me.
<pinpox> Well thanks thibm, that's actually perfect and makes my life easier
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @wiltaylor opened pull request #105021 → Doc: Converted Bower docs from xml to md → https://git.io/Jk9aJ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak merged pull request #104986 → hidapi: 0.10.0 -> 0.10.1 → https://git.io/JkSNl
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak opened pull request #105023 → python3Packages.hidapi: 0.10.0 -> 0.10.1 → https://git.io/Jk9VW
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl merged pull request #105016 → ocamlPackages.mirage-protocols: 4.0.1 -> 5.0.0 → https://git.io/Jk9zs
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #105011 → light: 1.2.1 -> 1.2.2 → https://git.io/Jk9BC
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #105012 → lightburn: 0.9.18 -> 0.9.19 → https://git.io/Jk9R3
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #104995 → ipscan: 3.7.1 -> 3.7.3 → https://git.io/Jk9UO
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<ar> huh
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #104950 → tor-browser-bundle-bin: 10.0.4 → 10.0.5 → https://git.io/JkS38
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @stigtsp merged pull request #104975 → perlPackages.ParallelPipes: init at 0.005 → https://git.io/JkSP5
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<rogerr> on nixos i add home.packages pkgs.cargo and pkgs.rustc. when i try to run nvim foo.rs it starts with error that rust-src not available. so i search https://search.nixos.org/packages?channel=20.09&show=rustup&from=0&size=30&sort=relevance&query=rust+src nothing found what i do pls?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed commit from @chkno to release-20.09 « tor-browser-bundle-bin: 10.0.4 → 10.0.5 »: https://git.io/Jk9ro
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @thefloweringash opened pull request #105026 → Native support for Apple Silicon → https://git.io/Jk9rx
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @stigtsp merged pull request #104974 → perlPackages.CommandRunner: init at 0.103 → https://git.io/JkSiC
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @stigtsp pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jk9ol
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #105027 → mkcert: 1.4.2 -> 1.4.3 → https://git.io/Jk9o0
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<{^_^}> [nixos-hardware] @sevenfourk opened pull request #214 → apple/macbook-pro/12-1: PM: unload brcmfmac with powerDownCommands → https://git.io/Jk9Kn
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #104934 → blender: 2.90.1 -> 2.91.0 → https://git.io/JkyAW
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<supersandro2000> How can I pass an optional input to nix-build? --argstr does not want to work
<rogerr> why doesn't home manager env get into my $PATH when i rdp in but does when i ssh in? my rdp startwm.sh https://termbin.com/i1gq and .xprofile https://termbin.com/mcxp what is break pls?
<supersandro2000> Currently I have nix-build -A postfix --argstr withMySQL true
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<thibm> supersandro2000: use --arg, not --argstr for boolean
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<thibm> it works on a toy default.nix with an optional argument
<supersandro2000> nope. does not rebuild postfix
<thibm> How's the code? A regulard { ..., opt ? xxx } : stdenv.mkDerivation { ... } ?
<thibm> Ah, I see how you invoked it.
<thibm> What's the regular argument you try to override?
<thibm> You fire nix-build in a nixpkgs root, right?
<thibm> s/regular//
<supersandro2000> yes
<supersandro2000> I want to test this with mysql enabled
<thibm> I thought the --arg stuff was only for the "toplevel" evaluated function, but I can be wrong
<thibm> It would be a bit magic otherwise
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<thibm> For what you try to do, I usually do: nix-build -E 'with import ./.; postfix.override { withMySQL = true; }
<supersandro2000> I liek magic
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<supersandro2000> if that works I put it into müschtos
<supersandro2000> *nüschtos
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<thibm> What's that?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #105029 → mlkit: 4.5.1 -> 4.5.2 → https://git.io/Jk9ix
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #105014 → lokalise2-cli: 2.6.1 -> 2.6.2 → https://git.io/Jk90d
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<supersandro2000> thibm: basically I try to make yet another go to cheat sheet https://xn--nschtos-n2a.de/
<supersandro2000> but it is supposed to be like: I know what I am searching for but I forgot the exact syntax how to do it
<supersandro2000> or like: I am a maintainer and I search for fancy stuff to solve my more complex problem
<thibm> OK
<thibm> Yup, as I expected, --arg does not work
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<supersandro2000> error: value is a function while a set was expected
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<thibm> Yes, it's 'with import ./. {};', sorry
<thibm> -I nixpkgs=. 'with import <nixpkgs> {}; …' if you prefer
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<supersandro2000> now I need something that works with nixpkgs-review
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @freezeboy opened pull request #105030 → linuxPackages.akvcam: init at 1.1.1 → https://git.io/Jk9Px
<supersandro2000> Mic92: Is this possible at all?
<thibm> What does nixpkgs-review expect?
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<supersandro2000> --arg 😆
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<Mic92> supersandro2000: what?
<supersandro2000> thats not entirely true. I can give it anything that I can pass to nix
<supersandro2000> Mic92: I want nixpkgs-review to build postfix with MySQL enabled
<thibm> supersandro2000: you meant through nixpkgs' "--build-args"?
<thibm> supersandro2000: you meant through nixpkgs-review's "--build-args"? (sorry)
<supersandro2000> yeah
<Mic92> supersandro2000: you can do it from the nix-review shell itself.
<supersandro2000> true...
<supersandro2000> but it would be more fun to just pass in the argument and do some magic and it does that
<supersandro2000> I mean I could do a PR for that...
<Mic92> supersandro2000: not sure if this within the scope of nixpkgs-review
<supersandro2000> true
<Mic92> supersandro2000: you can script something yourself: https://github.com/Mic92/nixpkgs-review#using-nix-review-in-scripts
<Mic92> ok. maybe not
<Mic92> Maybe build-args could used for this? https://github.com/Mic92/nixpkgs-review#remote-builder
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<Mic92> but you can also just use nix-build -I nixpkgs=https://url/to/nixpkgsfork.tar.gz -E
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<mizukota[m]> can somebody PR that https://hastebin.com/evanesuzus.properties ?
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<adisbladis> mizukota[m]: Why don't you PR it yourself?
<mizukota[m]> I do not have github account, and i'm lazy. Does that matter?
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<adisbladis> mizukota[m]: You're not just asking someone to make a PR. You're asking them to go through an entire review cycle.
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<mizukota[m]> yes. For 45 lines of code, with 5-8 modifications from old version of same package
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<adisbladis> Like most contributions, they still need to go through review, and someone needs to own that process.
<adisbladis> I think it's not in good form to ask other people to proxy contributions because you are lazy.
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<mizukota[m]> I do help people with their code, for free, without calculating my power consumption and resource usage, and I expect the same. The chat isn't just you, and maybe somebody even needs fresh zig compiler with version 0.7.0. I only ask to PR, i'm not forcing it, so please don't tell me to stop beleiving in people, throw away my code and not to ask anything because it's not easy
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<averell> i wish there was a work queue for stuff like that to shovel diffs into. but i doubt there's many people enjoying that part.
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<red[evilred]> what adisbladis (IRC) said. If people are willing to learn we're more than happy to assist.
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<red[evilred]> oof
<V> matrix is so weird
<V> seeing someone join and then reply to something said before they entered is... interesting
<red[evilred]> I think the problem there is "I expect the same"
<red[evilred]> it certainly can be
<lukegb> V: it's super disconcerting, hah
<red[evilred]> V (IRC): also when you type something and it shows in your channel version - before you even join the channel in irc for real
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<V> mizukota[m]: also there's a difference between tossing a random paste into a chat and expecting someone to carry it to the finish line (without even explaining what it does; no diff or anything)
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<V> uh
<V> some words in that should be removed
<pinpox> Could anyone help me out? I ran into ACMS's rate-limiting due to too many failed attempts at authenticating. I'm trying this config, is something wrong with it? https://gist.github.com/pinpox/dc9c70776c6f4a5b1e5d8f8a7e434da9
<pinpox> Just two nginx vhosts, one serving a static page, the second one being a reverse proxy for ssl for a bitwarden_rs instance
<mizukota[m]> V it's 45 lines-of-code Nix derivation with package name "zig". And it's finished, I use it in my daily things.
