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gchristensen: what do you use on NixOS for proxying stuff? Like ingress?
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I'm just getting into traefik and wanting to load balance stuff, but wondering how I could do it.
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Idon't have that problem very often in my own work, but back when I did nginx was my go-to
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matthewcroughan: TBH I wouldn't bother. Use nginx or Apache if you need to combine a dynamic site with static assets on a single machine. Traefik, etc. are much more important with virtual fabrics (k8s in particular)
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simpson: What? It's more intuitive to use traefik, personally for me.
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matthewcroughan >
The idea of configuring nginx/apache, webservers, when all I want to do is proxy traffic, makes me sick :D
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Webservers and load balancing are two different things, why should the functionality be coupled? Unix philosophy!
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It's a simpler looking config anyway, have you used traefik with nix before?
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Proxying traffic is usually an antipattern, though. Like, it's usually not what one actually wants to do. If Bob runs a proxy so that Alice can talk to Carol, wouldn't you want to try to let Alice talk directly to Carol?
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oh, easy, simplification of the configuration
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because sometimes abstraction costs, but is worth it
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matthewcroughan >
why program in python when you could program in C?
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matthewcroughan >
Same answer! :D
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simpson: How do you do basic-auth on Nginx/Apache?
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That doesn't quite follow. A possible reason to use Python over C is for memory safety. What does Traefik provide over e.g. socat? And to configure so much policy... What are you
*actually* proxying?
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Also, because most of the apps I'm dealing with run their own webservers, I'm never
*ever* using Nginx/Apache as the base webserver anyway.
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And if you're using OCI containers, those output traffic on ports. It's not an anti-pattern, it's just the way things work today.
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it simplifies everything
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it's what everyone's calling cloud-native, do you disagree with the approach?
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I mean, I live with a greybeard who hates it. But slowly I'm convincing him that this is what it means to have something that is scalable
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Yes; IMO Traefik is what Somebody Else gives you when you're using Somebody Else's k8s. It's not something I'd set up on my own. And also I don't own a datacenter, so I'm not cloud-native; I'm home-native and have a homelab.
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something where I can have 1 instance or 100 instances, and the config is basically the same.
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simpson: the fact that the config is the same whether you have 100 instances or 1 instance, that's what attracts me
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I find it simpler to set up, even on Nix.
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dycan >
hi, is ghcjs removed from nixpkgs?
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simpson: I'm going to give you a bit of Nix, can you please show me how you would do it with nginx instead?
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matthewcroughan: Nah, I'm good.
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simpson: because traefik is setting up https redirects, automatic ssl certs via letsencrypt and cloudflare api tokens
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and I even have a setup on my personal server which doesn't face the internet, with tailscale and traefik and cloudflare api tokens, it's like 10 lines.
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So I get ssl for <service>.mydomain.com via letsencrypt
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matthewcroughan >
<service>.mydomain.com points to the tailscale vpn ip, and none of my services ever touch the internet
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matthewcroughan >
I don't know how I would do any of that with nginx
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This is basically inelegant and could be done more compactly in the nix language
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Idk, have you ever used HAProxy? That's what Traefik replaces.
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matthewcroughan >
frontend and backend, nothing more
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That would make sense; HAProxy is something I used to avoid.
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matthewcroughan >
If you wanted to run 10 services on your machine, would you still be using nginx, just to reverse proxy to them?
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I don't understand, you'd still be reverse proxying if you wanted to use ghost, or node-red, or any app that has a service that runs its own webserver as a matter of design choice
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No matter what way you look at it, if you want to use modern web services, you're going to have to do a lot of work to undo their design decisions.
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simpson >
If the app server sucks, yes. I am
*extremely* opinionated here, but I used to contribute to Twisted. Check out the headers for
https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ ; they serve Twisted Web directly, including TLS termination IIRC.
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So you're interested in optimizing, I am not :P
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I just want my services to work first, then over time my config would mature.
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Primarily, ACME being easy is what I also care about.
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Part of why I recommend nginx and Apache is that they don't suck; they're quite hardened compared to the typical app server, they already have basic scaling on a single machine, etc.
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And what if Nginx/Apache are running inside of a container, you reverse proxy to it.
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I'm a high-level language developer and I only write apps in CGI/FastCGI/etc. mode, behind Apache. I'm not stupid enough to believe that I can write a good HTTP parser.
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There still is no answer to multi-processing of services in Nix.
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running 10 instances of an application, and having Nginx load balance it, I've never seen that done.
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xAr86 >
Hello, I'm affected of a bug of "rofi-file-browser" and now I need to overwrite to version 1.2.0 which I tried with: rofi = { enable = true;
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package = pkgsUnstable.rofi.override { plugins = [
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xAr86 >
pkgsUnstable.rofi-file-browser.override { version = "1.2.0"; }
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matthewcroughan >
(in nix)
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xAr86: You'll have to also provide a new `src` with an updated SHA256 hash. It's annoying, yes, but nixpkgs can't automatically know whether the updated source version is correct or not.
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simpson >
*updated version's source, rather. English is hard.
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simpson: I see your point and I've taken it on board actually.
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xAr86 >
simpson thx Will try - sorry for the code paste was trying to change formatation and accidantionally hitted enter
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matthewcroughan: I recommend a pow-wow with your system architect. They will have so much domain-specific information that I can't know about. It is sounding like y'all might find it good to invest in a dedicated team for owning containers.
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matthewcroughan >
? This is just for my personal setup.
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And personal knowledge, nothing to do with who I work for :D
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For homelab, I just don't know; I don't have good practices, and I don't do containers at home (yet?), so I'm not going to have good relevant advice.
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They'll never use Nix.
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for me, there is no difference between homelab and production, I just want to know what's possible.
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xAr86: No worries. We do appreciate folks using pastebins for multiple lines of code, and it makes you less likely to be kicked by anti-spam bots.
