<thefloweringash>
It's not quite accurate that nntp.perl.org is down. it doesn't reject my connections, but it does close them before sending anything. Still, tests shouldn't rely on the state of the internet!
<LnL>
tests that require internet are evil
<gchristensen>
+1 how soon can we roll out the sandbox, LnL? :)
<LnL>
yeah, soon™️
<gchristensen>
we could make the builders not able to talk to anything but S3 :P
<LnL>
I don't understand why that didn't fail on linux tho
<gchristensen>
looks like since it does accept a connection, it is tested
<gchristensen>
but on linux the connection would fail so the test would be skipped
<LnL>
ah I see
<LnL>
let's enable sandboxing on hydra and rebuild then ;)
<gchristensen>
:D
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<matthewbauer>
haha that's probably a lot better than my idea to just disable the test suite
<matthewbauer>
it's interesting that it's only happening now? the lnl7-wip jobset never hit this
<LnL>
that was still based on master
<LnL>
it's a regression from staging, not the 10.12 update
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<asar>
I have a question: I'm trying to build a haskell package inside a nix-shell, and I'm getting a build error about clang/ld not being able to find utimensat
<asar>
So it seems that OSX provides a utimensat, but inside a nix-shell, (created with runCommandCC) clang can't find it
<asar>
is there a nixpkg I need to include to my build dependencies to get an implementation of it?
<asar>
One thing I have found that works is if I change the nix-shell to be built with runCommand it builds, but then it does not honor the build inputs I have specified (and presumably uses the OSX built in clang)
<asar>
Am I trying to do something too goofy? Am I on the road to ruin?
<LnL>
gnulib?
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<matthewbauer>
asar: utimensat was only added in high sierra
<matthewbauer>
asar: we can't use it in nixpkgs without requiring everyone use high sierra
<matthewbauer>
asar: what haskell package is finding that?
<LnL>
ah it's a symbol?
<LnL>
if it's a nix-shell there might be something cached that's causing problems with our Libsystem
<matthewbauer>
yeah possibly if ghc is being built somewhere else
<asar>
specifically I'm using stack inside the nix-shell
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<asar>
Now internal symbols aren't linking. Perhaps this is just a me issue and I have something more sinister going on. If I figure it out and it's relevant I'll be sure to update
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<matthewbauer>
asar: yeah i think it's directory that uses that symbol
<matthewbauer>
you might want to try clearing the cache and see that works (dist-newstyle/ or ~/.stack)
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