<clever>
glines: at one point, i was controlling said windows machine purely thru synergy (windows/keyboard sharing software), so it had no mouse/keyboard plugged in
<clever>
glines: and i discovered, certain games go nuts when i hit the mouse wheel
* glines
already has a bunch of Japanese arcade buttons hooked up to his teensy
<clever>
the game detected, that no wheeled mouse is present at startup
<clever>
and goes nuts when it gets a wheel event
<avn>
glines: btw, are .so from .jar need to be packed back? (just not sure about jvm' loading order here)
<clever>
glines: but, the teensy claims to be a mouse with a wheel!
<clever>
glines: so i just leave the teensy plugged in 24/7 and it works fine!
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<avn>
if you pack them, you need save rpaths somewhere in $out/nix-support (to let GC see them as references)
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<clever>
glines: then furniture got moved, and it needed to be on a usb extension, so i plugged it into a 1 port hub (an extension with a hub in it), and bam, blue screen of death!!
<clever>
avn: jar's can be made with zero compression, that would let nix find things still, and some stuff like android requires it (it just mmap's the files without unpacking)
<glines>
avn: I thought that nix just scanned for paths linked to before adding them as GC references
<clever>
glines: it scans the contents of $out when the build is finished, and the compression in the jar can mask the paths
<glines>
well, I guess if it is compressed that's a different story... i have no idea
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<glines>
I'm not using any .jar files though :\
<clever>
the above bluescreen, turns out to be a combination of the high power usb charging driver in my mobo, the teensy, and a hub between the pc and teensy
<glines>
when I plug in my teensy, I make a point not to plug it into the high-power charger in my laptop :P
<glines>
I'm afraid it will catch fire
<clever>
amps dont work like that
<glines>
not until there's a short
<clever>
the voltage regulation prevents such issues, when its not shorted
<clever>
yeah
<clever>
i believe the special driver in my mobo, was to detect when a device asks for more current, and cranks up the current limits in the hardware
<clever>
so it can prevent the thing your worried about
<avn>
clever: in .nix gisted above is nothing about (no) compression ;)
<clever>
it wont get that much until it asks for it
<avn>
Although I personally do some things differently, it looks amazing ;)
<clever>
looks like jar 0uvf $out/${jar} ${file} would disable compression for that 1 entry
<clever>
then nix could detect the rpath
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<glines>
oh, actually...
<glines>
I didn't write any of that jar stuff
<glines>
that's part of the arduino IDE installation. that was there before I started adding teensy
<glines>
teensy is just a handful of linux binaries
<clever>
glines: also, my soldering is so rusty, i got a cold joint on my raspberry pi, and managed to drip a huge glob of solder directly onto the decoupling caps under the cpu, the caps the size of a grain of sand :P
<wrl>
glines: remember to heat the component lead, not the solder!!
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<dmj`>
cherry picking peti’s automatic hackage updates should be documented
<glines>
clever: I have a huge bag of header pins from china ;P
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<clever>
glines: i got 4 or 5 rows from sparkfun in one of my last orders, and thats plenty for now
<glines>
so... I see { blah, blah, gtk2 ? null, blah }: in the arguments to this derivation. does that make gtk2 optional?
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<clever>
sorta, it allows gtk2 to default to null if its not supplied
<glines>
the nix manual says that questionmark is for testing containment or something :s
<clever>
but callPackage will always supply it
<glines>
hmm
<clever>
so you would need to use an override to force gtk2 to null
<clever>
so it currently only serves as a hint to people reading the source
<clever>
but if gtk2 ever gets deleted, it will silently build without gtk2, rather then failing
<glines>
I am adding teensyduino to the arduino derivation, but I want all of the teensyduino arguments to be optional /unless/ the option withTeensyduino is true
<clever>
viric_, Dezgeg: got around to confirming it and bingo: ("kernelBaseConfig","multi_v7_defconfig")
<clever>
viric_: oh, and i see something related to your systemd issues too
<gchristensen>
clever: I can't manage to make the test fail
<clever>
gchristensen: without more info on how exactly that host is messing up, it may be imposible to reproduce, but we can reasonably assume it was timing, and that vcs2 checks will solve it
<gchristensen>
you mean vcs1 in this case?
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<gchristensen>
or are we still at terminal 2 at that point?