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xAr86 >
simpson thx will do this :)
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matthewcroughan: A Warner-style spellserver would be a good example of something I'd run at home but not in the cloud:
https://lobste.rs/s/xcjpyf/spellserver_generic_remote_code Even though this could be run behind Traefik, I'd probably never actually bother doing it. But it's a fun thought, and I can appreciate that it
*should* be possible and easy in Nix.
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simpson: what is a spellserver? 0.o
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whats the syntax in flakes for using a non-github input? like if i have gitea or something?
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{^_^} >
[nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »:
https://git.io/JYhju
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xAr86: I'm not sure which module you're configuring, but I'm guessing that it has a literal `package.out` somewhere. You could either splice around that by setting `package = { out = ...; }` or maybe hack the module.
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Drat, too slow. :T simpson--
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xAr86: simpson said this while you were temporarily gone. "I'm not sure which module you're configuring, but I'm guessing that it has a literal `package.out` somewhere. You could either splice around that by setting `package = { out = ...; }` or maybe hack the module."
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Does anyone have an average time from something being committed to master and it appearing in the nixos-20.09 channel (or any other release channel)?
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xAr86 >
Ankhers thx working on a bouncer beside bc webchat kicks me regulary
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xAr86 >
is the module I'm trying to use inside my home-manager rofi-configuration
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Oh, it's in home-manager. I only looked in nixpkgs, whoops. home-manager's rofi.nix doesn't have any clues; it doesn't do anything inappropriate.
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{^_^} >
[nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 pushed to master « python3Packages.wakeonlan: change license to MIT »:
https://git.io/JYjfT
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simpson >
Ankhers:
https://status.nixos.org/ has a way to spot-check. I wonder whether gchristensen or other community metrics folks are tracking this in a histogram somewhere.
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supersandro2000 >
^ simpson Ankhers
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simpson thx anyway :)
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supersandro2000++ I guess take history-v2 and run statistics on it?
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supersandro2000's karma got increased to 44
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[rfc39-record] @grahamc pushed commit from rfc39 to main « Automated team sync results. »:
https://git.io/JYjJz
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simpson: I am not sure what you mean
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supersandro2000: I might have misunderstood Ankhers, but we could ask about the "average" or "mean" time taken to update the channel, which would be the total sum of time taken, divided by the number of updates. (Indeed I'd ask about other statistical measures, but I like numbers.)
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supersandro2000, simpson: Thanks!
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Ankhers >
simpson: Yes, that is what I was talking about.
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Ankhers >
Asking about rather.
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Ankhers >
Also, how stable are the nixos-small channels?
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[rfc39-record] @grahamc pushed commit from rfc39 to main « Automated team sync results. »:
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How do I put an overrideAttr into a packageOverrides?
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matthewcroughan >
Is that possible?
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If I want to override the attributes of a package, does that have to be an overlay?
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Does anybody know how you're supposed to install udev rules in nixpkgs?
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<matthewcroughan "Does anybody know how you're sup"> yep
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any ideas?
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commit hooks flood the chat, don't they?
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demostanis[m]: some clients have options to filter messages by nick, channel, pattern ;)
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matthewcroughan: services.udev.packages = [ pkg.that-contains-your-udev-rule ];
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demostanis: Since you are accessing via the matrix bridge, I know that you can just ignore the user in element, assuming you are using that client.
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etu: I just threw on the latest version of Jellyfin (nixos-unstable-small), and it seemed like media scan was broken. What version are you running?
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eyJhb: Does it show the version somewhere in the interface or do I have to look at the running process store path? :p
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I was running 10.7.1, if you want to see click the upper right corner, then under admin then dashboard
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There it should display i t
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btw. etu thetvdb will be removed :/
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supersandro2000 >
WTF. my client just crashed because of the net split
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boolman >
Hi, im trying to write a nix shell script, for some reason this doesnt work in the script but works in the cli, #! nix-shell -i bash -I nixpkgs=~/git/nixos/nixpkgs -p openjdk7
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boolman >
the script cant find the path for java
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colemickens >
Ronny: often times users will have different configuration.nix files that import common modules
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colemickens >
Otherwise you can do certain things with `(if config.networking.hostName == "foo" then pkgs.foo else pkgs.fooBeta)`.
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ronny >
colemickens: i already have that, currently i have to manually write a different file per system to select system specific modules, i'd like a way to figure what system im on as a starting point
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It's hard to know exactly what you mean, but I'd highly recommend not trying to use the build machine hostname to change config.
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colemickens >
I generally suggest people seek to remove build impurities rather than introduce more.
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colemickens >
Flakes makes this pattern really nice, and the tooling makes it so you can omit the hostname, etc.
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ronny >
sometimes i want to build a vm for a different machine from the config - the basic idea is that i have a git repo for all my machine configs, and on each system it auto picks, but i can run the builds on a different system to create vms to check
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sure, that's what I mean too
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CRTified[m] >
I think the expression posted by colemickens is the one closest to what you want right now
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CRTified[m] >
Maybe look at nixops then?
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ronny >
then im just missing a detail on how to take those settings from there and putting them ito a cli command
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* colemickens
doesn't have the heart to try to walk through a full non-flakey example
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Without flakes, I still think I'd recommend a per-machine-config.nix that you symlink into place.
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colemickens >
because even if you DO use that conditional logic...
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colemickens >
you still need a place to define the machine hostname, right?
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colemickens >
you've sorta just moved the problem by burying it under conditionals that depend on some ohter piece of your nix config ;)
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ronny >
i dont have conditionals a lot, i have one module per "hostname" and modules per software/user set - i really just want to get rid of that symlink i put in place imperatively
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CRTified[m] >
You could have one configuration.nix where you import a param.nix with just `{hostname = "myAwesomeMachine";}` in it :)
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CRTified[m] >
That's how I'm doing it
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that sounds like even more work than a single symlink tho?