<V> mizukota[m]: yes, but what's the change. is that all new? if so, why are you adding some random other person as maintainer?
<mizukota[m]> new major version.
<V> hence a diff would be good
<etu> A diff would also tell which file it should be placed in
<etu> Without having to look around
<mizukota[m]> well somebody complained before about shoveling in diffs, ok I can make diff
<V> and a patch would provide authorship + a commit message, so then it really is just a matter of adding a PR
<etu> Even better :)
<red[evilred]> mizukota[m] (IRC): are you on the ziglang discord?
<mizukota[m]> red[evilred] no
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<red[evilred]> okay - did you email the current zig maintainer?
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<mizukota[m]> https://hastebin.com/iqavaqezaw.diff here is the diff, i dont think it's more readable than just derivation
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<red[evilred]> I can't reach that site do to limitations on this work machine
<red[evilred]> due to
<red[evilred]> wow, my grammar today.
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<thibm> mizukota[m]: well, first of all, diff show that you disabled check phase. Why?
<mizukota[m]> because I have no idea how it works, how it should work and how to check that check phase works. Instead I've used the power of manual checking that thing works.
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<red[evilred]> The problem with manual checking is:
<thibm> mizukota[m]: so imagine someone created a PR to you
<thibm> the someone asked him/her this question
<thibm> how can this someone answer it? You see the problem?
<thibm> (And your answer is not valid IMHO)
<mizukota[m]> yeah, sorry i'll never share my code again
<red[evilred]> 1. reproducabilty.
<red[evilred]> It's not a case of not sharing
<red[evilred]> it's a case of ...
<red[evilred]> Okay - got it.
<averell> the world will mourn the loss. we have a bot to bump numbers in version strings.
<thibm> … that's not what I said.
<thibm> I just exposed one of the problem of your approach.
<red[evilred]> When you're working on a Linux Distro - we literally have tens of thousands of packages
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<red[evilred]> If you've done the work to solve a problem - we appreciate that - we really do
<red[evilred]> but in order to use it, you have to help us get it into the state it can be injected
<red[evilred]> otherwise we can't keep up with the demand
<red[evilred]> our PR queue is current 2,400ish
<red[evilred]> if you can understand our issue
<red[evilred]> btw - can you email me the diff since I can't see it?
<red[evilred]> I like ziglang so may go in that direction at some point
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<red[evilred]> (I maintain ponyc and corral because I use both those languages)
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<mizukota[m]> i wrote package definition, i even made a patch. To reproduce a package you can use nix-shell. Do I need to apologize for each line i changed or to ask more nicely, to beg for my patch to be added? Maybe I have some psychological problems but I cant do that or do not want that enough.
<V> Ah.
<V> that makes sense
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<thibm> mizukota[m]: again, the problem is not on the work you've done.
<adisbladis> mizukota[m]: All you need to do is to go through the same contribution pipeline as everyone else.
<thibm> mizukota[m]: you are basically asking people here to do extra work because you're lazy.
<thibm> And worrying why it's not acceptable.
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<red[evilred]> and mizukota[m] (IRC) - I'm happy to walk you through the process
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<red[evilred]> Hell, I spent 45 minutes in a zoom call with someone the other day teaching them how to build their first package definition and submit a PR
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<red[evilred]> We'll welcome anyone who is a positive contributor to our community
<red[evilred]> (ziglang is the same too)
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<thibm> The first time can be more or less difficult whether your know well nix, git, github. You can ask for help.
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<mizukota[m]> Even if I'd send PR, i'm still not able to stand infinite PR rejects and attacks of "hey, whats here? Why did you change that? Your indentation is not appropriate! Merge those 3 commit into 1 commit" red[evilred] Did you teach your student how to bypass that?
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<red[evilred]> No, because I get the exact same thing.
<red[evilred]> and they're not attacks - they're people helping you get to a better product
<red[evilred]> we all get that feedback, every single one of us - and that's okay
<red[evilred]> and yes - it can get frustrating
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<red[evilred]> because sometimes I'll look at feedback and be like "Does that *really* matter?"
<red[evilred]> and the answer to that is - yeah, it kinda does when you realize that your package is one of tens of thousands
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<thibm> mizukota[m]: feedback also helps you to improve your knowledge/skills
<red[evilred]> we have to be that strict in order to try and keep entropy down
<thibm> (Like how does the check phase work)
<etu> mizukota[m]: The feedback process is meant to be done in a positive way for both parties to learn and improve. It's both about learning to give good feedback, but also to recieve feedback. Both are skills that is good to work on.
<red[evilred]> but I really do understand why it would feel that way
<red[evilred]> I felt that at the start
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<red[evilred]> and it took me a little while to not get frustrated with it.
<V> yeah, none of this is personal; sorry if it feels like that
<thibm> And, again, you're asking someone here to deal with this feedback instead of you. But, well…
<etu> NixOS has made me better at git, when it comes to rebasing/etc to rewrite the history, partly due to feedback I've got in the past. Which lead me to do start giving people feedback on this subject as well. :)
<red[evilred]> oh - that's so true. I've had people here dig me out of more self-inflicted git holes than I care to cound
<red[evilred]> counT
<red[evilred]> I remember accidentally committig 5000 or so changes to my branch
<red[evilred]> and i'm like 'oops'
<red[evilred]> and someone here walked me through getting all that straighteend out
<red[evilred]> they invested time in me to make me better
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<etu> This is what positive feedback and learning is about.
<etu> It's not complaining.
<red[evilred]> and now - to be clear I'm not a committer, I'm not ready to be. I now see my role as being someone to help carry some of the load with people who are very new
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<red[evilred]> to help them through their first mile so the same people who helped me don't have to help cover that same first mile with people again.
<adisbladis> =)
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<red[evilred]> I want to show that their investment in me was a good investment
<red[evilred]> and I really care about this community
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<red[evilred]> and that's why I took the time to help that person, and why I'm willing to take time to help you.
<mizukota[m]> isn't that easy to fix by re-cloning repo in separate directory, checkouting your work at commit you want, copying needed files to separate directory with re-cloned repo and committing it again?
<noonien> hello folks
<red[evilred]> No, because I applied it to a PR
<Abdullah> hello noonien
<red[evilred]> so I had the fix my remote branch
<noonien> i'm trying to package koka for nixpkgs, however, it requires `stack`, which appears need to use a network connections. is there a way to package such packages?
<red[evilred]> (and honestly, at the time - I was still asking help as to how to make branches)
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<noonien> i see there's stackage2nix, but it doesn't seem to work with 20.03
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<etu> mizukota[m]: And if you don't know how to do it the "right way" you would have to open a new PR... That's really not the right way if there's already a PR where the feedback process has started.
<red[evilred]> noonien (IRC): we tend to patch their build processes to remove the network dependency
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<noonien> yes, i've done with other languages. but i'm not familiar with haskell/stack
<red[evilred]> nor I :-(
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<mizukota[m]> @etu "feedback process" is act of PR rejection, so does it matter if i'll send another PR with same functionality, maybe even closer to not being rejected?
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<etu> mizukota[m]: It's very rare that I see rejected PR's in nixpkgs.
<red[evilred]> I think this may be the disconnect.
<etu> mizukota[m]: Requested changes is not rejected.
<etu> mizukota[m]: Explaining of things is not rejected.
<red[evilred]> mizukota[m] (IRC): it's people helping you get things in a better state so that the end product for everyone is better.
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<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra merged pull request #4094 → preallocateContents option: disable by default → https://git.io/JUMR8
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<thibm> mizukota[m]: ^ see, a PR for which you apparently helped get merged :)
<red[evilred]> please try to think of review as someone taking time to help you work on your submission - not some kind of battle :-/
<mizukota[m]> etu requested changes does not guarantee that human who created PR will do those changes, so technically PR is rejected untill those changes appear or untill timeout that can last for years
<dutchie> this has reminded me that i have a wip branch to update zig but the builds were failing :(
<dutchie> maybe i should open a draft pr for it
<etu> mizukota[m]: In my $dayjob we work with feedback on a regular basis among peers. Where everyone are encouraged to participate to give and get feedback within your team following a pattern of "Things to keep doing, Things to become better at, Things to stop doing". This is to help everyone improve.
