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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #107973 → pythonPackages.r2pipe: Fix build → https://git.io/JLHSD
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed commit from @aszlig to master « pythonPackages.r2pipe: Fix build »: https://git.io/JLhXM
<bbigras> What is the equivalent of `nix build --argstr system aarch64-linux --file ./modules activationPackage` but in a derivation?
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<infinisil> bbigras: Probably `(import ./modules { system = "aarch64-linux"; }).activationPackage`
<bbigras> infinisil: thanks!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @onsails opened pull request #108898 → vim: add fzf-lsp.nvim → https://git.io/JLh1I
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #108900 → hugo: 0.79.0 -> 0.80.0 → https://git.io/JLh16
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<energizer> I'm seeing a bunch of "patchelf: wrong ELF type" in a build log. Do I need to do something about that?
<cole-h> Probably not. I think patchelf runs on all files that have the executable bit. Since a shell script is executable, but cannot be linked to any libraries, patchelf will fail on those, for example.
<energizer> alright
<armin> cole-h: wat
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<cole-h> Can you be more specific where your confusion lies?
<armin> your explanation is wrong on so many levels that i lost track.
<cole-h> Feel free to correct me.
<armin> but let me try.
<AWizzArd> In my fresh NixOS 20.09 install I run Gnome and have installed Slack. Slack has no icon in the system tray. Do I actually have a tray app? What should I add to my configuration.nix to have a systray in which Slack (and others) can appear?
<cole-h> I'm just going off intuition. I'm not very knowledgable in patchelf, as you can see.
<armin> so, why do you think a shellscript would be linked to libraries?
<cole-h> I'm saying they can't be.
<armin> that's just not right.
<energizer> armin: what's the correct answer to my question?
<cole-h> Therefore patchelf will fail on a shell script.
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<armin> energizer: oh, i'm sorry, i don't know, my guess is "you don't need to bother until you notice breakage", but don't quote me on that
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<energizer> ok
<armin> energizer: that could pretty well mean nothing special. it could well be that it actually tries to do something on a shell script (which i would consider a serious packaging bug, at the very minimum), it also could be that something breaks (i wouldn't think so, but i'm not sure enough to be ablet to tell you that won't happen)
<cole-h> armin: So, from what I'm hearing, there's nothing actually wrong with my explanation? Aside from a misinterpretation on your part?
<cole-h> Just don't want to continue spouting obviously (to some) wrong information.
<armin> cole-h: ok then i can't help you, sorry.
<cole-h> No worries.
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<lukegb> Wow, that conversation was confusingly hostile and conveyed no useful information :p
<Rusty1> Oedmunston dispensary
<lcvass> I just want to thank those who helped me with a Qt issue with python libs earlier
<cole-h> ajs124: Can you expand on https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/108860#issuecomment-757391625? If it overwrites (e.g. the tmp.mount unit from systemd upstream is wholly used), wouldn't there still be an inodes limit?
<lcvass> It's still mysterious what is causing this but running python on a nix shell gets around it
<ajs124> cole-h: sure. just look at the systemctl cat output I posted in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/108860#issuecomment-757346068
<energizer> i want to use `make` in a package. should that be ${gcc}/bin/make or a different one?
<ajs124> what happens is that the upstream unit comes first and the systemd options override
<ajs124> and by "systemd options" I mean nixos options
<cole-h> Ah, I missed that. Where do these overrides come from? Or are you saying I should override it myself?
<{^_^}> [mobile-nixos] @samueldr opened pull request #279 → doc: Allow configurable system fragments → https://git.io/JLhDc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #108898 → vim: add fzf-lsp.nvim → https://git.io/JLh1I
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JLhDC
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #108751 → python3Packages.discordpy: 1.5.1 -> 1.6.0 → https://git.io/JLpeZ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed commit from @fabaff to master « python3Packages.discordpy: 1.5.1 -> 1.6.0 »: https://git.io/JLhD8
<ajs124> the overrides come from the nixos options (systemd.mouts = ...). the ones that were merged in the faulty PR.
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<cole-h> OH
<cole-h> I get it now
<cole-h> I thought 108881 removed the systemd.mounts option
<ajs124> *mounts
<cole-h> No, it just adds the additionalUpstreamSystemUnits
<energizer> ,locate bin/make
<cole-h> Got it, thanks.
<{^_^}> Found in packages: gnumake, gnumake42
<cole-h> Then, I'm fine with either being merged. I'll leave the decision to someone else :P
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<cole-h> ajs124++ Thanks. I've edited my comment to link to our conversation.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @iblech opened pull request #108902 → enigma: init at 1.21 → https://git.io/JLhDg
<cole-h> ajs124: Though if we use your PR, maybe we should get rid of the redundant options (e.g. the "what" and "where")?
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<ajs124> that might not be a bad idea. then again, maybe the merging works based on any of those? I'll do some tests.
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<cole-h> Well, yes I'm sure it probably works the same. It just seems useless to have something that upstream already has (e.g. we're not "overriding" the "what" and "where", but just the mount options).
<mikroskeem> hey. i'm trying to fix up docker derivation to get 20.10 in place and tbh, i have no idea if i'm on the right path
<ajs124> actually, why does nixos/modules/virtualisation/qemu-vm.nix have its own config.boot.tmpOnTmpfs?
<cole-h> Now that, I have no idea :D
<mikroskeem> but i'm not sure if this approach is... correct
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse opened pull request #108904 → php80.extensions.oci8: 2.2.0 -> 3.0.1 → https://git.io/JLhDy
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<mikroskeem> well clearly it isn't, its maintainability got just worse by 200%
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<cole-h> ajs124: I'll leave a comment on your PR about the duplicate overrides, just so people know it's been discussed if anybody has the same idea :P
<mikroskeem> i'm kind of confused what to do - should i keep moby as a separate derivation or pack it back together like it was done previously?
<ajs124> cole-h: apparently, because of #21490
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/21490 (by 8573, 4 years ago, closed): NixOS VMs: `boot.tmpOnTmpfs` tmpfs masks 9P mount-points
<cole-h> Ah
<cole-h> Makes sense, I guess.
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<ajs124> cole-h: sure 👍️
<ajs124> that's just a (hacky) workaround for a more generic problem though, isn't it? subdirectories always need to be mounted after their parents.
<cole-h> rnhmjoj: ping, if you're available.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #108896 → terraform-ls: 0.11.0 -> 0.12.0 → https://git.io/JLhP0
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JLhDh
<ajs124> mikroskeem: why all the ifs and elses? do we need to have support for multiple docker versions?
<mikroskeem> i don't know
<mikroskeem> i assumed that old versions are still needed
<ajs124> cole-h: so we need to keep around "where", because it's mandatory as that's where (hah) the unit gets its name from.
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<cole-h> ajs124: Nice pun. Yeah, makes sense.
<mikroskeem> though i'm not sure if anything older than 20.10 is supported anymore
<mikroskeem> or i'm just bad at using search engines at this point
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #108708 → busybox: 1.32.0 -> 1.32.1 → https://git.io/JLxgL
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JLhyT
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #108712 → python3Packages.airly: init at 1.0.0 → https://git.io/JLxVO
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JLhyk
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #108905 → flexget: 3.1.95 -> 3.1.98 → https://git.io/JLhyt
<ajs124> mikroskeem: idk where they get their data from, but: https://endoflife.software/applications/virtualization/docker-daemon
<mikroskeem> that's EE not CE, so not sure how accurate this is in our case
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<ajs124> hm, that also seems wrong, because the last 18.09 release is from 2019-09-03
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #108756 → sentencepiece: 0.1.94 -> 0.1.95 → https://git.io/JLpkW
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JLhyY
<mikroskeem> in ideal i'd drop everything but 20.10 lol
<ajs124> does 20.10 support "modern" technologies like nftables or cgroupsv2? I've had to replace docker with podman, because it doesn't have either of them.
<mikroskeem> it supports cgroupsv2
<mikroskeem> but not sure about nftables
<mikroskeem> i played with 20.10 beta, i think i still have its derivation around somewhere...
<mikroskeem> ah yeah i mentioned about it under cgroups v2 github issue
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<mikroskeem> version was set to 19.xx by mistake lol
<ajs124> ooh, they actually do support cgroup2
<mikroskeem> but that was the time when you could pull stuff from docker-ce repo
<mikroskeem> yeah, been looking forward to get 20.10 up and running... can't wait to set up even better metrics and stuff on top of cgroups v2 :)
<mikroskeem> oomd, better psi metrics etc.