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colemickens >
just not sure I understand exactly what the goal is
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colemickens >
if it's just convenience, honestly just adopt flakes, you'll be happy
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colemickens >
`nixos-rebuild switch --flake github:colemickens/nixcfg` will automatically switch to the config defined in my flake that matches the current machine hostname
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colemickens >
but I can also build a specific machine by running `nix build github:colemickens/nixcfg#toplevels.some-hostname`
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ronny >
thats what i was missing then
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ronny >
i should totally go flakes
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ronny >
curently what i do is write a machines/current.nix which really just declares a import to ./realname.nix
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ronny >
btw, how does flakes manage local checkouts?
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ronny >
(i typically have my nix configs checked out in my home, and symlink it to etc, there probably is a better way by now)
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ah, `github:colemickens/nixcfg` is a flake ref
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colemickens >
`/some/path` works too
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ronny >
i see, how would one use a flake "unlockd" as in use whatever the checkout on the system is right now?
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colemickens >
just use the path as I mentioned
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colemickens >
`nix build /home/cole/code/nixcfg#toplevels.slynux` is going to build my machine from that directory, with whatever changes there are (it just wont pick up any files that havent been added to git)
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colemickens >
anyway, I need to sleep, but good luck!
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CRTified[m] >
What was that command to locate the derivation that provides files/shared objects again?
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CRTified[m] >
(here in IRC)
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CRTified[m] >
I'm trying to get teams running and autoPatchelfHook is missing three shared objects
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dutchie >
then i can just do `sudo nixos-rebuild switch` and it picks up whatever changes i have locally, committed or not
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dutchie >
(though they at least have to be `git add`ed)
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ronny >
thanks, i'll dig a bit more later
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<
{^_^} >
[nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed commit from @beardhatcode to release-20.09 « nextcloud: 21.0.0 -> 21.0.1 »:
https://git.io/JOeTF
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dutchie >
feel free to ping me about any questions you have in my config
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srk >
,locate libssl.so
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{^_^} >
Found in packages: openssl, robomongo, scilab-bin, libressl_3_0, netcat-openbsd, openssl-chacha
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srk >
CRTified[m]: ^
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CRTified[m] >
Thanks srk :)
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CRTified[m] >
I just noticed that there's something entirely different wrong - the store path got corrupted o.o
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hi all, have anyone faced problems with nix on foreign os after upgrading to musl based nix builds ?
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sss2: nixStatic?
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sss2 >
supersandro2000, mmm ?
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supersandro2000, on this new build nix just stopping work for me
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sss2 >
supersandro2000, with weird errors, but not linkage errors
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supersandro2000, nix-env i mean, i am still able to downgrade to working version via "nix updade-nix"
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sss2 >
*"nix upgrade-nix"
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sss2: I would need some more details to help you
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minute, i will broke ir one more time
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>> unsafeDiscardStringContext
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no idea why this happens but you are not the only one the last days
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fortunately "old" version still works
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sss2 >
maybe it is wise to remove new musl based build from nixpkgs ?
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sss2: can you run the failing command with --show-trace again?
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on working installation ?
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where it fails
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sss2: I have the same issue; nix-env -u always wants to upgrade nix-2.3.10 to nix-2.3.10-x86_64-unknown-linux-musl, and then nix-env -i/-u fails with that error until I --rollback
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I have a Python environment defined as `env = pkgs.python3.withPackages (ps: with ps; [ jupyterlab pandas ...])`. Now I'd need to add some non-Python packages to `PATH` so that when some executable in my Python environment is called, they'd find some other packages (`xelatex` in particular). What would be a convenient way to modify the Python environment so that these other packages are added to PATH in that way? Now
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I just used `runCommand` with `makeWrapper` to create another environment where I have wrapped chosen executables.
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JaakkoLuttinen[m: I would assume that the result of withPackages and its .env are both overridable such that `(withPackages ...).overrideAttrs (oa: { buildInputs = [ foo ]; })` would work fine.
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srhb: Interesting! I'll try.
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I am trying to make a derivation for a game, and I have a neat little sh script from upstream to fetch the game assets
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afontain_ >
can I just reuse it?
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afontain_ >
that would mean give it access to the internet at build time
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afontain_: Are the assets static?
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srhb >
afontain_: In other words, can you predict the output hash? If so, you can do it like any other fetcher in nixpkgs.
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afontain_ >
it seems it is for a version of the game
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afontain_ >
one can download the game_$version.torrent and get that
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though maybe it would be simpler to just include the bare minimum to reach the main menu and let it autodownload stuff
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afontain_: That does sound simpler. But the answer is yes, you could do it like any other fetcher iff the output hash is deterministic. Any derivation that can predict its output is allowed to use the network.
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srhb: `(pkgs.python3.withPackages (ps: [...])).overrideAttrs (oldAttrs: { buildInputs = oldAttrs.buildInputs ++ [ foo bar ]; })` <-- this didn't add foo and bar to PATH when running executables in the Python environment.. 🤔
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cinimod >
Indeed there is no executable or library
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srhb >
JaakkoLuttinen[m: Don't you want to override the ".env" attribute of the withPackages result?
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afontain_ >
srhb: would I need to write my on
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srhb >
JaakkoLuttinen[m: I'm unsure whether you're using this in a shell or a build environment
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afontain_ >
*own fetcher?
