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<bbigras> astylian: `virtualisation.docker.enableOnBoot = false;`
<KarlJoad> peelz: That's what I was looking for!
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<astylian> bbigras, I am really new to NixOs, how did you know about virtualisation.docker.enableOnBoot ? How can I find where those options exist?
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<astylian> bbigras, awesome, thanks a lot!!!
<bbigras> astylian: there's probably also a lot of interesting stuff in https://nixos.org/manual/nixos/stable/index.html . also when there's a new nixos release, the release notes often mention new cool options.
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<bbigras> astylian: you're welcome 😄
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<astylian> bbigras, is there any easy way to find the new options after a release?
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<peelz> KarlJoad: huh... it says "windows cannot be dragged between X screens" at the top
<bbigras> astylian: https://nixos.org/manual/nixos/stable/release-notes.html#sec-release-20.09-highlights and probably the next section too
<bbigras> I got the link from nixos.org , the announcement post about the latest release
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<KarlJoad> peelz: Now I remember, that's why I couldn't do multiple screens. I needed one screen using either Xinerama or xrandr.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus merged pull request #107165 → firmwareLinuxNonfree: 2020-11-18 -> 2020-12-18 → https://git.io/JLRlE
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus pushed commit from @TredwellGit to master « firmwareLinuxNonfree: 2020-11-18 -> 2020-12-18 »: https://git.io/JLHLH
<KarlJoad> I just got the config written correctly, and I get to a graphical session, with both monitors working, but they are separate screens (meaning no sharing of windows).
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus merged pull request #107351 → Bump rtl8821cu for Linux 5.10 support → https://git.io/JLHL5
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus pushed commit from @srid to master « Bump rtl8821cu for Linux 5.10 support »: https://git.io/JLHLd
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<KarlJoad> peelz: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multihead#Configuration_using_xorg.conf seems to indicate that X will recursively descend through specified monitors in a single screen.
<astylian> bbigras, I have added virtualisation.docker.enableOnBoot = false; and then I run systemctl status docker, and its says 'Unit docker.service could not be found'
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @sternenseemann opened pull request #107928 → ocamlPackages.mirage-console: 3.0.2 -> 4.0.0 and add -unix package → https://git.io/JLHtf
<bbigras> astylian: you also need `virtualisation.docker.enable = true;`
<bbigras> and you might want to add yourself to the "docker" group
<lovesegfault> energizer: not much, like ~512MB out of my 32GB of ram on my laptop
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak merged pull request #107904 → texstudio: 3.0.1 -> 3.0.3 → https://git.io/JL9p3
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<astylian> bbigras, ok that seems to work. (I had added my user in the group before, thx) can you explain me a bit how it works? When is the docker installation happening?
<bbigras> astylian: the docker files are installed when you switch to the configuration. The docker daemon is not running until you run the docker command. `systemctl status docker` says `TriggeredBy: ● docker.socket`.
<bbigras> astylian: maybe you could also consider using podman. I heard it's a docker drop-in replacement without a daemon.
<astylian> bbigras, I am using lxc some times, I haven't try podman yet...
<astylian> bbigras, but when is the installation happening, how the nixos knows when I switch my configuration to install docker?
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<bbigras> astylian: not sure what you mean but when you run `sudo nixos-rebuild switch` your config files are parsed and the nix tools will download the docker files and add them to the nix store.
<peelz> KarlJoad: honestly I have no idea. Xorg is a mess and the X configuration is beyond human comprehension. Let me know if you get it to work :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @sternenseemann opened pull request #107929 → ocamlPackages.syslog-message: init at 1.1.0 → https://git.io/JLHtV
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<KarlJoad> peelz: Will do. Getting the fun issue now where when I'm graphical, one monitor works, but when in console, the other one works. Not both simultaneously.
