worldofpeace changed the topic of #nixos to: NixOS 20.09 Nightingale ✨ https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-20-09-release/9668 || https://nixos.org || Latest NixOS: https://nixos.org/nixos/download.html || Latest Nix: https://nixos.org/nix/download.html || Logs: https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos/ || use ,channels for a list of Nix* related channels || nixcon videos: https://tinyurl.com/nixcon2019 || Link to the output of nix-inf
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<energizer> what am i supposed to have in my `nix-shell --pure` if i want `less` and stuff like that?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @orivej opened pull request #103650 → sc-controller: unbreak by restoring pygobject3 for python2 → https://git.io/Jkmct
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<cole-h> energizer: less is part of busybox
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<cole-h> ,locate bin less
<{^_^}> Found in packages: less, busybox
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<samueldr> no, prefer less than busybox
<samueldr> busybox is a minimalistic implementation of many tools, which sometimes will lack features
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<aidenholmes> for installing busybox breaks the ps command
<cirno-999> ,locate bin ls
<{^_^}> Found in packages: toybox, busybox, coreutils, klibcShrunk, coreutils-full
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<samueldr> here coreutils is to be chosen
<samueldr> toybox is basically "another busybox"
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @thefloweringash opened pull request #103651 → musescore: fix unpack on darwin → https://git.io/JkmWQ
<infinisil> > toybox.meta.description
<{^_^}> "Lightweight implementation of some Unix command line utilities"
<V> <gchristensen> some people have the opinion that you're not in too many channels until you have multiple connections to freenode with different nicknames to get around freenode's joined channel limit ← hi
<V> cirno-999: you can find the channel join limit in the ISUPPORT freenode sends you when you connect
<V> which is CHANLIMIT=#:120 as qyliss said
<cirno-999> ok :P
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @akirak closed pull request #103608 → fuse-overlayfs: Propagate fuse3 → https://git.io/JkqYH
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<infinisil> > pshow toybox
<{^_^}> "Lightweight implementation of some Unix command line utilities < https://landley.net/toybox/ >"
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq merged pull request #103649 → go_1_14: 1.14.11 -> 1.14.12, go_1_15: 1.15.4 -> 1.15.5 → https://git.io/JkmGG
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<growpotkin> Y'all I feel like a dinosaur. I am just learning about flakes. I got my NixOS config using them just fine, I think I have a ton of old crappy overlays and NIXPATH hacks that should get cleaned out now; but one big question I've got now is how to organize my NixOS flake with a Home Manager flake. I have separate git repos for my system config and my user directory, so I assume that means I need
<growpotkin> separate flakes. Does anybody have an example config they can share with me?
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<growpotkin> The example flake posted on the home-manager repo seems like it's rolling the user's config into the system config, which isn't how I've got my files organized now. I had kept home-manager's config file separate because I didn't want to have to rebuild my whole system any time I wanted to change my emacs config or something. Does is make sense to keep them separated still?
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<lordcirth> growpotkin, either way works. One of the advantages of flakes is that no-change rebuilds are much faster
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<cirno-999> > pshow ppsspp
<{^_^}> "A HLE Playstation Portable emulator, written in C++ < https://www.ppsspp.org/ >"
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #103620 → bfs: 2.0 -> 2.1 → https://git.io/JkqPV
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #103634 → cloudflared: 2020.10.2 -> 2020.11.3 → https://git.io/JkqFK
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jkm82
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #103644 → broot: 1.0.4 -> 1.0.5 → https://git.io/JkmLt
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #103640 → criu: 3.14 -> 3.15 → https://git.io/Jkme5
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<growpotkin> Okay so lets say I kept them separated, right now my configuration.nix has a hackish `self: super: with super.lib; let eval = import <nixpkgs/nixos/lib/eval-config.nix>; paths = (eval {modules = [(import <nixos-config>)];}).config.nixpkgs.overlays; in fold' (flip extends) (_: super) paths self` bit to compose all of my overlays into `nix` and `home-manger`. I'm imagining I can scrap that now
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #103599 → yarn: 1.22.5 -> 1.22.10 → https://git.io/JkqTJ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jkm81
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #103627 → cockroachdb: 20.1.7 -> 20.1.8 → https://git.io/Jkq9e
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jkm8y
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<growpotkin> If I do a flake for home-manager by itself do I use this `homeManagerConfiguration` function? Or the `home-manager.nixosModules.home-manager` one that I'm seeing in the home-manager README?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #103593 → xmrig-proxy: 6.3.0 -> 6.4.0 → https://git.io/Jkqes
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #103561 → stripe-cli: 1.5.3 -> 1.5.4 → https://git.io/JktE2
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #103553 → spectre-meltdown-checker: 0.43 -> 0.44 → https://git.io/JktsX
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #103568 → thanos: 0.15.0 -> 0.16.0 → https://git.io/JktPv
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #103563 → tanka: 0.11.1 -> 0.12.0 → https://git.io/Jktaq
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #103551 → souffle: 2.0.1 -> 2.0.2 → https://git.io/Jkt3h
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #103571 → throttled: 0.7 -> 0.8 → https://git.io/JktXQ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #103574 → toxic: 0.8.3 -> 0.8.4 → https://git.io/JktSP
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/Jkm4g
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #103602 → yq-go: 3.4.0 -> 3.4.1 → https://git.io/Jkqk6
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #103534 → sensu-go-backend: 5.21.2 -> 6.1.2 → https://git.io/Jktkl
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<zuserm> how do I figure out what package has an executable (if any)? I'm looking for hcitool
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #103519 → rootlesskit: 0.10.0 -> 0.11.0 → https://git.io/JkLpv
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #103516 → rnnoise-plugin: 0.9 -> 0.91 → https://git.io/JkLx1
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<Henson> is there a way I can build a NixOS install CD ISO image that includes all of the store paths needed for the install? I created my own CD image, and when I try to install it using only the packages that were present in the installer CD image, it still needs to download things from the internet. I'd like to make an offline install CD if that's possible.
<matthewcroughan_> colemickens: what happened to your win10vm?
<matthewcroughan_> Looked good
<matthewcroughan_> You got rid of it because it wasn't working?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #103549 → sngrep: 1.4.7 -> 1.4.8 → https://git.io/JktOE
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JkmBU
<Henson> alternatively, is there an easy way to export ALL of the paths in /nix/store? The only way I can see is to do a nix-store --dump and nix-store --restore on all of the paths in a store
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #103538 → sickgear: 0.21.42 -> 0.22.15 → https://git.io/JktIE
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JkmBs
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<matthewcroughan_> My friend said that nix files look like Nginx configs.
<matthewcroughan_> Is there a connection between the nginx language, and nginx configs? In terms of its inspiration?
<matthewcroughan_> nix language and nginx config language*
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar merged pull request #101939 → gnomeExtensions.clipboard-indicator: 34 -> 37 → https://git.io/JT1OY
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<jonreeve[m]> Whenever I start up my system, I get this error: an error occurred in stage 1 of the boot process... and I can press * to ignore it and boot anyway, which will usually work. But what could be causing this, and how can I avoid this error?
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<Henson> matthewcroughan_: I'd say it looks somewhat similar in that it has curly braces, semi-colons, and stylistically uses indenting, but that might be where the similarities end. The NGINX configuration file looks like a structured way of defining a configuration heirarchy. The Nix language is a lazy functional language that defines variables, functions, and expressions that get evaluated.
<energizer> jonreeve[m]: sometimes when it cant find a drive by-uuid i get that error
<Henson> matthewcroughan_: I'm not an expert on NGINX, though, but those are my thoughts based on looking through several long NGINX configuration files.
<jonreeve[m]> @energizer, ah OK. I'm going to see if I have all the right UUIDs there.
<matthewcroughan_> awesome Henson
<matthewcroughan_> thanks for that :D
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<Henson> matthewcroughan_: Nix's expression language is slightly similar to Haskell in that is uses let blocks to define expressions in a pure way, and provides ways of mapping over data structures, but it's not intended for general computation
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<zuserm> no hcitool :(
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dylex opened pull request #103652 → pdsh: enable optional slurm support → https://git.io/Jkm0m
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @RaghavSood opened pull request #103653 → go-ethereum: 1.9.23 -> 1.9.24 → https://git.io/Jkm0n
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<growpotkin> zurserm: Wait I needed `hcitool` at one point, let me check where I found it.
