06:18 <flokli> damjan: you probably also need dev for headers, so you?

06:20 <flokli> If it generally makes sense to build this with systemd for startup notification and logging, I'd just call the input systemd, and tolerate it being set to null.

06:23 <flokli> I'm not yet really sure on the long-term story of this.

06:23 <flokli> Personally, if it's only for the journal protocol and signalling readyness etc, I'd prefer if that protocol were stable, and there were a somewhat simple library implementing only these bits.

10:26 <damjan> flokli: the sd_notify interface is stable and easily implemented. but you never know what apps will use :)

10:27 <damjan> the journal interface OTOH is more complex

10:27 <flokli> yeah

10:27 <damjan> and yes, I do have the 'dev' too, was just wondering in general

10:28 <flokli> maybe systemdMinimal then

10:28 <flokli> it's not really udev only