<peelz> oof
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zimbatm merged pull request #107878 → duckstation: init at unstable-2020-12-28 → https://git.io/JLSpS
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zimbatm pushed commit from @guibou to master « duckstation: init at unstable-2020-12-29 (#107878) »: https://git.io/JLHtH
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #107132 → zstd: 1.4.5 -> 1.4.8 → https://git.io/JL8D1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to staging: https://git.io/JLHqq
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #107913 → gitoxide: 0.4.3 -> 0.6.0 → https://git.io/JLHe0
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<worldofpeace> pushqrdx: Yeah, I think they moved to portals for file dialog and the gtk module for the filechooser has been dropped
<worldofpeace> they have a patch to export GTK_USE_CSD=1
<worldofpeace> but then I guess there's a portal to add via the module, then
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #107901 → promscale: 0.1.3 -> 0.1.4 → https://git.io/JL9A9
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<lordcirth> How can I raise the default ulimit -n (number of open file descriptors) across the whole system? I tried systemd.extraConfig = ''LimitNOFILE=infinity''; didn't seem to do anything
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<lordcirth> 1024 seems really low
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<donofrio> I have a volume that will not mount (boot volume "disk0s2" 639.3gb) what would I do to "heal it" (note first aid don't even want to touch it)
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<donofrio> opps that was for osx channel
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<energizer> lovesegfault: ok cool
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #107930 → tectonic: 0.3.3 -> 0.4.0 → https://git.io/JLHYl
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #107931 → broot: 1.0.8 -> 1.1.10 → https://git.io/JLHYE
<energizer> i always forget how to do this. what's the syntax for running a command periodically? https://bpa.st/CFJQ
<infinisil> energizer: home-manager doesn't have a startAt option
<infinisil> That only works with NixOS services
<energizer> oh
<infinisil> Creates a timer unit
<energizer> so something like this? https://bpa.st/BPNQ
<infinisil> Nah, a timer unit is not part of a service
<infinisil> You need to use systemd.user.timers
<infinisil> Oh also, home-manager's systemd units have the serviceConfig at the toplevel
<infinisil> Well no, but you need to use services.tealdeer.Service.Type = ..., etc.
<infinisil> There's many examples in the home-manager services
<energizer> ok ill look there
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #107932 → flow: 0.139.0 -> 0.141.0 → https://git.io/JLHOU
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #107933 → ruby_3_0: init 3.0.0 → https://git.io/JLHOO
<energizer> infinisil: https://bpa.st/6I5A like this?
<energizer> it doesn't complain when building, but doesnt seem to work either. maybe i need to reboot
<siraben> How do I resolve `experimental Nix feature 'nix-command' is disabled; use '--experimental-features nix-command' to override`?
<siraben> `nix build --experimental-features nix-command flakes` doesn't seem to let me enable both
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<energizer> you probably have to pass it twice
<infinisil> energizer: Something like that yeah, check `systemctl --user status teardeer/tealdeer.timer` and `journalctl --user -u tealdeer/tealdeer.timer` for debugging
<energizer> yeah i looked at those, i think they didn't reload properly
<infinisil> Also, I think sometimes I needed `systemctl --user daemon-reload`
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<energizer> after daemon-reload and systemctl --user restart tealdeer.timer i think it's working
<energizer> thanks
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<siraben> energizer: ` nix build --experimental-features nix-command --experimental-features flakes` still nope
<energizer> siraben: dunno then
<siraben> I'll just set `experimental-features = nix-command flakes` in ~/.config/nix/nix.conf then
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak merged pull request #107932 → flow: 0.139.0 -> 0.141.0 → https://git.io/JLHOU
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<Rusty1> ogoogle.com
<Rusty1> qute, eh?
<gchristensen> spam?
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<Rusty1> clumsy typing, sorry. using qutebrowser in all its vimness
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<gchristensen> no worries :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 opened pull request #107934 → gitoxide: Fix build on darwin → https://git.io/JLH3P
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #107935 → buku: 4.4 -> 4.5 → https://git.io/JLH3F
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<bqv> siraben: it needs "quotes", on the command line
<siraben> I have a project that has an overlay inside it, but I'm wondering if I should move the derivations into their respective projects instead of being here, https://github.com/oriansj/blynn-compiler/tree/master/pkgs
<siraben> What's good practice here? Because if I move them to their own respective repos and track nixpkgs with niv, then it seems like it would get messy
<siraben> Messy in that each project has their own rev of nixpkgs instead of being synchronized
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #107806 → smesh, pythonPackages.{pythonocc-core,cadquery}: Fix building on darwin → https://git.io/JLSIm
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<hyper_ch> infinisil: could you have a look here https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/107634 ?
<{^_^}> #107634 (by sjau, 3 days ago, open): util-linux: removing symfollow
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @lovesegfault merged pull request #107930 → tectonic: 0.3.3 -> 0.4.0 → https://git.io/JLHYl
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<KarlJoad> Is anyone here using 2 separate discrete GPUs with 2 monitors on 1 X screen? If so, would you mind sharing your config?