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<clever>
gchristensen: the login attempt is on tty2 i think
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<rardiol>
how do I tell cmake to include mesa/include and not mesa-noglu/include?
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<Sonarpulse>
hmm I can't fetch cache.nixos.org's /nix/store/2fnz2p0psjkjs8fkfk87pv2l7px20i45-koma-script-3.20
<Sonarpulse>
any idea how I figure out why?
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<clever>
Sonarpulse: what error are you getting?
<clever>
Dezgeg: found a potential solution, you must import <nixpkgs> { platform = platforms.raspberrypi2; }; (or change the default for v7 and break every other v7 platform)
<clever>
adb shell su -c 'echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/wlan0/accept_ra'
<clever>
i typicaly use a command like this, and then cycle the network link
<Sonarpulse>
thanks
<Sonarpulse>
what's adb?
<clever>
in most setups, the router is sending out route advertisement packets
<clever>
and when linux gets one, it will automaticaly add the IP
<Sonarpulse>
I'm on some LTE -> wifi thing
<clever>
in my case, i'm using an ipv6 tunnel, so geolocation my v4 says canadian
<Sonarpulse>
perhaps it claims to support more than it does or smoething
<clever>
but geolocation my v6 says american
<Sonarpulse>
heh
<clever>
netflix thinks i'm trying to pirate content, and just shuts off entirely
<Sonarpulse>
hah
<clever>
so i use the above adb command to neuter ipv6 support in my tablet
<Sonarpulse>
what package is that?
<Sonarpulse>
i need to nix-shell -p adbthing --command I think
<clever>
androidenv.platformTools
<clever>
and its only to remotely run it on an android device
<Sonarpulse>
wait, what?
<clever>
you can omit that part on if you can obtain a root shell normally
<Sonarpulse>
I'm not tethering or anything
<Sonarpulse>
or rather not with my own phone
<clever>
i was using that to disable ipv6 in my tablet, but to disable it in a normal linux machine, just: echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/wlan0/accept_ra
<Sonarpulse>
oh
<Sonarpulse>
ok
<Sonarpulse>
the LTE->wifi thing is not my own, anyways
<Sonarpulse>
hmm still not working
<clever>
double-check "ip addr" to see if you have a v6 addr or not
<clever>
in my case, it would take 86,396 seconds before the ipv6 addr expires on its own and gets removed
<clever>
you can force it early by using "ip addr del" or just bringing the link down and back up
<clever>
and with accept_ra set to 0, it wont return
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<Sonarpulse>
what's the argument?
<Sonarpulse>
addr for route?
<clever>
i think you can just "ip addr del <address> dev <eth0>"
<clever>
and it should automaticaly remove the routes as well
<mckeankylej>
So I just got a new external keyboard and it isnt working by default. Is there a setting in X that I need to activate? Can anyone point me to some literature on handling keyboards in linux? Everything I google for comes up about switching the layout.
<Sonarpulse>
what's really weird is that I can download other substitutions just fine
<clever>
mckeankylej: usb, ps2?
<mckeankylej>
clever: usb
<clever>
mckeankylej: it should just work the instant you plug it in
<mckeankylej>
clever: thanks I will look deeper into if this model has a problem
<clever>
try testing it on another pc if you can
<c74d>
mckeankylej: what output do you get from `lsmod | grep -Fi usb`
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<irctc739>
Hey all, I'm trying to use xpra, which for some reason is double-wrapped (.xpra-wrapped-wrapped) and is not working
<irctc739>
Does anyone know why or how to make it work?
<Sonarpulse>
clever: hah! so I changed the url a bit
<Sonarpulse>
got a 404 cause big hash space
<Sonarpulse>
and then tried the original and it worked
<Sonarpulse>
had to do this again as root, cause nix daemon on nixos
<Sonarpulse>
and then the nix command worked
<Sonarpulse>
guess that reset some state?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] grahamc opened pull request #20808: login test: Create and use direct reads of the TTY contents. (master...fancy-test-tty) https://git.io/v1YQj
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<clever>
Sonarpulse: some cell providers force an http cache/proxy into your link
<clever>
Sonarpulse: and those can be glitchy
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<Sonarpulse>
clever: I guess so!
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<cybertron>
hi, there is many stuff for nixos and vagrant is there any "best practiced one" project?
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] rycee pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/v1YAe
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-16.09 5f40d80 Robert Helgesson: matrix-synapse service: add missing `$`...
