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<colemickens> peelz: rebuilding right now with it
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<peelz> colemickens: cool! let me know
<peelz> ah you already replied to the PR
<colemickens> already commented, its good to go
<colemickens> :)
<peelz> thanks
<peelz> gchristensen: are you still good to review/merge the PR?
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<cole-h> worldofpeace: btw it looks like there is an org permission for labelling things, "Triage"
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<worldofpeace> cole-h: perhaps I can see if an admin can grant this for you
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<peelz> jtojnar++ thanks!
<{^_^}> jtojnar's karma got increased to 45
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<bennofs[m]> is there some way to historically view what things where happening on hydra at a given time?
<bennofs[m]> I would like to see how timeouts of certain jobs are related to running parallel jobs
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<bennofs[m]> how does backporting staging changes work? Cherry pick to staging-RELEASE-VERSION first or directly to release-RELEASE-VERSION?
<cole-h> The first, I believe
<cole-h> Yep, the first. See #86015 for example
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/86015 (by worldofpeace, 21 hours ago, merged): [20.03] p11-kit: add trust paths
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<emily> cole-h: is that vde_switch stuff at the end of https://logs.nix.ci/?attempt_id=26405c59-8c11-471b-8305-9cbd6a17de80&key=nixos%2Fnixpkgs.86034 expected? looks ofborg-related maybe?
<emily> also, tfw you watch ofborg build a kernel in 20 minutes that takes hours on my machine and wish you could grab the resulting binary :'(
<emily> hm, maybe it's the VM test machinery actually (but I don't recall getting those messages locally)
<cole-h> emily: I think that's just the test runner?
<cole-h> Yeah
<cole-h> I don't see any ofborg errors in any of the logs atm
<emily> the weird thing is that it got spewed out on one line before I reloaded
<emily> "(0.10 seconds),12 out of 12 tests succeeded,test script finished in 22.53s,cleaning up,killing machine (pid 6),(0.00 seconds),vde_switch: EOF on stdin, cleaning up and exiting,vde_switch: Could not remove ctl dir '/build/vde1.ctl': Directory not empty,/nix/store/ggdv4v9v3m1yyz8y2b89zwbxx09m2drc-vm-test-run-hardened,/nix/store/70gfx57l73sc2b927lmrsp9pz4aj2x4x-vm-test-run-hardened"
<cole-h> Maybe before the log collector had time to split the elements
<cole-h> My current position is: "it's innocuous," but I'll keep my eyes and ears peeled.
<emily> yeah, just wanted to check nothing was horribly broken again :P
* emily nods
<cole-h> How I judge if things are horribly broken: 1) does this search return any results: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Aofborg-internal-error
<cole-h> 2) Does https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pulls have a suspicious amount of pending or failed CI statuses
<cole-h> 3) Did somebody ping me, or am I being paged
<cole-h> lol
<emily> well, I pinged you, so I guess that means things are horribly broken
<cole-h> Crap, you're right
<cole-h> s/somebody/multiple people, in potentially multiple places,/
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<emily> could someone take a look at #86034? kernel patch version bump, passes boot tests
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/86034 (by emilazy, 13 hours ago, open): linux_*_hardened: update patches
<emily> (some update script refactors too but it worked enough to do those ones at least)
<cole-h> I think Neq beat you to the actual patches (were pushed to master ~30m ago lol), but I like the mypy typing
<emily> oh whoops :)
<emily> well, no rush then, I'll rebase it on top of master in a bit and maybe do some more cleanups
<cole-h> You opened your PR long before that happened, so nothing to "whoops" about
<cole-h> :P
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<DamienCassou> hi everyone
<etu> DamienCassou: o/
<DamienCassou> in the past, I had commit access (see, e.g., https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/18966). I then stopped using NixOS for 2 years and I lost commit access. I'm back now. Would it be possible to get commit access back?
<{^_^}> #18966 (by grahamc, 3 years ago, merged): file-roller: 3.20.2 -> 3.20.3
<gchristensen> interesting, I didn't know we'd revoked commit bit before
<MichaelRaskin> Maybe 2FA?
<MichaelRaskin> DamienCassou: do you have 2FA enabled for your account?
<MichaelRaskin> gchristensen
<MichaelRaskin> There was definitely de-facto revocation due to checking 2FA-mandatory checkbox
<gchristensen> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/42761 indeed DamienCassou's nick is in here :) not sure how I/we decided to remove them. maybe via request? doesn't look like a systemic search was done
<{^_^}> #42761 (by grahamc, 1 year ago, closed): Require 2FA for all committers
<gchristensen> DamienCassou: added!
<MichaelRaskin> I believe there was a full list of the accounts with access, and once the count was low enough, people looked at unticked checkboxes?
<gchristensen> yeah maybe so
<gchristensen> DamienCassou: welcome back :)
<DamienCassou> Thank you very much
<etu> DamienCassou: we miss you in Stockholm as well at the Emacs meetups ;)
<DamienCassou> That was indeed a nice experience :-)
<DamienCassou> It's good to be back. I missed NixOS quite a bit
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<DamienCassou> I have opened a PR to add a package 6 days ago. No one looked at it. All checks pass. Is it ok to merge it myself? Should I instead keep waiting or ping someone? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/85654
<{^_^}> #85654 (by DamienCassou, 5 days ago, open): GitAutofixup: init at 0.002007
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<DamienCassou> there is a PR which contains merge commits. Is it an accepted practice or should I ask the PR author to get rid of them and rebase instead?