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<growpotkin> zuserm: it's packaged with `bluez`
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<growpotkin> zuserm: `hcitool` was deprecated a while back, I stumbled through all of this crap a while ago when I was trying to get a BT keyboard to work. Various tools packaged with `bluez` cover the same features, off the top of my head I believe `btconfig` is the "replacement", but `bluetoothctl` is also very useful.
<growpotkin> You can do `nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A bluez; ls result/bin; rm -rf result;` to see all the utilities it provides, there's a ton but the two I mentioned are likely the ones you're looking for.
<growpotkin> zuserm: Alternatively you could try and build `hcitool` from source, but considering how long ago they dropped support for it, I'd be shocked if it behaved properly.
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<lordcirth> A game I just got requires libkeyutils 1.5. steam-run has 1.4. So does steam-run built from master. What's the best way to get a steam-run with 1.5?
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<zuserm> does anyone know how to get services.xserver.xkbOptions = "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"; to actually work?
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<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @github-actions[bot] pushed commit from GitHub Actions to master « Update flake.lock and blogs.xml [ci skip] »: https://git.io/JkmgV
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ivan opened pull request #103654 → b3sum: 0.3.4 -> 0.3.7 → https://git.io/Jkmae
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @sveitser opened pull request #103655 → nix-prefetch-github: 4.0.1 -> 4.0.2 → https://git.io/Jkmrz
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<GrimSleepless> Good Evening folks :)
<GrimSleepless> I was wondering if someone could have a look to my PR https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/103268 . It has been approved by another contributor. Since it is a browser, I feel that it needs to be up-to-date :) Thanks guys!'
<{^_^}> #103268 (by JeffLabonte, 2 days ago, open): brave: 1.15.76 -> 1.16.72
<GrimSleepless> s
<{^_^}> [mobile-nixos] @samueldr opened pull request #239 → stage-1: More useful error handler → https://git.io/JkmKk
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @samueldr merged pull request #103268 → brave: 1.15.76 -> 1.16.72 → https://git.io/JkTRh
<samueldr> thanks GrimSleepless
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @samueldr pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JkmKR
<GrimSleepless> Thanks you @samueldr :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cdepillabout merged pull request #103061 → haskell: Add hoogle option to developPackage → https://git.io/JkeL7
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cdepillabout pushed 4 commits to haskell-updates: https://git.io/JkmKu
<cirno-999> that's a quick merge!
<samueldr> some changes really are simple to handle, when someone gets their eyes on :)
<samueldr> some look simple, but require more testing
<samueldr> still, it took 3 days from the moment it was opened, so quick once asked, but not quick overall
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #103656 → eksctl: 0.30.0 -> 0.31.0 → https://git.io/JkmiI
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #103657 → curaengine: 4.7.1 -> 4.8 → https://git.io/Jkmid
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @JeffLabonte opened pull request #103658 → [20/09] brave: 1.15.76 -> 1.16.72 → https://git.io/JkmPv
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #103659 → exodus: 20.10.23 -> 20.11.10 → https://git.io/Jkm10
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @expipiplus1 opened pull request #103660 → haskell: Add cabal2nixOptions to developPackage → https://git.io/JkmM2
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<colemickens> The private key generated by nix-store --generate-binary-cache-key is 64 bytes? Even though ed25519 says to store the 32 byte seed?
<colemickens> (similar to how wg's priv/pub keys are the same size)
<colemickens> Is this a "known" idiosyncracy of nix or am I getting something wrong?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cdepillabout merged pull request #103660 → haskell: Add cabal2nixOptions to developPackage → https://git.io/JkmM2
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cdepillabout pushed 2 commits to haskell-updates: https://git.io/JkmQZ
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<colemickens> Also, the deriver field doesn't carry the store prefix?
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<jonreeve[m]> @energizer, looks like my UUIDs are all correct, unless I'm missing something. They're the same as I get with `ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/`. I regenerated the hardware config with nixos-generate-config, but it's the same as the old one.
<jonreeve[m]> In case anyone has any ideas with this, I've described the issue here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/619413/how-can-i-avoid-the-nixos-startup-error-an-error-occurred-in-stage-1-of-the-boo
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #103662 → eventstat: 0.04.10 -> 0.04.11 → https://git.io/Jkmdy
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl opened pull request #103663 → ocamlPackages.httpaf: 0.4.1 → 0.6.6 → https://git.io/JkmdS
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @doronbehar merged pull request #103584 → ruby: check disallowed references with jitSupport disabled → https://git.io/JktNh
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #103006 → linuxPackages.bcc: 0.16.0 -> 0.17.0 → https://git.io/JThsE
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @doronbehar opened pull request #103665 → hetzner-kube: support for bash completion → https://git.io/JkmAc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @doronbehar closed pull request #55404 → hetzner-kube: support for bash completion → https://git.io/fhHf1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xaverdh closed pull request #103156 → tor-browser-bundle-bin: rewrite using fhs-user-env approach → https://git.io/JkfDZ
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<typetetris> I am confused, what is the "official" subreddit for nix again? /r/nix or /r/nixos ?
<eyJhb> typetetris: I am guessing both are, but one is for nix (package manager/lang), the other for the os
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<typetetris> there is even /r/nixpkgs ... that might be too much i think ...
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<eyJhb> I have switched to the lastest build in master, in nixpkgs using kernel 5.9. But for some reason, my `modinfo batman-adv` shows version 2020.3, instead of 2020.4... Any ideas why?
<eyJhb> > pkgs.linuxPackages_5_9.batman_adv.version
<{^_^}> "2020.4-5.9.8"
<eyJhb> typetetris: Have you seen our channels on IRC?
<eyJhb> ,channels
<{^_^}> Largest Nix channels: #nixos, #nixos-dev, #nixos-chat, #nixos-aarch64, #nixos-security, #nixcon, #nixos-officehours, #nixops, #haskell.nix, #nix-darwin, #nixos-de, #nixos-emacs, #nixos-on-your-router, #nixos-nur, #nix-lang, #nixos-fr, #nixos-systemd, #nixos-borg, #nixos-wiki
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<typetetris> And then there is discourse too. I just wish there was a single place to pick up news and pointers to make one aware of cool new stuff.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @saschagrunert opened pull request #103667 → kustomize: 3.8.1 -> 3.8.7 → https://git.io/Jkmhy
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xaverdh opened pull request #103668 → tor-browser-bundle-mutable: init → https://git.io/Jkmjn
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<DigitalKiwi> if that's not confusing enough some of the discord channels have an irc bridge
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @sevenfourk opened pull request #103670 → terragrunt: removing terraform dependency → https://git.io/JkYee
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #101251 → fmt: 6.2.1 -> 7.0.3 → https://git.io/JTEFD
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<typetetris> What is the difference between `callPackage` and `callPackages` ?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xaverdh opened pull request #103676 → tor-browser-bundle-bin: 10.0.2 -> 10.0.4 → https://git.io/JkYTb
<typetetris> Something xorg related, really?
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<sulami> Hey, I've got a noob question: when packaging something that fetches platform-specific binaries, what's idiomatic pattern to vary the url & sha depending on currentSystem?
<dminuoso> sulami: if stdenv.isDarwin then ... else ...
<dminuoso> sulami: take a look at pkgs/development/compilers/ocaml/ber-metaocaml.nix for example
<dminuoso> sulami: or better example pkgs/development/compilers/openjdk/8.nix
<dminuoso> (this is just a simple programming problem, really)
<sulami> thank you!
<sulami> I've got /a solution/, but it's messy, and I felt it should be a somewhat common problem
<dminuoso> sulami: Personally Id just make an attrset
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<dminuoso> something along the lines of `let bi = { amd64 = { ... }; aarch64 = { ... }; }; arch = ...; in bi.${arch}`
<dminuoso> Where amd64 then contains some dictionary of url/sha that you can then pass along
<sulami> Oh yeah, that would probably work
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<urkk> is the pow operation in nix lang or in some function?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl merged pull request #103186 → ocamlPackages.mstruct: remove at 1.4.0 → https://git.io/JkJXr
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl pushed to master « ocamlPackages.mstruct: remove at 1.4.0 »: https://git.io/JkYI8
<V> I don't think it has pow
<V> or float functoins
<V> it's not a general purpose language
<urkk> I only need it for integers
<dminuoso> V: Id argue that's a argument
<dminuoso> "You cant possibly need pow for your type of problem" is a bad mindset.
