<lukegb>
ghasshee: it talks a bit about that immediately after the code block
<lukegb>
in particular: derivations need to create outputs, and you usually have the "main" one named "out", which means the builder needs to create something at the path specified by $out
<lukegb>
(I'm hoping someone will correct me on the things I am casually asserting as true which are based purely on my observations of nix rather than thinking too hard about how it actually works)
<ghasshee>
lukegb: I still do not follow what you said. chapter 6 told me how to create derivations and indeed `nix show-derivation` shows `out` variable in derivations.
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[nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 closed pull request #107163 → nix 2.4: include lowdown in both buildInputs and nativeBuildInputs. → https://git.io/JLR3s
<ghasshee>
I cannot fill the gap in my commamnd line.
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<lukegb>
ghasshee: "echo foo > $out" is the correct command line?
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<ghasshee>
I failed to execute "echo foo > $out" in my bash.
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<ghasshee>
claiming there is not $out variable.
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<ghasshee>
and after that I tried ;
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<ghasshee>
"out=/nix/store/*foo*"
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<ghasshee>
and then I also failed owing to read-only file system.
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<ghasshee>
ah, ooooo
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<ghasshee>
it must be in the file "builder.sh", isn't it?
<ghasshee>
lukegb: Thanks, I may have found my mistake.
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<ghasshee>
lukegb: I succeed to build. And I did not get warnings and verbose outputs which are displayed on the tutorial. Do you have any idea how to display them?
<ghasshee>
( in typing `:b d` )
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<clever>
ghasshee: try running the repl with `-L` ?
<ghasshee>
clever: thanks!
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<la-jesystani>
howdy, anywhere i can read about flakes? i read thergouh the rfc comments but i just wanna keep reading more they seem so cool
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<samueldr>
hat?
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<abathur>
samueldr: h@t
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[nixpkgs] @andersk opened pull request #108283 → cargo-download: Fix build by bumping url from 1.6.0 to 1.6.1 → https://git.io/JLdOW
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<duckfullstop>
on the off chance that anyone here has gotten drunk enough to even attempt this, does anyone have experience with running longhorn on k8s on nix?
<duckfullstop>
experiencing all kinds of fun with nsenter from the context of a container
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<duckfullstop>
my current train of thought is that because nixos uses a wildly different $PATH to the container's, any attempt to find binaries is bound to fail miserably
<duckfullstop>
failing this I'm going to have to subject myself to either gluster or ceph, and I'm honestly thinking bashing my head into this nice brick wall that I have adjacent might be more ideal than any of the present scenarios
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<Cale>
How do I determine all the local paths that will be copied into the nix store during the instantiation of a derivation? Eelco's thesis seems to suggest they're exactly the paths that either occur directly as attribute values of the derivation, or which occur arbitrarily nested inside lists in those attribute values. The string context isn't accounted for though. builtins.getContext can get me the corresponding paths in
<Cale>
the nix store that got instantiated by the splices in a string, but... I want the local paths, so I know which files could change to alter the derivation.
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<Cale>
(This also seems like it would be useful to know for security purposes, but for now I'm mostly concerned with a piece of software that wants to know which files to watch to automatically rebuild certain derivations.)
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<HenryCH>
hi, beginner here, would like to try nixos on a raspberry pi 4, i see there is information on the website on getting it running but i'm missing the foundational knowledge on the boot process to really understand what's going on, anyone know a good resource for this?
<clever>
HenryCH: #nixos-aarch64 is where all of the arm guys gather
<flokli>
ghasshee: so, these global NIX_*FLAGS* env var are a "hacky" way to get gcc to find the include/library paths, if the build system doesn't properly discover it via pkg-config
<ghasshee>
ah, so that's what you meant.
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<ghasshee>
I am unfamiliar with pkg-config and do you know is there any instructions ?
<flokli>
but the "having pkg-config in nativeBuildInputs, all your dependencies provide .pc files and your current derivation has a build system that asks pkgconfig for it" is a pretty common pattern
<ghasshee>
Nixpkgs Manual is a bit difficut for me now because I cannot grasp the whole view while reading them. So, I will finish pills first and will return to them.
<ghasshee>
And thanks again.