<etu> mizukota[m]: I see these PR process the same way.
<red[evilred]> exactly etu (IRC) - we can't improve without external feedback
<red[evilred]> "This is the way"™
<etu> mizukota[m]: Well, that's why it's important that the person opening the PR actually cares about it and do the work.
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<red[evilred]> I've been "NixOS community adjacent" for many many years - but only really got involved in the last three or so.
<red[evilred]> and yes, I found my first three or four PRs incredibly frustrating
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<mizukota[m]> etu on your $dayjob shouldn't money be your courage to handle this "feedback"? I cant accept what you call "feedback" or "criticism" to be something that helps people or software to get better, because i see that "feedback" as a big stream of negative energy towards a human
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<supersandro2000> red[evilred]: I am living in a nix hotspot.
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<red[evilred]> supersandro2000 (IRC): you are a nix hotspot ;-)
<supersandro2000> I still don't buy half of the claims of nix and mostly use it as a better brew alternative
<V> supersandro2000: which ones, out of curiosity?
<red[evilred]> someone revoke the unbeliever's commit access!
<red[evilred]> <3
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<red[evilred]> mizukota[m] (IRC): do you feel the same way about feedback in other aspects of your life?
<mizukota[m]> i liked nixos because it's the only distro i could build iso for, with kernel loadable driver for my wifi
<red[evilred]> I'm really glad it's helped you
<mizukota[m]> red[evilred] yes
<etu> mizukota[m]: No, I did dread the feedback sessions before we started with them. But they aren't negative. They focus on the good things but they are there to be honest and to help you. I want to be better, if people can help me to point out how to be that, why would I not want to know that?
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<red[evilred]> Thank you for your honesty there mizukota[m] (IRC) - that took a lot I'm sure.
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<mizukota[m]> @etu can you show an example of PR rejected with focus on good things and maybe even some motivation to do those "required changes"?
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<red[evilred]> I'm guessing then that you probably work in a somewhat hostile environment, in a place where you have to watch your back?
<mizukota[m]> yeah, i live on Earth
<etu> mizukota[m]: Sure, I've been (using your words) "rejecting" this PR all day long: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/104159
<{^_^}> #104159 (by shyim, 1 week ago, open): php80: init at 8.0.0
<thibm> mizukota[m]: do you know that the PR "content" can be updated?
<etu> mizukota[m]: Btw, it's almost ready to be merged.
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<thibm> mizukota[m]: so there's usually no reaason to reject them. They are merged when the quality is good, maybe after some updates according to feedback
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<thibm> I mena, there's no reason to worry about being rejected
<red[evilred]> mizukota[m] (IRC): That's not my experience on Earth at all
<red[evilred]> not everyone's life is like that
<red[evilred]> so I think that may be why we see things differently to you
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<red[evilred]> I work with people who go out of their way to help each other
<red[evilred]> we go out of our way to share credit.
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<red[evilred]> we go out of our way to take time to care for each other.
<red[evilred]> if someone is stacked with work, we take some of their work for them
<red[evilred]> and don't go looking for credit for it
<red[evilred]> I wish that same environment for you
<red[evilred]> somehow
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<gchristensen> the few people banned from the nixpkgs github tracker were banned because they were jerks
<mizukota[m]> red[evilred] probably we live in different space dimensions of Earth
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<red[evilred]> sounds like - and I think you probably think most people live in yours and I believe most people live in mine. That's completely normal.
<red[evilred]> Tell you what mizukota[m] (IRC) - if you email me your patch I'll go ahead and run the PR for you.
<mizukota[m]> thibm imagine that you spent a week inventing a solution no other people could invent, and you did it and you glad you did. You share it with people for sake of humanity progress, and then your PR is rejected and you need to change that and this to make your code fit to the taste of reviewer to kindly accept your code. This is how I see those PRs, reviews...
<mizukota[m]> Also those processes turn contribution into a continious process, but I can dissappear or forget my password tomorrow or face another busfactor
<red[evilred]> It's a package I want uptodate
<red[evilred]> but I mean this in the most loving way possible - I don't think I, or anyone else here can convince you that we really mean to help in PRs if your life experience of criticism has been so painful for you.
<mizukota[m]> red[evilred] I don't know your email, but more importantly I do not have email account xD Thaats hard to explain
<red[evilred]> Okay - can you paste it to me in a msg
<red[evilred]> (I'll reformat it)
<thibm> mizukota[m]: I understood your point. The reviers are not to "fit the taste of reviewers" but to improve the project quality
<red[evilred]> also - didn't I see someone earlier say that they'd been working on a PR for it but had issues getting it to compile?
<mizukota[m]> thibm what is the difference?
<thibm> mizukota[m]: for the bus factor, I'd say a PR is better than a message on IRC to a random pastebin that may delete the file at any moment
<thibm> mizukota[m]: you're trying to participate in a open source project. The project would just collapse if anything is accepted without review.
<thibm> And, again, PR are not rejected.
<etu> PR's can be rejected, but it's super rare, they can be forgotten, not worked on, work in progress, etc before they become accepted and merged.
<simpson> mizukota[m]: The problem might be with the idea of "inventing a solution no other people could invent". Rarely are people like that; instead, invention is usually *contextual*. IOW you bumped Zig because you wanted Zig bumped, not because you were uniquely in a position to bump Zig.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mvnetbiz opened pull request #105039 → python3Packages.zigpy-zigate: propagate build inputs → https://git.io/JkHtY
<V> for reference, I had a PR https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/97081 merged earlier today after having been mostly untouched for 2 months
<{^_^}> #97081 (by deviant, 11 weeks ago, merged): icon-lang: 9.5.1 -> 9.5.20i
<dutchie> red[evilred]: yeah, i have https://github.com/jshholland/nixpkgs/tree/update-zig
<dutchie> not actually opened a pr for it yet because the tests don't pass
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<red[evilred]> dutchie (IRC): does any of the work that mizukota[m] (IRC) has done help with that?
<supersandro2000> V: it isn't fully reproducable and declaritive
<supersandro2000> at least I can take most of my config now between 5 machines or so
<dutchie> it looks mostly the same except they have doCheck = false
<red[evilred]> Gotcha
<dutchie> and they set llvmPackages_11 in the zig file rather than in all-packages.nix
<simpson> dutchie++ mizukota[m]++
<{^_^}> dutchie's karma got increased to 6
<{^_^}> mizukota[m]'s karma got increased to 2
<red[evilred]> dutchie (IRC): do we know which test specifically is failing?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mweinelt merged pull request #105039 → python3Packages.zigpy-zigate: propagate build inputs → https://git.io/JkHtY
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<red[evilred]> I'm probably telling you things you already know, but things like network tests will almost always fail in sandbox
<dutchie> not off the top of my head, i'm at work for the next couple of hours so can't look in detail
<red[evilred]> so I have to comment them out in the ponyc test suite for example
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<mizukota[m]> simpson bumping version is not creative, but somehow it could become a source of huge amount of questions and conversations, with some creative thing i fear I wont be able to explain everything at all. For example I've managed to build custom Nixos iso using flakes, so you can do it in reproducible way and then use flakes from booted iso to install OS with minimal download
<dutchie> iirc it was some permission error, my guess is that it's trying to touch something outside the sandbox
<dutchie> i was going to start commenting out tests to figure out which one but i didn't get to it yet
<red[evilred]> lemme take a look at it
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ajs124 opened pull request #105040 → php: 7.3.24 -> 7.3.25, 7.4.12 -> 7.4.13 → https://git.io/JkHq4
<red[evilred]> see if I can help y'all
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<red[evilred]> my zig-fu isn't great - but I'll take a peek
<dutchie> yeah, you can see i made a commit to have all the tests listed separately
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<dutchie> was planning to do some squashing afterwards when i got it working
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #104998 → jsonnet: 0.16.0 -> 0.17.0 → https://git.io/Jk9Lc
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<simpson> mizukota[m]: Fun! I've got lots of private experiments with nixpkgs which will never go upstream; that's just how it is.