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FRidh >
JaakkoLuttinen[m: use override to override the call to buildEnv, instead of overrideAttrs, which overrides the call to mkDerivation
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srhb >
Sorry, it's an overloaded term for "some derivation that can be more or less generic and has an outputHash and uses the network to get stuff"
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cinimod >
answering my own question `callCabal2nixWithOptions` with `--benchmark`
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cinimod >
Oh no it still fails
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cinimod >
So it actually builds the benchmark successfully and then gives the error
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cinimod >
There's probably some nix thingy like `doBenchmark` that I should be using
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afontain_: So essentially it's just `runCommandNoCC "my-asset-fetcher" { outputHash = "..."; } "./the-script-from-upstream"
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+/- some $out creation :)
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srhb: Hmm.. I'm not quite sure. I'm using my env definition in a systemd service ExecStart. Something like: `ExecStart = "${env}/bin/jupyterhub-singleuser";`
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JaakkoLuttinen[m: And what is env? `withPackages (...)` or `(withPackages (...)).env` ?
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srhb: `env = (pkgs.python3.withPackages (ps: [...])).overrideAttrs (oldAttrs: { buildInputs = oldAttrs.buildInputs ++ [ foo bar ]; })`
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(Or without that overrideAttrs stuff..)
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So, `env = (pkgs.python3.withPackages (ps: [...]))`
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srhb >
JaakkoLuttinen[m: I
_think_ that'd work if it were the override of .env instead, but I don't know the python infra that well.
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* So, `env = pkgs.python3.withPackages (ps: [...])`
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JaakkoLuttinen[m >
FRidh: Ok, thanks! However, I couldn't figure out how to use override.. `env = (pkgs.python3.withPackages (ps: [...])).override ??WHAT_HERE??`
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cinimod >
Is there a way of patching the cabal file to replace "benchmark" with "executable" somehow or am I clutching at straws
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FRidh >
JaakkoLuttinen[m: indeed
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withPackages returns a python.buildEnv
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FRidh: `env = pkgs.python3.buildEnv.override { extraLibs = [ pkgs.python3Packages.jupyterlab pkgs.foo pkgs.bar ]; };` didn't wrap Jupyter Lab executable in such a way foo and bar would be in when called. At least looks like that to me. Also, isn't this equivalent to `env = pkgs.python3.withPackages (ps: [ ps.jupyterlab pkgs.foo pkgs.bar ]);` so maybe I was missing something how the override should've been used to get
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a different result than `withPackages`..? Or I'm doing something wrong..
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srhb >
JaakkoLuttinen[m: fwiw you could use makeWrapperArgs instead of extraLibs
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hexa- >
what was attribute one needed to build to run through nixos tests interactively?
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srhb >
JaakkoLuttinen[m: But honestly, stepping back, I think your approach with external wrapper was fine. Ideally the individual package that needs some external PATH element should be overriden directly, but in this case you could either wrap externally (as you did) internally (as suggested with the buildEnv override) or just set systemd.services.foo.paths
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hexa-: driverInteractive (in newer nixpkgs)
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{^_^} >
srhb's karma got increased to 146
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FRidh >
JaakkoLuttinen[m: non-python packages get dropped from that buildEnv and are thus not included
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I misread your initial message that it was about non-python packages
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FRidh >
passing makeWrapperArgs is to be used for that
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FRidh srhb `env = (pkgs.python3.withPackages (ps: with ps; [ ...])).override { makeWrapperArgs = with pkgs; [ "--prefix" "PATH" ":" "${foo}/bin" ]; }` worked perfectly! Thanks a lot! 👍️
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JaakkoLuttinen[m: yay :)
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eyJhb >
pinpox: First Hackernews, then the world.
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srhb >
pinpox: tazjin's vague teaser is especially intriguing :P
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afontain_ >
I have a package that's under CC-by-sa-2.5
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afontain_ >
but licenses.cc-by-sa25 doesn't exist
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afontain_ >
(unlike cc-by-sa30 and cc-by-sa40)
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tazjin >
srhb: we need a few more months, but there are already places where you can kind of follow along with what's happening :)
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srhb >
tazjin: I have been spying on tvl.fyi -- very interesting! :)
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eyJhb >
What is tazjin hacking together atm.?
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eyJhb >
How.. Did you engage people from spotify?
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tazjin >
eyJhb: I used to work there many moons ago
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eyJhb >
Sounded like you put in a add :p
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afontain_ >
whoops nevermind
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afontain_ >
I forgot a dash
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eyJhb >
I actually thought you wanted to rewrite nix package manager in Rust tazjin
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eyJhb: we're not building another monolith, but yes there is (some) Rust
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stevenroose: haven't updated your PR?
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stevenroose >
Izorkin: you're persistent :D How about I take a look tomorrow? :)
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stevenroose >
Then I can (1) split pkg and module, (2) try update the pkg to 3.1.0 and (3) take a look at your suggestions for the module.
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heyarne[m] >
i'm using nixos with the standard gnome config on 20.09. i have a problem where the weather widget always shows "weather information is currently unavailable". i have found some info how this can be fixed in other distros, but none seem to help - is here the right place to ask for help? :)
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{^_^} >
[nixpkgs] @sternenseemann pushed to haskell-updates « haskellPackages.fuzzyfind: remove unnecessary override »:
https://git.io/JOerB
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seba09 >
trying out a `nix build` of a flake, fails with: error: flake 'git+file:///home/seba/repo/cncli' does not provide attribute 'packages.x86_64-linux.defaultPackage.x86_64-linux', 'legacyPackages.x86_64-linux.defaultPackage.x86_64-linux' or 'defaultPackage.x86_64-linux'
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seba09 >
what am I doing wrong?
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afontain_ >
srhb: sorry for the ping, but I'm still trying to work around runCommandNoCC. The issue I have is that it expects the result to be a single file
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srhb >
afontain_: Hmm, not sure I understand? mkdir $out && cd $out ?
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srhb >
afontain_: $out will be the nix store path your derivation should produce.
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srhb >
s/should/must
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afontain_ >
let me paste this
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afontain_ >
so specifically output path '/nix/store/50mb75967rhjp5nan8dm2lr12awhgckq-unvanquished-assets' should be a non-executable regular file
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afontain_ >
hmm, I'll make sure it's not aria2c printing the message
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srhb >
afontain_: --keep-failed and inspect the build dir to determine what the actual structure is. Maybe it's just marked +x or something.