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<energizer> ,locate bin/g++
<{^_^}> Found in packages: gcc, gcj, gdc, gcc6, gcc7, gcc8, gcc9, gnat, gcc10, gcc48, gcc49, gccgo, gnat6, gnat10, gfortran, gcc_debug, gcc_multi, gfortran6, gfortran7, gfortran8, libgccjit, gfortran10, gfortran48, gfortran49, graalvm8-ce, graalvm11-ce, ccacheWrapper, distccWrapper, gcc-unwrapped, distccMasquerade
<energizer> `nix-shell -p gnumake --pure` has a g++, why doens't it appear in that list?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq merged pull request #108901 → mmv-go: 0.1.2 -> 0.1.3 → https://git.io/JLhMr
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq pushed to master « mmv-go: 0.1.2 -> 0.1.3 »: https://git.io/JLhyQ
<gchristensen> gnumake doesn't bring g++ in to scope, g++ is part of gcc, which is part of stdenv, and nix-shell uses stdenv by default for -p
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<samueldr> (further details) this is how `-p` ends up being used by nix-shell: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/blob/e21aee58f6dd7785df50d5d2a473feb5f6b2ed4f/src/nix-build/nix-build.cc#L267-L270
<samueldr> pkgs.runCommand[CC] automatically bring in stdenv
<clever> `nix-shell -p` is also valid, with no elements in the list
<samueldr> oh, lol, I always used stdenv if I only wanted stdenv
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<clever> the C++ code you linked, also wraps each argv element in (), so you can do:
<cole-h> What else does stdenv contain?
<clever> nix-shell -p 'hello.override (old: src = ...; )'
<samueldr> cole-h: the standard environment
<samueldr> so I guess ed, since ed is the standard editor
<cole-h> :P Sorry, more specifically: what other packages does stdenv imply? (e.g. g++)
<clever> samueldr: the bash level quotes will keep it intact in the argv, and then nix will () it, so it doesnt get scrambled in a list
<samueldr> (sorry, I only wanted to shitpost about ed)
<samueldr> clever: yeah, I knew about doing arbitrary nix in `-p`
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<samueldr> which can be useful
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<clever> cole-h: gcc, binutils, make, tar, xz, gzip, bzip
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<cole-h> I wish `nix shell -f '<nixpkgs>' stdenv` worked.
<cole-h> (Worked, in that it brought in gcc, binutils, make, etc)
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<samueldr> yeah :/, -I nixpkgs= if you want to affect nixpkgs, though by default it does use <nixpkgs>
<clever> cole-h: that likely gives you an env suitable for building the stdenv, not using it
<cole-h> I thought that was `nix develop`
<clever> ive not played with the `nix develop` and `nix shell` utils yet
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<cole-h> `nix shell -f '<nixpkgs>' gnumake` adds make to my PATH
<samueldr> I haven't used `nix` much other than for repl
<clever> its probably that stdenv has no $out/bin
<clever> so there is nothing to add to the path
<cole-h> Ah
<cole-h> Could be
<clever> and `nix-shell -p stdenv` isnt adding what you thought it was adding
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<cole-h> Indeed
<clever> try just `nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A stdenv` and `ls -l result/`
<samueldr> cole-h: using `show-derivation` you could extract inputDrvs using jq trickery
<samueldr> (I'm no good at jq)
<clever> you could also just throw develop at hello?
<clever> its a pretty basic package that uses stdenv
<samueldr> cole-h: that is, to know what stdenv brings in
<cole-h> The difference is that `nix develop` drops me into bash, while `nix shell` doesn't.
<cole-h> Which is why I prefer `nix shell` over `nix-shell`
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<noonien> hmm, i've started using flakes, this is my flake.nix so far: http://ix.io/2LuM
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<noonien> i'm trying to get rid of nix-channels, to set them up declaratively
<noonien> however, i'm not exactly sure how to `nix search` works with flakes
<noonien> ah, just `nix search nixpkgs pkg`
<cole-h> `nix serach nixpkgs pkg`
<cole-h> yep
<cole-h> well, with proper spelling and all
<clever> but which version of nixpkgs is it?
<clever> will it randomly pick a new version when the TTL expires?
<clever> thats where i prefer channels, since i have control over that
<cole-h> It picks from the registry IIRC.
<noonien> well, no, it should be the flake described in the registry, no? which is pinned in flake.lock
<cole-h> And since you can pin your registry, (to me) it's functionally the same as channels, but better IMO.
<clever> cole-h: so its basically the latest nixos-unstable? and you have no way to reproduce the build that you had yesterday?
<clever> ah, but that needs to be documented more then
<cole-h> Unless you manually pin your registry, indeed.
<noonien> clever: i pinned the registry in the url i pasted
<noonien> i'm trying to get nixPath to work also, but i think that requires me to re-login
<cole-h> Or with `nix registry pin`
<clever> noonien: what i typically did, was i point nixPath to a static location like /run/current-systems/nixpkgs, then i modify that symlink
<clever> so the env var doesnt have to update for the changes to take effect
<noonien> i'm sure you get this pun a lot, but, that's pretty.. clever :D
<clever> noonien: this example file also breaks nixos-rebuild by messing up <nixos-config>, in this case so you cant break a nixops system
<noonien> nice
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<noonien> is there a flake alternative to using `nix-shell -i` as an interpretor?
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<samueldr> I don't think so... as useful as it may be, it is seen as an antipattern
<cole-h> Oh?
<noonien> yeah, i guess they are
<cole-h> First I'm hearing of it.
<cole-h> FWIW, there is an alternative, but it's not POSIX.
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<samueldr> I haven't heard official word, just the feeling I've observed
<cole-h> #!/usr/bin/env -S nix shell -f '<pkgs>' hello -c bash
<cole-h> ^ will bring hello into the script's environment.
<cole-h> (h/t infinisil)
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<{^_^}> [mobile-nixos] @samueldr merged pull request #279 → doc: Allow configurable system fragments → https://git.io/JLhDc
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<infinisil> l
<infinisil> Oh, that's not the right window!
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<thorn_> ive got a file ./foo.nix, its got a function in it, and i want to use it in ./bar/baz/file.nix, whats the best way to use the function? i made file.nix a recursive attrset and went foo = import ../../foo.nix, but that seems odd and i havent gotten it to evaluate, is there a better way?
<colemickens> thorn_: import is what you want, it should be as if the contents of the file was literally placed at the right hand of the equal sign there.
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<thorn_> the contents of the file is { a, b, ...} : { blah blah blah }, and im using it by assuming the name i said was equal to the import is the name of the function
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @terinjokes opened pull request #108907 → pcem: init v17 → https://git.io/JLhHT
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<donofrio> need some help, how do I make a full statefull backup of a nix install on my imac?
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<thorn_> if you know the generation path you should be able to grab the closure of it i think?
<cole-h> Well, if you have the configuration, the whole point of Nix is that you should be able to get to the same point, no?
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<donofrio> what directory do I cp to get all of nix install copyed, I was suggested nix-copy-closure but that seems to be over networking when all I want is a local copy in case I brake something?
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<tpw_rules> donofrio: use nix copy file:///blah.blah /nix/store/hhhh-blah/
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<tpw_rules> of course you'll have to copy all your derivations and configuration too so you get the same hashes when you reevaluate everything
<tpw_rules> the only thing this can do is save compilation time
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<tpw_rules> donofrio: oops i was wrong. see this: https://nixos.org/manual/nix/unstable/package-management/copy-closure.html
<tpw_rules> nix copy copies to a directory so you have to pack everything up. the stuff on that pages copies to one file which is easier. in neither case is anything compressed though, you'll have to run it through zstd or something
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<donofrio> tpw_rules, so basically use nix-copy-closure and just use localhost ssh cause it would get the derivations and such?
<tpw_rules> none of the commands do that
<tpw_rules> there's no way to do that
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<donofrio> cp of -r /nix-path ?
<tpw_rules> what do you hope to accomplish?
<tpw_rules> no that doesn't work either
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<donofrio> tpw_rules, full 4gb backup of my working nix install to attempt to get wget working on my imac without AVX instruction set on my imac 2008? right now it returns "Illigal instruction :4" just like pianobar used to do till I did a 16 hour compile of everything and then pianobar works, but not youtube-dl (crashes python) and I guess wget doesn't work along with many other binaries if my hunch is correct
<tpw_rules> you can copy /nix over if you want to copy everything, but you still have to copy all your .nix files separately
<tpw_rules> and configuration
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<donofrio> tpw_rules, where are these config files stored so far I've get to find them
<tpw_rules> you had to set them all up
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<donofrio> tpw_rules, negative - I just installed and then ran the command "nix-shell -p pianobar --option substitute false" waited 16 hours then my pianobar ran finally....
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<tpw_rules> then you'll just have to make sure the new nixpkgs has the same hash
<donofrio> tpw_rules, hu? I'm still new here - fwiw
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<tpw_rules> are you using nixpkgs unstable?
<donofrio> tpw_rules, how to check that?
<tpw_rules> nix-channel --list iirc?
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<donofrio> tpw_rules, nixpkgs https://nixos.org/channels/nixpkgs-unstable
<tpw_rules> you'll have to use nix-channel --add to add that same revision
<tpw_rules> idk what it was when you installed it because it changes daily. i don't recall how to find out
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<tpw_rules> oh, it just changed right now
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<ZaraChimera> To enable the us-international layout, would that be something entered under the services.xserver.layout option in configuration.nix
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<taylor1791> On nixos, I added rofi and rofi-calc to environment.systemPackages. However, `rofi` does not detect the plugin. If I run `rofi -plugin-path $(nix eval nixpkgs.rofi-calc.outPath | sed s/\"//g)`, I can enable the plugin. Can anyone recommend a better way to teach rofi to the location of the plugins? I do not use home-manager.