<V> it's not *my* mindset
<V> it's what's in the paper, and it's what definitely applies to the language
<urkk> I can implement it with lists I guess, but I find it curious that is not in nix lang
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<V> I've written HTML templating, so I'm certainly not using it in the spirit of the language
<dminuoso> heh
<fendor> I think I have asked before, but is it a zoom or nixos bug, when I try to share the screen, I get eventually only a black screen and other users can't see the shared screen anymore
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<urkk> > pow = with lib; x: n: fold (a: b: a*b) 1 (map (a: x) (range 1 n))
<{^_^}> pow defined
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<urkk> > pow 2 3
<{^_^}> 8
<V> > pow 2 1.5
<{^_^}> value is a float while an integer was expected, at /var/lib/nixbot/nixpkgs/master/repo/lib/lists.nix:303:7
<V> unsurprising
<urkk> yeah, is only for integers
<mananamenos> Hi, I use this file https://www.codepile.net/pile/0oyr0jkZ. Once in the shell, I start emacs from that shell `emacs &`. Inside emacs's eshell i can run command `npx`, `npm` etc. However any emacs extension's call to stuff like `npx whatever` does not work, reporting the message no such file or directory.
<urkk> > pow 1.5 3
<{^_^}> 3.375
<urkk> well, at least the exponent
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #103678 → forkstat: 0.02.15 -> 0.02.16 → https://git.io/JkYLa
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq opened pull request #103679 → vgrep: 2.5.0 -> 2.5.1 → https://git.io/JkYLr
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos merged pull request #103595 → chromium: 86.0.4240.193 -> 86.0.4240.198 → https://git.io/Jkqvh
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JkYtL
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @maralorn pushed to haskell-updates « haskell-language-server: Fix build »: https://git.io/JkYtW
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos pushed to release-20.03 « chromium: 86.0.4240.193 -> 86.0.4240.198 »: https://git.io/JkYt8
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<afreak> whats the easiest way to get php72 in nixos, when using unstable channel ?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos merged pull request #102758 → [20.09] chromium, llvm_11: Backport additional patches → https://git.io/JTNDL
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos pushed 14 commits to release-20.09: https://git.io/JkYti
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #103681 → fortune: 3.2.0 -> 3.4.1 → https://git.io/JkYqv
<etu> afreak: Pin the nixos-20.03 channel and pull it from there
<etu> ,pinning afreak
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<afreak> aha, the newest nixos-20.03 has php72 ? so i dont have to pin to any commit, just use newest?
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<afreak> thanks btw
<etu> Yeah, we dropped 7.2 it after the branch off of 20.03 :)
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* etu maintains most of the PHP stuff ;)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq merged pull request #103679 → vgrep: 2.5.0 -> 2.5.1 → https://git.io/JkYLr
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq pushed to master « vgrep: 2.5.0 -> 2.5.1 »: https://git.io/JkYq7
<afreak> nice :) still a lot of old software running on ancient php versions ^^
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @evils opened pull request #103682 → fix some dead meta.homepage entries → https://git.io/JkYm3
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<urkk> is there any optional inherit operation? a = extra: { fixed=1; another=4; } // { optionalInherit (extra) this that another; }
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<urkk> a { that=3; another=7; } ---> {fixed=1; that=3; another=7; }
<urkk> a { that=3; another=7; unused=8; } ---> {fixed=1; that=3; another=7; }
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #103684 → geekbench: 5.2.5 -> 5.3.0 → https://git.io/JkYsv
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gytis-ivaskevicius closed pull request #85350 → Fix: ulauncher paths finding → https://git.io/Jffes
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @wucke13 opened pull request #103687 → jstest-gtk: init at master → https://git.io/JkYZ4
<infinisil> > { a = 0; } // lib.optionalAttrs true { b = 1; }
<{^_^}> { a = 0; b = 1; }
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<infinisil> urkk: ^
<urkk> > lib.optionalAttrs true { b = 1; }
<{^_^}> { b = 1; }
<urkk> > { dontoverride=1; } // { dontoverride=7; }
<{^_^}> { dontoverride = 7; }
<urkk> infinisil: I want to keep some fixed values
<infinisil> Well then don't override the fixed values
<infinisil> Or use (optionalAttrs .. // { fixed = ...; })
<etu> > let fixed = { dontoverride = 1 }; in { othervariable = 2; inherit (fixed) dontoverride; }
<{^_^}> error: syntax error, unexpected '}', expecting ';', at (string):357:32
<etu> > let fixed = { dontoverride = 1; }; in { othervariable = 2; inherit (fixed) dontoverride; }
<{^_^}> { dontoverride = <CODE>; othervariable = 2; }
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<urkk> The fixed set may contain dontoverride optionally
<urkk> I came up with this
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<urkk> > genNullAttr = l: genAttrs l (name: null)
<{^_^}> error: undefined variable 'genAttrs' at (string):126:19
<urkk> > genNullAttr = l: lib.genAttrs l (name: null)
<{^_^}> genNullAttr defined
<urkk> > optionalInherit = l: a: with lib; filterAttrs (n: v: v!=null) (overrideExisting (genNullAttr l) a)
<{^_^}> optionalInherit defined
<urkk> > {fixed=7;} // optionalInherit [ "a" "b" ] { a=1; b=2; c=3; fixed=-1; }
<{^_^}> { a = 1; b = 2; fixed = 7; }
<urkk> > {} // optionalInherit [ "a" "b" ] { a=1; b=2; c=3; fixed=-1; }
<{^_^}> { a = 1; b = 2; }
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed 3 commits to progress-bar: https://git.io/JkYno
<wucke13> I have a tricky question regarding an autotools build: The build fails while running autreconf with `error: possibly undefined macro: AS_IF`. What could be the reason?
<dminuoso> wucke13: pkg-config missing?
<wucke13> dminuoso: Unfortunately not, I have autoreconfHook & pkg-config in the nativeBuildInputs
<dminuoso> Gotta admit, that's quite a diagnostic
<dminuoso> "This is *possibly* undefined"
<wucke13> Yep
<wucke13> If looked into the ACLOCAL_PATH and it seems that everything is at its place, pkg-config, libtool, ...
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @erictapen merged pull request #103676 → tor-browser-bundle-bin: 10.0.2 -> 10.0.4 → https://git.io/JkYTb
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<juboba> hey!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #103688 → fahviewer: 7.6.13 -> 7.6.21 → https://git.io/JkYc6
<coco> I upgraded from NixOS 20.03 to 20.09. I'm using i3, and when I reload i3, then volumeicon crashes with the error "The error was 'RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter)" (full output can be seen here: https://gist.github.com/corsinpfister/0c87c08c0729fddb69526400dd1c5c40). I have the same problem with network-manager-applet and blueman-applet, but seafile-applet seems to be fine. I have no idea
<coco> what the problem is. Any hints?
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<teto> how hard would it be to tweak the official nix installer to install unstable instead ?has anyone done it before ?
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<teto> coco I believe an i3 update was merged recently to fix an i3 issue with the tray. Make sure you have the latest i3
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @erictapen pushed commit from @chkno to release-20.03 « tor-browser-bundle-bin: Fix extension path. Fixes NoScript. »: https://git.io/JkYC4
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @erictapen pushed commit from @xaverdh to release-20.03 « tor-browser-bundle-bin: 10.0.2 -> 10.0.4 »: https://git.io/JkYCX
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @erictapen pushed commit from @xaverdh to release-20.09 « tor-browser-bundle-bin: 10.0.2 -> 10.0.4 »: https://git.io/JkYCQ
<coco> teto: Oh, indeed. nixos-20.09 is on 14.8.2, while nixos-unstable is on 14.8.3 (with that fix). Newbie question: Can I remain on nixos-20.09 but somehow use i3 from nixos-unstable, or in any other way get i3 14.8.3 in a declarative way?
<dminuoso> yes
<dminuoso> So you can just do something simple as
<dminuoso> let unstable = import <nixos-unstable> {}; in { config = { services.xserver.windowManager.i3.enableservices.xserver.windowManager.i3.enable = true; services.xserver.windowManager.i3.packages = unstable.i3; }; }
<dminuoso> Assuming you have a channel named nixos-unstable
<coco> dminuoso: Great, thanks!
<coco> So, if I add an nixos-unstable channel, I will have more than one channel. when I run nixos-rebuild, how do I know which channel it will use?
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<dminuoso> That's actually a good question... I always assumed it would default to the one named `nixos`
<dminuoso> I have multiple channels that way, it seems to work but the question is good.