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gulbanana >
i'm new to nix and trying to learn how the shell works. the README for a package i'm using, "miso", instructs me to use a default.nix to import their code and then run "nix-shell -A env". this works, but i don't understand this "env" attribute or why it's needed
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gulbanana >
without it, the import doesn't happen even if i copy default.nix to shell.nix
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afontain_ >
it exists, but it's empty
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srhb >
afontain_: And if you run the aria command outside of a nix build (with some other nonexistent directory as -d) what does it produce?
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aria >
(totally just got pinged off that :P)
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srhb >
aria: Apologies :( I'll write it out next time.
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aria >
srhb: no stress lol
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afontain_ >
it doesn't change the outcome
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srhb >
afontain_: Let's try running t outside of the build so we can see what it actually produces (for some $tmp/foo output directory)
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afontain_ >
output path that the "'/nix/store/50mb75967rhjp5nan8dm2lr12awhgckq-unvanquished-assets' should be a non-executable regular file" message is not coming from aria2c
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srhb >
That is indeed nix.
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srhb >
afontain_: Oh duh, this is my bad.
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afontain_ >
* and it confirms that …
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srhb >
afontain_: You'll want outputHashMode = "recursive";
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srhb >
I forgot it isn't the default.
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afontain_ >
I've tried to do a wget -O $out, and that worked thoug
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afontain_ >
*though
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srhb >
Apologies. :)
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afontain_ >
that's fine, I'd never have figured out anyway ^^
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srhb >
Then you would have :)
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seba09 >
is there a nice guide for flakes?
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seba09 >
trying to use a flake with no success, I hoped this is going to be little bit more straight forward :-/
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etu >
seba09: It's still experimental and not standardized through the RFC process, so I would stay away :)
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seba09 >
etu: I want to use a package that is flake, but it doesn't build because of: error: flake 'git+file:///home/seba/repo/cncli' does not provide attribute 'packages.x86_64-linux.defaultPackage.x86_64-linux', 'legacyPackages.x86_64-linux.defaultPackage.x86_64-linux' or 'defaultPackage.x86_64-linux'
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gulbanana: the env attribute is an arbitrary name, it has nothing to do with the default.nix vs. shell.nix here, if no shell.nix exists it'll use default.nix
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gulbanana: So what do you mean by "the import doesn't happen"?
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srhb >
ie what did you expect to see, and what actually happened.
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exarkun >
don't worry, attention spans are short over there
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siraben >
hodapp: the people
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pie_ >
so i ran gns3 but trying to start openwrt in the vmcrashesthevm:I
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sterni: I test builds using e.g. NIX_PATH=nixpkgs=/home/srk/git/nixpkgs/haskell-updates nix-build -A haskellPackages.cereal-time when adding jailbreaks/overrides so no need to re-test
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sterni: I might submit one more dontCheck for update-nix-fetchgit
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srk: sure, I do believe you, just a second build doesn't seem like a bad idea :)
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gulbanana >
<srhb> gulbanana: So what do you mean by "the import doesn't happen"? | well, i'm confused enough that my question may itself be confusing. i don't really understand whether nix-shell uses default.nix or not
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gulbanana >
if it does, perhaps "env" is an attribute defined by the expression i've got in default.nix
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gulbanana >
(which runs callCabal2nix)
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gulbanana: That's exactly right. Given no filename, nix0
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nix-shell will use shell.nix if it exists, otherwise default.nix, otherwise fail.
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srk >
sterni: yup :) they should be reproducible.. /me tried to add --check and it exploded /o\
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srhb >
gulbanana: The -A argument specifies an attribute set in the file evaluated, here env.
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that explains a lot, i thought the two were mutually exclusive
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i would like to have "nix-shell" work without the need for an extra argument though. i'll try writing a shell.nix that uses pkgs.mkShell and evaluates the default.nix's expression with .env appended
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srhb: guess haskellPackages are not deterministic
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sterni >
maybe parallel building?
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srhb >
gulbanana: If .env with default.nix does what you want, your shell.nix should just be (import ./default.nix).env
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gulbanana >
perfect
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gulbanana >
hmm, would i be able to add another import above that to get nixpkgs?
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srhb >
sterni: I think most of the impurities were weeded out a few years ago, but yes, parallel building was the main offender
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gulbanana >
with import <nixpkgs> {};
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gulbanana >
(import ./default.nix).env
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gulbanana: That doesn't really make much sense, since you're not using any attributes exposed by the "with"
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srhb >
gulbanana: So it's redundant.
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gulbanana >
i'd like to also install an extra package (haskell-language-server) which isn't provided by the default.nix
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srhb >
gulbanana: Ah, then you will need something like mkShell indeed :)
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sterni >
srhb: (sorry tab completion fail meant srk)
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srhb >
sterni: Oh :P
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sterni >
srhb: wait we reverted parrallelbuilding in haskellPackages
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sterni >
well I wasn't even aware we had it at some point :p
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srhb >
We did, and it was very very deterministically indeterministic.
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JaakkoLuttinen[m >
Can I convert a relative path in nix to a string that contains the absolute path? That is, something like: `MYENV = some_magic_function ./../..;` and `MYENV` would become a string that is the absolute path to that directory (e.g., `/home/jluttine/foobar`).