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[nixpkgs] @petabyteboy opened pull request #108314 → nixos/tests/shadow: add switch user subtest → https://git.io/JLduZ
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[nixpkgs] @teto merged pull request #108311 → buildLuaPackage: pass propagatedBuildInputs to final derivation → https://git.io/JLdRw
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[nixpkgs] @teto pushed commit from @lblasc to master « buildLuaPackage: pass propagatedBuildInputs to final derivation (#108311) »: https://git.io/JLduo
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[nixpkgs] @fabaff opened pull request #108316 → python3Packages.aiomultiprocess: init at 0.8.0 → https://git.io/JLdui
<flokli>
hmm, what's this "PAM unable to dlopen(/nix/store/qm6aayy2y92qw68f0bhv4yxb3kdlgi1c-linux-pam-1.5.1/lib/security/pam_tally.so): /nix/store/qm6aayy2y92qw68f0bhv4yxb3kdlgi1c-linux-pam-1.5.1/lib/security/pam_tally.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" spam about?
<Ke>
on $mainstream_distro pcmanfm follows freedesktop mime configs
<Ke>
but maybe not enough or nixos does them silly
<Ke>
or I did missconfig
<viric>
I don't know.
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<yorick>
oh, I see, it's from nixos-generate-config
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[nixos-homepage] @github-actions[bot] pushed commit from GitHub Actions to master « Update flake.lock and blogs.xml [ci skip] »: https://git.io/JLdal
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[nixpkgs] @khumba opened pull request #108322 → gramps: move intltool from buildInputs to nativeBuildInputs → https://git.io/JLdau
<Ke>
maybe I should debug at least first with xdg_open
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<vagyok>
hi. i have a question. i forked the nixpkgs repository, added my package, opened a pull request, it was accepted. now i see my package in the unstable channel. what should i do to make my package be available for 20.09 channel?
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[nixpkgs] @prusnak merged pull request #108287 → Fetch pffft from upstream project website instead of bitbucket → https://git.io/JLdnF
<donofrio>
anyone know how I remove my nix additions to OSX and start over this time in compile all mode excludeing/blacklisting "AVX" instruction set support on my 2008 imac?
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<matthewcroughan>
how exactly does this project work? I'm interested :D
<matthewcroughan>
Is it possible we could document it together if I learn?
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<lassulus>
uh, sure, it does currently get a layout (like in example/config.nix) and creates a bunch of scripts to generate/mount/configure the disk layout
<lassulus>
there are some outstanding features which I still want to implement, like raids or zfs
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[nixpkgs] @andir opened pull request #108330 → solanum: use older autoreconfHook & support parallel building → https://git.io/JLdK9
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<lordcirth__>
Anyone using a controller for games on NixOS? Just got Nier Automata, and it is unplayable on K/M. Wondering if only the official Xbox controllers are well supported?
<Yaniel>
I have a pair of xbone controllers and they work perfectly in wired mode
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<lordcirth>
Yaniel, using xboxdrv?
<Yaniel>
without it
<Yaniel>
there is a module for making the dongle work too (xow) but something is wonky with the udev rules in that
<Yaniel>
haven't had time to figure it out unfortunately
<lordcirth>
I don't really need wireless
<Yaniel>
in wired mode it's just plug the controller in and go
<Ke>
there are also nix utilities to do the modifications, if applicable depending on the use case
<KarlJoad>
Ke: I am appending to an rc file for GNU Octave. The RC file is already in the store, and I am building an environment around that. I need to update the RC file to point tot eh new location.
<Ke>
KarlJoad: I guess depends on, what you are appending to it
<DanielEbbert[m]>
<DigitalKiwi "Daniel Ebbert: i've added it to "> Awesome, thanks!
<Ke>
like is it something fixed you have in a file, or something generated fomr nix variables
<KarlJoad>
Ke: It's something fixed that I provide through a combination of $out and a fixed name. `echo $out/.octave_packages >> /writable/path/to/octaverc`
<matthewcroughan>
How can I install a specifi version of a pkg via nix-env?
<matthewcroughan>
like kicad5, vs kicad3
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<Ke>
I would just cp the file and echo, like you just did, but not sure what the pros do
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<KarlJoad>
Ke: That's the thing. I can't `cp /original/path/octaverc /build/` and then `echo`. I get a permission denied on the `cp` to /build.
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<Ke>
KarlJoad: chmod
<Ke>
maybe
<Ke>
or you can maybe just cat file > newfile
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<KarlJoad>
Ke: I'll try the chmod first, but that feels _really_ hacky.
<KarlJoad>
How can I export an environment variable that will be used during runtime? I can't seem to make wrapProgram work. In postBuildPhase it errors as command not found, and doesn't seem to do anything in the installPhase.