<dminuoso> coco: Indeed this suggests that the primary channel is whatever is called `nixos`
<coco> dminuoso: Yes, just found that source too :-) I guess you're right, default is whichever is named nixos
<dminuoso> Note, that instead of a channel you can also import nixpkgs via fetchGitHub
<dminuoso> Either way works
<dminuoso> That mechanism is probably a bit better, since it lets you declaratively pin the version
<dminuoso> Rather than relying on some ambient state
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<eyJhb> In what packages are `Please install libavcodec, libavformat, libavutil or disable 'VoIPStream' feature.` located?
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<coco> dminuoso: Awesome, the version with "let unstable = import <nixos-unstable> {}; in" works :-) What would a minimal example with fetchGitHub look like?
<neothefox> how do make buildLinux function run make mrproper?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #103689 → filezilla: 3.50.0 -> 3.51.0 → https://git.io/JkYBL
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<dminuoso> coco: err fetchGit
<coco> dminuoso: Cool, thanks a bunch :-)
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<dminuoso> coco: You could also use fetchFromGitHub equivalently if you wanted to
<dminuoso> But, for your case, that's probably brittle
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xwvvvvwx opened pull request #103697 → go-ethereum: 1.9.23 -> 1.9.24 → https://git.io/JkYa2
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xwvvvvwx closed pull request #103697 → go-ethereum: 1.9.23 -> 1.9.24 → https://git.io/JkYa2
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #103698 → intel-gmmlib: 20.3.2 -> 20.3.3 → https://git.io/JkYap
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #103673 → dump1090: 3.8.1 -> 4.0 → https://git.io/JkYUe
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JkYV3
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #103681 → fortune: 3.2.0 -> 3.4.1 → https://git.io/JkYqv
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JkYV6
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @raboof opened pull request #103699 → dunnart: init at 2016-02-02 → https://git.io/JkYVP
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<raboof> it seems 'pastebinit' (for uploading to pastebin sites from the command-line) is a bit outdated. Is that because everyone has moved on to better alternatives, or is it worth reviving?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @erictapen merged pull request #103134 → librdf_raptor2: add patch for CVE-2017-18926 → https://git.io/JkfcB
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @erictapen pushed commit from @mweinelt to master « librdf_raptor2: add patch for CVE-2017-18926 »: https://git.io/JkYrU
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @erictapen pushed commit from @mweinelt to release-20.09 « librdf_raptor2: add patch for CVE-2017-18926 »: https://git.io/JkYrM
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<siraben> Is there a guide on how to add a new set of packages to Nixpkgs? https://github.com/cyclone-scheme/cyclone-winds
<siraben> I'm thinking of how Haskell/Python/Agda/Coq/OCaml etc. packages were added en masse
<simpson> They're all different. The biggest question is whether they export a single coherent data set which represents a working snapshot of most packages. Haskell does and Python doesn't, for example.
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<siraben> I see.
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<siraben> Is there a tool to automatically generate the meta.platforms attribute of a new package?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Technical27 opened pull request #103701 → wofi: 1.2.1 -> 1.2.3 → https://git.io/JkY6e
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<simpson> No, and AFAICT it's meant to be filled in manually according to each package's needs.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @buckley310 opened pull request #103702 → gnomeExtensions.dash-to-panel: 39 -> 40 → https://git.io/JkY6E
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andir merged pull request #103637 → microcodeIntel: 20201110 -> 20201112 → https://git.io/JkqA3
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andir pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JkY6r
<siraben> Ok. Sometimes I wonder if I'm being too broad or narrow when I write meta.platforms.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #103703 → gmsh: 4.6.0 -> 4.7.0 → https://git.io/JkYiu
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JkYPe
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @JJJollyjim opened pull request #103704 → vte-ng: update patches to apply on vte 0.62 → https://git.io/JkYPE
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @freezeboy opened pull request #103705 → Add plik → https://git.io/JkYX2
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mweinelt opened pull request #103707 → [20.03] microcodeIntel: 20200616 -> 20201112 → https://git.io/JkY1q
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mweinelt opened pull request #103708 → [20.09] microcodeIntel: 20200616 -> 20201112 → https://git.io/JkY1Z
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<magnetophon> I have about 60GB in the store, with only 10 days of generations. I have deleted all "result" folders. How can I make more space / how can I find what is taking so much space?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @TredwellGit opened pull request #103710 → xorg: fix update generation → https://git.io/JkYyv
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<magnetophon> hexa-, thanks. I thought I had done everything on that page, but found some new (to me) stuff there.
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<hexa-> awesome
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #103711 → gnugrep: 3.5 -> 3.6 → https://git.io/JkY9v
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @TredwellGit opened pull request #103712 → xorg.xkbcomp: 1.4.2 -> 1.4.4 → https://git.io/JkY9J
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<Jezhehim[m]> This may be a daft question, but is there any major problem with setting ownership of `/etc/nixos` to my regular user account instead of root?
<Jezhehim[m]> I'm not clear on the security consequences, though I guess you still need to be root to run `nixos-rebuild switch`
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<fgaz> i think many people do that
<fgaz> myself included
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #103713 → haproxy: 2.2.4 -> 2.3.0 → https://git.io/JkYHE
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mweinelt opened pull request #103714 → festival: init at 2.5.0; python3Packages.phonemizer: init at 2.2.1 → https://git.io/JkYHS
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @kampka opened pull request #103715 → python3: Fix clang / llvm build with optimizations → https://git.io/JkYH9
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<pumpy> anyone know why the alacritty module config: bell = {animation = "Linear"; color = "#ff0000" duration = 100;}; doesn't work? when i press backspace there's no visible flash. same config on openbsd does tho
<pumpy> (using home manager)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @raboof opened pull request #103716 → pastebinit: fix basic usage → https://git.io/JkYQS
<jtojnar> etu: do you think there is a nice way to override libxml2 for just php extensions?
<expelledboy> Jezhehim[m]: other users on your system wont have access, not an issue if you are the only user. Perhaps also some services
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<jtojnar> want to reproduce a bug and do not want to rebuild the world
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<etu> jtojnar: I guess you can override things in php.extensions somehow, a bit like with python, not super simple
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @WilliButz opened pull request #103717 → nixos/codimd: add package option, refactor prettyJSON → https://git.io/JkYdN
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @qrevel opened pull request #103718 → awscli2: fix completion → https://git.io/JkYFL
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<pumpy> xrdp need any special setting to allow setting window dimension dynamically? i running xfreerdp i3 and /dynamic-resolution the full screen contents aren't wrapped to fit when switching to tiled and the window becomes narrow
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<tru_tru> c/56
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<lordcirth> Jezhehim[m], I have /etc/nixos/flake.nix symlinked to ~/gitRepos/flake-test/flake.nix, which is much the same in practice
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<Jezhehim[m]> expelledboy lordcirth fgaz cool, thanks 🙂
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @RaghavSood opened pull request #103719 → [20.09] go_1_14: 1.14.11 -> 1.14.12, go_1_15: 1.15.4 -> 1.15.5 → https://git.io/JkYA7
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vdemeester opened pull request #103720 → youtube-dl: 2020.11.01.1 -> 2020.11.12 → https://git.io/JkYx9
<tnks> I've got a puzzle. When I run `unset STACK_IN_NIX_SHELL` as my first command in a `nix-shell` interactive session, my session works as I'd expect. When I put it same unsetting in my `shellHook`, things act up. I know Stack+Nix is non-trivial, but I wouldn't expect `shellHook` to do much more than run the command when I enter the shell. So the fact there's any difference in experience confuses me.
<tnks> I considered that I was accidentally overriding a previous shellHook, but I really don't think that's the case after inspecting environment variables.
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<tnks> I think I have my puzzle diagnosed... not cured, though. I think it has to do with idempotency, and Stack calling nix-shell inside itself.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus pushed to master « linux: 5.10-rc2 -> 5.10-rc3 »: https://git.io/JkYhW
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #103721 → k6: 0.28.0 -> 0.29.0 → https://git.io/JkYh5
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<veleiro> How can I query hydra for the lastest version of a package built?
<veleiro> i'm looking for the right nixpkgs commit to pin
<Jezhehim[m]> that seems like maybe something that {^_^} should be able to do, but i don't know how
<Jezhehim[m]> is there some documentation somewhere of the commands the bot rrecognises?
