#nix-darwin on 2018-02-13

00:30 <contrapumpkin> hi :)

00:39 ndrei has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0]

00:40 jtojnar has joined #nix-darwin

01:17 jtojnar has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

01:19 dredozubov has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

01:22 dredozubov has joined #nix-darwin

01:38 contrapumpkin is now known as Whale

01:38 Whale is now known as contrapumpkin

01:39 contrapumpkin is now known as Whale

01:39 Whale is now known as contrapumpkin

01:40 philr has joined #nix-darwin

04:05 <ldlework> DMG signing is pretty damaging to Nix on OSX

06:09 chrisbarrett has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]

08:06 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

08:07 zzamboni has quit [Client Quit]

08:07 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

08:15 zzamboni has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]

08:31 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

08:36 zzamboni has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

08:37 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

08:42 zzamboni has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]

08:43 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

08:48 zzamboni has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

08:49 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

08:54 zzamboni has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

08:55 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

09:00 zzamboni has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

09:01 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

09:05 zzamboni has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]

10:08 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

10:09 zzamboni has quit [Client Quit]

10:09 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

10:42 carter has quit []

10:43 carter has joined #nix-darwin

10:59 zzamboni has quit [Quit: Leaving.]

11:00 mankyKitty has quit []

11:01 mankyKitty has joined #nix-darwin

11:14 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

11:16 rgrinberg has quit []

11:16 rgrinberg has joined #nix-darwin

11:25 zzamboni has quit [Quit: Leaving.]

11:27 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

11:33 zzamboni has quit [Quit: Leaving.]

11:37 chrisbarrett has joined #nix-darwin

11:39 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

11:40 chrisbar1 has joined #nix-darwin

11:44 gleber_ has quit []

11:45 gleber_ has joined #nix-darwin

11:53 zzamboni has quit [Quit: Leaving.]

11:54 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

11:56 zzamboni has quit [Client Quit]

11:59 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

11:59 cbarrett has quit []

12:00 cbarrett has joined #nix-darwin

12:00 zzamboni has quit [Client Quit]

12:00 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

12:22 zzamboni has quit [Quit: Leaving.]

12:22 chrisbar1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]

12:27 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

12:30 chrisbarrett has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]

13:07 zzamboni has quit [Quit: Leaving.]

13:08 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

14:02 zzamboni has quit [Quit: Leaving.]

14:05 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

14:15 elvishjerricco has quit []

14:16 elvishjerricco has joined #nix-darwin

14:25 zzamboni has quit [Quit: Leaving.]

14:26 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

14:56 zzamboni has quit [Quit: Leaving.]

14:59 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

16:05 zzamboni has quit [Quit: Leaving.]

16:09 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

16:11 zzamboni has quit [Client Quit]

16:11 zzamboni has joined #nix-darwin

16:16 zzamboni has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

18:42 philr has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]

19:04 jtojnar has joined #nix-darwin

19:28 <johnw> ldlework: oh?

19:29 <ldlework> Yeah how do you handle it?

19:29 <ldlework> The only method for working with those kind of DMG's are with hdiutil which can't be used "headless"

19:30 <johnw> oh, because it prompts for a password?

19:31 <contrapumpkin> why would signing be harmful?

19:49 <johnw> i'm starting to not like distributed builds much

19:50 <johnw> the added speed is not worth the inconvenience

19:52 <contrapumpkin> what could make them more convenient?

20:13 <johnw> contrapumpkin: I'm missing these things:

20:14 <johnw> -K doesn't save a build directory for me. Sometimes this is essential

20:14 <contrapumpkin> ah yeah, that would be nice

20:14 <johnw> Using C-c to kill the build *does not kill the build*. There continue to be processes on my laptop that keep on building whatever they were building

20:14 <contrapumpkin> it should be possible for it to get transported back ,but that's work

20:14 <johnw> actually getting a build to step takes a lot of work hunting down processes

20:14 <contrapumpkin> maybe file issues for both of those

20:14 <contrapumpkin> it seems like the protocol just needs to be a little richer