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] tohl opened pull request #20809: sbcl and picolisp updates and improvements (master...master) https://git.io/v1Ypp
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<rydnr>
hi!
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<rydnr>
I'm stuck with something that seems easy, but I've been unable to do so far. I want to install a package directly from nixpkgs github repo, since it contains a more recent version than nixos-stable channel. I tried with nix-env -iA [package] -f /path-to-local-nixpkgs
<rydnr>
but it doesn't find the package (idea-ultimate)
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<rydnr>
Does nix-env need to create an index or something beforehand?
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<rly>
Does NixOS have a concept of /etc/environment like Debian?
<rly>
I already wrote a file to /etc/environment, but it seems that it is not integrated.
<rly>
You could argue that /etc/environment is cruft, but some kind of replacement for it would be nice.
<ikwildrpepper>
what does it do on debian?
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<rly>
ikwildrpepper: it provides a shared set of environment variables to all users.
<rly>
ikwildrpepper: there is a restricted language being used too.
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<rly>
ikwildrpepper: it's not a fully shell script. So, you can do like X=1, but not X=$(pwd)
<rly>
ikwildrpepper: essentially X=1 has the effect of doing export X=1.
<rly>
ikwildrpepper: I didn't know it was part of Linux-PAM.
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] peti pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v1OfB
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master fb9f992 Peter Simons: ghc-8.0.2: drop use of the obsolete response file patch...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 2605149 Peter Simons: ghc-8.0.2: cosmetic
<peti>
dmj`: Cherry-picking the automatic commits is not going to suffice. You also need the manual changes to the configuration-xxx.nix files.
<dmj`>
peti: is there a specific commit message pattern I can grep on to aid in determinig what should be cherry-picked
<dmj`>
for configuration-xxx.nix files
<peti>
dmj`: Where do you want to cherry-pick to? release-16.09?
<dmj`>
peti: If I cloned master right now, I just want a way to periodically update the repo for relevant haskell changes, without having to pull in all changes to nixpkgs.
<dmj`>
all changes from nixpkgs*
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<dmj`>
peti: Is there some kind of structure to those commits, i.e. the configuration-xxx.files
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v1OJy
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 07dcc4f Frederik Rietdijk: pythonPackages.Theano: move and rename variants...
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v1Oko
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master e1c1fa6 Matthew Bauer: pugixml: fix darwin build
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 1c0e51e Frederik Rietdijk: Merge pull request #20616 from matthewbauer/pugixml-darwin...
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<rly>
ikwildrpepper: I think for mere mortals it would be useful to have a configuration option to fill /etc/environment which then behind the scenes would do the linux-pam magic (like other distros do).
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<ikwildrpepper>
rly: I've always used environment.sessionVariables for this
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<ikwildrpepper>
looks like that also is meant for this purpose, and is also set by PAM
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<the-kenny>
msd: I'll have a look. Have to fight with Google Play Customer Service right now ;)
<msd>
the-kenny: haha, kk. Take your time :) thanks
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<rly>
ikwildrpepper: attribute set of element or list of stringss <- typo
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<rly>
ikwildrpepper: thanks
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<rly>
ikwildrpepper: does tmux also use those variables?
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<LnL>
ikwildrpepper: what was the issue with the macs?
<ikwildrpepper>
LnL: ?
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<ikwildrpepper>
ah, seems they powered off
<LnL>
ikwildrpepper: oh they are still idle, mac6 built everything
<ikwildrpepper>
LnL: yeah, they are starting up now
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<LnL>
great! :) I think there's an other rebuild on master at the moment
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] the-kenny pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v1Onz
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 705bdce Matthew Daiter: hexRegistrySnapshot: d58a937 -> e5e494a
<bachp>
codedmart (IRC): What do you mean by add your own symlink?
<codedmart>
bachp: for instance I have cjpeg installed but my program expects it to be at cjpeg31. So I would just like to use a symlink from cjpeg to cjpeg31 in my nix-shell dev env.
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<limits>
How can you change the amount of open file descriptors allowed? I tried creating the file /etc/security/limits.conf with the necessary settings, but that did nothing to change the results of `ulimit -n`, neither did setting them with security.pam.loginLimits
<limits>
Nevermind, I replaced type with item and vice versa, the order of the arguments in the limits.conf file did not match the order as was given under the description of security.pam.loginLimits
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] pSub pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v1O98
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 33d49bb Vincent Laporte: ocamlPackages.ocp-index: 1.1.4 -> 1.1.5
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<viric_>
Anyone knows why my logind/journald don't start because of SECCOMP failure?
