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Luxuries of flakes; `nix` is a bit broken, but `nix run nix` still works
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what's the best way to run a docker-compose service under nixos?
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Is there a way to remove a package that is included in mkDerivation from buildInputs? I want to test if the version of objcopy that a built system is using is the wrong one.
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Is there a way to test modifications to a single module without using `-I` to point to a local clone of my branch?
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Can someone fix hadolint for me?
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supersandro2000 >
Setup: Encountered missing or private dependencies:
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supersandro2000 >
language-docker >=9.3.0 && <10
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supersandro2000 >
SumnerEvans[m]: I think you can load the file in imports
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but I am not sure
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supersandro2000: something something doJailbreak
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[rfc39-record] @grahamc pushed commit from rfc39 to main « Automated team sync results. »:
https://git.io/JODNX
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So that video on nixos.org is really enticing. I've never worked in NixOs before but I want to try it!
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Good job whoever made that
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garbas's karma got increased to 30
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how do i say something like `attrs.foo or attrs.bar` but when `attrs.foo` is `null` don't use it?
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redmp >
the `or` operator only seems to work for falling back based on which attributes are defined, but if the first defined attribute is a bogus value you have no information leftover with which to select an alternative
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tmciver >
Hello. I'm setting `services.xserver.libinput.naturalScrolling = true;` in configuration.nix and natural scrolling used to work but not longer does. Anyone know what happened or how to fix it?
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ok, i came up with something like this: let a = attrs.foo or null; b = attrs.bar or null; in if a != null then a else if b != null then b else <blah>;
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SumnerEvans[m] >
redmp: you could also do something like this:
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SumnerEvans[m] >
> let attrs = {foo=null;bar=2;};in if (attrs.foo or null) != null then attrs.foo else attrs.bar
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SumnerEvans[m]: ah, that's nice because it packages up the decision into one expression and avoids the intermediate names; thank you
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That would be `.override`
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cole-h: great! I see it works, thank you.
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does anyone have any ideas on how to replicate a docker-compose setup with nixos functionality?
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Do you need actual containers or are you willing to run on bare metal?
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yaoifangirl420[m >
this is in the context of a minor software project not packaged for nix, whose installation instructions recommend a particular docker-compose setup
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but I don't strictly need the container
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Might be worthwhile completely ignoring their recommended deployment, and writing a Nix expression for their actual build process.
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DigitalKiwi >
what project?
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[rfc39-record] @grahamc pushed commit from rfc39 to main « Automated team sync results. »:
https://git.io/JOycn
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So, I tried to use `mkMerge` inside of `filterAttrs` but it doesn't seem to have actually merged anything. It just created a JSON object with the `type` key set to `"_merge"`.
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What is the correct way to do this so that the merge actually happens?
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i just bumped the size of a nixops cluster on aws from 18 nodes to 33 nodes, and nixops OOMs while evaluating the nix expressions
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redmp >
so that's fun
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redmp >
temporary swap file fixed it, but i'm surprised that all 16GiB mem and 4GiB swap were insufficient
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redmp >
Such that 24GiB total was required..
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redmp_: found some logs of 58 nodes needing over 33gb
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redmp_: they are evaluated concurrently instead of one at the time
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[nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 pushed to SuperSandro2000-patch-1 « gdu: remove unused input »:
https://git.io/JOyDo
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i'll look into passing a -j argument or something to serialize them a bit .. i really like nix and nixos, but if this is how it looks when you're trying to scale up a cluster i'll have to try something else...
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redmp_ >
(or maybe maybe gradschool will afford me the time to contribute to nixops ... we shall see .. that would be pretty fun)
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redmp if nixops insists on evaluating all the systems in a single expression you can always just use something that evaluates them one at a time
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yurb >
is it possible to set arbitrary environment variables in `shell.nix`?
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Ke >
traditionally any variables you set for the derivation are exported as environment variables
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Ke >
does this not work for you?
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yurb >
Emil Karlson: I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to writing *.nix files :) I tried doing this:
https://dpaste.org/Ex35 but I'm getting an error
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yurb >
`error: syntax error, unexpected $undefined, at /home/public_html/orest-music/shell.nix:4:28`
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oh, it was the quotes around the string - d'oh
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Is there a reason the Hydra 'command-not-found' database only contains entries for x86-64 and i386? It would be nice to have functional package suggestions on my aarch64 machines
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XgF >
(alternatively, is there some config setting I need to get the aarch64 version of said dataabse?)