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<ZaraChimera> After editing configuration.nix for the install, I get a message about services.xserver.job.execCmd has conflicting definitions in /mnt/etc/nixos/configuration.nix and /nix/var/nix/profile/per-user/root/channels/...
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<taylor1791> Okay. Ignore my question. I discovered `rofi.override` after finding this configuration.nix. https://github.com/j-hui/pokerus/blob/f9bae7e3e26c4ff522209eabf0b23809eb507586/nixos.config/nixos/x.nix
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<ZaraChimera> Okay. Seems I can't install my preferred displayManager from the GNOME liveUSB for nixos 20.09 because services.xserver.displaymanager is defined in multiple locations so the system will not install.
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<ZaraChimera> I was trying to get ly display manager enabled through the option services.xserver.displayManager.job.execCmd = "${pkgs.ly}/bin/ly" in my configuration.nix. When I try to run the install I keep getting the message that the job.execCmd has conflicting definitions
<pjt_tmp> ZaraChimera: you could cheat with an override
<pjt_tmp> pkgs.lib.mkForce I think?
<ZaraChimera> Where would the override go?
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<pjt_tmp> just after the = (again, I *think*)
<pjt_tmp> and the first party might not be needed if you've pulled in pkgs.lib
<ZaraChimera> This is for an initial install to HD
<pjt_tmp> hm
<pjt_tmp> also is that really all that's needed? I came across ly awhile ago and wondered why it was a package and not a service
<pjt_tmp> seems like a better fit for tiling wm-ville
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<ZaraChimera> Apparently, I have to define ly as my displayManager using ${pkgs.ly}/bin/ly in order to get it to work.
<pjt_tmp> that's def something that can be fixed
<ZaraChimera> I was experimenting building a system with spectrwm and enlightenment.
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<pjt_tmp> that's an...interesting combo
<ZaraChimera> The weird thing is that it's listing the conflict in a directory that's part of the live environment and I'm trying to build from the mounted HD partition.
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<pjt_tmp> conflict still happens with the override too?
<ZaraChimera> I hadn't entered the override
<pjt_tmp> try it?
<ZaraChimera> I hadn't entered the override after the = in my servicse.xserver.displayManager line
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<ZaraChimera> Progress. Now it's griping that I didn't properly define the allowUnfree thing.
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<pjt_tmp> I hope the ly thing didnt cause that
<pjt_tmp> that'd be too weird
<ZaraChimera> No that was caused by trying to install the nVidia GPU drivers
<ZaraChimera> I put the nixpkgs.allowUnfree = true after the { import ... in configuration.nix, but apparently that isn't right.
<ZaraChimera> Bah.
<ZaraChimera> Blasted typo.
<ZaraChimera> nixpkgs.config.allwUnfree... and my brain kept reading that with an o that wasn't there.
<ZaraChimera> Okay. Looks like the pkgs.lib.mkForce in the ly line seems to have worked.
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<ZaraChimera> The conflicting/multiple locations issue has been mentioned in 2018 and 2019 for different setups as well, so seems to be a persistent issue with both nixos-install or nixos-rebuild
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<pjt_tmp> oboy
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bryanasdev000 opened pull request #108918 → citrix: Update doc to use CommonMark → https://git.io/JLhbC
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #108882 → libguestfs: remove xen as dependency → https://git.io/JLhzQ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #108876 → python3Packages.asgiref: disable test on Darwin → https://git.io/JLhRJ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #108874 → deepsea: init at 0.9 → https://git.io/JLhBQ
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<ZaraChimera> Okay, it does boot, but fails to start X11 for some reason.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #105438 → sile: 0.10.12 → 0.10.13 → https://git.io/JkjC3
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<supersandro2000> Can someone help me out with finding the PR that fixed nokogiri for rubyPackages?
<ZaraChimera> systemctl status display-manager and journalctl -xe aren't helpful.
<pjt_tmp> does it just hang indefintely?
<ZaraChimera> No, fails to start x11, and dumps me back to terminal. Using systemctl restart display-manager.service doesn't do anything.
<ZaraChimera> I tried reconfiguring with my nvidia driver line commented out with the same result.
<pjt_tmp> can you wrap execCmd with bash -x somehow to dump mpre info?
<pjt_tmp> I don't know where that'd show up, if anywhere
<pjt_tmp> possibly could send it to a named pipe?
<ZaraChimera> Not sure how I'd go about doing that.
<ZaraChimera> I can launch ly manually but all I get for options are shell and xinitrc
<pjt_tmp> execCmd = 'bash -xc "${pkgs.ly}/bin/ly"' maybe (again, if that's even possible. I'm kinda guessing here)
<ZaraChimera> Disabled ly and enabled lightdm to see if that makes a difference
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<ZaraChimera> Okay, the issue is apparently with ly.
<ZaraChimera> swapping it for lightdm works.
<pjt_tmp> huh
<pjt_tmp> I am dissapoint, it looked nice and I swear I remember getting it to work
<pjt_tmp> not declaritevely tho
<pjt_tmp> :/
<pjt_tmp> ZaraChimera: you know what we really should do though? File an issue to have ly added as a dm. I knew I wasn't the only one who was interested and now I know for sure
<pjt_tmp> I could do that right now honestly
* ZaraChimera supposes I could make myself a Github account :D
<ZaraChimera> The issue requiring pkgs.lib.mkForce is another one.
<pjt_tmp> yes, that has big slapdash patch vibes
<ZaraChimera> I'll revert and see if I missed something in ly's ini file.
<pjt_tmp> oh yeah, it uses ini. eugh :|
<pjt_tmp> that'll feel good to abstract
<ZaraChimera> Freaking learning curves.
<ZaraChimera> I do like how snappy enlightenment is :D
<pjt_tmp> oh, look what I found: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/87809
<{^_^}> #87809 (by mtekman, 34 weeks ago, closed): Package Request: Upgrade Ly recipe
<pjt_tmp> hm
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danieldk opened pull request #108920 → Revert "sentencepiece: 0.1.94 -> 0.1.95" → https://git.io/JLhAu
* ZaraChimera is beginning to think they may need a github to keep track of config files and recipies and be able to merge them back in.
<pjt_tmp> it is helpful
<ZaraChimera> And wifi doesn't work.
<ZaraChimera> Well crap.
<pjt_tmp> you know how to use wpa_s manually?
<pjt_tmp> that's the workaround
<pjt_tmp> man wpa_passphrase, wpa_supplicant
<pjt_tmp> unless it's a driver thing and running it manually isn't possible
<ZaraChimera> I set up the wpa_supplicant.conf that I had in my notes from last time around, but this time the issue seems to be that the connman daemon isn't running.
<ZaraChimera> Also seem to be missing the acpi daemon as well.
<pjt_tmp> any reason you're importing a conf like that instead of using the nix options?
<ZaraChimera> Because I had got it working that way in the past, and written down the steps for myself.
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<ZaraChimera> I did add the services.connman.enable = true in configuration.nix and enabled wifi with wpa_supplicant.
<ZaraChimera> The lines that worked in the past in my wpa_supplicant.conf were ctrl_interface = DIR = /run/wpa_supplicant GROUP = wheel
<pjt_tmp> you could also look in man configuration.nix under networking.wireless.<networkname>
<ZaraChimera> Okay, wired at least works, and since this is a desktop and I have a long enough ethernet cable to use for the moment.
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<ZaraChimera> Oh right I think I had to something with the connman technologies as well.
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<pjt_tmp> If it's not a mobile device I really would suggest looking at networking.wireless.* . You don't need a manager as much if the wifi is static.
<pjt_tmp> ZaraChimera: try running nixos-option networking.wireless.networks
<pjt_tmp> that will show how it's used and what it's set at
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<ZaraChimera> nixos-option gives me { } for current value.
<ZaraChimera> So I haven't quite worked out how the wifi stuff works.
<ZaraChimera> I would like to get it working that way i could use the configuration.nix to duplicate the system on laptop as well.
<pjt_tmp> ZaraChimera: you see the example though right?
<ZaraChimera> Yes.
<pjt_tmp> ZaraChimera: networking.wireless.networks = { thenetworkname = { psk = "bestpassworpd"; priority = 0; } }
<ZaraChimera> Just trying to figure out what I'm missing that I did last time around that got it working (this was about 2 years ago)
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<pjt_tmp> You really could just ditch the external wifi.conf file. Unless it has some really complicated stuff in it,
<pjt_tmp> you could get away with something as simple as networking.wireless.networks.thenetworkname.psk = "bestpassworpd";
<ZaraChimera> Yeah.
<ZaraChimera> And this would be declared in the configuration.nix?
<pjt_tmp> yup.
<pjt_tmp> that's where most config magic goes
<ZaraChimera> That's second on the list. First is to figure out why connmanctl scan wifi isn't working.
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<pjt_tmp> is that just to see what networks are near?