* Jezhehim[m] rreally needs to get round to re-soldering the 'r' key on their keyboard...
<veleiro> who is {^_^} ? lol
<dutchie> you can pm it with ,help
<dutchie> veleiro: a bot
<Jezhehim[m]> oh, i can pm it and not have to bother the channel? i didn't even know that...
<dutchie> yeah a lot of irc bots will respond in pm to avoid channel spam
<Jezhehim[m]> let's see if it works from matrix too...
<veleiro> hmm
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @RaghavSood opened pull request #103722 → go_1_14: 1.14.11 -> 1.14.12 → https://git.io/JkOev
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-20.09 advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/3090c650411 (from 18 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-20.09)
<{^_^}> [nix] @roberth opened pull request #4257 → Issue 4197 nix build output order → https://git.io/JkOeK
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #103724 → icewm: 1.9.0 -> 1.9.2 → https://git.io/JkOe9
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @erictapen opened pull request #103725 → fontconfig: build manpages, install them in bin output → https://git.io/JkOex
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed to staging-next « webkitgtk: 2.30.1 → 2.30.2 »: https://git.io/JkOeh
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<tpw_rules> so i have this proprietary binary library that requires LOCALE_ARCHIVE to be set correctly or some parts of it don't work. i can set that in my shell, but is there a better way to ensure i (and other users) can't forget it? not too sure how the whole mechanism wrks
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm closed pull request #98257 → nixos/activation: fix type for activationScripts and userActivationScripts → https://git.io/JUETr
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zimbatm merged pull request #99546 → octant: init at 0.16.0 → https://git.io/JU5pg
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zimbatm pushed commit from @06kellyjac to master « octant: init at 0.16.0 (#99546) »: https://git.io/JkOvw
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<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @github-actions[bot] pushed commit from GitHub Actions to master « Update flake.lock and blogs.xml [ci skip] »: https://git.io/JkOvX
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<JJJollyjim> how do you run an opengl app on non-nixos linux?
<JJJollyjim> it feels like there must be a workaround here, but idk what it is
<jtojnar> etu: I tried this but it is not enough, the old libxml2 is still is pulled in by something https://github.com/jtojnar/graby-double-images/blob/26b5fc9457d705936ba7d825178406a73d8ac5c4/flake.nix#L46-L56
<jtojnar> I suspect it is from php itself since it did not rebuild when I called replaceLibxml on it
<pumpy> using home manager, anyone know why the alacritty module config: bell = {animation = "Linear"; color = "#ff0000" duration = 100;}; doesn't work? when i press backspace there's no visible flash. same config on openbsd does tho
<veleiro> is there a way to show what build is in progress using nixos-rebuild
<srk> not really, you can use nix-top to check what's currently building
<jtojnar> hmm, looks like I can do `pkgs.php.override { libxml2 = pkgs.libxml2-old; })`
<veleiro> oh thanks! that sounds similar
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dywedir merged pull request #103701 → wofi: 1.2.1 -> 1.2.3 → https://git.io/JkY6e
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dywedir pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JkOfV
<cirno-999> JJJollyjim: nixGL?
<V> ^
<Ke> so nixos-20.09 has linux-testing, but it's not up to date, is this on purpose?
<veleiro> nix-top now this is better
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<tpw_rules> JJJollyjim: use nixGL
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<JJJollyjim> ty
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #103726 → jotta-cli: 0.7.33634 -> 0.7.35160 → https://git.io/JkOJ4
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #103669 → zfsUnstable: 2.0.0-rc5 -> 2.0.0-rc6 → https://git.io/Jkmjp
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed to master « zfsUnstable: 2.0.0-rc5 -> 2.0.0-rc6 »: https://git.io/JkOUf
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #103645 → vimPlugins.neuron-vim: 2020-10-29 -> 2020-11-11 → https://git.io/Jkmtz
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JkOUi
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<pumpy> why doesn't bash send \a (bell) when pressing backspace? it does on other OS
<cole-h> Configuration.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer opened pull request #103727 → zathura: 0.4.5 -> 0.4.7 → https://git.io/JkOTL
<pumpy> how do we configure it?
<DigitalKiwi> alacritty doesn't even support audible bells :<
<pumpy> ya it does
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<pumpy> i have it working on another OS right now
<DigitalKiwi> that's new to me
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer opened pull request #103728 → Provide libwpe for webkitgtk in Wayland → https://git.io/JkOTs
<pumpy> ya might be
<pumpy> how can we make nixos bash send bell on backspace?
<DigitalKiwi> when i looked into it the dev was like "why would a terminal make sound lolol" like we're crazy
<DigitalKiwi> luckily my phone irc client gives me notifications :|
<pumpy> sounds like a pretty 'new' dev
<cole-h> No
<cole-h> Alacritty just doesn't want "fluff"
<cole-h> Though you can run a command on bell (which means you can play a sound with it) in a recent update.
<pumpy> ya that's what i do but i also have screen animation for a visual bell
<pumpy> problem is nixos bash doesn't enable sending bell \a
<pumpy> dont see an option for enabling it
<DigitalKiwi> doesn't want fluff, has 765 yaml config file
<pumpy> haha
<cole-h> Most of which is comments
<cole-h> But yes, config is fluff
<V> has *autoreload*
<cole-h> Yes
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<cole-h> btw, total lines without comments: 172
<pumpy> DigitalKiwi ya and i have that configured. and it's working on another OS but not nixos
<cole-h> Most of which is bindings
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<DigitalKiwi> (i'm not actually that mad about the config it's just funny juxtaposition)
<DigitalKiwi> but clearly it should be dhall instead of yaml
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<cole-h> (I don't agree it's a juxtaposition when 172 of those lines are actually valid config and not documentation, and of those 172, just over half are keybindings)
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<DigitalKiwi> anyway i use alacritty almost exclusively, i like it, and it's nice that it can actually be configured to make a noise now...but it was really dissappointing that it was missing something as important (to me at least) as a bell and the dev was just like nahhh
<pumpy> ill bet it was UndeadLeech. he's a huge piece of shit
<DigitalKiwi> at least it wasn't the level of response as the calibre dev to RCE :|
<pumpy> rude, insulting
<Yaniel> speaking of which, has anyone managed to convince Dolphin to open alacritty via the "open terminal here" shortcut instead of konsole
<cole-h> While he may be principled in how he runs the project, I don't think that qualifies calling him a pile of turd.
<cole-h> (This should probably -> #nixos-chat if we want to go any further)
<Yaniel> (it definitely should)
<pumpy> cole-h unprincipled you mean, don't twist my words
<pumpy> np
<pumpy> so why isn't nixos bash sending \a?
<pumpy> if i printf '\a' alacritty runs the visual bell like i expect, but not otherwise
<pumpy> and on other platforms, hitting backspace on empty prompt sends bell/flashes
<pumpy> same bash, same alacritty
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #103729 → jetty: 9.4.31.v20200723 -> 9.4.34.v20201102 → https://git.io/JkOIW
<DigitalKiwi> Yaniel: there seem to be a few plugins that open other terminals
<pumpy> hm is there any way to get a more raw output of what bash is doing? since 'printf '\a'' does make visual bell im *assuming* it doesn't when i press backspace but who knows maybe it is?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jcumming opened pull request #103730 → WIP: bluespec unstable-2020.02.09 -> unstable-2020.11.04 → https://git.io/JkOIu
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<simpson> DigitalKiwi: Hm. Now I'm wondering how much effort it would be to have NixOS system tests which check to see whether certain exploits work.
<DigitalKiwi> i'm not sure if they work though :<
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<simpson> Well, not just in this case. Like, when we do security updates for popular daemons, how do we know that NixOS is no longer vulnerable after the update?
<simpson> Should I take this to #nixos-security?
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<DigitalKiwi> ah yeah i got it to work :D
<DigitalKiwi> Yaniel: so to your question; yes
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<DigitalKiwi> simpson: man i can't even run my own code half the time on nixos i think we're safe
<simpson> DigitalKiwi: Ha! FWIW I checked and we do have a couple tests that check for specific CVEs, but nothing that might e.g. set up Metasploit and run a full battery against Apache or whatever.
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<DigitalKiwi> not at all upset i spent hours trying to get this to work today https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/74999
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<{^_^}> #74999 (by aske, 49 weeks ago, open): qtspim: init at 722
<DigitalKiwi> in addition to the hours i spent in the past trying to get qtspim to work :<
<simpson> Ugh, emulators are the worst. Because their functionality is so non-modular, it's hard to take incremental steps to get them packaged; either everything or nothing works.