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wow, we don't do it for Darwin at all?
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yeah, that's only triggered for channels containing "nixos"
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gchristensen: do you know how hard it is to install NixOS on Gen3 Packet machines, I have seen that you have images for gen 1 & gen 2, but gen 3 seems to be missing, I tried an iPXE custom script to netboot.xyz but the serial console output stops after a while and I'm in the dark after that
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Aleksejs >
hello, I've sent my laptop to sleep and when I resumed the bluetooth doesn't work anymore. Tried systemctl restart bluetooth.service, it shows an error cannot connect to bluez. In systemctl status bluetooth.service I see two errors: profiles/sap/server.c:sap_server_register() Sap driver initialization failed and sap-server: Operation not permitted (1)
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any idea?
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What does Nix do when two packages provide binaries with the same name? Are there rules about which hides which?
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In $out/bin/ I have several binaries: ..mousai-wrapped-wrapped, .mousai-wrapped and mousai
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(In my case, I have ctags in my configuration.nix that hides the ctags binary that comes with emacs)
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{^_^} >
nixos-channel-scripts#47 (by erincandescent, 38 seconds ago, open): Generate indexes for aarch64 too
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these github events are pretty spammy
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lassulus >
people are busy :D
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if I PRed a patch version bump to master, will it land on stable NixOS automatically, or do I need to make a [20.09] PR?
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you need to open a seperate PR against release-20.09
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or find someone to cherry-pick it for you, but I guess a PR would be the better way
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ezemtsov >
hi guys. I'm trying to generate kubernetes json config with nix. Is there a way to have octal numbers in nix like 0777 and convert them corretly to json?
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ezemtsov >
0777 doesn't work as kubectl complains about it being string, so I need exactly 4 digit int after conversion to JSON
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ezemtsov >
ok resolved by converting 0777 octal to 511 decimal
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ezemtsov >
thanks for support ;)
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arianvp: now i am trying to find a tweet by you (i think)
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Hello, i can please, install Icecast???
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JordiPlayGames[m >
Hello, i can install NixOS in my Honor 7???
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JordiPlayGames[m >
Phone???
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hexa- >
That sounds unlikely
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hexa- >
Even if you could install NixOS to your Honor 7 the userspace wouldn't be very satisfying these days
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ezemtsov >
DigitalKiwi: I agree it's all very confusing ;)
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hexa- >
DigitalKiwi: nix != nixos though :)
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DigitalKiwi >
close 'nuf
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hexa- >
yeah, but the userspace isn't quite there yet
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hexa- >
its not like you can call someone with most of this :)
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DigitalKiwi >
call?
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hexa- >
yeah, like a telephone
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DigitalKiwi >
why would anyone use something so primitive as a telephone
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simpson >
hexa-: The way I'd look at it is that we can return smartphone-like computers to a state of serving their owner. Do your current non-smartphone computers allow making phone calls?
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simpson >
We don't have full control of baseband radios yet. We might never get it with smartphones; we might move on as a society to whatever next flavor of black mirrors is trendy and hard to hack.
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DigitalKiwi >
i haven't made a regular telephone call in years
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simpson >
I make telephone calls all the time, but I use a relatively cheap phone for that. I have a relatively nice phone that has run many custom ROMs, and is never used for phone calls (indeed, has no carrier plan or SIM)
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MichaelRaskin >
To make sure I do not do anything stupid like inserting SIMs, my Cosmo had a long stretch of mysteriously appearing and disappearing sound problems. So cheapest dual-SIM phones it is for putting actual SIMs.
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Raito_Bezarius: I think Packet is still working on some stuff to make it workable
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pingiun >
can a flake be used as the argument for nix-shell? I want to make a script with a nix-shell shebang which uses the nixpkgs from the flake
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tpw_rules >
`nix develop` is the replacement for nix-shell that knows about flakes
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gchristensen >
pingiun: there is a compatibility shim ...