<pjt_tmp> If you just need that utility I could suggest wavemon.
<ZaraChimera> Yeah
<ZaraChimera> network stuff is a pain in enlightenment when not using connman because econnman and networkmanager do not play nice.
<ZaraChimera> listing the technologies it does say wifi is powered but not connected. When doing connmanctl scan wifi it says not supported.
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<ZaraChimera> Bingo.
<pjt_tmp> I personally do not use an connection managers (or any desktop manager actually) and have a desktop computer connected soley by wifi, and the configuration.nix line about is pretty much my entire nwtworking setup. I'd suggest at least trying it
<ZaraChimera> wpa_supplicant needed to be started with -u flag
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<ZaraChimera> So now I just need to tell my system to start wpa_supplicant with the -u flag.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rycee pushed commit from @midchildan to master « fira-code: only extract the variable font »: https://git.io/JLhx4
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rycee closed pull request #108913 → fira-code: only extract the variable font → https://git.io/JLh53
<pjt_tmp> do you not use your configuration.nix file?
<pjt_tmp> It's kinda there to abstract away thins kind of thing
<pjt_tmp> `man configuration.nix`
<eyJhb> pjt_tmp: Networking regarding Wireless in configuration.nix really is not well
<ZaraChimera> Not yet, I just managed to get the wifi card to see the networks around me by manually running wpa_supplicant -u
<pjt_tmp> what? it's all I use and it works fine
<ZaraChimera> Now I need to figure out how to tell nixos to run that by default.
<eyJhb> I have done it 2-3 times, and it screwed up my entire computer
<eyJhb> Might have changed since then. But it was not nice back then...
<ZaraChimera> I know I can declare wifi stuff in my configuration.nix but if I want to use this as a base to build an install on a laptop just having the fixed solution for desktop isn't going to cut it.
<pjt_tmp> I've rebuilt my config hundreds of times with networking in it and not once has it caused any kind of havoc
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<ZaraChimera> so I'd add "wpa_supplicant -u" to the extraCmdArgs option?
<eyJhb> ZaraChimera: just -u
<s1341> so i have a question:
<pjt_tmp> ZaraChimera: you can have one config file that imports a different, separate networking config file per device
<ZaraChimera> Ah, thanks :)
<eyJhb> e.g. look at the example :p
<s1341> is it possible to have a nix-shell, under which the DNS servers are different from those normally used?
<eyJhb> s1341: nix-shell is basically just a shell with a different $PATH as far as I know, so no, just not like that
<eyJhb> You would have to add something ontop of it
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<s1341> eyJhb: something like what?
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<eyJhb> s1341: Guessing you would have to run it in a container sadly, or maybe use network namespaces for that PID
<s1341> hrm. it seems like it would be super useful... no? i'm failing at googling it though....
<ZaraChimera> eyJhb Okay, that seems to have worked now. :)
<eyJhb> Useful for NixOS? Not really sure I have had any time where I needed to do this...
<eyJhb> ZaraChimera: Perfect ;)
* ZaraChimera is still very much a NixOS newbie.
<s1341> eyJhb: useful in general.... like for example, if I want to connect to multiple VPNs at the same time, and have a each shell + children associated with one of those...
<eyJhb> That's a little beyound nix-shell. Also VPN is more than just DNS, there are a LOT of routes, and once you go down that path, you might as well segregate them as needed.
<eyJhb> Having setup the DNS correct, is only a tiny bit of the entire thing
<s1341> yeah. i meant once one was going the seperate network namespace route.
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<s1341> it sounds like a useful tool? no
<eyJhb> Useful yes, related to nix-shell , no :p But yeah, vpnns is most likely the way to go.
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<ZaraChimera> Now back to trying to unbork ly and X11 not launching.
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<Orbstheorem> ZaraChimera: Have you looked at my patch series? It's old, but I was using that at the time.
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<ZaraChimera> Orbstheorem looking at it now, but I think that might be above my current ability to make use of. I'm still sort of at the stage of mostly copy-paste stuff from the manual and see what happens when I don't and try to figure out how to fix it.
<Orbstheorem> x)
<Orbstheorem> From the top of my memory, in a nutshell the main issues were: Upstream clears the session envvars before calling pam, Hardcoded paths to binaries and there was something 'weird' about the way it requested the tty.
<Orbstheorem> But this was about a year and a half ago, so these issues may have been fixed.
<ZaraChimera> In 20.09 what I am seeing is ly isn't available as a displayManager option, and if I didn't use pkgs.lib.mkForce then nixos-install would complain about displayManager being defined in multiple locations or having conflicting definitions.
<ZaraChimera> That went away if I commented out services.xserver.displayManger.job.execCmd = "${pkgs.ly}/bin/ly" or used pkgs.lib.mkForce. The next issue was that if I had ly enabled X11 failed to start.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 opened pull request #108924 → rubyPackages.nokogiri: Fix overwrites for 1.11.1 → https://git.io/JLhpg
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ehmry merged pull request #108910 → Fix support for extending Dhall package set → https://git.io/JLh7c
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak merged pull request #108894 → python3Packages.ds_store: init at 1.3.0 → https://git.io/JLh6D
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ymatsiuk opened pull request #108929 → appgate-sdp: add appgate-sdp to modules list → https://git.io/JLhjP
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<typetetris> I usually used 'nix repl <nixos>' and tab completion to browse available packages. Is there something comparable with flakes?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @timstott opened pull request #108930 → telegraf: 1.16.3 -> 1.17.0 → https://git.io/JLjee
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<V> typetetris: can you specify a flake as the argument to `nix repl`?
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<V> (I've not used flakes, I just know that they're not finished yet and are new enough to be buggy somewhat regularly, so I'm staying away from them currently)
<V> (it's quite possible this functionality doesn't exist; there's a bunch of features that the current CLI tools have that aren't provided by the new nix command)
<clever> [clever@amd-nixos:~/apps/rpi/rpi-tools]$ cat /home/clever/iohk/bitte/repl.nix
<clever> builtins.getFlake (toString ./.)
<clever> V: if you run `nix repl repl.nix`, with this file, it will load a flake
<supersandro2000> I want input aware fetchers as an option...
<supersandro2000> content addressable makes no sense for dev... 😒
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<V> clever: no #flake syntax on the command line? :(
<clever> V: i dont think its supported on the repl
<V> love me some consistency
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fabaff opened pull request #108931 → chisel: init at 1.7.3 → https://git.io/JLjeV
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #108889 → sn0int: 0.19.1 -> 0.20.0 → https://git.io/JLhoU
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Profpatsch merged pull request #108927 → perl-packages: stdenv.lib -> lib → https://git.io/JLhjW
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Profpatsch pushed to master « perl-packages: stdenv.lib -> lib »: https://git.io/JLje1
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<srxl> Hey, I'm looking to package a Haskell app that has a Stack project - what's the best way to go about that?
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<srxl> I was able to try get something going with cabal2nix on the project, but it seems like some dependencies are marked broken at the moment
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<srxl> in particular, brotli requires a 2.13.x version of QuickCheck, but nixpkgs seems to only package 2.14
<viric> Is it possible that we have swap without discard options?
<viric> especially encrypted swap
<srxl> It sounds like a fairly trivial fix, and I'd be willing to get it fixed in nixpkgs, although I'm not sure how the haskell infrastructure works for packages
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #108854 → vscode-extensions.ryu1kn.partial-diff: init at 1.4.1 → https://git.io/JLhOM
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #108850 → pcsc-cyberjack: fix compilation with gcc10 → https://git.io/JLhty
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Profpatsch opened pull request #108933 → hpack: add a statically built executable → https://git.io/JLjvU
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<juba1> Hello, hackers! I am in a job application process and the company asking me to learn nix package manager before 10 days and be able to build apps in pure environment. However, at this point I am very confused how things really work and could not find a actually user friendly documentation or guide yet
<juba1> any help would be highly appreciated
<juba1> sorry for noob question, but I am trying to take my seat in the community and I also need to start from 0 , right :)
<ar> juba1: check out nix pills
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<juba1> ar : thanx, im on it now!
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<viric> juba1: do you mean you didn't find the manuals or you think the manuals are not friendly to you?
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<juba1> manual is not friendly to me
<viric> ok
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Profpatsch opened pull request #108934 → toplevel: stdenv.lib -> lib → https://git.io/JLjvK
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #108825 → openjpeg: 2.3.1 -> 2.4.0 → https://git.io/JLpbn
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 pushed 2 commits to staging: https://git.io/JLjv1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #108930 → telegraf: 1.16.3 -> 1.17.0 → https://git.io/JLjee
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JLjvD
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Profpatsch opened pull request #108935 → x11/xorg: stdenv.lib -> lib in meta generator → https://git.io/JLjvA
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cdepillabout merged pull request #108922 → haskellPackages.threadscope: Remove jailbreak after package update → https://git.io/JLhx6
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cdepillabout pushed 2 commits to haskell-updates: https://git.io/JLjvh
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #96039 → evscript: Init at git-47f86f0 → https://git.io/JUvKD
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JLjfq
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Atemu opened pull request #108936 → squashfsTools: enable lz4Support by default → https://git.io/JLjfY
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @CohenCyril opened pull request #108937 → coqPackages: doc → https://git.io/JLjf3
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #108638 → bupstash: init at 0.6.4 → https://git.io/JLASz
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #100042 → oberon-risc-emu: init at 2020-08-18 → https://git.io/JUjSt
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<betawaffle> can someone tell me the difference between master, nixpkgs-unstable, and nixos-unstable (or link me to a document that does)?