<mizukota[m]> well they will go upstream, iso building expressions are changing to use only relative paths and eventually the official way of building nixos iso will be with use of flakes
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #105041 → onefetch: 2.7.1 -> 2.7.3 → https://git.io/JkHqh
<mizukota[m]> probably we will reach the ability to do offline install once upon a time
<red[evilred]> andrew kelley did the initial commit
<V> that was my assumption given he was the sole maintainer
<red[evilred]> so the inventor of the language speaks nix - so you have the best resource available if you get stuck
<V> I'm not sure whether he uses it actively
<mizukota[m]> i'm sure
<dutchie> he's still the maintainer, and he uses nixos as his main distro i believe
<mizukota[m]> he has nixos with xfce
<V> he's not in here, and hasn't touched nixpkgs since late 2018
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #105033 → execline: cleanup dependencies → https://git.io/Jk9jM
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<mizukota[m]> Well there wasn't any major zig version change since 2018
<red[evilred]> ... and andrew is very active on the ziglang discord
<V> I do see him on IRC in other channels though
<dutchie> mostly #zig ;)
<V> and musl
<red[evilred]> mizukota[m] (IRC): 0.7.0 19 days ago. 0.6.0 Apr 13th, 0.5.0 2019 ...
<red[evilred]> musl makes sense given his focus on minimalization
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<dutchie> a lot of the zig std library code is translated from musl
<red[evilred]> dutchie (IRC): - can you open it as a WIP PR please?
<dutchie> yeah, will do after work
<red[evilred]> that will then let people know that people are working on it
<red[evilred]> cool - thanks
<red[evilred]> and don't stress the squash - that can wait until all the tomfoolery is complete :_)
<mizukota[m]> dutchie also you get a lot of different libc for many platforms with zig compiler
<red[evilred]> I wonder how zig integrates with the cross-compiling environments in nix (or maybe it doesn't)
<mizukota[m]> it does
<mizukota[m]> zig build can use pkg-config, and pkg-config works with cross-compilation in nix
<red[evilred]> Yay! that's awesome
<mizukota[m]> yes, and no black magic with "rustup toolchain download needed-platform" downloading binaries from external servers
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<mizukota[m]> i've tried to make a rust package with cross-compiler for mingw, and i failed
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<lukegb> etu: I've been trying to go through the list of open PRs that haven't been marked as stale (as a way of judging whether they've been forgotten about) and just giving them a review in an effort to tackle the backlog from "the other end"
<red[evilred]> honestly - apart from my security PRs, I've mainly been procrastinating working on the bacula/bareos nmodules
<red[evilred]> since they are currently both broken
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Infinisil opened pull request #105042 → release-lib: Don't use tryEval for packagePlatforms → https://git.io/JkH3G
<red[evilred]> I don't know how many other maintainers have tape robots at home to work on it... so I should probably do something about it.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #104883 → openjdk: Merge passthrus → https://git.io/JkDaT
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JkH3D
<mizukota[m]> what is the best playable Doom clone available in nixpkgs?
<lassulus> gzdoom or zandronum
<lassulus> imho
<mizukota[m]> good! Thank you.
<lunik1> des PrBoom count?
<mizukota[m]> why not
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<lunik1> you need an additional data rom to make it work
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #104593 → ghostscript: fix broken rpath on Darwin → https://git.io/Jkrob
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JkHGn
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<lassulus> thats the case with every doom port
<daende> thibm: got it working the way you suggested, thanks again!
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<thibm> daende: hum, what was the way again? Copy/paste?
<nly> openbazaar installed with nix has got messed up fonts, is it me?
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<daende> yes indeed, verified the bug, now on to the chrome devs :>
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @freezeboy closed pull request #104448 → qt5: 5.15.0 -> 5.15.2 → https://git.io/Jk2Q4
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl pushed commit from @sternenseemann to master « ocamlPackages.ocaml-migrate-parsetree: 1.7.3 -> 1.8.0 »: https://git.io/JkHnJ
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<thibm> daende: OK. I guess you were compiling for 4 hours? x)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @RaghavSood merged pull request #105032 → turbo-geth: 2020.11.03 -> 2020.11.04 → https://git.io/Jk9hN
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @RaghavSood pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JkHnG
<lunik1> I would differentiate between a doom clone which just copies the gameplay and a doom port/emulator which recreates the engine and uses doom assets
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<mizukota[m]> freedm has it's own assets and level design, but it's not on nixpkgs
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gnidorah closed pull request #104396 → [WIP] ctrlr: init at 5.3.201 → https://git.io/Jk2fB
<daende> thibm i didn't time it, but this sound awfull reasonable :3
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<thibm> Awful. That moment when checkPhase fails after a long compilation… (They must be a simple way to decouple build/check in two derivations to avoid that)
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<redcedar[m]> hi folks, quick question: what might be happening in the case where I add a package to my configuration, rebuild successfully, but the package never shows up (its not in /nix/store)?
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<drozdziak1> I'm trying to write a shell.nix for a local rustc repo. I'm starting a shell with `nix-shell '<nixpkgs>' -A rustc`. I get a message about `ninja` missing, how do I turn that command into a `shell.nix` where I override to include `ninja`?
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<drozdziak1> (the missing `ninja` message comes from the rustc build, not Nix)
<V> redcedar[m]: how did you add it to your configuration, and how did you verify it's not in /nix/store?
<V> (did you make sure that you saved the file, etc)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @freezeboy opened pull request #105044 → gitAndTools.glab: init at 1.11.1 → https://git.io/JkHWj
<V> (if you're using sudoedit then it won't sync until you close your editor)
<mizukota[m]> redcedar it happens when you add package to file that is not used with nixos-rebuild. For example when you have both configuration.nix and flake.nix, you change flake.nix, but nix choses to use configuration.nix
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #105041 → onefetch: 2.7.1 -> 2.7.3 → https://git.io/JkHqh
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JkHlB
<redcedar[m]> V: thanks for responding! in this case its an emacs package, which I manage in a separate file. I know my system is reading it because if I make an error in it, nixos-rebuild switch complains. I used `ls /nix/store | grep emacs` to review all the installed emacs packages. I also confirmed its not the kind of package that gets added to /run/current-system/sw/share/emacs.
<redcedar[m]> <mizukota[m] "redcedar it happens when you add"> thanks for responding! in this case I know my system is reading my emacs configuration because if I make an error in it, nixos-rebuild switch complains
<V> redcedar[m]: so you're doing this via emacsWithPackages? and that customised emacs is either in your systemPackages or user.packages?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #105045 → page: 2.3.4 -> 2.3.5 → https://git.io/JkH8L
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<redcedar[m]> <V "redcedar: so you're doing this v"> Yes, I use emacsWithPackages in systemPackages
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<V> redcedar[m]: I believe you might only see emacs-with-packages and emacs-packages-deps
<V> I'm not familiar with the emacs support myself
<redcedar[m]> <redcedar[m] "Yes, I use emacsWithPackages in "> I add and remove packages from this expression all the time; this is the first time adding a package didn't seem to work
<V> odd
<etu> lukegb++ (for looking at backlog of prs)
<{^_^}> lukegb's karma got increased to 4
<lukegb> Is it possible that the emacs package just happens to end up without "emacs" in its name in the store but is present anyway?
<Steelwire> Hello, I'm trying to make a netboot system. I'd like to test it by building a VM, but whenever I try to start the VM, the whole system freezes. I'm running NixOS in VirtualBox, so that could also be a part of the issue.
<Steelwire> 3. cp ./result/bin/run-<hostname> .