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<energizer> KarlJoad: im curious what's the benefit of using one gpu per monitor?
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<KarlJoad> energizer: I don't really think there is. I just want to use both GPUs, as they're both in the case right now.
<KarlJoad> energizer: The weird thing is, I get the exact behavior I want on a more traditional Linux Desktop distro. But, I can't seem to make it work with NixOS.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c00w closed pull request #94585 → Add goDeps handling to go-modules. → https://git.io/JJwax
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c00w closed pull request #86282 → Migrate some go builds from buildGoPackage to buildGoModule → https://git.io/Jfmdm
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<donofrio> how do I install my own sandbox python3 that doesn't use AVX?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @AndersonTorres merged pull request #106800 → protontricks: 1.4.2 -> 1.4.3 → https://git.io/JIP0o
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @AndersonTorres merged pull request #107111 → woof: 2012-05-31 -> 2020-12-17 → https://git.io/JLlEe
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @AndersonTorres pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JLHZD
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ericson2314 pushed 9 commits to master: https://git.io/JLHZF
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ericson2314 merged pull request #107914 → ocamlPackages.mirage: fix build by adding missing deps → https://git.io/JLHeE
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<donofrio> qyliss, do you know how I can install a sandbox python3 without AVX? (youtube-dl is not working - says illegal instruction)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @AndersonTorres merged pull request #107809 → clojure-lsp: 20201207T142850 -> 20201228T020543 → https://git.io/JLSIK
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<lordcirth> siraben, if you use flakes, you can have only the top level flake have a flake.lock, and the imports inherit their nixpkgs from it.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #107931 → broot: 1.0.8 -> 1.1.10 → https://git.io/JLHYE
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<energizer> ,locate bin/pamu2fcfg
<{^_^}> Found in packages: pam_u2f
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rvl opened pull request #107938 → nixos/borgbackup: Document wrapper script and show excludes file path → https://git.io/JLHnE
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<nilsirl[m]> Hi, I'm trying to compile https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/mozilla-vpn-client, currently my default.nix looks like this: https://gist.github.com/NilsIrl/189a4e809d2b28221c990f2876782429. when I try to follow the instructions and run `make`, however, I get the error: `Project ERROR: polkit-gobject-1 development package not found`. Shouldn't that be included in `polkit`?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c00w opened pull request #107940 → credhub-cli: fix build under go1.15 → https://git.io/JLHcH
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<nilsirl[m]> Adding pkg-config to the nativeBuildInputs fixed the issue.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @c00w opened pull request #107941 → ipfs-cluster: Remove go1.14 pinning. → https://git.io/JLHcA
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<fps> hi, to build the nvidia drivers with a rt-preempt patched kernel (from musnix) i had to apply this diff to pkgs/os-specific/linux/nvidia-x11: https://paste.debian.net/1178815/
<fps> now i wonder how to best make this user configurable
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ninjin opened pull request #107945 → fdm: 1.9.0.20170124 -> 2.0 → https://git.io/JLH8Y
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @MetaDark closed pull request #107918 → gcc10: use gcc 9 patch of mcfgthread.patch to fix MinGW build → https://git.io/JLHJe
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #107946 → python37Packages.zstandard: 0.14.1 -> 0.15.0 → https://git.io/JLH4Y
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat opened pull request #107947 → python3Packages.mypy: don't use mypyc on 32-bit platforms → https://git.io/JLHBG
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<sephi[m]> Is there a way to use only some files from a directory as src? I’m trying to package a website with a Django backend and uses webpack to build the JS files. I’m using mach-nix to create a derivation for the Python part, and node2nix for the webpack part. My node2nix derivation uses `src = ./.`, which means the derivation gets rebuilt for every change in the directory (even in a Python file). Ideally I’d like to only kee
<sephi[m]> `package.json` and `package-lock.json` as src for my node2nix derivation.
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<energizer> sephi[m]: poetry + poetry2nix
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<sephi[m]> energizer: my problem is actually about the node part, not the Python part. I’m not sure how poetry would help me solve it?