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<supersandro2000>
vagyok: we generally do not backport new packages to 20.09 because the effort and time it takes is to high
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[nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed commit from @cpcloud to release-20.09 « nixos/prometheus: update relabel_action list »: https://git.io/JLdD6
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[nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 opened pull request #108339 → Bing back pull request #107032 from cpcloud/nomad-nvml → https://git.io/JLdyl
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Can someone point me to a package that uses python during the program's runtime? Meaning the program in question calls out to Python to do something
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[nixpkgs] @suhr opened pull request #108346 → droidcam: init at 1.6 → https://git.io/JLdHa
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does anyone have any experience building a program which is both `c` and `go`, and uses a `Makefile` to build? it looks like the `Makefile` first builds some `.a` files with a `c` compiler, and then builds a `go` program which links in the `.a` files
<aanderse>
i don't know enough to get it to work and would really appreciate any help, even just conceptually, how to do this
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[nixpkgs] @zowoq merged pull request #108270 → go_2-dev: change pname/version to use unstable format → https://git.io/JL5jL
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[nixpkgs] @rencire opened pull request #108348 → linuxPackages.hid-nintendo: init at 3.0 → https://git.io/JLd7Y
<fuiltilt>
aanderse: That sounds pretty straightforward. How is it failing?
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<aanderse>
fuiltilt: thanks. if i try to build with `buildGoModule` the failure is that the `.a` files don't exist (it wasn't compiled, only the `go` stuff)
<aanderse>
if i try to build via the `Makefile` a host of other errors, i assume because it isn't using the nix `buildGoModule` stuff
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<fuiltilt>
aanderse: Forgot to mention that I haven't used Go... I meant it seems straightforward from a Makefile perspective. Maybe add 'preBuild = "make foo.a bar.a"; buildInputs = [ <whatever-deps> ];'? Just guessing, based on reading nixpkgs/pkgs/development/go-modules/generic/default.nix...
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[nixpkgs] @nrdxp opened pull request #108349 → retroarch: fix darwin build → https://git.io/JLd5N
<aanderse>
fuiltilt: was hoping to not have to duplicate `Makefile` logic, but yeah maybe I'll give that a try
<matthewcroughan_>
I'm trying to get gnome3 and plasma5 selectable via gdm on boot, but can't get it working for the following reason: error: The option `system.nixos-generate-config.desktopConfiguration' has conflicting definitions, in `/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/nixos/modules/services/x11/desktop-managers/gnome3.nix' and
<matthewcroughan_>
`/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/nixos/modules/services/x11/desktop-managers/plasma5.nix'.(use '--show-trace' to show detailed location information)
<matthewcroughan_>
any ideas?
<matthewcroughan_>
all that's needed to trigger this is: services.xserver.desktopManager.gnome3.enable = true; services.xserver.desktopManager.plasma5.enable = true;
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[nixpkgs] @Ericson2314 opened pull request #108350 → treewide: Inline more of the static overlay → https://git.io/JLdFg
<noobnix>
So if there isn't a package available in nix (`nix-env -i syslinux` that is available with apt (`apt-get install syslinux`) what do people normally do?
<edef>
syslinux is available, fwiw
<edef>
`nix-env -iA nixpkgs.syslinux` should do it, i think?
<edef>
(i don't remember how nix-env works with channels, since i do not use channels myself)
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[nixpkgs] @eliasp opened pull request #108356 → kinfocenter: fix symlink to systemsettings5 → https://git.io/JLdAa
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<DanielEbbert[m]>
I am currently trying to setup NixOs on my new work laptop (Lenovo Thinkpad E14) and I have the base system up and running. However, once I want to start an X server that does not work. In the logs the only error I can find is: "open /dev/dri/card0: No suck fil
<DanielEbbert[m]>
* I am currently trying to setup NixOs on my new work laptop (Lenovo Thinkpad E14) and I have the base system up and running. However, once I want to start an X server that does not work. In the logs the only error I can find is: "open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory"
<DanielEbbert[m]>
I've been looking for a solution and it does seem to be DRM related. Does anyone have any ideas?
<tejing>
noobnix: I'd normally use 'nix search' to check if it exists under some slightly different name. also, you usually want to use 'nix-env -iA'
<tejing>
noobnix: packages have 2 names in nix: a name field in their definition, and an attribute name in the nixpkgs attrset. 'nix-env -i' takes the former, but in order to do that it has to evaluate the definition of every package in nixpkgs. 'nix-env -iA' takes the latter and is generally faster
<donofrio>
anyone know how to remove my nix install and start a new install on my osx imac that will compile everything without AVX extentions (my core duo doesn't have it.)