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ah thanks, that works
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Client: HexChat 2.14.3 • OS: NixOS 21.05pre283883.d235056d6d6 (Okapi) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4030U CPU @ 1.90GHz (1.30GHz) • Memory: Physical: 3.7 GiB Total (2.6 GiB Free) Swap: 3.9 GiB Total (3.9 GiB Free) • Storage: 49.9 GB / 590.3 GB (540.4 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller @ Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT DRAM Controller • Uptime: 1h 40m 17s
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DigitalKiwi >
gchristensen: DO YOU MEAN EQUINOX METAL
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gchristensen >
equinix*
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gchristensen >
I can't manage to make myself stop saying packet
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DigitalKiwi >
double take seeing my computer just sent an irc message
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DigitalKiwi >
kiwi@mvp-nixos ~ []$
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DigitalKiwi >
it was mbp before it was mvp
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pennae >
grar, why does the fail2ban module preset maxretry without a config option for it
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mbpnix >
hi everyone...
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gchristensen >
pennae: seems to need a brave contributor to come fix it up :)
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pennae >
gchristensen: will do that later, and take a stab at the "cannot find ipset binary" too
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pennae >
we've already had three PRs in three days, that's more than we did on github in ... oh, possibly a decade
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pennae >
don't want to become a maintainer, you see :p
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gchristensen >
I'll try to overlook the maintaining you've done =)
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pennae >
it's all fun and games until you can't just leave for six months, or it's security-related D:
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gchristensen >
ah, well, maintainership in nixpkgs is historically pretty low commitment. a community of maintainers weeding the plot together.
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pennae >
even that sounds a bit much coming out of a year of getting physically ill when looking at code
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gchristensen >
you can skip right past the overcommitted stage, right to "cares, but very tired" stage
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pennae >
heh. next problem: actually having a clue (cf X-ReloadIfChanged)
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mbpnix >
some who can help with nix flakes?
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lunik1 >
is there any documentation on adding services to nixpkgs? the manual seems to be mostly about adding packages
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symphorien[m] >
look for the documentation about adding a module
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symphorien[m] >
you will mostly use the options `systemd.services` and `environment.etc`
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symphorien[m] >
(note, it's in the nixos manual, not the nixpkgs manual)
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lunik1 >
ah yeah I guess it makes sense it would be there, thanks for the pointer
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pennae >
lunik1: what're you looking to add?
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lunik1 >
pennae: adguard home service
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pennae >
... if the builds are going slow, maybe it's because the machine is still clocked down to 1ghz m)
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m1cr0man: how do you want to use the package in the end? As part of a system config or some other way?
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pennae >
gchristensen: ^ :p
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pennae >
feeling a bit in over my head with nix things tbh
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l33[m] >
keep going...we've got your back!
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pennae >
doing things just here is nice enough. we installed nixos on a server box on a whim when the arch install broke and immediately wrote a secret storage module to put keys into the store—but that's just here and won't break stuff for others
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pennae >
(also we mostly ripped it off from someone else, so)
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pennae >
and now an action failed on that PR that seems..spurious?
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m1cr0man >
ajs124: Just going to use it in a symlinkJoin to build a root fot atftpd
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gchristensen >
looking pennae
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m1cr0man >
ajs124: I've Decided to do this: ipxeEmbedded = pkgs.callPackage <nixpkgs>/tools/misc/ipxe { embedScript = ipxeScript; };
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m1cr0man >
Does that look sensible? Feels wrong to use the nixpkgs path var
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ajs124 >
m1cr0man: if you're going to serve that tftp root on a nixos system, you can just build it in your system configuration with pkgs.ipxe.override
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m1cr0man >
ajs124: Ah ok yeah, I might do that instead. Thanks
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{^_^} >
[nixpkgs] @grahamc pushed to codeowners-workflows « Add NixOS/Security as a reviewer for .github/workflows »:
https://git.io/JOSdB
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NemesisD >
what's the standard way to handle derivations of programs where the binary loads a config file relative to itself? presumably i don't want the user to have to directly go into some random nix store location to edit the config. additionally if a new derivation comes out it should use the same config (maybe linked in?)
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cole-h >
The Nix store is read-only anyways.