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<energizer> oh. nevermind then
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @eliasp opened pull request #107948 → akonadi: add missing kaccounts deps → https://git.io/JLH0K
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<maddo> \o/
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pacien opened pull request #107949 → [20.09] nixos/ssmtp: fix configuration generator to accomodate ssmtp → https://git.io/JLHEv
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xaverdh opened pull request #107950 → android-file-transfer: 4.1 -> 4.2 → https://git.io/JLHE4
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fabaff opened pull request #107952 → python3Packages.adb-shell: 0.2.3 -> 0.3.0 → https://git.io/JLHE0
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pacien opened pull request #107953 → [20.09] nixos/msmtp: add msmtp module → https://git.io/JLHEK
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh opened pull request #107954 → Revert "libjpeg_turbo: apply cmake patch for darwin" → https://git.io/JLHE6
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @AndersonTorres merged pull request #107949 → [20.09] nixos/ssmtp: fix configuration generator to accomodate ssmtp → https://git.io/JLHEv
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @AndersonTorres pushed 2 commits to release-20.09: https://git.io/JLHuI
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #107955 → python37Packages.pyclipper: 1.2.0 -> 1.2.1 → https://git.io/JLHut
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #107954 → Revert "libjpeg_turbo: apply cmake patch for darwin" → https://git.io/JLHE6
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #107947 → python3Packages.mypy: don't use mypyc on 32-bit platforms → https://git.io/JLHBG
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @vcunat to master « python3Packages.mypy: don't use mypyc on 32-bit platforms »: https://git.io/JLHzQ
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<nature> Is there a way to do a `nixos-rebuild` without network ?
<qyliss> nature: --option substitute false
<nature> Thanks qyliss !
<nature> So perfect when you you want to just change your vim config or wifi setting <3
<qyliss> yeah
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jshholland closed pull request #105086 → zig: 0.6.0 -> 0.7.1 → https://git.io/JkQqm
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<pie_> when did nixpkgs get ghc 8.10? it doesnt seem to be part of 20.09 yet and my build of llvm segfaulted on nixos-unstable...
<pie_> not sure if the segfault was a machine problem or its broken?
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<pie_> well im lost, sometimes i van get niv to give me ghc 8.10 with some nixos branch other times its 8.6.5 or something
<pie_> i switched it to nixos-unstable and told it to update and its sill 8.6.5
<wesleyac> anyone here know about getting android-studio/react-native set up? running into a problem where the version of the sdk directory that's in /nix/store has not accepted the license agreement, and thus refuses to run :/ following along with https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Android#gradlew
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<pie_> ok what. ghc says its 8.6.5 but when i check the nix repl its reported as 8.10
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @JamieMagee opened pull request #107956 → pythonPackages.python-tado: init at 0.9.0 → https://git.io/JLHgD
<pie_> oh let me guess this doesnt invoke -A on the shell set nix-shell nix/shell.nix -A nixpkgs.ghc -v
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<pie_> nope looks like thats fine..
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto merged pull request #106760 → broadcom: fix build 5.9 → https://git.io/JIidD
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto pushed commit from @SebastienWae to master « kernelPackages.broadcom_sta: fix build for 5.9 (#106760) »: https://git.io/JLHgS
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Profpatsch merged pull request #107514 → Tree sitter fetch all grammars → https://git.io/JLXVk
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Profpatsch pushed 10 commits to master: https://git.io/JLHgd
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @tex opened pull request #107957 → add persistent option → https://git.io/JLH2O
<quinn> has anyone got nuitka and pyqt to play nice?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ztzg opened pull request #107958 → vmTools.debClosureGenerator: Fix non-determinism in dependency graph → https://git.io/JLH2G
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @tex opened pull request #107959 → add persistent and randomizeDelaySec options → https://git.io/JLH2B
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @tex closed pull request #107805 → Add randomizedDelaySec, persistent options to nix-gc and auto-upgrade → https://git.io/JLSk6
<pie_> why does niv end up importing things from my system channel...