<Steelwire> 2. nixos-rebuild build-vm -I nixos-config=<config.nix>
<Steelwire> 1. Create configuration -> https://pastebin.com/HT6xG1TE
<Steelwire> Steps:
<Steelwire> 5. ./run-<hostname>
<Steelwire> 4. edit file so the amount of allocated memory is 1024 MB and 2 procs are allocated (384MB of memory and 1 processor is not enough)
<Steelwire> 6. System hangs (seemingly forever)
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<raghavsood> I'm being told to check `/build/source/build/install_g3log.log` during a nix-build, any idea how I can actually read it?
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<{^_^}> [nix] @regnat closed pull request #3776 → Allow depending on content-addressed derivations → https://git.io/JJU2p
<{^_^}> [nix] @regnat closed pull request #4139 → Always keep the CA derivations around → https://git.io/JTInw
<Steelwire> raghavsood: I think this might be of interest for you: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Nixpkgs/Create_and_debug_packages
<lukegb> Steelwire: so as I understand it, your setup is <this test VM>-inside-<NixOS on Virtualbox>-inside-<host system>?
<Steelwire> lukegb: That's indeed the case, and the system that freezes is the NixOS on VirtualBox
<lukegb> Right, so at least it's not managing to lock up the host system ;)
<lukegb> Do you have nested virtualisation turned on?
<Steelwire> Yes, that's turned on. I think I had issues earlier when that was turned off (but is some time ago again, this used to work)
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<lukegb> Hmm, so this used to work but now hangs? Hrm.
<matthewcroughan_> Mic92: You around? :p
<Mic92> matthewcroughan_: ys
<matthewcroughan_> This thread is impossible to follow, do you know what a working resultant shell is? https://discourse.nixos.org/t/build-a-yocto-rootfs-inside-nix/2643/10
<matthewcroughan_> I would kill for this, I just want to Nix my life up.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #105046 → pdfsam-basic: 4.2.0 -> 4.2.1 → https://git.io/JkHRW
<matthewcroughan_> Your latest comment makes it seem like there was a solution. But having tried everyone's shells, I can't find one that works.
<Steelwire> lukegb: Yeah, I had a NixOS 20.03 VM before where this worked. That was ~3 weeks ago or something like that. Now it doesn't work anymore in both a 20.03 and a 20.09 VM. I'd assume something broke, but I'm not sure where to start debugging this issue / how to do so exactly
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<Steelwire> It just freezes without any additional output, so it's hard to see where it's going wrong
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<Mic92> matthewcroughan_: where are you stuck?
<lukegb> Does Virtualbox have any logging that might indicate if it's getting stuck?
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<Mic92> still the libc stuff?
<simpson> matthewcroughan_: How big is your Yocto, uh, specification? Recipe? Can't remember their terminology, but if it's not too big, maybe you could build it with nixpkgs instead. (Maybe your Yocto tolerance is higher than mine!)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @stigtsp merged pull request #105018 → nixpkgs-review: 2.4.2 -> 2.5.0 → https://git.io/Jk9z5
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @stigtsp pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JkHRM
<redcedar[m]> lukegb: I checked in the nix package search to see what the name was (and also tried different greps; and then just read the whole list :)
<lukegb> oh boo :p
<Mic92> lukegb: sometimes it feels like oracle don't want people to understand their product. They also removed their debugger api at some point.
<Steelwire> VirtualBox doesn't show any logging. However, I can see that it's trying to do something / something is locked up, there's a load of around 66% constantly (I've just let it run for the last 15 minutes or so)
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<lukegb> Mic92: maybe they're worried if people understood it they'd switch to libvirt/VMware Player :p
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<matthewcroughan_> simpson: What do you mean? There's no way I can turn all my colleagues over to nix lol
<lukegb> Steelwire: I don't have any great suggestions - does it lock the system up even with the default resources?
<matthewcroughan_> The point is to provide an environment to build yocto in.
<Mic92> matthewcroughan_: That should be totally feasible with nix.
<matthewcroughan_> Nix can help unfsck the Yocto build environment, just like you can build Dockerfiles with nix.
<matthewcroughan_> Mic92: That thread shows how unfeasible it is :D
<matthewcroughan_> You've not read through the issues with locale?
<matthewcroughan_> There is nobody in that thread that has managed to get it working. Do you read it differently from me?
<raghavsood> Steelwire: thanks! keep failed was what I was looking for
<matthewcroughan_> I cannot do a better job of explaining the issue with locale than the guys in that thread already have.
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<matthewcroughan_> To put it simply though, apps like Perl have the same issue. No matter what you do in a nix shell, they are all unable to use UTF-8 locale.
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<simpson> matthewcroughan_: Ah, the calculus changes somewhat when you're being paid to use something else. Wondering who you were thinking of killing; coworkers~?
<FRidh> sigh...working on sphinx commonmark manual, using pandoc in a nix-build to convert docbook to md if not yet converted. Need a newer sphinx version as well. Obviously that means rebuilding the whole of haskell
<Mic92> matthewcroughan_: I could have a look at it but I need some example project.
<matthewcroughan_> simpson: lmfao
<matthewcroughan_> Mic92: you're in luck :D
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @romildo merged pull request #105019 → matcha-gtk-theme: 2020-11-11-0 -> 2020-11-23 → https://git.io/Jk9zF
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @romildo pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JkHE0
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gnidorah opened pull request #105047 → ctrlr: init at 6.0.36 → https://git.io/JkHEV
<FRidh> add glibcLocales e.g. to your environment / nix-shell invocation and set LC_ALL
<FRidh> ohh fhs
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<raboof> looking at https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixos/trunk-combined/tested, am I reading that correctly that nixos-unstable did not advance because the tests for `gnome3.geary` timed out? should someone retrigger that build or is that automatic?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh reopened pull request #104448 → qt5: 5.15.0 -> 5.15.2 → https://git.io/Jk2Q4
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<FRidh> raboof: correct, among other failures. I am restarting them no
<FRidh> now
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<Steelwire> lukegb: Not sure what happened, I lost all connection to the PC I was doing this on when trying to run with default resources. It seemed like it was not locking up, but now I lost access and can't reach the PC anymore. Thanks for the tips at least, I'll have a look later this week when I can physically go there
<red[evilred]> dutchie (IRC): I cloned your branch to take a peek at.
<lukegb> Steelwire: eep, well, good luck
<red[evilred]> I may not get to complete on it
<red[evilred]> due to family stuff - but taking a look while stuff is cooking
<Steelwire> so either the network went down there or it really did crash the host
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ivanbakel opened pull request #105048 → Make logstash packages run pre/postInstall hooks → https://git.io/JkHzf
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<dutchie> red[evilred]: cool, ty
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak merged pull request #105008 → maintainers: add mudrii → https://git.io/Jk9lD
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<red[evilred]> dutchie (IRC): 13732 nixbld1 20 0 4533156 3.4g 52 D 13.8 89.5 0:19.14 zig0
<red[evilred]> aaarggghhhhh
<red[evilred]> lol
<red[evilred]> Out of memory = Killed
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak merged pull request #105000 → plex: Add aarch64 platform → https://git.io/Jk9Yh
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak merged pull request #103682 → fix some dead meta.homepage entries → https://git.io/JkYm3
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak pushed 7 commits to master: https://git.io/JkHaK
<dutchie> :(
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JkHV7
<red[evilred]> added another 6G of swap and now it's compiling
<dutchie> normally takes about 10-15 minutes to build for me
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak merged pull request #99381 → pt2-clone,ft2-clone: only build on little-endian systems → https://git.io/JUHnY
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JkHre
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<red[evilred]> yup
<red[evilred]> tests are now running
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<red[evilred]> holy wow dutchie (IRC) - that's a LOT of tests
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<aaabbbbbbbbbb> Hi, does anybody know a way to modif the timeout setting for xscreensaver, I would like to extend the timeout that it takes to lock my screen?
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<infinisil> aaabbbbbbbbbb: Are you running xscreensaver in the background?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #104999 → kotlin: 1.4.0 -> 1.4.20 → https://git.io/Jk9Ym
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<cirno-999> I've noticed groff is kinda broken in 20.09, when this will be merged?