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gulbanana >
this "shell.nix" gave me what i want, i think
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gulbanana >
with import <nixpkgs> {};
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gulbanana >
inputsFrom = [ pkgs.haskell-language-server (import ./default.nix).env ];
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gulbanana >
pkgs.mkShell {
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sterni >
JaakkoLuttinen[m: toString yourPath
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JaakkoLuttinen[m >
sterni: WOW, thanks! Heh, it was so simple and intuitive, should've guessed/tried 😆
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sterni >
np, it is not really obvious, really
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sterni >
you just have to know it behaves that way
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srhb >
gulbanana: Hmm, inputsFrom sounds wrong to me (though it'll work for the second one because you're using .env) -- ah well, if it works for now :)
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it could definitely be wrong. i am fumbling in the dark here :)
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{^_^} >
[nixpkgs] @sternenseemann pushed commit from @cideM to haskell-updates « haskellPackages.capability: unbreak »:
https://git.io/JOeAp
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cwnovusordoseclo >
Should openssh make an ssh(d).service?
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cwnovusordoseclo >
All I have on my system (with broken ssh) is sshd.socket
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hexa- >
sshd.service, yes
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cwnovusordoseclo >
Any ideas why that's not there?
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cwnovusordoseclo >
Its enabled just the same as my other systems.
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is there any chance you set services.openssh.startWhenNeeded in your configuration?
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the socket activation would make it disappear from the running services list
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<gustavderdrache "is there any chance you set serv"> No, just .enable and .listenaddresses. no difference when I only use .enable
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gustavderdrache >
dang, i was really hoping it would be easy
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cwnovusordoseclo >
That smells like it's failing because no sshd.service to me
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cwnovusordoseclo >
Me too. I've been fighting this for a couple of months and having to console in sucks azz
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supersandro2000: I pulled the apple_sdk.frameworks cleanups out of our pyobjc PRs into that so it's easier to review, but also did some work to try to make it so that new frameworks are listed as including all their deps properly
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dumb question but how do I overwrite the nixos/configuration.nix
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simpson >
Guest78269: It's a regular file, so you should be able to use your preferred text editor. What isn't working and what have you tried?
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Guest78269 >
Hi simpson thank you for responding
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Guest78269 >
I'm using nixos on virtualbox
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Guest78269 >
I'm attempting to edit the nixos/configuration.nix file but it's not allowing me to save
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tpw_rules >
are you on the livecd? are you using sudo so you have write permission?
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Guest78269 >
yea I did the import
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Guest78269 >
import appliance
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Guest78269 >
the .ova file
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pie_ >
whats the correct way to get NIX_PATH set and nix working in a containre?
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sterni >
pie_: you should be able to set nix.nixPath in the container's configuration, right?
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pie_ >
yeah but how does nixos make it work without me needing to set that explicitly
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pie_ >
i havent found the right thing
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pie_ >
wait what, TIL
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pie_ >
vpsAdminOS is an operating system that serves as a hypervisor for container virtualization. It is based on not-os and NixOS.
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pie_ >
anyway yeah nixpath stuff...
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pie_ >
trying to gogle stuf flike container nixpath isnt yielding anything useful...
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SumnerEvans[m] >
After upgrading to Sway 1.6, mako does not start automatically whenever a notification comes across dbus, and pinentry doesn't automatically pop up as a GUI, either. Is anyone else experiencing this issue?
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is it me, or does `nix flake update` skip inputs where `inputs.foo.flake = false`?
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pie_ >
huh ok it looks like root-login isnt a normal login and so doesnt get NIX_PATH set up??
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pie_ >
here i thought i was nuts
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.cache/nix/tarballs/038n2vdk9fmv4pp4pn0jiv1agxdikj9jh5dmr8nrnrdzyxd08ral-file.lock': Permission denied
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pie_ >
ok looks like it was because i wasnt restarting the container, just using extra-container's switch configuration feature
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fresheyeball >
I have a user who has this error
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fresheyeball >
I cannot repro it
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yaymukund >
I've added obs-wlrobs to the inputsFrom of a shell.nix and run `nix-shell`, so why is there no /nix/store/*wlrobs*/?
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fresheyeball >
anyone seen lock file permissions issues?
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yaymukund >
oh ok, so changing it to a nativeBuildInputs generated it
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Mic92: aanderse: When will it be possible to merge PR #117456 ?
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How do I get this flake input `browsersync = { url = "github:srid/browsersync-nix"; flake = false; };` into a nix repl so I can inspect its properties?
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srid >
builtins.getFlakes doesn't know anything about non-flake inputs
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aanderse >
Izorkin: I'll take another look tonight
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aanderse >
I'm pretty sure it's fine to merge now
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aanderse: After I want to open a new PR for redis.
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Izorkin: sure i can do that
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i can make some time tonight or tomorrow
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aanderse: thanks.
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Izorkin: no problem. thank you :-)
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gchristensen: ping?
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dhess: retry in 30m :)
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__monty__: you about?
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(I added you as a reviewer on a PR that you may be interested in owing to your work on bumping the SDK version and I'd be interested in your feedback)
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gchristensen: never mind, it was operator error :)
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gchristensen: how do udev rules work in nixpkgs?
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matthewcroughan >
I can't seem to prove or disprove that they exist, when a certain package is in the system environment
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matthewcroughan >
ls /etc/udev/rules.d does not contain the package result's $out/etc/udev/rules.d
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cransom >
they exist, but nixpkgs itself won't install them into /etc/udev.
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cransom >
there'd need to be a nixos module to make that happen
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matthewcroughan >
Oh really?
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matthewcroughan >
So how are you supposed to make use of the udev rules in packages?
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cransom >
in nixos? or outside of?
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cransom: in nixos
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matthewcroughan >
The installPhase here installs udev rules, but how to I make use of them?
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lukegb: what's that?
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matthewcroughan >
That compressed size though
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that's some good compression
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cransom >
matthewcroughan: look into `services.udev.packages`
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cransom: I have, if I instantiate that option, it tries to install udev rules for
*unspecified* packages
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matthewcroughan >
do if I put openrgb in there, it tries to install unrelated udev rules and promptly fails
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nixpulvis >
Is this a channel for questions and general discussion?
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matthewcroughan: do you have output/config snippet? what are 'unspecified' packages?