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<pie_> this was the problem <pie_> oh let me guess this doesnt invoke -A on the shell set nix-shell nix/shell.nix -A nixpkgs.ghc -v
<pie_> this cli is dumb
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak merged pull request #107917 → tiramisu: init at 1.0 → https://git.io/JLHfD
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<wesleyac> well i figured out my problem, nixpkgs doesn't have sdk version 29, but that's the version i need. i wonder how painful it's going to be to package it :/
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @KAction opened pull request #107961 → par: fix static build → https://git.io/JLHV0
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @AndersonTorres merged pull request #107953 → [20.09] nixos/msmtp: add msmtp module → https://git.io/JLHEK
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<belst> hello, does anyone know how you can set chalresp_path for yubico-pam
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<belst> there is no such option but it is required according to the yubico documentation
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak merged pull request #107952 → python3Packages.adb-shell: 0.2.3 -> 0.3.0 → https://git.io/JLHE0
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JLHVj
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak closed pull request #107945 → fdm: 1.9.0.20170124 -> 2.0 → https://git.io/JLH8Y
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak reopened pull request #107945 → fdm: 1.9.0.20170124 -> 2.0 → https://git.io/JLH8Y
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andir merged pull request #106993 → notcurses: init at 2.1.0 → https://git.io/JLscE
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flyfloh opened pull request #107962 → Colmap: 3.5 -> 3.6 and fix colmapWithCuda build → https://git.io/JLHrJ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flyfloh closed pull request #102223 → lexicon: 3.4.3 -> 3.4.4 → https://git.io/JTHJL
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<reactormonk> I'm getting error: executing SQLite query 'select id, hash, registrationTime, deriver, narSize, ultimate, sigs, ca from ValidPaths where path = ?;': disk I/O error (in '/nix/var/nix/db/db.sqlite') # but my FS doesn't have any error logs relating to it
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flyfloh closed pull request #104402 → python-miio: 0.5.3 -> 0.5.4 → https://git.io/Jk2Tp
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<reactormonk> If I execute the sql via sqlite3 and root, it works just fine?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @github-actions[bot] pushed 39 commits to staging-next: https://git.io/JLHrn
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @github-actions[bot] pushed 41 commits to staging: https://git.io/JLHrc
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @sternenseemann opened pull request #107963 → meteor: 1.10.2 -> 1.12 → https://git.io/JLHrg
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fabaff opened pull request #107964 → python3Packages.PyChromecast: 7.5.1 -> 7.7.1 → https://git.io/JLHra
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #107770 → python3Packages.astropy: unbreak → https://git.io/JLylZ
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<Nigel[m]> I have found a bug: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Wireguard#Client_setup how do I go about suggesting a fix?
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<makefu> Nigel[m]: really depends on the bug but normally you create an account and edit it directly :) if there are any issues with it someone will revert or update the page as all changes are announced in #nixos-wiki . you can also join this channel and ask more in-depth questions
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<Nigel[m]> OK, can fix in the wiki.. There is a missing ip route rule in the configuration - I may need help to triage that
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rnhmjoj merged pull request #107939 → ncdns: Update to 2020-11-22 to remove go1.14 dep. → https://git.io/JLHc4
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<wesleyac> in case anyone has the misfortune to stumble upon the irc logs trying to get android stuff working, pinning nixpkgs to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/89775 works for now, once that lands everything should just be happy
<{^_^}> #89775 (by numinit, 29 weeks ago, open): Rework androidenv package list generation
<simukis_> is there a `symlinkJoin` that copies files rather than links them?
<stites[m]1> how can I change a source file (ie: change `java` in a build helper-script to reference nix's jre)?
<infinisil> stites[m]1: One way is substituteInPlace in postPatch
<infinisil> You should be able to find lots of examples of this in nixpkgs
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak merged pull request #107945 → fdm: 1.9.0.20170124 -> 2.0 → https://git.io/JLH8Y
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<siraben> Anyone who uses node2nix know how to add other packages to the nix shell?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Infinisil merged pull request #107935 → buku: 4.4 -> 4.5 → https://git.io/JLH3F
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Infinisil pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JLHPq
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<cinimod> What's the right syntax for this? `nix-shell -p (dvc {enableGoogle = true;})`
<cinimod> I don't think `dvc` can be a function
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<b42> cinimod: dvc.override { enableGoogle = true; } maybe?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl merged pull request #107445 → ocamlPackages.cppo: 1.6.{5,6} → 1.6.7 → https://git.io/JLHPP
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<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @github-actions[bot] pushed commit from GitHub Actions to master « Update flake.lock and blogs.xml [ci skip] »: https://git.io/JLHPA
<siraben> does anyone know how to configure push to talk for mumble on wayland? can't seem to bind the key
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @kevincox merged pull request #107638 → opentabletdriver: init at 0.4.2/add module → https://git.io/JLMBT
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @kevincox pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JLHXy
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<noonien> hello folks
<noonien> has anyone managed to get a latest stable nixos build installed on a rpi3?
<ChrisOboe[m]> hi peoples,
<ChrisOboe[m]> does anyone know if it's possible to declarative configure users for a samba server?