<DigitalKiwi> it segfaults just trying to launch it
<pumpy> simpson how could they modularize to be easier?
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<Yaniel> ahh, mips emulators
<Taneb> On the vague subject of emulators I would like a version of vbam that has the full GUI
<DigitalKiwi> Yaniel: ctrl+shift+, go to services, click download services, search for your preferred terminal
<DigitalKiwi> and if someone hasn't done one just copy one it's just a desktop file
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<Yaniel> kinda counterintuitive
<simpson> pumpy: It's in the nature of emulators to provide a hard thick layer between two computational regimes. It's the sort of thing which doesn't modularize easily, if at all.
<Yaniel> since it has a generic "Open Terminal here" and you can set the default terminal in system settings
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<simpson> (You can check out nixpkgs' handling of Retroarch for a good example of how we *do* take advantage of modularity when it's available.)
<DigitalKiwi> Nov 13 18:26:08 mvp-nixos xsession[32442]: file:///nix/store/7gq5g099mfk10mxxa3rs4plib05bn4m3-plasma-desktop-5.18.5/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.taskmanager/contents/ui/Task.qml:285:5: QML Connections: Implicitly defined onFoo properties in Connections are deprecated. Use this syntax instead: function onFoo(<arguments>) { ... }
<DigitalKiwi> i'm more annoyed by that ;_;
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<Yaniel> lol now I have both "Open Alacritty here" and "Open Terminal Here"
<Yaniel> and I can't disable just one of the two
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<srenatus> hey there. I've checked out the nixpkgs repo, changed a package definition's version (wabt), and tried to run `nix-env --option sandbox true -i wabt -f .` (from the nixpkgs checkout). I ended up having an installed new version of the tool in question; but what I had expected is some kind of failure because I hadn't updated the sha256 value. I feel
<srenatus> like I'm missing something basic about how the shasums with fetchFromGithub work...
<DigitalKiwi> Yaniel: have you tried ranger
<pumpy> simpson ya, seems like a tough problem. even if the components of the emu are modular, it's probably lib code and not the binary you're trying to package. for the emu binary itself to be modular, having multiple separate binaries, would make the emu even slower. right?
<DigitalKiwi> journalctl |grep -c Task.qml
<DigitalKiwi> 9456
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<simpson> pumpy: Sort of! There's an analog of Conway's Law for compilers and emulators: They're partially like the host system, partially like the target system. For example, different chips can often have different emulation modules.
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<pumpy> ty
<Yaniel> DigitalKiwi: I don't really have a need for a TUI file browser
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<DigitalKiwi> 3448 total <-- wc -l ~/.config/ranger lol
<DigitalKiwi> ...
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<DigitalKiwi> 3 different kinds of files too
<DigitalKiwi> almost makes me want yaml ;')
<judson> srenatus, fetchFromGithub does a slightly surprising thing in that it checks the nix store for a download that matches your sha, IIRC.
<judson> Instead of fetching and then checking, which is what I keep expecting.
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<judson> If it doesn't find a match, it fetches and checks, and that'll error.
<srenatus> judson: huh! I still ended up with 1.0.20 binaries, though, not 1.0.19. (which was the change I had done) -- and no error
<judson> Well, that's why I caveat with "IIRC" :) I know I've seen the "use the cached version" behavior before.
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<srenatus> judson: here's the log -- does it look cached to you? I'm a novice with nix, be warned. :D
<DigitalKiwi> ,tofu
<{^_^}> To get a sha256 hash of a new source, you can use the Trust On First Use model: use probably-wrong hash (for example: 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000), then replace it with the correct hash Nix expected. For inserting 52 0's in vim: <esc>52i0<esc>
<judson> There's also `lib.fakeSha256` which is basically that value.
<lordcirth> oh, interesting
<judson> But it's clearer to me what it does. But you have to add lib to your expression.
<DigitalKiwi> wanna know a trick? you can just replace a few at the beginning with zeros
<lordcirth> Also true
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<srenatus> :D thanks a bunch. that's something to work with. I hadn't thought about the sha being correct for some other version!
<srenatus> still wondering about the resulting binaries, but I'll go try using a probably-surely-wrong hash instead.
<judson> I find that particular behavior surprising all the time. It makes sense when you think it through, but I've gotten caught up on it several times.
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<judson> It looks like your version string is getting passed through to the build somehow, so I think that's how you get that version report.
<DigitalKiwi> are the binaries actually a different version or is it in name only
<judson> Different Q: What's the state of buildGoModule and overrides?
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<srenatus> yeah I've tripped over my own feet here. DigitalKiwi: I hadn't checked anything but the reported version (d'oh)
<srenatus> so, it's fetching stuff. and it failed. thanks again! \o/
<judson> I've got a bunch of tools in a nix-shell where I've basically c&p'd the original expression, and I'd love to just be updating the version and source.
<judson> IIUC, too much happens inside of buildGoModule for that to work generally.
<DigitalKiwi> there are tricks you can do to make sure you don't do it by accident that clever suggested but worldofpeace doesn't like them lol
<judson> What are the tricks?
<DigitalKiwi> make the version part of the derivation path name
<veleiro> where do i find the current system build's nixpkgs commit?
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<srk> veleiro: possibly with cat $( nix-instantiate --find-file nixpkgs )/.git-revision if it comes from channel
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<srk> > pkgs.lib.version
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<{^_^}> "21.03pre-git"
<veleiro> ah, no. it doesnt. pinned
<veleiro> I just want to use the linux already on my machine :(
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<siraben> maralorn: Noticed #103359 got merged, nice! Is HLS going to be bumped to 0.6.0?
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/103359 (by maralorn, 2 days ago, merged): haskellPackages.haskell-language-server: Fix build
<__monty__> judson: The builtin fetchers like fetchTarball always download (excepting fetchUrl?) which is the more surprising gotcha IMO, slows down nix-shells that use them by a lot.
<__monty__> veleiro: How can you not know the revision if you've pinned nixpkgs? The revision is a prerequisite for pinning.
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<veleiro> because i didnt commit that pin to git when i built the kernel i have
<veleiro> i believe
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<ar> /30
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<DigitalKiwi> __monty__: yolo; sudo nix-channel --list
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<__monty__> DigitalKiwi: That's not pinning though? In two ways, it's master so you wouldn't be pinning anything and it's a channel, so it's not pinning ; p
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<DigitalKiwi> it makes life interesting
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<DigitalKiwi> haskellPackages.haskell-language-server haskell-language-server-0.6.0.0
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<DigitalKiwi> siraben: it's in haskell-updates branch
<DigitalKiwi> so should hit nixos-unstable soonish?
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<georgyo[m]> Also, this extracts and then re-packs the packages, which isn't the most efficient.
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<{^_^}> [nix] @matthewbauer reopened pull request #2504 → Use nativeBuildInputs for nix-shell → https://git.io/fxbFA
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<DigitalKiwi> it's usually on nixos-unstable but i usually use -I nixpkgs= a git repo
<Jezhehim[m]> ,locate lspci
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<{^_^}> Found in packages: toybox, busybox, pciutils
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<georgyo[m]> Something like `scp -3`
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<stites[m]1> quick question! how do I override a systemd service?
<srk> override how?
<srk> like you can do something like systemd.services.eternal-terminal.serviceConfig.OOMScoreAdjust = "-999";
<srk> to change part of it
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<stites[m]1> nevermind! I was just looking for mkForce!
<kalbasit> What's the best way to create '/tmp' in the image generated with dockerTools.buildLayeredImage?
<clever> kalbasit: id just use mkdir in the entry-point script
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<kalbasit> clever: makes sense. Do you recommend the same thing to create and use a user that isn't root?
<pumpy> why doesn't nixos bash send \a (bell) when pressing backspace? it does on other OS. how can i configure that pls? alacritty isn't making a visual bell flash animation but it does if i enter `printf '\a'` to the terminal prompt manually
<ToxicFrog> pumpy: I believe that's controlled by readline; what is your readline `bell-style` setting in inputrc?
<clever> kalbasit: username doesnt really mean much when in docker
<chipb> in addition to that, there might also be a way it gets filtered at the tty level. perhaps look at stty?
<clever> pumpy: double-check what `tput bel` says
<clever> that should print the magic char, and respect what $TERM says
<chipb> clever: oo. that's er...clever...too.