<cole-h> I've seen most other committers ask the author to rebase themselves.
<DamienCassou> I will do that then. I would prefer not having merge commits in PRs
<worldofpeace> Damien Cassou: maybe review the nixpkgs contributing guide. It says strictly to rebase
<DamienCassou> worldofpeace: thanks for the tip. Is it in the nixpkgs manual?
<worldofpeace> yep
<DamienCassou> thank you for the release worldofpeace
<DamienCassou> I remember there were discussions a few years ago about automatically closing PRs and issues after some time. I thought and always think this is a great idea if anyone can reopen them at any point. Were there any decision?
<worldofpeace> Damien Cassou: you're welcome, my honor ✨
<worldofpeace> I think we have a stale issue bot
<cole-h> I think there was talk about that recently. RFC'd maybe?
<{^_^}> rfcs#51 (by ryantm, 35 weeks ago, merged): [RFC 0051] Mark stale nixpkgs issues
<cole-h> Yeah, just found it
<worldofpeace> but closing stale issues was found to be not useful in that RFC
<worldofpeace> lol
<DamienCassou> thank you
<cole-h> worldofpeace: I agree with that finding. Too many times have I searched for something only to find "this issue is stale. closing"
<cole-h> It feels like a slap in the face -- the fact that I encountered that issue proves it's still problematic...
<worldofpeace> cole-h: I know one repo that uses the bot and it can be soo annoying, just commenting so the bot can stop being annoying
<cole-h> Every repo I see that uses the stale issue bot (that autocloses) or that dependency-bump bot gets an automatic stink-eye from me
<DamienCassou> if an issue is still problematic, I think you should re-open and say that it is. But I guess many issues will be closed and stay closed.
<emily> cole-h: I especially like the more optimistic version of those, "this hasn't been touched for 3 versions, so we're going to assume it got fixed"
<emily> awfully bold of you to assume your defect rate is going down over time, imo
<cole-h> Ugh
<gchristensen> harsh but fair
<MichaelRaskin> Well, to be honest, the issues that do get resolved are most often closed a year later when someone decides to triage old and forgotten issues
<emily> MichaelRaskin: I think that's quite true at the distro level, less so at the level of individual software projects
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<emily> bugs usually don't spontaneously fix themselves, and although big refactors often "accidentally" close a bunch of bugs I reckon they're about as likely to accidentally reopen them
<MichaelRaskin> emily: I was making a statement of what I see in my GH notification stream
<MichaelRaskin> Not generally
<MichaelRaskin> Also, for packaging issues, upstream build system usually evolves in some direction, so new bugs are new, not the reopened old ones
<DamienCassou> cole-h: @worl
<DamienCassou> cole-h: worldofpeace I fixed my PR and it built successfully: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/85654
<{^_^}> #85654 (by DamienCassou, 5 days ago, open): GitAutofixup: init at 0.002007
<cole-h> 👍
<worldofpeace> Damien Cassou: merged ✨
<DamienCassou> thank you!
<DamienCassou> I recently opened an issue about `man` not being able to list man pages. I would like to fix it myself but appreciate some guidance. Do you know anyone who knows a bit how man pages work? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/86065
<{^_^}> #86065 (by DamienCassou, 3 hours ago, open): Cannot list man pages with apropos
<DamienCassou> I already CCed @ryantm @matthewbauer
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<worldofpeace> Damien Cassou: I have no idea, but this is what looks interesting to me: documentation.nix man.enable, whatis.c in man-db
<cole-h> DamienCassou: A quick Google leads me to the manpage for mandb(8). Have you tried `mandb -c`? It "forces mandb to delete previous databases and re-create them from scratch"
<Irenes[m]> oh hey it would be great to have a solution for that
<Irenes[m]> thanks for working on it
<cole-h> Uh, anybody who has ofborg perms to build on Darwin, mind telling borg to build #85930? I forgot I can't do that x)
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/85930 (by thomasjm, 2 days ago, open): Package Microsoft's Python Language Server
<cole-h> worldofpeace: ofborg doesn't check edit authors :(
* cole-h adds to my borg todo list to investigate if that's possible
<worldofpeace> cole-h: weird, that has worked for me often
<cole-h> oh lmao dotnet-sdk is not support on darwin
<cole-h> worldofpeace: That is weird... regardless, investigating that is now on my growing todolist. We'll see if I get around to it in the next few weeks :P
<cole-h> worldofpeace++
<{^_^}> worldofpeace's karma got increased to 156
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<pie_[bnc]> dont have any concrete applications in mind, but consider; modeling https://invidio.us/watch?v=FvNRlE4E9QQ
<pie_[bnc]> would be nice if i just had some article to link instead of a long video
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<colemickens> now that the release happened will there be a return to normal weekly meetings?
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