<Yaniel> betawaffle: the amount of testing they go through
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<betawaffle> right, but which tests have to pass for each of them?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 closed pull request #86776 → nodePackages: remove decentral node-packages.json files → https://git.io/JfGe4
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<clever> betawaffle: click on the "hydra job for tests" link https://status.nixos.org/
<clever> betawaffle: then check the consituens tab
<Yaniel> master only gets the eval tests in PRs, nixpkgs-unstable gets a couple and nixos-unstable is supposed to still give you a usable bases system at all times
<betawaffle> perfect, thanks
<betawaffle> Yaniel++ clever++
<{^_^}> Yaniel's karma got increased to 10
<{^_^}> clever's karma got increased to 551
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<V> betawaffle: master = anything that gets merged, nixpkgs-unstable = master + nixpkgs tests pass, nixos-unstable = nixpkgs-unstable + nixos tests pass
<V> if you're just using nixpkgs, nixpkgs-unstable is the freshest branch you'll want to use. if you're running nixos from it... seriously, don't use anything past nixos-unstable
<V> you *will* regret it
<clever> V: nixos-unstable can sometimes be newer then nixpkgs-unstable, when darwin CI fails
<betawaffle> ok, so then my next question is, i'm converting my nixos config to a flake, and i'm trying to decide if i want to have multiple nixpkgs-based inputs, or if i should just use nixos-unstable as nixpkgs in all cases
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<betawaffle> is there anything i might want to use from nixpkgs _before_ it passes nixos tests?
<Yaniel> you can't
<Yaniel> because nixos-unstable is only updated *after* the tests pass
<V> the tests are done on hydra, once
<V> not locally
<V> nix{pkgs,os}-unstable just get bumped to reflect the latest respective successful hydra jobset
<Yaniel> as a rule of thumb always use nixos-unstable or one of the stable release channels
<Yaniel> and for single packages you can use nixpkgs-unstable or straight up a git branch if you want for whatever reason
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #108928 → opustags: 1.5.1 -> 1.6.0, pythonPackages.awkward0: 0.15.1 -> 0.15.2, pythonPackages.graphene: 3.0.0b6 -> 3.0.0b7, python… → https://git.io/JLhjE
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos opened pull request #108939 → gpgme: 1.15.0 -> 1.15.1 → https://git.io/JLjTe
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #105775 → nixos/iwd: pull in upstream .link unit file → https://git.io/JItbP
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JLjLc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #107958 → vmTools.debClosureGenerator: Fix non-determinism in dependency graph → https://git.io/JLH2G
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @domenkozar pushed to release-20.09 « cachix 0.6.0 »: https://git.io/JLjta
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Atemu opened pull request #108940 → tests/zfs: test stable with stable linuxPackages → https://git.io/JLjYJ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #96935 → ioquake3: 2019-05-29 -> 2020-08-29 → https://git.io/JUYqe
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JLj3Y
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<tuxcoder[m]> Hello all! I'm a bit new to nix, and people told me this is the right place to ask / fill a bugreport
<Yaniel> the right place to ask for sure
<Yaniel> for bug reports it is probably better to head to github
<tuxcoder[m]> I installed a minimal nixos on my laptop and needed some time to get my touchpad running, in the end I not only needed to enable `services.xserver.libinput.enable=true` also add the package libinput otherwise X11 has found / not loaded the modules for that
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<tuxcoder[m]> If this a not should be behaviour I can fill a issue on github
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @luc65r opened pull request #108942 → deemix: init at 2.0.11 → https://git.io/JLj3R
<Yaniel> it does sound like something that should pull in the package automagically
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fabaff opened pull request #108943 → python3Packages.dnachisel: 3.2.5 -> 3.2.6 → https://git.io/JLj3z
<Yaniel> and you should never have to add libraries to environment.systemPackages anyway
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<tuxcoder[m]> hmm, ok, will try to reproduce it in and fill a github issue, thank you @Yaniel
<Yaniel> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/nixos/modules/services/x11/hardware/libinput.nix looks like it does add xorg.xf86libinput to the system packages
<lush> hi
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Atemu opened pull request #108944 → [20.09] Backport ZFS update in preparation for 5.10 bump → https://git.io/JLj31
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JLj3b
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JLj3p
<atemu12[m]> My command-not-found hasn't been working for months; does anyone know where programs.sqlite is supposed to come from?
<tuxcoder[m]> hmm, looks like in my vm it works, confusing, take another looks, if I can not resolve I write again
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak opened pull request #108945 → electrs: init at 0.8.6 → https://git.io/JLjsL
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu merged pull request #108904 → php80.extensions.oci8: 2.2.0 -> 3.0.1 → https://git.io/JLhDy
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<DigitalKiwi> atemu12[m]: the dbPath?
<DigitalKiwi> this is the default /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/programs.sqlite
<atemu12[m]> DigitalKiwi: Yeah but where does the file itself come from? It's not in the channel
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<DigitalKiwi> it's in nixexprs.tar.gz i think
<viric> I can't make any sense of how swap devices are set up by nixos
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<DigitalKiwi> viric: how do you mean?
<atemu12[m]> It is indeed! DigitalKiwi++
<{^_^}> DigitalKiwi's karma got increased to 27, it's a crit!
<DigitalKiwi> how do i make nix search not download the file every time
<viric> DigitalKiwi: the link with encrypted devices... I'm finding out.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 closed pull request #22789 → freeipa: init at 4.4.3 → https://git.io/vDiOa
<viric> DigitalKiwi: I'm trying to add 'discard' to swap and encrypted swap
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #107860 → redis: build with TLS support → https://git.io/JLSit
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<DigitalKiwi> i think it would go there
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<viric> DigitalKiwi: I found all. I'll submit a PR
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @kevingriffin opened pull request #108947 → fish: native environment → https://git.io/JLjn1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @viric opened pull request #108948 → Add options for swap discarding (TRIM) → https://git.io/JLjnF
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @onsails opened pull request #108949 → Vim closer → https://git.io/JLjcL
<viric> ^ voluntary reviewers, stand up.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Kloenk opened pull request #108950 → linux: add extraBuildInputs and extraNativeBuildInputs → https://git.io/JLjcY
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<mikroskeem> ok. i've managed to almost get docker 20.10 working
<mikroskeem> yet have to figure out how to get client built timestamp to 0
<mikroskeem> because right now `docker version` gives me `Built: Sun Jan 10 14:01:09 2021` heh
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<betawaffle> when is it necessary to use `extraModules`? presumably when ordering matters, but that shouldn't be the case, right?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto merged pull request #104658 → Add fcitx5 → https://git.io/JkKx0
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto pushed 14 commits to master: https://git.io/JLjcH
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<pinpox> Any neovim + nixos users here? I'm trying to install this plugin https://github.com/josa42/coc-lua with :CocInstall coc-lua. The plugin installs fine, but the binary wont run. I tried to see if it ldd was missing something, but the paths' seem to be set to the nix store https://gist.github.com/pinpox/66faa86fd91bd9a8fbe353ff17d0dd9e
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed to staging « qt5-packages.nix: fix title »: https://git.io/JLjW0
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #108453 → binutils: 2.34 -> 2.35.1 → https://git.io/JLb4Z
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @lovesegfault to staging « binutils: 2.34 -> 2.35.1 »: https://git.io/JLjW6
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #89775 → Rework androidenv package list generation → https://git.io/JfMjD
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 closed pull request #78623 → androidenv: add emulator v29.3.6 → https://git.io/JvmX6
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JLjWX
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #108939 → gpgme: 1.15.0 -> 1.15.1 → https://git.io/JLjTe
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<itai33[m]> how do i check if a package exists cache.nixos.org?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Atemu opened pull request #108958 → Update zen kernels → https://git.io/JLjlg
<gchristensen> you have to know the store path of the package, do you have the store path?
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<mikroskeem> i'm about to PR docker update to nixpkgs
<mikroskeem> but i'm not sure if i should update pkgs/top-level/all-packages.nix as well?
