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<LnL>
thanks!
<pstn>
I'll take that as confirmation.
<gchristensen>
of?
<pstn>
the systemState issue.
<pstn>
Sorry, didn't notice I switched channels.
<gchristensen>
oh :)
<gchristensen>
and nicknames
<pstn>
Well... I need my postgresq Server for matrix that I use for IRC :-D
<gchristensen>
ouch :(
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<niksnut>
the release-17.09-small branch still had stableBranch=false, I've changed it to true
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<gchristensen>
what does that parameter do, niksnut?
<gchristensen>
niksnut, fpletz: I think we should lock this issue: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/1583 as Apple would like us to not disclose too much more info than we already have
<gchristensen>
any second opinions?
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<disasm>
I'm sure my opinion doesn't count much, but I agree, if apple requested us to not disclose, lets lock it and let them fix the issue first.
<copumpkin>
considering it breaks all our users on 10.13
<copumpkin>
it seems rather unfriendly for the only place they can look for help to be locked
<gchristensen>
yeah
<clever>
gchristensen: one thought i had, run bonnie++ against APFS
<fpletz>
also, what should we do if that becomes a topic on the mailing list? I don't think it would be wise to start regulating communication in the community
<gchristensen>
ok you convinced me
<fpletz>
gchristensen: is that coming officially from apple? from shlevy's recent mail I read that there wasn't any communication
<fpletz>
niksnut: thanks!
<gchristensen>
IIRC yes they asked us to not reveal further details
<fpletz>
gchristensen: well, there is a company from around munich that builds big, professional flight simulators with nix because the control software of all control units is so difficult to simulate and integrate :) unfortunately for the military
<gchristensen>
no way! who?
<fpletz>
they wouldn't even tell me and I had no interest :)
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<gchristensen>
awesome :D
<niksnut>
heh
<niksnut>
maybe we can get some of that sweet military-industrial complex funding
<gchristensen>
now you're talking
<gchristensen>
the only part of the US budget that they fund more than the military wants
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<copumpkin>
niksnut: ikwildrpepper I think a couple of hydra macs might be dead
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<copumpkin>
should be a trivial fix, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything on a fairly widely used thing
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<rycee>
I'm curious, anybody know the plan with the i686 builds on Hydra? I recall them being dropped at some point.
<rycee>
gchristensen: Maybe you know?
<gchristensen>
general support for it has been dropped for 17.09 and unstable, but 17.03 continues fully supporting it
<gchristensen>
that said, we still build some packages and their dependencies on i686
<rycee>
Alright, cool. I'll start looking for a replacement of my trusty ol' thinkpad x30 :-)
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<gchristensen>
a good plan all around :)
<gchristensen>
niksnut: can we make a Nix release to not use the multi-user installer on High Sierra?
<niksnut>
you mean basically revert to the old installer?
<gchristensen>
yeah :(
<niksnut>
the darwin installer only does multi-user right?
<gchristensen>
yeah
<niksnut>
would there be any advantage to adding a flag to do single-user installs?
<gchristensen>
ideally we'd be able to turn off the multi-user bit in the nixos.org/install shim without releasing a new nix, that is something we could do
<gchristensen>
so we can add the single-user flag to the install.sh inside the nix package, and pass the single-user flag in the installer on the website