<clever> ive found that it rarely beeps for me on nixos
<clever> kernel issues
<maralorn> siraben: Yes, hls 0.6.0 will hit master this evening.
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<pumpy> ToxicFrog i dont have an inputrc file. on my openbsd system that has bash/alacritty working fine with the same config, it does have an inputrc but it only sets editing-mode vi. nothing about bell-style
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<pumpy> chipb how can i look at stty?
<pumpy> clever is tput bel a command?
<pumpy> clever i entered tput bel command and screen flashed like when i enter printf '\a'
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<clever> pumpy: if the screen is flashing, then the tty isnt filtering it
<DigitalKiwi> nothing happened for me when i did tput bel :(
<clever> DigitalKiwi: depends on what your terminal emulator is
<clever> and if your sound driver routes bells into things
<pumpy> ok think i got it
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<pumpy> ToxicFrog++ im using home manager so i enabled programs.readline and now there's a inputrc file that includes /etc/inputrc which DOES have set bell-style none. MEH
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<DigitalKiwi> xterm, alacritty, konsole, lxterminal :(
<pumpy> chipb++
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<clever> let me check my notes...
<pumpy> clever++
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<DigitalKiwi> so my bet is on sound driver?
<ToxicFrog> DigitalKiwi: or they all forward to your DE's event-sound mapper and that's configured not to have a sound for it
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<ToxicFrog> DigitalKiwi: if you're on KDE look in audio->applications->notification sounds volume and accessibility->bell first of all, I think
<clever> /run/current-system/kernel-modules/lib/modules/5.4.64/kernel/drivers/input/misc/pcspkr.ko.xz
<clever> [root@amd-nixos:~]# find -L /run/current-system/kernel-modules/ | grep spkr
<clever> ah, thats the one
<clever> modprobe that, and now `tput bel` makes the speaker on the mobo beep
<clever> {^_^} also triggers it every time a /notice happens, so thats why i dont keep it loaded
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<pumpy> DigitalKiwi you have bell working now?
<DigitalKiwi> no
<Taneb> I'm trying to install Steam on my laptop and I'm getting an error building '/nix/store/br7dpiiaqx8dlilqlgzx9xdp4aw6dpkb-libsteam-runtime-tools-0-0.deb.drv'... curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 40
<Taneb> 4
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<cizra> Help! fprintd-thinkpad no longer works :( I'm supposed to be able to specify services.fprintd.package = pkgs.fprintd-thinkpad; and it'll grab the version that depends on libfprint-thinkpad - but nixos-rebuild switch says "error: attribute 'fprintd-thinkpad' missing". It used to work. What went wrong?
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<cizra> When I use the overlay from https://github.com/cizra/libfprint-thinkpad-overlay everything works perfectly. It even works perfectly when I copy fresh package/service definitions from nixpkgs master into my overlay. However, nixpkgs shows fprintd-thinkpad package correctly in all-packages.nix, which stymies me to no end.
<DigitalKiwi> cizra: pkgs.fprintd; instead
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<DigitalKiwi> got removed between 20.03 and 20.09 hm
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<cizra> DigitalKiwi: hmmm what - I have a Thinkpad and it requires a specific driver.
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<DigitalKiwi> presumably it might not be needed anymore
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<cizra> How embarrassing, my upstream was set to the wrong repo so I didn't see the removal. Regardless, it doesn't work on my Lenovo P50. What's the plan: live without fingerprints, file a bug, reimplement, or use an overlay?
<DigitalKiwi> if it were me i'd try to fix it and get it back into nixpkgs, at a minimum file an issue if i couldn't
<catern> is there a way to disable ~/.config/nixpkgs/config.nix customizations when evaluating a Nix file that contains "import <nixpkgs> {}"? an environment variable perhaps?
<DigitalKiwi> and in the meantime use an overlay or w/e workaround
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<cizra> DigitalKiwi: Thanks for the help. Filed #103739
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/103739 (by cizra, 25 seconds ago, open): Fingerprint support for Lenovo P50 was reverted
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<aanderse> did anyone want to join the nixos 20.09 retrospective chat?
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<DigitalKiwi> aanderse: what's that
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<aanderse> a chat that @jonringer wanted to have
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @06kellyjac opened pull request #103741 → open-policy-agent: move to go modules → https://git.io/JkO8g
<DigitalKiwi> because september was like 54 days long this year?
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<aanderse> ha ha ha yeah
* DigitalKiwi doesn't actually care i live in the future
<jonringer> If anyone participated with the 20.09 release, please join us https://meet.google.com/yzv-ynuw-fjb
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<jonringer> that was one of the topics of discussion
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<DigitalKiwi> i think they're arbitray anyway like ...it's ready when it's ready, no sense rushing out a broken release just to have it
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<DigitalKiwi> a lot of us do a ton of unpaid labor lol no sense burning out :P
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<DigitalKiwi> jonringer++
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<hexa-> ,locate bss_file.c
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<{^_^}> Couldn't find in any packages
<Henson> DigitalKiwi: thanks!
<lordcirth> A game I just got requires libkeyutils 1.5. steam-run has 1.4. So does steam-run built from master. What's the best way to get a steam-run with 1.5?
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<gchristensen> say I have a system with two disks with grub/mbr on them. is it possible to know what disk the bootloader was run from?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @7c6f434c merged pull request #101933 → julia: init at 1.5 → https://git.io/JT1Tb
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @7c6f434c pushed commit from @cstich to master « julia: init at 1.5 (#101933) »: https://git.io/JkORJ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak opened pull request #103744 → openocd: unstable-2020-09-02 -> unstable-2020-11-11 → https://git.io/JkORY
<jared-w> gchristensen: does `fdisk -l` show two drives with the boot asterisk?
<gchristensen> neither do!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @06kellyjac opened pull request #103745 → starboard-octant-plugin: init at 0.4.0 → https://git.io/JkORW
<gchristensen> ehh actually I'm pretty sure it is xvda: https://gist.github.com/grahamc/1a2283c89c325f7d7f7430e020cbfa01
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<vsiddharth> Hey! I have a flake file where I describe multiple packages which are built with different overlays on nixpkgs. Does anyone know how to describe a different devShell for each package output?
<jared-w> xvda? Sounds like aws, in which case it's always xvda that's used as the main drive. (I took advantage of that to hack in using cdk to resize the main drive rather than trying to shenanigans multiple drives and get docker to use the second one for volumes/etc)
<jared-w> (well, "always" is a strong word. It's true in my case when using amazon linux VMs, but that probably doesn't mean a whole lot in your case)
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<Claas> Hi, I'm trying to debug a `nextcloud-client` segmentation fault on nixos-unstable, but I'm struggling to build the package with `enableDebugging`. Any tips?
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<Claas> I tried `nix-build -E 'with import <nixpkgs> {}; enableDebugging nextcloud-client'` but that doesn't work.
<NemesisD> can nix build one job on multiple builders?
<NemesisD> i've got a build nix build to do and i'm basically trying to summon every machine i have ssh access to to build it like a spirit bomb
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<akavel> Hi! With flakes, `nix build` gives me only last 10 lines of failed build; can I somehow get full log?
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<manveru> akavel: `nix -L build`
<akavel> manveru: woohoo, cool, thanks! <3
<manveru> though you'll have to modify one of the files to avoid the cached failure
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<akavel> ohhhh, the logs will show up cached? so it won't rebuild? if yes, that's actually cool! :D
<akavel> hm, I think (it looks like) it rebuilds; probably because my git repo is dirty
<manveru> well, it will rebuild if it's a build failure but not if it's an evaluation failure i think
<akavel> um; what is an evaluation failure?
<manveru> a syntax error for example
<akavel> ok, thx
<jbal[m]> Anyone get .net 5 sdk working with omnisharp yet?
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<akavel> next question: if I built something with cmake, how to make sure the artifacts are visible via pkg-config for another flake?
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<akavel> I seem to remember there was some wrapper in "classic nix", though I don't recall now how it was used; will have to google around, but if someone remembers, I'd be grateful!