<{^_^}> #101866 (by catern, 4 weeks ago, merged): groff: fix PDF manpage building with -Tpdf/gropdf
<cirno-999> I don't think it's even in unstable yet
<aaabbbbbbbbbb> infinisil, sorry for the late reply, the answer is yes: "xscreensaver -nosplash"
<cole-h> cirno-999: It's merged to master, but hasn't been backported. unstable has had a rough time recently, so it hasn't bumped in a while.
<infinisil> aaabbbbbbbbbb: Then I think the answer is to run xscreensaver-demo, which lets you configure all things
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<adisbladis> cirno-999: Backports don't happen automatically, so someone has to make a PR backporting it.
<cirno-999> okay.
<cirno-999> any way i can get this into my current system right now?
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<infinisil> Personally I use a git checkout of nixpkgs
<infinisil> Then I can easily cherry-pick the changes I want
<aaabbbbbbbbbb> infinisil, thank you
<infinisil> Or do modifications to the tree directly for testing out stuff
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mweinelt merged pull request #104417 → homeassistant: 0.118.1 -> 0.118.3 → https://git.io/Jk2CE
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mweinelt opened pull request #105058 → homeassistant: 0.118.3 -> 0.118.4 → https://git.io/JkHHf
<cirno-999> infinisil: what if I did nixpkgs.overlays = [(self: super: groff = self.callPackage ./groff.nix { })];
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #105059 → qtox: 1.17.2 -> 1.17.3 → https://git.io/JkHHk
<infinisil> That would work too yeah, in this case at least
<cirno-999> ^^
<adisbladis> cirno-999: Another good thing about a git checkout is that with that you're already awfully close to contributing a backport PR ;)
<cirno-999> soon I'll look into stuff like that :D
<sjlnk> Where are the xorg logs located? Nothing in /var/log ...
<srhb> sjlnk: `journalctl -u display-manager` by default
<adisbladis> sjlnk: Should be /var/log/X.0.log. Maybe your display manager outputs it to the journal?
<sjlnk> adisbladis: thanks, I'll have a look at the display manager
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<sjlnk> srhb: thanks!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Hx0S opened pull request #105060 → Adding Darwin support for barcode package → https://git.io/JkHHF
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #105037 → nushell: 0.22.0 -> 0.23.0 → https://git.io/JkHkV
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #104969 → fmt: 7.1.2 -> 7.1.3 → https://git.io/JkSrg
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #101420 → minio: 2020-08-08T04-50-06Z -> 2020-10-18T21-54-12Z → https://git.io/JTgAF
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 closed pull request #97204 → minio: 2020-08-08T04-50-06Z -> 2020-09-02T18-19-50Z → https://git.io/JUsa2
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #105056 → qogir-icon-theme: 2020-06-22 -> 2020-11-22 → https://git.io/JkHDP
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto merged pull request #105048 → Make logstash packages run pre/postInstall hooks → https://git.io/JkHzf
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<cirno-999> I'm really not confident, but, may it be that https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/101866/files does not build?
<cirno-999> I'm getting `substitute(): ERROR: file 'tmac/www.tmac' does not exist
<cirno-999> (it seems to not exist in the source .tar.gz - there's only a tmac/www.tmac.in)
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<cirno-999> I'll look at hydra ;p
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #102143 → klipper: 0.8.0 -> 0.9.1 → https://git.io/JTyNc
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto merged pull request #104989 → autojump: py2 -> py3 → https://git.io/JkSpU
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fgaz opened pull request #105062 → littlegptracker: unstable-2019-04-14 -> unstable-2020-11-26, remove upstreamed patch → https://git.io/JkH7K
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<cirno-999> i changed it, and it starts to build ;p
<cirno-999> yeah, now I can render PDFs
<cirno-999> :3
<cirno-999> left a comment on the issue, btw.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto merged pull request #105057 → qpdf: 10.0.3 -> 10.0.4 → https://git.io/JkHSB
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « qpdf: 10.0.3 -> 10.0.4 »: https://git.io/JkH5K
<sjlnk> Is there some faster alternative to "nixos-rebuild test --fast" for quickly checking the configuration files for syntactic correctness?
<sjlnk> Also is it safe to interrupt "nixos-rebuild test" with SIGINT?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #105007 → doc: convert beam docs to commonmark (see #104962) → https://git.io/Jk9lB
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<rogerr> on nixos i add home.packages pkgs.cargo and pkgs.rustc. when i try to run nvim foo.rs it starts with error that rust-src not available. so i search https://search.nixos.org/packages?channel=20.09&show=rustup&from=0&size=30&sort=relevance&query=rust+src nothing found what i do pls?
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<thibm> sjlnk: nix-instantiate '<nixpkgs/nixos>' -A system
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @petabyteboy merged pull request #100826 → nim: 1.2.6 -> 1.4.0 → https://git.io/JTcMR
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<sjlnk> thibm: thanks!
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<rogerr> cargo and rustc pkgs are also mutually exclusive with rustup pkg, so i can't use rustup to install rust-src
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<mindtree[m]> rogerr: I think I remember seeing a rustSrc field on rustPlatform or one of its attributes, though I don't quite remember where. Is there some path that nvim searches for the rust src? Or does it specifically check a location that rustup typically installs to?
<averell> i use the great https://github.com/mozilla/nixpkgs-mozilla#using-in-nix-expressions and you can specify rust-src in your extensions
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ehmry merged pull request #104436 → zerotierone: 1.4.6 -> 1.6.1 → https://git.io/Jk2Ki
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<rogerr> averell is that different than the global solution on https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Rust ?
<mgsk> Anyone experienced using CUDA (pytorch) on nixos? No matter what I try, I hit `RuntimeError: Found no NVIDIA driver on your system.`
<rogerr> they're a little different. what's better about that one averell?
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<SomeoneS1> mgsk: do you have hardware.opengl.enable set?
<mgsk> SomeoneS1: nope!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl opened pull request #105066 → blender: fix on darwin → https://git.io/JkHxx
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #105067 → seaweedfs: 2.10 -> 2.12 → https://git.io/JkHpL
<SomeoneS1> Honestly, I still find this situation rather disturbing, but it's not like I can suggest any cleaner solutions atm =\
<simpson> SomeoneS1: What's disturbing about it? (Or maybe I'm misreading backscroll?)
<SomeoneS1> mgsk: also note the difference between packages pytorch-bin and pytorch&c (the former fetches the .whl, the others are either built w/o cuda, or trigger building many things from scratch)
<averell> rogerr: i would say they are essentially equivalent, but the wiki one has this one specific rust config ruststable = (nixpkgs.latest.rustChannels.stable.rust.override { extensions = [ "rust-src" "rls-preview" "rust-analysis" "rustfmt-preview" ];}); and then adds some useful libraries to the environment, whereas the github example just emphasizes different ways to use their repo (a file with a
<averell> date, stable, etc)
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<mgsk> omggggggggg SomeoneS1 it worked
<mgsk> i spent HOURS trying to figure this out, going to like page 10 on google
<mgsk> in future i'll just ask here first :D
<rogerr> averell what i dont get is why i have to put all my rust in 1 dir like it says?
<rogerr> i wanna be able to put rust dirs anywhere in my user account
<rogerr> im installing rust cargo etc using home.packages home manager so it's user wide not system wide
<SomeoneS1> simpson: uh, I feel like e.g. libcuda is a runtime dependency for pytorch-bin, but we smhw decide we'll let runtime find it based on global system configuration (on /run/opengl-driver/lib) because "we'd need to modprobe hardware-dependent nvidia_uvc anyway"
<simpson> SomeoneS1: Aha. It's not arbitrary; it's because the nVidia GPU driver replaces *all* of those dynamically-linked libraries, and so we have to maintain them as a unit.
