samueldr changed the topic of #nixos-infra to: NixOS infrastructure | logs: https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-infra/
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<roberth> the darwin builders do seem to be stuck. They have plenty of backlog from trunk, staging and staging-20.09, but only one of the machines is active
<roberth> I don't think that can be caused by shares, can it?
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<domenkozar[m]> ikwildrpepper: ^^
<domenkozar[m]> btw, shouldn't shares be per platform?
<ikwildrpepper> not sure, would have to check the hydra source code, maybe niksnut knows by heart
<gchristensen> I don't think shares are by platform, meaning it could starve a platform
<ikwildrpepper> looks like builds are only happening on one mac, perhaps reboot went wrong this weekend
<ikwildrpepper> mac minis coming up
<ikwildrpepper> domenkozar[m], roberth: all macs are building now again
<domenkozar[m]> go team fruit
<domenkozar[m]> thanks ikwildrpepper :)
<domenkozar[m]> one of the hard things about hydra is that it's not clear if things are stuck or just not scheduled yet
<ikwildrpepper> the logs were clear
<domenkozar[m]> (which would allow for monitoring to trigger alarms)
<roberth> thanks!
<domenkozar[m]> ikwildrpepper: logs are clear, but I don't want to waste your time each time I think macos are stuck :D
<gchristensen> https://hydra.nixos.org/queue-runner-status has a lot of really good information in it, but it isn't visualized anywhere that is easy to understand what it is trying to say
<ikwildrpepper> oh sure, I wasn't suggesting that the current situation is perfect :D can't remember if we have some log aggregation setup, that we could use to alert
<gchristensen> we don't yet, we could setup loki to the same machine eris is on -- the reason I haven't yet is logs have "scarier" information to make public
<ikwildrpepper> oh right, I think in this case the info is in the queue status log
<ikwildrpepper> log -> json
<ikwildrpepper> as the macs were 'disabledUntil'
<ikwildrpepper> sorry, a bit distracted, as i am working on my favorite thing (bookkeeping / admin)
<ikwildrpepper> :puke:
<domenkozar[m]> heh I just did accounting in last two days as well
<gchristensen> I have never expensed a single ofborg expense because I just can't make myself do it, lol
<gchristensen> it is hard to make the $50 worth the pain
<domenkozar[m]> I only had to make two bank exports of transactions
<domenkozar[m]> took me 2.5 months to get to it
<gchristensen> that is familiar
<domenkozar[m]> :D
<domenkozar[m]> alright so we just need to wire up things to know when macs are stuck
<ikwildrpepper> gchristensen: haha, same here. I almost never declare things at company as I dislike it too much :D (don't tell Lizi)
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<gchristensen> just remembered that page
<domenkozar[m]> If you are experiencing problems, please report them here.
<domenkozar[m]> maybe we can amend that message with a link to useful graphs?
<domenkozar[m]> (since these are hydra.nixos.org specific)
<gchristensen> I think so
<gchristensen> oh I hate to delete and recreate that news item, it is vintage
<domenkozar[m]> could we amend in db?
<gchristensen> I think I can add a new message in addition ... 1s
<domenkozar[m]> that could also think to the queue-runner stats
<gchristensen> how about a link to this instead of linking to individual dashboards: https://status.nixos.org/grafana/dashboards/f/vMqEtUEGz/hydra
<domenkozar[m]> that sounds good too
<gchristensen> I forgot about the duration heatmap, that one is so good
<gchristensen> this issue being opened/closed/opened from months ago makes me wish for those bots that lock old closed issues
<gchristensen> not that it solves anything probably
<domenkozar[m]> thanks for that message!
<gchristensen> it was a good idea, I forgot that the news could be edited
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<gchristensen> I'm going to try to upgrade the hydra macs to a recent catalina shortly
<gchristensen> (~today)
<domenkozar[m]> :)
<ikwildrpepper> gchristensen: nice, thnx
<ikwildrpepper> gchristensen: don't break them :D
<gchristensen> well, the good news is we'll be able to roll back :P
<ikwildrpepper> in theory
<ikwildrpepper> :-p
<gchristensen> for real! the macos vms get erased often enough, and we'll hold on to the old macos copy :P
<ikwildrpepper> to see is to believe!
<ikwildrpepper> sounds like black magic!
<gchristensen> lol
<ikwildrpepper> sorry, just trolling
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