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<catern> akavel: you mean a wrapper to automatically create a pkg-config file from a cmake build? or something to make pkg-config files visible to a cmake build? the latter, if you include pkg-config as a dep, it just happens automatically through setup hooks
<catern> (don't know about the former)
<Claas> Why does this debug build not work?```console$ nix-build -E 'with import <nixpkgs> {}; enableDebugging nextcloud-client'error: anonymous function at /nix/store/xn1zj88x7j1a85d4rsywlzfyb7sbr9a6-nixos-20.09.1758.3090c650411/nixos/pkgs/applications/networking/nextcloud-client/default.nix:1:1 called with unexpected argument 'stdenv', at
<Claas> /nix/store/xn1zj88x7j1a85d4rsywlzfyb7sbr9a6-nixos-20.09.1758.3090c650411/nixos/lib/customisation.nix:69:16```
<Claas> Why does this debug build not work?$ nix-build -E 'with import <nixpkgs> {}; enableDebugging nextcloud-client'error: anonymous function at /nix/store/xn1zj88x7j1a85d4rsywlzfyb7sbr9a6-nixos-20.09.1758.3090c650411/nixos/pkgs/applications/networking/nextcloud-client/default.nix:1:1 called with unexpected argument 'stdenv', at
<Claas> /nix/store/xn1zj88x7j1a85d4rsywlzfyb7sbr9a6-nixos-20.09.1758.3090c650411/nixos/lib/customisation.nix:69:16
<akavel> catern: automatically create pkg-config file from cmake build; hm, maybe it might also happen automatically, but I confused buildInputs and nativeBuildInputs (I always have to read up to re-learn what's the difference)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @landakram opened pull request #103748 → chicken: support darwin platform → https://git.io/JkOuS
<akavel> catern: nah, no auto-magic apparently here, will have to google more
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<lamoon> Hi, is there any way to append (prepend, actually) text files in /etc/pam.d/? security.pam.services.<name>.text will overwrite the entire file if <name> already exists (without warning, even so)
<akavel> catern: hm, actually pkg-config files are already built by the cmake project; so for the other one, should I put `pkg-config` in buildInputs/nativeBuildInputs, or some other attribute?
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<itc-ger> Hi @ll
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<catern> akavel: definitely either buildInputs or nativeBuildInputs - pkg-config is a binary so probably the latter
<akavel> catern: hm weird; I added it (to both), but in `nix develop` shell, `pkg-config --list-all` shows me empty output, $PKG_CONFIG_PATH is also unset; I'll try to look into the setup hook
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<itc-ger> I'm wondering why my PR isn't merged for 25 days. Does anyone have an idea what's wrong: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/101131 ?
<{^_^}> #101131 (by itc-ger, 3 weeks ago, open): keepassrpc: 1.8.0 -> 1.14.0
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #103749 → jmol: 14.31.14 -> 14.31.17 → https://git.io/JkOza
<catern> akavel: make sure the pkg-config files are in the right place? try adding a dep on something you know has pkg-config files
<catern> uhhh like... gtk??
<akavel> catern: good idea, thanks, will try!
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<akavel> catern: yep, that gave much more :D hmmm, in $PKG_CONFIG_PATH, all the packages have `-dev` suffix; can that be important? other than that, `lib/pkgconfig` in all of those, and it's present in the one I'm referencing too :/
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<catern> the -dev suffix just indicates that the packages have multiple outputs (-dev containing headers and -lib or something containing libraries, presumably, for gtk) and the pkg-config files are in the -dev output
<catern> your package doesn't happen to have multiple outputs does it?
<catern> and... lib/pkgconfig contains a .pc file in your package, right?
<akavel> no, and yes :D
<catern> hm from there I'd just look at the pkg-config package and try to run its setup-hook manually and see why it isn't picking up yours
<catern> the setup-hook is at pkgs/build-support/pkg-config-wrapper/setup-hook.sh
<akavel> on it, thanks!
<akavel> by the way, in flakes, how can I find a built flake?
<akavel> I executed `nix flake list-inputs`
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<catern> (can't help with that one, haven't done much with flakes yet myself)
<akavel> how do I see what's in the input?
<akavel> maybe someone else knows...?
<akavel> in "classic nix" I could look into /nix/store/*-foobar/
<akavel> in flakes, is there a way to translate from `list-inputs` -> path in /nix/store?
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<akavel> hmmmmm, my flake input does not seem to get pulled & built at all I think
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @AndersonTorres merged pull request #103694 → kitty: 0.19.1 -> 0.19.2 → https://git.io/JkYuj
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @AndersonTorres pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JkO2g
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #103736 → mill: removing MILL_VERSION variable → https://git.io/JkOG9
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed commit from @scalavision to master « mill: removing MILL_VERSION variable (#103736) »: https://git.io/JkO22
<akavel> after I executed `nix build github:foobar...` by hand, it built; but when it's in `inputs.foobar.url = "...the same..."`, and in `{ stdenv, nixpkgs, foobar }`, the `foobar` doesn't show up in env at all
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<akavel> but it shows ok in `nix flake list-inputs`
<akavel> wtf
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<jasom> maybe OT here, but I'm wonderng why Nix went with "foo = bar;
<jasom> maybe OT here, but I'm wonderng why Nix went with "foo = bar;" over "foo = (bar)"
<jasom> with the parentheses optional when not needed
<infinisil> jasom: Not sure what's the upside of that
<infinisil> Oh, you mean to not have ";"`?
<jasom> infinisil: right; the lists have no token separator, but the sets do. My brain is still not used to that
<infinisil> Ah so this is about lists then
<infinisil> For that, I think Nix should've gone with `[ a, b, c ]`, requiring "," to separate list entries
<jasom> infinisil: Probably my lisp background thinking the exact opposite
<infinisil> I'm still not sure what you're exactly proposing
<jasom> From the wiki: [ 1 ./example.bin { hello="world"; }] instead have [ 1 ./example.bin { hello="world" }]
<ToxicFrog> infinisil: I believe jasom's point is that lists do not require an explicit separator between list elements, but maps require ';'
<jasom> or { key1="value1" key2="value2" }
<ToxicFrog> This is inconsistent; why not remove the requirement for ';'
<infinisil> Ah
<jasom> obviously values that are function calls would then need parenthesizing, where they do not today
<edef> ,locate libstdc++.so.6
<{^_^}> Found in packages: robomongo, gcc-unwrapped.lib
<ToxicFrog> I parenthesize them anyways out of habit
<infinisil> I think the main inconsistency is the other way around, that lists don't require a separator
<infinisil> Because lists currently using " " as a separator is ambiguous with function application
<infinisil> And if attribute sets also don't require a separator, " " can either mean "new list element" "new attribute element" or "function application", depending on context
<akavel> Hmmmmmm; when I put a github repo in flake `inputs.foobar.url`, the `foobar` then refers to the source, not the resulting build... how do I refere to the *build output* of a flake in another flake?
<jasom> infinisil: I know, isn't it great?
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<infinisil> Can't say I agree!
<Claas> If anybody has tips for how to build `nextcloud-client` with `enableDebugging` or `keepDebugInfo`, your help would be appreciated here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/103680#issuecomment-727083270 – I give up for now.
<jasom> Well most popular languages use comma for all 3 of those so having them be the same is more common than having them be different I think.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @GovanifY opened pull request #103750 → ghidra: 9.1.2 -> 9.2 → https://git.io/JkOar
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<infinisil> Btw this would be a discussion for #nix-lang :)
<jasom> aha, thanks
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #103751 → last: 1133 -> 1145 → https://git.io/JkOa9
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<akavel> AAAAHHHHAAAAAAAA....... ok, based on https://zimbatm.com/NixFlakes/, I realized I need to pass whole path do dependency flake in a flake that uses is - basically: `buildInputs = [ foobar.packages.x86_64-linux.foobar ]` - in case anybody gets in the same trouble as me....
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<akavel> catern: see ^^^ for future ;)
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<catern> akavel: and that fixed the pkg-config issue? interesting
<akavel> catern: yep. All was well except just using `foobar` referenced a `/nix/store/....-source/` package
<akavel> I added `preConfigure = ''echo "DEBUG: ${foobar}"''` to check what's going on
<akavel> this made me understand I'm getting just the sources
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<akavel> maybe there's some shorthand like `.out` or something, dunno
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #103752 → kpt: 0.36.1 -> 0.37.0 → https://git.io/JkOV0
<akavel> actually... Nix language probably has some func for printing the names of all attributes, let's see what's there in `foobar`...
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bcdarwin opened pull request #103753 → python3Packages.dipy: 1.2.0 -> 1.3.0 → https://git.io/JkOVD
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @06kellyjac opened pull request #103754 → waypoint: init at 0.1.5 → https://git.io/JkOVy
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