<viric_>
niksnut: do you happen to know how that works?
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<gchristensen>
niksnut: shoul I just go ahead and merge this? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/20808 it should add stability to the login test, which has been blocking 16.09 from moving forward.
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] grahamc closed pull request #20808: login test: Create and use direct reads of the TTY contents. (master...fancy-test-tty) https://git.io/v1YQj
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to release-16.09: https://git.io/v1Ojy
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-16.09 06a45eb Graham Christensen: login test: Create and use direct reads of the TTY contents....
<magnetophon>
Hi, I'm preparing a PC for my parents. Basically all they need is a link to firefox on the desktop, but I want to provide a smooth bugfree experience for them. Would you recommend gnome3, kde4 kde5 or xfce? (or something else)
<kmicu>
XFCE.
<magnetophon>
kmicu: because it's the lightest?
<kmicu>
B/c it’s simple and does not change on each release.
<kmicu>
Elders do not like changes and relearning stuff.
<magnetophon>
kmicu: that's the killer argument. you know parents! :) thanks.
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<gchristensen>
oh, what the heck, the login test passed :P
<magnetophon>
Does anyone have a "parent PC config" online, where I could copy some systempkgs from? (file manager, photo viewer, etc)
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<viric_>
magnetophon: I ave a "wife pc config" but not online
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<magnetophon>
viric_: would you be willing to paste (part of) it somewhere?
<magnetophon>
goibhniu: Did you ever get around to publishing your remote management script?
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<viric_>
magnetophon: nah, it's a mess of config :)
<goibhniu>
I'm working on a tray icon thing at the moment which checks for updates, I think I'll roll this stuff into it (rather than using kdialog/zenity)
* goibhniu
hopes to have something pretty soon
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<magnetophon>
viric_: OK, thanks anyway. (I'm sure my main config is messier than your wife's, but hey...)
<magnetophon>
goibhniu: cool, thanks!
<magnetophon>
goibhniu: why doesn't it get much use? Is/are your family members not using nixos anymore?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] FRidh pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v13Ts
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 58faa13 Ioannis Koutras: syncthing: 0.14.12 -> 0.14.13
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master d6ffb97 Frederik Rietdijk: Merge pull request #20812 from jokogr/u/syncthing-0.14.13...
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<goibhniu>
magnetophon: a friend of mine is using it, but had a few serious upgrade problems with virtualbox (to use word :/), so now I run upgrades for her manually
* goibhniu
doesn't have any other potential customers for it :D
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<magnetophon>
goibhniu: ok, thanks for the heads up. My mom needs virtualbox for her bridge programs, so I'll stay away from your scripts for now.
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Profpatsch opened pull request #20818: liquibase: improve external jar integration (master...liquibase) https://git.io/v13IN
<goibhniu>
magnetophon: well, the problems aren't anything to do with my scripts, just with windows + virtualbox upgrade problems ... so ... watch out! :)
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] vcunat pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v133k
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 18757f3 AndersonTorres: XFCE plugins: update, taken from #20410...
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<ronny>
hmm
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<dmj`>
is there an android sdk pkg
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<dmj`>
indeed, there is
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<chris|>
is there a way to iterate over a range of numbers in a nix expression, like (1 to i).foreach{ ... } ?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] offlinehacker opened pull request #20819: minikube: init at 0.12.2 (master...pkgs/minikube/init) https://git.io/v1383
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] offlinehacker opened pull request #20820: docker-machine-kvm: init at 0.7.0 (master...pkgs/dockermachine/add/kvm-driver) https://git.io/v1384
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<dmj`>
chris: map (x: x + 1) [1 2 3]
<dmj`>
> [ 2 3 4 ]
<avn>
dmj`: possible he need something like `range 1 10` ;)
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<dmj`>
then construct a lazy sequence
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<chris|>
avn: indeed :)
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<chris|>
would you have an example for that?
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<eacameron>
Anyone have experience with Buddy? I'm curious what nixers think of it.