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cransom: sure, want to ssh in and watch?
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matthewcroughan >
read-only
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matthewcroughan >
ssh ro-aNY3ZYyB6GDXbw3U3CGe6Kn7W@lon1.tmate.io
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i'd be happy with a gist/pastebin.
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cransom: the output is massive, sec
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matthewcroughan >
This is the specified package
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matthewcroughan >
this is the output
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how do I get a hold of the path to libc++.a inside my mkDerivation?
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matthewcroughan >
cransom: oh.. maybe that was it
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matthewcroughan >
But this is the udev rule, the package I guess can't handle it
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did you read the error at the bottom of the nixos-rebuild?
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I'm brand new to this ecosystem, but excited to try it out. I'm wondering if there's a place where the default packages are documented... basically I watched the video where it tested a hello world program, and it said that it was scoping the machine to only have the hello world program, but then proceeded to use `grep`. I'm wondering where `grep` came from in that example.
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matthewcroughan: `/bin/chmod is called in udev rules but is not executable or does not exist` .
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does anyone know the best way to wrap a binary used as the ExecStart command for a NixOS systemd service? I know I can use makeWrapper, but where would I use it?
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cransom: yeah I did and came to the same conclusion as you initially did, after sleeping on it haha
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last night I just assumed it was broken, too tired
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> doesn't udev already have native rule sets to chmod a file without shelling out?
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matthewcroughan >
Unsure
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{^_^} >
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cransom >
matthewcroughan: it does. `KERNEL=="vboxdrv", OWNER="root", GROUP="vboxusers", MODE="0660", TAG+="systemd"
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cransom >
unless there needs to be more than that.
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matthewcroughan >
cransom: all of the rules in that package need to be present, I believe
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matthewcroughan >
I mean, I can probably just shove them into extraRules, if I find the exact ones that I need.
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cransom >
sure. but upstream is backing a bad shell user by shelling out to chmod when udev can make the permissions change directly.
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cransom >
you can add your own fixup in a fixup phase for the package.
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cransom >
+ submit a change upstream to not be naive about their approach.
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matthewcroughan >
I'm not sure I fully understand the bad usage
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matthewcroughan >
can you explain it a bit more
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cransom >
there's no need to invoke a shell to run /bin/chmod. you can set file ownership directly from udev with 'MODE=0555' (or your desired permissions) on the line instead of RUN=/bin/chmod<etc>
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cransom >
if upstream wouldn't accept that patch, you can hack around it yourself by changing the package in a fixupphase to replace '/bin/chmod' with the right path, but it's not the best solution.
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turns out containers set NIX_REMOTE in the shell but not at postBootCommand time in stage 2
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{^_^} >
#40355 (by cillianderoiste, 2 years ago, closed): Imperative containers broken on 18.03/nixos-unstable
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rmcgibbo[m] >
If I have a script that has a nix-shell shebang (with multiple packages pulled in via -p), what's the easiest way to convert that to something that's properly installed into the nix store? Is there are fixupPhase that will rewrite shebang/header?
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it looks like a whole lot of boilerplate surrounding the top level configuration.nix and significantly more difficult than eg musnix where I git-clone and just import it
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[nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage2nix: update list of broken packages to fix evaluation on Hydra »:
https://git.io/JOv6Q
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[nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »:
https://git.io/JOviv
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__monty__ >
lukegb: A wild
__monty__ appears o.O
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cwnovusordoseclo >
I'll take you up on that tomberek thanks
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[nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « haskell-dependent-sum-aeson-orphans: add jailbreak to allow latest version of constraints »:
https://git.io/JOvP0
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[nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « haskell-reflex-dom-core: add jailbreak to allow latest version of constraints »:
https://git.io/JOvPQ
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[nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage2nix: keep the old version of refinery around for haskell-language-server »:
https://git.io/JOvX5
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__monty__ >
lukegb: Left a comment. Can't really be of much help yet unfortunately.
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[nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « all-cabal-hashes: update to Hackage at 2021-04-09T18:32:26Z »:
https://git.io/JOvMx
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What's the fastest way with `nix-env` to get a rust project building with `cargo build`? I always get "error: linker `cc` not found" even if I install `gcc` or `clang` with `nix-env`.
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Important: I don't want to build the project with nix. I just want to use "cargo build".
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simpson >
Is there (community) documentation on the homebrew tools available in nixpkgs for (proprietary) game consoles? I see backup tools like `wiimms-iso-tools`, but I was thinking about Nix for
*building* homebrew apps.
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Hi. In a nix-shell, how do I enable core dumps? "ulimit -c unlimited" returns
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"bash: ulimit: core file size: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted"
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__monty__: no worries! Thanks for taking a look
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eacameron >
does clang come with a libstdc++.a and link against it?
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is it possible to change the timeout on remote builders? I have a machine that's sometimes set up and sometimes isn't, and when it isn't, `nix build` just hangs for a while
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hyx >
Good evening everyone. I have a beginner question
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hyx >
I have a wireguard server running at home behind DDNS
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hyx >
and a peer outside that loses connection each day because wireguard doesn't refresh its endpoint once resolved
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hyx >
how can I repeatedly trigger this?
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hyx: are you on NixOS?
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hyx >
radvendii: Yes
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hyx >
I mean I could systemctl restart the interface, but I think that would break all running connections
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tejing >
it should be pretty straightforward to create a systemd timer as they suggest on the archwiki
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hyx >
mhh find /nix/store -name reresolve-dns.sh doesn't find anything
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radvendii >
if wireguard is configured through NixOS, the configuration will be read-only
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hyx >
Maybe it's not shipped?
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radvendii >
does the script alter the configuration?
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But I don't think I have it in the nix store
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hyx: oh. the archlinux article made it seem to me like it was actually overwriting the config file, but it's definitely not
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How can I even find the files of a derivation running in the current-system?
