andi- changed the topic of #nixos-security to: Vulnerability Roundup Issues: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+Vulnerability+roundup + https://broken.sh | Currently supported releases: unstable (master), 20.09, 20.03 (until 27th of November)
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<red[evilred]> How not to store secrets:
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<gchristensen> AAAAHHH
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<red[evilred]> haha
<red[evilred]> there's worse
<red[evilred]> ready?
<red[evilred]> oh - I've lost it
<red[evilred]> but the password to upload to their package repo in akamai cdn was 'solarwinds123'
<red[evilred]> so that's probably how their customers got popped
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<pie_> iirc some of the higher security modes in freebsd are kind of like that <red[evilred]> So, in higher security systems - the OS / Application doesn't have any ability to modify itself
<pie_> red[evilred]: you have experience with such more secure systems?
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<IdleBot_4fae1f80> I almost have the experience with UI-side of managing such a system (I ran an LFS build which was unmanageable from inside a unionfs chroot and unusably bare outside that unionfs chroot).
<IdleBot_4fae1f80> But proper security guarantees almost surely require physical separation…
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<red[evilred]> pie_ (IRC): Such systems and their designs in the modern world are almost certainly classified
<red[evilred]> but if you go back a little in time, you can find things like embedded network gear
<red[evilred]> ie - waaaay before they were built atop of linux/bsd/qnx etc
<red[evilred]> a friend of mine who worked on such systems but can't talk about it in any detail I'm guessing sent me this:
<red[evilred]> let me rephrase that - I suspect may have worked on
<red[evilred]> I don't actually know for a fact
<red[evilred]> even a brief read of section 2 (less than half a page) illustrates the futility of it all
<red[evilred]> so have a drink handy :-)
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<pie_> oh boy.
<pie_> red[evilred]: you ever see posts from nickpsecurity
<pie_> red[evilred]: maybe i shouldnt read this right now :P my stomach isnt feeling so great, let alone do i have a drink handy
<pie_> red[evilred]: ok the title already has me interested. by the way if you have any other reading recommendations im not game, i beg of you to send them :P (general topic, not required to be specific to this)
<pie_> im kind of a collector of peoples bibliographies
<pie_> though almost noone seems to keep them :(
<red[evilred]> Sure - if I find interesting stuff I'll pass it along - happy to
<red[evilred]> my other main area of interest other than security is performant actor-based systems
<red[evilred]> and functional programming (but not the haskell level - yet)
<pie_> you can also ask said friend for his public list ;P
<red[evilred]> I don't know if they have one per se, they're my mentor and don't do social media at all.
<red[evilred]> so doesn't have much if anything published outside of academia (and they stopped that ~30 years ago)
<pie_> i was thinking of forwarding it but damn good for you for finding a good mentor....im super jelly ;_;
<pie_> i kind of have too much random shit about me on the net due to not knowing better when i was younger. and bad compartmentalization and public irc logs xP
<red[evilred]> You're more than welcome to forward any of the stuff that I send you - np.
<red[evilred]> yeah - they've been my primary mentor for 20+ years.
<red[evilred]> what's funny is, it pretty much doesn't matter what the subject is - I'll ask "Hey, do you know anything about <x>?" - they'll be like "Sure, I worked on <system x> in <some timeframe> which implemented that....", or "I did research at <place> on that for <system z>"
<red[evilred]> believe me - I've tried to get a list of topic before after finding stuff that was mind-blowing for me, finding out they'd done stuff on it and I'm like: "Why didn't you tell me about this 10 years ago!?!"
<pie_> no i meant you should f9rward their rec list to me :p
<pie_> allso im not feeling very good today so wont be able to focus too much
<hexa-> would you mind migrating to -chat?
<pie_> ok
<red[evilred]> sure
<hexa-> thx
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<zgrep> /join #nixos-chat
<zgrep> Oops, sorry.
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<andi-> Version v0.0.0-20201216223049-8b5274cf687f of golang.org/x/crypto fixes a
<andi-> vulnerability in the golang.org/x/crypto/ssh package which allowed clients
<andi-> to cause a panic in SSH servers.
<andi-> that version string...
<andi-> > CVE-2020-29652
<{^_^}> undefined variable 'CVE-2020-29652' at (string):452:1
<hexa-> v0.0.0-$(date)-$(git describe) kthxybye.
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