<SomeoneS1> simpson: and I'm still not familiar with this stuff enough to tell where this boundary between hw-dependent and hw-independent worlds is
<rogerr> averell maybe i need to set https://github.com/neoclide/coc-rls "rust.sysroot" somewhere?
<simpson> Your next question might be why libGL.so.1 is mandated to be dynamically loaded from some particular place, and the answer is that that shared object's linkage and ABI layout is specified as part of GL on X11 and POSIX.
<SomeoneS1> simpson: wow, I didn't know about the latter, although had some suspicions - thanks
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<averell> i guess that would work, i have a shell.nix that exports RUST_SRC_PATH and that works for rust-analyzer for me
<SomeoneS1> simpson: still I assume there should be a way for "pytorch-bin" derivation to declare that at runtime it depends on certain things to be provided by the system
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<averell> it's also a bit more convenient to switch versions like that, rather than nixos-rebuild
<simpson> SomeoneS1: It would be nice. I think, unfortunately, that that ship has sailed for Linux's particular flavor of direct-rendering API. This happens to be a *very* tough problem historically, with users being able to read Somebody Else's Renderbuffer from the GPU.
<SomeoneS1> simpson: as in, pytorch-bin needs /run/opengl-driver to be present, but we can't type-check if configurtaion provides it
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<SomeoneS1> simpson: and runtime error is not informative either (as discussion in the issue proves)
<SomeoneS1> simpson: Hmm, I rather meant that it's some other kind of "runtime dependency" that nix hypothetically could manage but, to my awareness, doesn't atm
<simpson> SomeoneS1: While I don't know if we support them, there exist possible configurations where *indirect* *software* GL is available, and in those cases, the whole song and dance would still be done in the standard way. I agree that surely something better ought to be possible, but it's not clear what.
<rogerr> averell what you set RUST_SRC_PATH to pls?
<simpson> GL is very much a special case here. For NixOS, we could put in effort and have a special system GL which does nothing except print an informative error message and crash the process which loaded it~
<averell> RUST_SRC_PATH = "${rust.toolchain}/lib/rustlib/src/rust/library"; but i believe that path changed in some version when they shuffled stuff around. and rust.toolchain can just be rustChannels.stable.rust or similar
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<SomeoneS1> simpson: I see. On the other hand, there are other programs that depend on some kernel modules to be loaded. Like, vpn depending on tun/tap. It's also a runtime dependency, and it's also specific to the a particular build of the kernel.
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<simpson> SomeoneS1: Yeah. In general, we need capability-aware kernels (seL4, Genode) rather than Linux if we want to make serious progress here.
<simpson> Simply because Linux doesn't have the right API for politely indicating that you hard-depend on a particular bit of functionality and must otherwise die.
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<simpson> ...Sorry, that's misleading. Linux does have the polite-indication API, but instead what we'd want is that the *user* chooses which functionalities to give to the application, and the application never knows about the ability to ask; it just has or has not.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #105062 → littlegptracker: unstable-2019-04-14 -> unstable-2020-11-26, remove upstreamed patch → https://git.io/JkH7K
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<shapr> Has someone written nix tutorials for doing advent of code in various languages? I want to do Haskell, but I'd also like to try rust.
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<Reventlov> hey there
<shapr> hi
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<shapr> volt never?
<Reventlov> https://0x0.st/iRIe.txt Am i doing something wrong ?
<rogerr> averell do you use https://github.com/fannheyward/coc-rust-analyzer neovim plugin too? or just coc-nvim?
<Reventlov> like, is this expected to have home-manager conflicting with man-db on something ?
<shapr> jag har ingen aning :-| vet nästan ingen för nix
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dywedir opened pull request #105073 → pijul: 1.0.0-alpha.5 -> 1.0.0-alpha.8 → https://git.io/JkQeB
<averell> rogerr: i use it, and i have this: ln -sf ${rust.toolchain}/bin/rust-analyzer "$HOME/.config/coc/extensions/coc-rust-analyzer-data/" so it finds it automatically, but I'm not so sure this whole setup is best practice.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mindavi opened pull request #105074 → clamav: enable unit tests, add libjson-c, disable rar explicitly → https://git.io/JkQe1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #104637 → cmake: 3.18.4 -> 3.19.0 → https://git.io/Jko9x
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<cirno-999> > You can install a set with extra packages by using something like (texlive.combine { inherit (texlive) scheme-medium xifthen ifmtarg framed paralist titlesec; })
<{^_^}> error: syntax error, unexpected WITH, expecting ')', at (string):435:23
<cirno-999> okay, where do I put this o.0
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<cole-h> in your packages list
<rogerr> averell what do you think about https://github.com/neoclide/coc.nvim/wiki/Language-servers#rust the 3rd option just using rust analyzer installed with systempackages, and not using coc-rust-analyzer, just coc-nvim?
<rogerr> i tried it but it didn't do auto fmt but i dunno if i did it wrong
<rogerr> for the "command" is rust-analyzer right?
<averell> haven't tried it, but let me know how it goes :) i have a let g:rustfmt_autosave = 1 in my vim conf, maybe it's off by default, i don't remember.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #105076 → skaffold: 1.16.0 -> 1.17.0 → https://git.io/JkQvp
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @woffs opened pull request #105077 → shotcut: use qt-5.15, rework → https://git.io/JkQvh
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<rogerr> omigurr it's working!
<Reiser> It seems the preBuild hook for buildGoModule runs for both the go-modules and build phases?
<Reiser> How can I write something that only runs for go-modules
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed to master « builtins.fetchGit: Fix shortRev attribute for dirty trees »: https://git.io/JkQf9
<Reiser> Without doing some horrific hacks
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<averell> rogerr: congratulations :)
<rogerr> averell++
<{^_^}> averell's karma got increased to 3
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #105022 → microserver: 0.1.8 -> 0.2.0 → https://git.io/Jk9aX
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<rogerr> averell so i have the components i need but how do i add other targets?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @urbas opened pull request #105078 → python3Packages.py-air-control: init at 2.1.0 → https://git.io/JkQU7
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #101797 → minetime: 1.7.3 -> 1.8.10 → https://git.io/JT6a0
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #101185 → gitAndTools.lab: wrap xdg-open to fix `lab mr browse` → https://git.io/JTRAx
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<red[evilred]> Man, I wish I had access to my build machine. This 2 CPU VM just isn't cutting it :-/
<DigitalKiwi> why don't you make it a 4 cpu VM
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<red[evilred]> I guess I could for a few hours
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #104545 → runc: add wrapper for systemd → https://git.io/JkwZS
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<energizer> some of my store got deleted. is `nix-store --verify --repair` the way to get it back?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar merged pull request #104908 → mcomix3: init at 20201123 → https://git.io/Jkyuq
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<energizer> when i do that it says "removing <path> from database" which is the opposite of what i want
<energizer> error: executing SQLite statement 'delete from ValidPaths where path = ?;': constraint failed (in '/nix/var/nix/db/db.sqlite')
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<red[evilred]> I wonder if I should... hmm
<red[evilred]> bbiab
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<shapr> aleph-: y0, wassup?
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<nicolas[m]> infinisil: what's the status of types.orderOf?
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<shapr> Hi, I'm trying to edit my /etc/nix/nix.conf but it's a symlink to /etc/static/nix/nix.conf and vi won't do it. What's the fix?
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<energizer> shapr: are you on nixos?
<shapr> energizer: yes, I am
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<energizer> shapr: you can configure nix in configuration.nix
<energizer> see man configuration.nix under `nix.`
<shapr> ah, so /etc/nix/nix.conf is generated from my configuration.nix ?
<energizer> yes
<shapr> ok, thanks!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #101105 → lib3mf: 1.8.1 → 2.0.0 → https://git.io/JTBBS
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<shapr> so I just need to figure out how to modify trusted-public-keys and substituters in my configuration.nix
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @berbiche opened pull request #105081 → bottom: 0.5.1 -> 0.5.2 → https://git.io/JkQIZ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #105082 → svlint: 0.4.7 -> 0.4.8 → https://git.io/JkQIi
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #104572 → yed: unmark broken → https://git.io/JkrIr
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<cole-h> shapr: `nix.binaryCaches` and `nix.binaryCachePublicKeys` for substituters and trusted-public-keys, respectively
<shapr> ah, thanks!