20:14 <johnw> yes

20:14 <johnw> SIGINT should propagate everywhere

20:15 <contrapumpkin> oh but it already does 🤔

20:15 <contrapumpkin> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signals_intelligence

20:15 <contrapumpkin> :P

20:15 <johnw> hmm mitmproxy breaks today

20:15 <johnw> lol

20:15 <johnw> No matching distribution found for pyOpenSSL<17.4,>=17.2 (from mitmproxy==3.0.0)

20:15 <contrapumpkin> boo

20:16 <johnw> easy to bisect though

20:16 <contrapumpkin> we need to start managing the python package set holistically like we do the others

20:16 <johnw> I now keep a 'last-known-good' branch in my nixpkgs

20:16 <johnw> so I always know the base commit for the bisect

20:16 <contrapumpkin> :)

20:16 <johnw> in fact, I'll write a script for "bisect who broke building attribute X"

20:18 <LnL> I kind of already have that

20:18 <johnw> https://gist.github.com/b5bf522ba67a2ffc5f32b2dc3b099950

20:18 <johnw> you know it's a rough week when you finish your 40 hours on monday afternoon

20:18 <LnL> https://github.com/LnL7/nix-darwin/blob/master/modules/examples/lnl.nix#L236-L242

20:19 <johnw> cool

20:19 <LnL> it bisects your current checkout with the last good build on hydra

20:19 <johnw> I use independent scripts to make it easier to execute from other tools, like Emacs

20:19 <johnw> very cool

20:20 <dhess> ooh I will steal those hydra scripts

20:26 <LnL> :)

20:28 <johnw> 1583803ed30033b3a03762be3148a87e417628e4 broke it

20:31 <contrapumpkin> LnL: that sounds nice!

20:53 chrisbar1 has joined #nix-darwin

21:26 <ldlework> johnw contrapumpkin because it can't be automated with Nix, afaiu

21:27 <ldlework> hdiutil pops up a window, asking you to manually copy things around, and then you have to unmount and so on

21:27 <ldlework> I am not saying signing is bad, I'm saying I don't see the tooling for automatically installing signed or encrypted or compressed DMG's as neither undmg or 7z can handle them

21:28 <ldlework> I'm definitely interested in being wrong.

21:30 <contrapumpkin> oh, we should add support to libdmg-hfsplus for it :)

21:33 <adelbertc> has anyone noticed for Nix-installed Emacs (on macOS) that in terminal mode, pasting from clipboard does render the text on the screen as one expects, but Emacs itself does not register it. for instance if have "hello" on my clipboard and at the terminal prompt i type `echo <C-p>` I see `echo hello` but hitting enter echo only echo's a new line

22:50 the-kenny has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

23:26 <mitchty> yay, was wondering where rust+cargo were coming from as my update to latest staging was taking forever, librsvg apparently now has rust in it, all this for imagemagick

23:34 <ldlework> imagemagick pulls in rust?

23:34 <ldlework> lol

23:36 <dtz> lol wut

23:39 <mitchty> it does now, librsvg appears to have added some rust recently https://github.com/GNOME/librsvg/commit/2e714d43cda40e0a7bf9fb933ba0dade13b33165

23:41 <dtz> lol this is why we can't have nice things

23:44 <mitchty> i need to get my mini to be a hydra server, not wanting to wait for my laptop to build stuff like this all the time

23:48 <mitchty> on that note should I have my builder just run sierra in lieu of high sierra?

23:50 <LnL> you can use my cache if you want

23:55 <mitchty> well i put two samsung 850 ssd's into it for a reason, I should use it :)

23:57 <LnL> heh, well I won't have everything but things like rust are usually cached faster then nixos.org

23:57 <LnL> https://hydra.daiderd.com

23:58 <ldlework> mitchty why in lieu of heigh sierra?

23:58 <ldlework> I think Nix works fine on High Sierra now

23:58 <mitchty> ldlework: i thought it still has the kill bug not?

23:59 <LnL> that was fixed, but in the next beta there's another kill bug :')

23:59 <contrapumpkin> that should be fixed too by the time it's released

23:59 <mitchty> heh, so sierra it is