<mikroskeem> since i dropped old docker derivations
<infinisil> pinpox: CocInstall won't really work with Nix, you need to include a nix-packaged version of the plugin into the vim configuration instead
<infinisil> > vimPlugins.coc-lua
<{^_^}> attribute 'coc-lua' missing, at (string):460:1
<cole-h> (Doesn't appear to be packaged)
<cole-h> (yet ;)
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<eyJhb> If you are lucky, then CocInstall will work. But as infinisil said else it needs to be packaged. And it is really not nice packaging nodejs things (which I think it is)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mikroskeem opened pull request #108959 → docker-proxy: 7b2b1fe -> fa125a3 → https://git.io/JLjlb
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mikroskeem opened pull request #108960 → docker: 19.03.4 -> 20.10.2 → https://git.io/JLjlh
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<mikroskeem> ^ let me know if something is missing. i'll gladly take any help, those are my first contributions to nixpkgs
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<adisbladis> mikroskeem: Since the Docker PR depends on the proxy one and the proxy one is a trivial bump I'd have done them as a single PR
<adisbladis> You don't have to change anything now, just know that it's perfectly acceptable to bundle multiple related changes in a single PR
<mikroskeem> thanks
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @iblech opened pull request #108961 → jumpnbump: init at 1.70-dev → https://git.io/JLj8c
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<itai33[m]> gchristensen: on checking if a package exists on cache.nixos.org, i haven't been able to find the store path as a part of the search of the nixpkgs, isit there somewhere
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<clever> itai33[m]: open `nix repl '<nixpkgs>'` and then eval `"${hello}"`
<clever> itai33[m]: or just `nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A hello --dry-run`
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<itai33[m]> clever: cool, and how do i use the store to find out if it's cached?
<clever> itai33[m]: the --dry-run cmd will tell you
<itai33[m]> how?
<clever> itai33[m]: `nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A hello --dry-run`
<itai33[m]> yeah i did that
<itai33[m]> it just tells me that it will fetch a path
<clever> then the path is in the cache
<itai33[m]> but it still downloads a bunch of dependencies for it to compile though, i thought binary caches were supposed to prevent that or something
<itai33[m]> or are the dependencies dynamically linked or something
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<clever> itai33[m]: what dependencies is it downloading, to compile what?
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<itai33[m]> for example for pandoc it's downloading a bunch of haskell libraries
<itai33[m]> clever:
<itai33[m]> or mpd
<clever> itai33[m]: when you do `nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A mpd --dry-run`, does it say its building anything, or is it all fetched?
<itai33[m]> all fetched
<itai33[m]> maybe i'm just conflating fetching dependencies and building stuff locally
<clever> yeah, sounds like everything is cached perfectly for mpd
<itai33[m]> cool
<itai33[m]> how often does nix update it's hackage stuff?
<itai33[m]> aparently my package was broken for like a month due to dependencies and i only now notice
<clever> itai33[m]: which package?
<itai33[m]> hum
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @glittershark opened pull request #108962 → fprintd: Use cfg.package instead of pkgs.fprintd → https://git.io/JLjBR
<itai33[m]> well haskellPackages.hum
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fabaff opened pull request #108963 → crlfuzz: init at 1.4.0 → https://git.io/JLjB0
<itai33[m]> i pushed a fix but i need to wait for the next hackage update for it to work
<clever> haskell fixes usually go into the haskell-updates branch, and then somebody runs hackage2nix to update the nix files
<clever> and then it gets pushed to master
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<itai33[m]> and it seems that this happens about once a week or so
<itai33[m]> you know what would be cool? if the nix cache automatically emailed the maintainer that their package is broken (the first time it get's built to be broken)
<clever> hydra did do that at one time
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<itai33[m]> clever: was it disabled on purpous?
<clever> not sure, gchristensen may know more
<adisbladis> Iirc people thought it was too spammy or something along those lines
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<itai33[m]> yeah i'd kind of guess that that is why, but i feel like if it only notifies you on the first faliure per version it would probably be fine
<gchristensen> we sent 50,000 emails one afternoon when we created a new release jobset, and people were unhappy so we disabled it and I don't know why we haven't turned it back on, I thought we were going to
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #108955 → modules/tarsnap: document timestamp format → https://git.io/JLjCV
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<mikroskeem> yikes
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<eyJhb> What about opening an issue instead, then peoples Github notifications is what determines what they get (not a issue pr. package, but rather pr. jobset evaluation)
<adisbladis> eyJhb: I think that'd be worse
<adisbladis> Issues for transient failures that are never going to get cleaned up...
<eyJhb> How come? Too many issues that never gets closed?
<eyJhb> Yeah
<adisbladis> It's going to be so much noise to signal ratio
<adisbladis> (with good enough tooling this may be a possibility)
<Piece_Maker> does anyone have a znc server with letsencrypt cert setup on nixos? I had it set up but it seems to have broken and I've no idea why
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Profpatsch merged pull request #108934 → toplevel: stdenv.lib -> lib → https://git.io/JLjvK
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Profpatsch pushed to master « toplevel: stdenv.lib -> lib »: https://git.io/JLjRe
<eyJhb> Piece_Maker: yes, but what is broken about it?
<eyJhb> adisbladis: Yeah, the tooling needs to be in place. Else it would... Suck
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Profpatsch merged pull request #108935 → x11/xorg: stdenv.lib -> lib in meta generator → https://git.io/JLjvA
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<Piece_Maker> my cert is up for renewal and it doesn't seem to want to do it (I guess this is more an acme service problem than a ZNC one, so I'm not sure why I mentioned the ZNC part!), the acme-zncserverdomain.service fails with this: https://termbin.com/pr15n
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<Piece_Maker> hunting around for that error with acme seems to suggest a problem with permissions of the directories specified... but those permissions look OK on my side
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<eyJhb> Piece_Maker: Do you have a nginx proxy setup or anything like that?
<eyJhb> Seems like something is changing the output of the .well-known
<Piece_Maker> hmmm
<marble_visions> Fmarble
<marble_visions> (ignore ^)
<eyJhb> Fmarble yourself! \s
<Piece_Maker> I do have the same subdomain in both services.nginx and also security.acme.certs
<Piece_Maker> I basically did this
<Piece_Maker> ahh wrong link, 1 sec
<Piece_Maker> that ^
<Piece_Maker> and then there's a postrun in the acme config that copies the full.pem to my znc dir
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @MetaDark opened pull request #108965 → texlab: 2.2.1 -> 2.2.2 → https://git.io/JLjRw
<eyJhb> Is your services.nginx using enableACME ?
<Piece_Maker> it is not
<Piece_Maker> 1 sec ill share the configs hehe
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<eyJhb> I think that might resolve your issue. However I am actually using the acme with a DNS Provider :p
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pstn opened pull request #108966 → nixos/murmur: Add overrideable package switch → https://git.io/JLjRd
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<Piece_Maker> ahh i thought the two might conflict because I've already got services.acme doing it 😆 hmm
<yurb> I'm getting results from nixos-20.03 in nix search in addition to nixos-20.09, but nix-channel doesn't list it; how to get rid of it?
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<Piece_Maker> did you give it a nix-channel update?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ajs124 merged pull request #108770 → Firefox 84.0.2 → https://git.io/JLpnJ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ajs124 pushed 6 commits to master: https://git.io/JLj03
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<BlackboardN> I'm not sure I understand how external package configuration is supposed to work with home-manager. I've added foo to my home.packages, and foo provides options under programs.foo, but they aren't recognized when I put them into home.nix. Is there a way to bring those options into scope along with all of home-manager's options? Or is there some
<BlackboardN> other idiomatic way to configure them?
<betawaffle> in a flake-based nixos configuration, should i be setting `_module.args.pkgs` or `nixpkgs.pkgs` to the package set i want?
<betawaffle> (or something else)
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<infinisil> betawaffle: You generally want to only modify the package set for NixOS using overlays, by setting `nixpkgs.overlays`
<betawaffle> ok cool
<infinisil> There is the `nixpkgs.pkgs` option though, but you need to make sure to apply the config, overlays (and ideally localSystem and crossSystem) similar to the example of that option
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<infinisil> s/example/default
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<philipp[m]> Is there a guideline, what changes exactly can be backported to stable?
<philipp[m]> I have this PR here that would save me some pain if it was in stable and I think it's reasonable to assume that it's pretty much backward compatible: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/108966
<{^_^}> #108966 (by pstn, 29 minutes ago, open): nixos/murmur: Add overrideable package switch
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<lordcirth> I downloaded the nixops repo and ran nix-shell, and I can run nixops. But it only works while I am in that directory. Is there no way to have the nixops command work in the nix-shell regardless of $PWD?
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<Yaniel> install it like any other application
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<lordcirth> Yaniel, nix-env -i . ?
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<Yaniel> put it in environment.systemPacakges
<Yaniel> or userPackages or wherever you put your apps
<Yaniel> nix-env -i if you really have to
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<Yaniel> and you don't need the repo cloned unless you want to hack on nixops itself, it is packaged in nixpkgs
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @lourkeur opened pull request #108969 → xpra: add update script → https://git.io/JLjzL
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @github-actions[bot] pushed 14 commits to staging-next: https://git.io/JLjzC
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @github-actions[bot] pushed 15 commits to staging: https://git.io/JLjzW
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<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/51894963cbd (from 4 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-unstable)
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<figsoda[m]> what does `path '...' is not in the Nix store` mean?
<eyJhb> Piece_Maker: I think you have to enable it to allow it, sorry for going AWAL. Did it fix your issue?