<shapr> cole-h: is there an "append" operation? I don't want to overwrite the existing nixos keys
<cole-h> Lists merge by default
<cole-h> Actually, depends on how the defaults are specified. Let me check real quick.
<shapr> thank you!
<cole-h> Yeah, they merge
<cole-h> Since the module implementation specifies `nix.binaryCachePublicKeys` to be the key of `cache.nixos.org`, it will merge with whatever caches you add
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #101988 → nanopb: 0.4.1 -> 0.4.3 → https://git.io/JTMJC
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<cole-h> In my case, cache.nixos.org key and substituter end up at the ned
<cole-h> end*
<cole-h> But I don't think / know if the order is deterministic
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #105083 → symengine: 0.5.0 -> 0.6.0 → https://git.io/JkQL1
<cole-h> TL;DR: you'll always have cache.nixos.org in your binary cache config *UNLESS YOU `lib.mkForce` THE LIST*
<shapr> something like: nix.binaryCaches = nix.binaryCaches https://hydra.iohk.io
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #101969 → fedora-coreos-config-transpiler: 0.6.0 -> 0.7.0 → https://git.io/JT1yv
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<cole-h> No. `nix.binaryCaches = [ "https://hydra.iohk.io" ];`
<cole-h> Then nix.conf would contain that cache as well as cache.nixos.org
<shapr> ah, so I don't need to do something like the shell trick I'm used to: export PATH = PATH : $PATH
<cole-h> Nope
<shapr> ok, thanks!
* shapr tries it
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<cole-h> Since duplicate module definitions merge (in separate files, of course -- Nix doesn't allow duplicate keys in the same file)
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<shapr> vaguely related, is there a language server for configuration.nix ? the attribute trees seem arbitrary to me
<shapr> would be nice to be able to have autocompletion
<cole-h> There's rnix-lsp and another one I don't recal
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 opened pull request #105084 → gollum: update dependencies → https://git.io/JkQLh
<cole-h> But I don't use them, so I can't attest to their quality / functionality
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #105072 → simplenote: 2.0.0 -> 2.1.0 → https://git.io/JkQem
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<shapr> I'll look those up, thanks!
<makefu> shapr: for the cli there is also `nixos-option` which supports autocompletion in the shell
<cole-h> (Depending on your shell.)
<shapr> I'll try that, thanks!
<shapr> cole-h: you were right, my generated /etc/nix/nix.conf now has the correct values!
* shapr hops cheerfully
<makefu> cole-h: as always, your miles may vary :)
<cole-h> Yep. Definitely doesn't have completion in fish :P
<shapr> I'm using stock bash at the moment, haven't put zsh into my system packages
<shapr> I am feeling a bit lost without my decade or so of accumulated zsh config
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #100194 → FormEncode: 1.3.1 -> 2.0.0 → https://git.io/JTUVO
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<makefu> shapr: you should be able to `just use` your zsh in nixos
<makefu> just make sure that the software you are using in your zsh config is installed for the user (users.users.<username>.packages or environment.systemPackges)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #100521 → pythonPackages.libsass: init at 0.20.1 → https://git.io/JTOm4
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #105068 → sickgear: 0.23.0 -> 0.23.2 → https://git.io/JkHhU
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dywedir merged pull request #105073 → pijul: 1.0.0-alpha.5 -> 1.0.0-alpha.8 → https://git.io/JkQeB
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jshholland opened pull request #105086 → zig: 0.6.0 -> 0.7.0 → https://git.io/JkQqm
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<rogerr> would it ever make sense to put the shell.nix for a nix-shell environment into a different dir than the environment? like running nix-shell with ~/shells/foo.nix for ~/foo
<steveeJ> has anyone managed to install additional targets for rust? would be nice if I could avoid the mozilla overlay
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #105058 → homeassistant: 0.118.3 -> 0.118.4 → https://git.io/JkHHf
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mweinelt opened pull request #105088 → libxml2: fix CVE-2020-24977 → https://git.io/JkQmb
<rogerr> that's exactly what im trying to do right now
<rogerr> seems like best option is to use nix-shell solution
<rogerr> each project's dir will have a shell.nix in it that sets up rust
<shapr> for whatever reason, my CPU frequency stays lower in nixos than in ubuntu, but nixos default settings are much better about caching the filesystem. buff/cache is 123766828
<shapr> I've tried setting cpu frequency governor to performance, but I'm not convinced it's working
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<simpson> I only know how to use the older tools; `nix-shell -p cpufrequtils` and then use `cpufreq-info` to see what your CPUs support.
<shapr> simpson: ah, thanks!
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<supersandro2000> fck. wrong branch
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<mrSpec> Hello! I'm running nixos container and gitea service in it. I'd like to configure my gitea from scratch, removing all previous config. I've commented out the container, called nix-rebuild swtich and then nix-collect-garbage -d. However after uncommenting the container my old user account is in gitea. What am I missing?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flozy closed pull request #103094 → krusader: added qtbase in mkDerivation → https://git.io/JkvvG
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<supersandro2000> so my default remote is my fork. Why on earth did it push to upstream?
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<edef> the github CLI stuff does this sometimes when i try to open a PR before manually pushing it, and it drives me nuts…
<supersandro2000> but I have never opened that branch before...
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #105089 → tesseract: 3.05.00 -> 4.1.1 → https://git.io/JkQYS
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #105082 → svlint: 0.4.7 -> 0.4.8 → https://git.io/JkQIi
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #105070 → signal-cli: 0.6.11 -> 0.6.12 → https://git.io/JkHjy
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<theduke> Out of curiosity: will nixpkgs (eventually) be rewritten to individual flakes?
<samueldr> I don't think anyone has an answer for that
<samueldr> but most likely it'll stay the way it is for a while
<theduke> Is there something like a forum thread or that goes into pros and cons of this? Or is it just too early to tell?
<steveeJ> rogerr: in my case there's a crate in the workspace which builds Wasm files in its build.rs, so I need the native and the wasm targets in the same toolchain
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<rogerr> how you gonna solve it?
<steveeJ> rogerr: currently looks like the two options are using rustup or rust from the mozilla overlay
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 closed pull request #78840 → Add ringcentral meetings → https://git.io/JvOz0
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<steveeJ> I don't know if the mozilla overlay rust can be used to write derivations though. I'll investigate that tomorrow
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<shapr> how do I set my default shell in nixOS? nixos-option says I can use shell = "/bin/zsh" but that doesn't match the path for my installed zsh?
<shapr> oh, I bet it's pkgs.zsh ?
<Yaniel> yep
<cole-h> users.users.<name>.shell = pkgs.zsh;
<shapr> ah, thanks!
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/ea84f9d409d (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #101865 → jsonnet-bundler: init at 0.4.0 → https://git.io/JTPzd
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #101807 → pspp 1.2.0 -> 1.4.1 → https://git.io/JT6XZ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #101430 → surf: 2.0 -> 2019-02-08-unstable → https://git.io/JT2vV
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #101637 → darling-dmg: 1.0.4+git20180914 -> 1.0.4+git20200427 → https://git.io/JTrB3
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #105097 → traefik: 2.3.3 -> 2.3.4 → https://git.io/JkQnC
<{^_^}> [nixos-search] @ncfavier opened pull request #236 → Fix rendering of default and example values → https://git.io/JkQnB
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<shapr> next silly question, why is my path different in zsh than in bash? now that I've set zsh to my default shell, I can't find some binaries installed via my configuration.nix ?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @kwohlfahrt opened pull request #105098 → Use structured settings for PAM configuration → https://git.io/JkQcP
<notgne2> shapr: you need `programs.zsh.enable = true;` or something
<shapr> er, what does that do?
<notgne2> for it to populate the `/etc` files for ZSH to give it the NixOS $PATH
<notgne2> the same goes for most shells I think