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hyx >
So if I wanted to find the path of the wireguard-tools I'm using now
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radvendii >
readlink and/or realpath
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radvendii >
and/or which
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radvendii >
readlink $(which wg) works for me
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Mhh no trace of reresolve-dns.sh
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wireguard-tools doesn't package up the contrib folder
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hyx >
Guess I'll add the script manually first
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Where can I find libc++abi.a?
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Alright I think I can make it work now, thanks
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sterni >
eacameron: libcxxabi
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supersandro2000 >
,locate libc++abi.a
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supersandro2000 >
^ eacameron
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Found in packages: libcxxabi
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sterni: Thanks. How can I get at the one specifically for llvm_10?
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eacameron >
Also, it seems this package is trying to link both libstdc++.a and libstdc++abi.a... does that even make sense?
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eacameron: llvmPackages_10.libcxxabi
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qyliss: Aha thanks
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Hm I wonder if this package is failing because of issues in clang-wrapper. It's trying to disable all default libs and then adding its own bundled stdc++ lib and c++abi lib. But I'm getting duplicate symbol errors when linking and it's clearly trying to link the same libraries from a nix path. Is our wrapper messing this up? cc clever
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Notice that it's trying to link a nix version of libc++.a as well:
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eacameron: what stdenv are you using?
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clang10Stdenv
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sterni >
you probably want to use llvmPackages_10.libcxxStdenv I'd think
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sterni: What's the difference?
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eacameron: libcxxStdenv uses libcxxClang which already knows about libc++ and probably doesn't ever try to link against libcstdc++
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How can I get a list of all files in a directory and it's subfolders? I'm trying to write an expression, that runs pandoc on all files from a dir, rendering them to a different dir with the same path structure
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pinpox: lib.filesystem.listFilesRecursive
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eacameron: nice, didn't know about that one, thank you.
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pinpox: you might want to do that as part of a build with `find`, though
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doing that at evaluation time is a little bit weird
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gchristensen: Yeah, I could just generate a bash script. I somehow wanted do it with nix to learn more about it. But I guess a build step + find makes mores sense
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Ericson2314 see my message above
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eacameron ok!
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Zoom[m] >
Hey everyone. Stupid question. I was ask to modify a changelog to accompany my PR to nixpkgs. Where is it? :P
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How can I specify a priority between binary caches? I tried with mkForce like this:
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pinpox >
I want to use the default where possible and only fall back to my own cache if the default misses
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Zoom[m]: docs/release-notes.xml
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eacameron >
I can't figure out why ue4 build wants to link against libC++ and libstdc++.a:
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eacameron >
cc Ericson2314
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eacameron >
this is using llvmPackages_10.libcxxStdenv
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sterni: are you sure it's not `/nixos/doc/manual/release-notes/rl-2105.xml`?
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eacameron: I will be a minute, sorry
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Zoom[m]: no, you're right :)
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gchristensen: I'm trying to run find in a builder.sh script. But it seems to be missing, what package do I need to add to $PATH?
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pie_ >
pinpox: realpath $(which find)
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pie_ >
unless I missed some context and thats not what you need
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pie_ >
for me that returns /nix/store/70qfzyc5hmvssj7d0dqkqhn827xwgmy3-findutils-4.7.0/bin/find
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pie_ >
so youre looking for findutils probably
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pie_: Thanks!
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pinpox >
pie_: another question, if I specify "src = ./content" shouldn't all files in that directory be available in the builder.sh script?
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pie_ >
> builtins.readFile (pkgs.runCommand "f" { buildInputs = [ pkgs.which ]; } "realpath $(which find) > $out").out
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cannot read '/nix/store/gw0jk883ah0vgxmgvrqjhqifxrf8rz9h-f', since path '/nix/store/d69vwzg27dgg5z01njha8r0iy9rwh32f-f.drv' is not valid, at (string):494:1
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Zoom[m] >
Thanks, sterni
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pie_ >
pinpox: you can do stuff with path (I dont know if there any best practices for the following) but something we also tend to do is just sbstitute ${findutils}/bin/find where you use the tool
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pie_ >
also I dont
_think_ you should need to manually set path but I'm not sure offhand
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pie_ >
I havent actually written builder.sh myself
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pie_ >
but I just dont remember seeing that
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pie_ >
so there should be another way
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gchristensen: Did you ever find a way to have hydra use a different drive for storing its data?
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pie_ >
(I could be wrong)
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pinpox >
pie_: find seems to work fine though, but the "ls" I put in the builder.sh shows nothing
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pie_ >
presumably because the directory is empty
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pinpox >
I thought it should at least show what's in "src"
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pie_ >
since youre writing a builder manually, IIUC, setup.sh doesnt get run, and so none of the usual conveniences of the generic builder get run
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pie_ >
so what you get is a variable $src and you have to maually copy stuff
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pinpox >
oh ok, that should be enougth though to run a simple pandoc
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pinpox >
pie_: nice, thank you $src works.
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pie_ >
the latter being what handles $src and the former doing the cp
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pie_ >
this is a good file to get familiar with over time
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huh
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pie_ >
or more like oh yes :D
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how do i know if osmesa is enabled within nixpkgs?
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cole-h >
...enabled?
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yeah so there's and enableOSMesa parameter in the mesa derivation
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i see no interface to customizing mesa
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> mesa.override { enableOSMesa = false; }
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"<derivation /nix/store/nf8jfvhdmci5zjfcyhfvywkdyxn204n8-mesa-21.0.1.drv>"
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oh gotcha, i am still getting use to overrides
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cole-h's karma got increased to 140
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how does one reverse a list in the nix language? I mean I can write it myself with a recursvie function, but a bit surprised it's not builtin
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> :p lib.reverseList [ 1 2 3 ] # jasom
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simpson: ah, where is lib defined?
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oh, lib has foldr which is even simpler for what I need