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symphorien[m] >
patch the source to make it look in /etc
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symphorien[m] >
if you can't, the poor man's solution is libredirect
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cole-h >
Or patch the source to make it look in the localdir
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MichaelRaskin >
Well, there is also symlink to /etc in the location the program reads
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symphorien[m] >
alternatively (but it feels dirty) is to have ./foo be a symlink to /etc
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cole-h >
but that's not writable, if you want to change the config ;)
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MichaelRaskin >
The
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cole-h >
(the symlink /etc -> /nix/store/.......)
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MichaelRaskin >
I meant the symlink the other way round
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NemesisD >
MichaelRaskin: so like in the install phase, do 'touch /etc/myconf.conf && ln -s /etc/myconf.conf $out/myconf.conf`?
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cole-h >
you can't do that
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MichaelRaskin >
You cannot do the touch part
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NemesisD >
i guess i could just leave a broken link
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NemesisD >
even if i went with the first approach of patching the source to make it look in /etc i assume i still couldn't touch in /etc in the derivation?
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pennae >
heh. does ofborg just get stuck sometimes? :D
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cole-h >
That would break the sandbox :)
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cole-h >
pennae: How do you mean?
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NemesisD >
what approach is the "nix way" of doing things?
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pennae >
cole-h: our most recent pr is waiting for ofborg eval, but ofborg has already replied ^_^
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cole-h >
Yeah, that's the problem with the GitHub action -- it's flakey :)
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cole-h >
(Or maybe it's waiting for the darwin check to succeed, which it never will because we don't have a darwin machine hooked up yet)
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according to labels darwin isn't impacted
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eh, whatever. as long as the important stuff ran :D
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cole-h >
That check is really only to make sure people don't merge stuff that ofborg hasn't run on
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cole-h >
(A few months last year, ofborg was sick and constantly falling behind)
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pennae >
nanite deficiency?
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,escape ${1}
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Escape this in '' strings with: ''${1}
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Escape this in " strings with: \${1}
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,escape "${1}"
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Escape this in " strings with: \"\${1}\"
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Escape this in '' strings with: "''${1}"
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Hello! I installed NixOS yesterday and started playing around with it today. I installed a few Jetbrains IDE's (Idea and Rider to be exact), however they were all borked
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For instance, both had rendering artifacts
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And despite having the jdk and dotnet-sdk installed on my system, neither one could detect anything
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(I should clarify that I installed the latest versions available from the unstable channel, but I doubt that makes a difference)
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not sure that's relevant
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I think to some degree this has to do with limited documentation
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as a relative newcomter to nixos myself, I think the idea is very cool
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but generally, you don't install dependencies on nixos, if the package is actually missing them, they should be added to the package
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I will try that, thanks!
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yaoifangirl420[m >
but using it in practice requires a lot of understanding of how to make software systmes not explicitly packaged for nixos
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work in the nixos ecosystem
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and better documentation would really help with that
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btw, is there anyone here who uses nixops frequently?
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is freenode having a problem? I tried connecting several minutes ago and there was a massive netsplit. The "NickServ" user is also missing.
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Henson2: there does seem to be something going on. I was banned from one channel (that I'm not even saying anything on).
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d3z: ok, thanks for the feedback
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have the troubles with freenode passed?
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yep, since 45m
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Henson >
I've written a NixOS module for the DAViCal calendar software and wonder what the next steps should be to get it added to nixpkgs. Should I get someone else to look it over and test it before doing a PR request, or just make a PR request and take it from there?
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Henson: I'd say the latter
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(following the nixpkgs contribution guidelines ofc)
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is it intentional that llvmPackages_latest points at llvmPackages_11 instead of llvmPackages_12?
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that seems like it might be an oversight
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the commit that introduced llvmPackages_12 (7c27d4981556c0a0a5ca9cf0e8eeaf579538883e) added the release candidate, which does not qualify for _latest
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2c2e8662b91d3ffaa802350cfaa05fc756b6afa7 then followed up by moving to 12.0.0, which would've been a reasonable point to change _latest
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that makes sense. easy to overlook in 2c2e8662b91
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primeos: ^ this seems like your wheelhouse, given you merged or authored the above commits
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i wonder if there's any way to make this issue less likely, because i was thinking of adding a ruby_latest which would have the same issue. there's a nodejs_latest that at least includes a comment saying you should update it
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am i supposed to do some command to clean up /nix/var/nix/profiles/system-*-link gc-roots?
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i have about 150 of those links and i think it's causing my /nix/store to be about 200GB