<figsoda[m]> I had a vm, but `nixos-install` failed with `path '/mnt/nix/store/ ...' is not in the Nix store`
<figsoda[m]> but both `nix build` and `nixos-rebuild` worked fine on my local machine
<Piece_Maker> <eyJhb "Piece_Maker: I think you have to"> Ha! No worries, I'm still updating, Nix takes hoursssssss on a Pi 3
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<eyJhb> Ohh yeah, it really does. Most use some emulation to build for their RPi
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<DigitalKiwi> it seems like when i try to start a xmonad+plasma5 session it starts kwin too...
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #108799 → pythonPackages.*: Disable various checkPhases with zero tests run, libgda: Fix building with newest mysql, vtk_{7,8}: Fi… → https://git.io/JLpgi
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<DigitalKiwi> in any case it doesn't work :( it goes to a black screen with the spinner and then eventually that goes away and i have a gray screen with xmonad working but no plasmashell (and it's only gray because i enabled compiz before it would stay on something that looked like the spinner had stopped spinning and i thought it was frozen...but it just doesn't refresh the screen anymore)
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<DigitalKiwi> nixos-unstable started a few weeks ago idk when
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<DigitalKiwi> on dec 19th it worked
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xaverdh opened pull request #108970 → treewide: simplify pkgs.stdenv.lib -> pkgs.lib → https://git.io/JLjg2
<Piece_Maker> <eyJhb "Ohh yeah, it really does. Most u"> yeah i don't run nixos on my desktop at the mo though so can't easily distcc it that way :( hmm, looks like I've hit the rate limit on letsencrypt now (or at least that's the error I'm getting now...)
<Piece_Maker> guess I can give it a day and see what happens hehe
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<DigitalKiwi> and if my timestamps are anything to go on it stopped working before jan 2nd
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #108971 → tflint: 0.23.0 -> 0.23.1 → https://git.io/JLjgr
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<DigitalKiwi> (i have a nixpkgs clone i made on jan 2nd with a git checkout of dec 19th that worked)
<eyJhb> Piece_Maker: not much else to do sadly..
<eyJhb> DigitalKiwi: git bisect?
<DigitalKiwi> the last thought in my head was "please don't make me git bisect"
<Piece_Maker> yeah its progress at least
<Piece_Maker> a different error is usually a good sign that the first error is no longer aproblem :D
<eyJhb> ;) I have bisected worse I would guess... :p
<eyJhb> Well! In this case the previous error could still come up
<DigitalKiwi> normally yes but the computer that is on would take weeks :(
<eyJhb> I would suggest you maybe disable the service for now
<eyJhb> Is it slower than a i7-3520m DigitalKiwi ?
<DigitalKiwi> it's a celeron 847 @1.10GHz
<eyJhb> weeks -> years.
<DigitalKiwi> i almost said that but i didn't want to be too hyperbolic
<DigitalKiwi> i could enable some remote builder maybe...
<eyJhb> Didn't believe you :p I am not sure what is the best way to go about it. Do you have a known good build?
<eyJhb> Because you can do some intelligent stuff, and only look at the related files changed in that time, e.g. x
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #108905 → flexget: 3.1.95 -> 3.1.98 → https://git.io/JLhyt
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JLj2v
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rmcgibbo closed pull request #108083 → python38Packages.clifford: fix broken hash → https://git.io/JL7qL
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 closed pull request #108924 → rubyPackages.nokogiri: Fix overwrites for 1.11.1 → https://git.io/JLhpg
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<DigitalKiwi> hmm
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<DigitalKiwi> if it is broken on aarch64 i have an idea ...
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<DigitalKiwi> eyJhb: do you know why nix search with nix flakes always downloads everytime and how to stop that...
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fabaff opened pull request #108972 → python3Packages.mulpyplexer: init at 0.08 → https://git.io/JLj2C
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<eyJhb> No clue sorry, I don't use flakes DigitalKiwi :( Sorry
<fuzzypixelz> was the Calamares installer dropped _only_ because of the security issues (mind filling me in on that? how come other distros like Manjaro are doing fine with it), or did people _also_ think nixos doesn't need a graphical installer? Given that all efforts to bring it back went nowhere
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ericson2314 merged pull request #108507 → ott-mode: Factor our from ott → https://git.io/JLNqw
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<eyJhb> fuzzypixelz: Just based on knowing nothing about it, but knowing the community I would guess that it is because it required too many resources to maintain
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<lordcirth> Yaniel, nixops 2.0 is not in nixpkgs, even master. Only 1.7
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<DigitalKiwi> fuzzypixelz: manjaro doing something is probably a good reason to not do something :)
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<DigitalKiwi> but what do you mean by dropped? it's in nixpkgs
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<DigitalKiwi> lordcirth: i have a few repos/branches with a way to do it
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<fuzzypixelz> DigitalKiwi: spot on. But seriously, most other distros have graphical installers the only ones that don't are the ones you (I) wouldn't want to run ayway (arch, void, g-g-ggentoo)
<lordcirth> DigitalKiwi, I just did nix-env -i '.*' -f .
<fuzzypixelz> DigitalKiwi: I'm talking about the official iso, if you can make a custom iso then you're probably comfortable enough to install it yourself on the command line, I would say
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<DigitalKiwi> idk it's a lot easier to make a custom iso than it is to install nixos lol
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<lordcirth> what? installing nixos is easy. mount, install, reboot
<lordcirth> I can't make a custom ISO offhand
<DigitalKiwi> installing for me is one command :D
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<noonien> hello!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nrdxp closed pull request #108349 → retroarch: fix darwin build → https://git.io/JLd5N
<noonien> is it possible to have global settings for glib and gtk? for settings that would normally go in .config/glib-2.0/settings/keyfile and .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini ?
<fuzzypixelz> umm, what do you mean by global?
<noonien> so that i set default values for all users
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ericson2314 merged pull request #107594 → Synchronize cross-stdenv LLVM input with pkgs.llvmPackages → https://git.io/JL1FE
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #108120 → ldeep: init at 1.0.9 → https://git.io/JL727
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #108110 → badchars: init at 0.4.0 → https://git.io/JL7Et
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fabaff opened pull request #108973 → python3Packages.pyelftools: unstable-0.27 -> 0.27 → https://git.io/JLjaS
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @AndersonTorres merged pull request #108801 → Many updates → https://git.io/JLpag
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @AndersonTorres pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/JLja9
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq merged pull request #108893 → go, buildGo{Module,Package}: remove branch, disabled → https://git.io/JLh6i
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Stunkymonkey opened pull request #108974 → mediaelch: 2.8.2 -> 2.8.4 → https://git.io/JLjV3
<pinpox> infinisil: cole-h eyJhb Yeah, coc-lua is not packaged. Is it really so hard to package that? I would expect it to be pretty much like the other coc plugins
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<pinpox> Also, some CocInstall'ed plugins are working file, just this one wont work
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<kalipso> hey, if i want to build a flake using: nix build github:username/repository the submodules of that git project are not getting fetched, is there a way to enable that?
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<eyJhb> pinpox: Also what I stated above, you might get lucky. But not it isn't THAT annoying, so it is fairly doable! You should have a stab at it if you have the time
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @petabyteboy opened pull request #108975 → uboot: add patch to fix #97064 → https://git.io/JLjwM
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis merged pull request #108962 → fprintd: Use cfg.package instead of pkgs.fprintd → https://git.io/JLjBR
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<aanderse> jtojnar2: Jan Tojnar ping... how do i pass `allowUnfree = true;` if adding your `php` packages to my `configuration.nix`
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<jtojnar> hmm, that will be hard
<aanderse> oops :(
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<aanderse> nixos-rebuild build worked
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<aanderse> nixos-rebuild test did not
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @oyren opened pull request #108976 → portfolio: 0.49.3 -> 0.50.0 → https://git.io/JLjrZ
<aanderse> Jan Tojnar: ok - just hard code it to true, or have an option to pass somehow?
<ZaraChimera> Successfully got my initial install done. One problem is that the nvidia drivers make font unreadably small in the nvidia control panel and in lightdm when logging in. Search-fu hasn't turned up much that is helpful for a NixOS install.
<ZaraChimera> I have tried tweaking the scaling in Enlightenment but it doesn't seem to affect the nVidia Control panel. And doesn't affect lightdm.
<jtojnar> aaron: I am not aware of any way to parametrize flakes 😿
<aanderse> ok
<aanderse> well if you're happy to add that i'm fine with it (and would **really** appreciate that)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @lukegb opened pull request #108977 → various: mark as broken or fix → https://git.io/JLjrX
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<jtojnar> aaron: pushed that
<jtojnar> alternately, you could use the overlay
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Profpatsch opened pull request #108978 → treewide: with stdenv.lib; in meta -> with lib; → https://git.io/JLjr5
<aanderse> Jan Tojnar: great it is working now. i'd prefer to selectively pull in packages, if that isn't a hassle
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #108844 → nixos/redis: add test for unix socket access → https://git.io/JLhkw
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JLjrp
<aanderse> thanks again for all your help on this
<aanderse> this will really help me out
<Nigel[m]> with networking.nat.enable = true (2nd, double NAT) and using services.dhcpd.extraConfig ... anyone able to help me know how to push push upstream DNS server addresses to clients?