<clever>
viric: i think i'm making progress on the rpi and possibly your seccomp issues
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<clever>
viric: the armv7 builds of the rpi kernel default to multiplatform, and dont even boot on an rpi3, but ive now got it partialy booting
<avn>
eacameron: looks like some hipsters hype ;)
<eacameron>
avn: I'd believe it.
<JonReed>
Anybody using zsh-prezto here? How to make it the default shell in configuration.nix? So, I included `zsh-prezto` in package and I don't know what do next and there are no examples of using prezto in NixOS.
<JonReed>
Even with oh-my-zsh there is like just one lonely example hidden in the debts of Reddit.
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<JonReed>
Ah, probably I need to try not to include plain zsh as well in packages. Perhaps, it will then point to the right package.
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<dsaa>
Hi! I just installed nixos on my computer. When I boot, it goes to the command line. How do I start the window manager?
<clever>
enable a window manager in configuration.nix
<clever>
it already has examples in the default file
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<clever>
i usualy go with slim and xfce, but the example is kdm and kde
<dsaa>
It is enabled
<dsaa>
windowManager.default = "xmonad";
<dsaa>
windowManager.xmonad.enable = true;
<xeviox>
dsaa you have to enable auto start
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<dsaa>
How do I do that?
<xeviox>
services.xserver.autorun = true;
<dsaa>
Thanks!
<xeviox>
otherwise you will have to enable it manually in every session
<clever>
dsaa: did you also services.xserver.enable = true; ?
<dsaa>
clever: yes that one was in there
<dsaa>
rebooting
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<JonReed>
If that does not work then sometimes it's caused by improper driver configuration. On laptaps with dual video cards, you have to both specify services.xserver.videoDrivers ["nvidia" "intel"]
<dsaa>
Yeah, it didn't work
<JonReed>
If you leave just "nvidia" in there then xorg will fail to start
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<JonReed>
which drops you just to a terminal
<clever>
dsaa: what does "systemctl status display-manager" say?
<dsaa>
How to know which video driver I need?
<clever>
dsaa: by inspecting the output of lspci
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<dsaa>
Unit display-manager.service could not be found
<pmade>
Are there any good docs/examples on securing a NixOS container (or systemd-nspawn)? I want to jail/sandbox my browser.
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<clever>
dsaa: did you run "nixos-rebuild switch" after editing configuration.nix?
<dsaa>
lspci: command not found
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<dsaa>
clever: Oops, sorry, I didn't
<avn>
dsaa: who complains on this? Hotfix -- add pciutils, proper way -- look who require this, and replace command with full path in sources
<clever>
dsaa: then it has been ignoring every single change youve made to that file
<avn>
dsaa: nixos -- is `devops on your localhost`, so until you apply new config nothing really changed.
<dsaa>
Ok, it's building now
<dsaa>
Takes forever...
<clever>
its still faster then gentoo~
<dsaa>
True that
<dsaa>
Never used it
<dsaa>
That's a very geeky-ish distro right?
<clever>
gentoo just compiles everything from source
<dsaa>
That's kind of cool
<clever>
and it sometimes leaves a mess behind in places like /usr, and updates become a pain
<dsaa>
Got you
<clever>
x wont compile because y is installed, and y wont compile because it isnt compatible with the old x
<dsaa>
I see... nixos is really clean and elegant in that sense
<clever>
yeah, the store prevents that issue from happening entirely
<dsaa>
Not sure why it's taking so long... This nvidia thing seems to be huge
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<avn>
dsaa: your nixpkgs on ssd or on spinning disk?
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v13MH
<idrop>
Hello, i was using gnome3 and i switched to i3. However i cant mount my partitions in i3 now. What i should do additionally ?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] adnelson opened pull request #20822: buildEnv: allow custom environment variables to be set (master...buildenv_environment) https://git.io/v13Hh
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<tikhon>
I'm trying to use some Haskell Spark bindings (sparkle) with Nix, which in turn uses Gradle to fetch its JVM dependencies, so the package doesn't build. How do we usually handle packages that are built with Gradle?
<gchristensen>
I'll miss you, matrix.org
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<digitalmentat>
I'm using NixOS in production and I'm designing a data migration system for components; I was curious if someone experienced with NixOS is willing to be a rubber ducky with me or provide feedback?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] lbonn opened pull request #20825: wireguard: remove dependency on ip-up.target (master...wireguard-systemd-start) https://git.io/v1snv