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<pinpox> How do you update a flake nixos system correctly? I was just hinted here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/108954 that my system is out of date
<{^_^}> #108954 (by pinpox, 6 hours ago, open): tor-browser-bundle-bin: download error
<pinpox> I always was doing "nix flake update --recreate-lock-file" and the running "nixos-rebuild --flake "#.hostname" switch
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<pinpox> is that not enought to get everything up-to-date?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Profpatsch opened pull request #108979 → doc: stdenv.lib -> lib → https://git.io/JLjoX
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<aanderse> Jan Tojnar: awesome
<aanderse> I'll keep that in mind
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nagy opened pull request #108980 → poedit: use gtk3 → https://git.io/JLjox
<Mindavi> Hi, I was wondering how the nixos testing infrastructure works. I'm looking at the ZFS test suite (see https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/108649), but it takes very long to run. I'm looking for answers on these questions: What is an acceptable runtime for these tests? How often are they run?
<{^_^}> #108649 (by Atemu, 3 days ago, open): ZTS: ZFS Test Suite
<adisbladis> Mindavi: How long is "very long"?
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<adisbladis> 10 minutes?
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<Mindavi> adisbladis: The 'sanity check' test suite takes 41 minutes, the full test suite can take 'several hours', but haven't gotten a full run for that yet
<adisbladis> Hm, I seem to recall a much shorter running test suite?
<adisbladis> 41 minutes is unacceptable I'd say
<Mindavi> Yeah, I thought that might be too long as well
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<adisbladis> Hm, it was so long ago I looked at the ZFS tests
<Mindavi> There's indeed a simple sanity check that's currently in the tests folder already
<Mindavi> But there's an official test suite, I figured it might be interesting to use that
<Mindavi> But it takes way too long like this
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<adisbladis> Yeah, there is a reason why the tests are the way they are ;)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #108970 → treewide: simplify pkgs.stdenv.lib -> pkgs.lib → https://git.io/JLjg2
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<Guest28275> to do non-root remote building, the user being ssh'd into just has to be in nix-trusted, right?
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<Mindavi> Yeah, I guess so. Thanks for the information, I'll think if there's a way to just run a couple of tests. It's kinda hard to decide which tests are really useful though
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<adisbladis> Mindavi: You could use ztest directly
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @symphorien merged pull request #106082 → nixos/uwsgi: run with capabilities instead of root → https://git.io/JIWlf
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<adisbladis> That may be a good starting point for some test improvements
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<AmandaC> WEll, let's see if I got quassel happy with my nick now, instead of constantly trying to identify as another Amanda
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<armin> happens to the best of us
<armin> the person who tried to identify as me constantly was very thankful when i told them
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<armin> :)
<Mindavi> adisbladis: I got the zfs test suite running, so I think it would be nice to use that. There are options to run parts of it as well, so that's nice
<Mindavi> ztest might be useful too, indeed
<adisbladis> Mindavi: If you can find a reasonable subset to run I'd be very happy to merge that work
<Mindavi> What would be a more acceptable runtime? A couple of minutes?
<adisbladis> I tried when I created the original nixpkgs test
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @doronbehar merged pull request #108965 → texlab: 2.2.1 -> 2.2.2 → https://git.io/JLjRw
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<adisbladis> Mindavi: Hard to say exactly. IMO ZFS is important enough to occupy more testing time than most other packages. Arbitrarily I'd say maybe 10 minutes?
<adisbladis> That's completely arbitrary
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<Mindavi> Yeah, I'd think that it is indeed quite important. I guess we can discuss with some stakeholders in the PR when I submit it. I think between a couple mins to 10 mins is reasonable, but it shouldn't be longer than that.
<adisbladis> Mindavi: I'm the maintainer of the current ZFS nixpkgs tests
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<adisbladis> Just fyi
<Mindavi> Yeah, not sure if there's anyone else we should discuss this with then?
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<Mindavi> I did see that you created it indeed :) nice to have the correct person to talk to
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #108726 → nixos/networking: make /etc/netgroup by default → https://git.io/JLxPd
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<donofrio> what directory do I cp to get all of nix install copyed, I was suggested nix-copy-closure but that seems to be over networking when all I want is a local copy in case I brake something?
<Mindavi> adisbladis: Anyhow, I'm signing off again, you'll see a PR come in soon-ish probably :)
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<kingsley> What version is the video editor package named "kdenlive", now?
<adisbladis> donofrio: `nix copy` has the option to copy to a local directory
<AmandaC> donofrio: worth noting that anything new will have a different path in the nix store, so if you disable (or never enabled) automatic garbage collection it'll still be in the storr
<AmandaC> Unless you're doing something fucky like writing to the nix store from something not managed by nix
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @doronbehar opened pull request #108981 → nixos/mpd: use credentials only if needed → https://git.io/JLjKA
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<elvishjerricco> I have a path that I want to put in the nix store a la string interpolation. But it's a symlink to a file in the same directory. The string interpolation just puts a symlink into the store that points to the file name, which obviously doesn't exist in /nix/store. How do I get nix to copy the file that the symlink is pointing to instead of the symlink?
<donofrio> adisbladis, what about the derivations and such?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mweinelt opened pull request #108982 → home-assistant: 2021.1.0 -> 2021.1.1 → https://git.io/JLjKh
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @markuskowa opened pull request #108983 → Use mpi attribute consistently to provide a default MPI implementation → https://git.io/JLj6e
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<noonien> is there a helper to help me create a package using the output of another existing package, but with a patch added? i can do this with a normal derivation, i'm just wondering if there's a shortcut
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mweinelt merged pull request #104284 → [20.09] mariadb: 10.4.15 -> 10.4.17 → https://git.io/JkuLF
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mweinelt pushed 2 commits to release-20.09: https://git.io/JLj65
<kingsley> FWIW, I seem to have answered my own question: repology.org says nixpkgs unstable has version 20.08.3 of the video editor package named "kdenlive".
<mikroskeem> noonien: try override perhaps?
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<mikroskeem> let myPackage = origPackage.override { patches = [ (your-patch-here) ]; };
<noonien> i'm not sure overiding work, i don't want to rebuild the entire derivation, just modify one of its output file
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<noonien> works as i want it to*
<mikroskeem> can you bring a better example what you want to do?
<mikroskeem> what kind of a file you want to replace
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<noonien> well, there's a file in the kde plasma package, @share/plasma/layout-templates/org.kde.plasma.desktop.defaultPanel/contents/layout.js in the built package. i just need to patch a line of that, and i don't want to have to recompile plasma for a file that just gets copied to the output from the source
<mikroskeem> i see
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mweinelt merged pull request #108680 → python3Packages.pyiqvia: init 0.3.1 → https://git.io/JLxGX
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<{^_^}> [rfcs] @Infinisil closed pull request #84 → [RFC 0084] Input-aware fetchers → https://git.io/JLH7j
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<noonien> i'm not sure if should just copy the output from the original derivation, or do something else
<mikroskeem> symlink, probably
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<noonien> i'm wondering if it's a good idea to make hardlinks instead
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @stigtsp merged pull request #108957 → nix-generate-from-cpan: quote homepage, stdenv.lib -> lib → https://git.io/JLjlO
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Wulfsta opened pull request #108986 → psw: init at 0.1.2 → https://git.io/JLjP5
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cole-h closed pull request #108688 → linux_zen: 5.10.1 -> 5.10.5 → https://git.io/JLxWV
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cole-h merged pull request #108958 → Update zen kernels → https://git.io/JLjlg
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cole-h pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JLjPd
<cyphase> since when does https://nixos.org/nix/ redirect to https://nixos.org/ ?
<cole-h> Since the redesign, I imagine.
<ZaraChimera> Managed to figure out how to get connman working more eliably, I think. Using iwd as the backend seems to have helped matters.
<noonien> do you guys run anything similar to littlesnitch on nixos?
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<noonien> basically a firewall where the user can decide in real-time if connections are allowed
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<Piece_Maker> cant say I do... I just use the firewall service in configuration.nix, nothing fancy
<itai33[m]> so like, when is nix 2.4 coming out
<itai33[m]> usually i check milestones on github but it seems that they aren't used here
<itai33[m]> (I don't want to come off as entitled or anything i'm just interested)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @InternetUnexplorer opened pull request #108987 → nixos/plasma5: add kwinPackage option and kwin-lowlatency package → https://git.io/JLjM0
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<Raito_Bezarius> how to do something like cfg.someAttrSet.someName.name = someName automatically in NixOS module system?
<Raito_Bezarius> is there any special argument I can use for default?
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<Raito_Bezarius> to say: name is by default the attribute name of the thing I'm contained in as a value
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @github-actions[bot] pushed commit from GitHub Actions to master « Update flake.lock and blogs.xml [ci skip] »: https://git.io/JLjSz
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<binsaleh97[m]> Hi
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<binsaleh97[m]> الو
<binsaleh97[m]> 😂🤣😅
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<binsaleh97[m]> Piece_Maker: Piece_Maker