<noonien> yes, i'm aware of that
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<noonien> i've used https://github.com/Robertof/nixos-docker-sd-image-builder to build a sd image for installation
<siraben> I haven't installed NixOS on ARM (reMarkable 1 tablet) but https://github.com/DavHau/nix-on-armv7l let me install Nix
<noonien> and following the steps on the README.md, and the nixos wiki, however after the `nixos-rebuild switch` it doesn't boot anymore
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<noonien> i'm guessing it has something to do with the the instructions to remove boot parititon
<noonien> i'll try to leave it enabled and try again
<noonien> i was hoping someone already succeeded so i could get some pointers for the end process
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @iAmMrinal0 opened pull request #107966 → google-cloud-sdk: 319.0.0 -> 321.0.0 → https://git.io/JLH1N
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<stites[m]1> infinisil: thank you!
<siraben> noonien: if you figure it out, I would be interested as well
<siraben> it's supposed to be support, AFAIK
<noonien> will do. yup. I think you can just grab an image from hydra, and if you have a serial port or hdmi/keyboard, that should get you going
<noonien> i just want to do this without any extra cables, preferably just wifi
<siraben> hm, could you install it on the SD card?
<Yaniel> > serial port
<{^_^}> undefined variable 'serial' at (string):460:1
<Yaniel> ahh the good memories of unbricking openwrt routers over uart
<noonien> well, not a serial port, but a console over u[s]art
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<siraben> i should check for OpenWRT next time i buy a router, sounds like fun
<siraben> hmm, NixOS on routers anyone?
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<noonien> well, nixos works on arm, or you could get an x86 router
<noonien> i do remember reading something about using nix on routers though. however, most routers have very low persistent memory
<Yaniel> openwrt was okay, too bad the router I was running it on was garbage
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bhipple opened pull request #107967 → tbb: fix installPhase bug skipping hooks → https://git.io/JLHDb
<cinimod> b42: thanks
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fabaff opened pull request #107968 → python3Packages.psutil: 5.7.3 -> 5.8.0 → https://git.io/JLHy5
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<dyazz> noonien: I just configured a rpi4 yesterday
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<dyazz> I had a problem because the main partition is too small, the sd image only make a 2Gb partition, I had to extend it
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak merged pull request #107964 → python3Packages.PyChromecast: 7.5.1 -> 7.7.1 → https://git.io/JLHra
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak pushed 5 commits to master: https://git.io/JLHSU
<asbachb> Hi. I wonder what's the most recent way of defining a fetchurl hash?
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<Yaniel> I've seen a bunch of hash = "sha256:blahblah"
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @corngood opened pull request #107969 → jellyfin: add openFirewall option → https://git.io/JLHS3
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<collares> hi folks! sorry for pinging, but would anyone be willing to merge an emacs2nix version bump in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/107839 ? it would unblock emacs-overlay users
<{^_^}> #107839 (by collares, 1 day ago, open): emacs2nix: update to fix locale issues and a missing elpa package
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @sternenseemann opened pull request #107971 → ocamlPackages.mirage: reintroduce dev output → https://git.io/JLHS6
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rb2k opened pull request #107972 → librepo: enable zchunk support on darwin → https://git.io/JLHSi
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aszlig opened pull request #107973 → python/r2pipe: Fix build → https://git.io/JLHSD
<noonien> dyazz: yeah, i did that after writing the sd card, so i don't have to do it live on the pi
<noonien> dyazz: could you share your configuration.nix for the pi by any chance?
<dyazz> noonien: of course, give me a sec
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @wmertens opened pull request #107974 → pam_ssh_agent_auth: 0.10.3 -> 0.10.4 → https://git.io/JLHSx
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh merged pull request #107893 → python3Packages.numexpr: 2.7.1 -> 2.7.2 → https://git.io/JL99r
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @rmcgibbo to master « python3Packages.numexpr: 2.7.1 -> 2.7.2 »: https://git.io/JLHSh
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mweinelt opened pull request #107975 → home-assistant: 2020.12.1 -> 2020.12.2 → https://git.io/JLH9O
<dyazz> noonien: Here https://pastebin.com/ceVCUD6u
<noonien> thank you!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl merged pull request #107929 → ocamlPackages.syslog-message: init at 1.1.0 → https://git.io/JLHtV
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl pushed commit from @sternenseemann to master « ocamlPackages.syslog-message: init at 1.1.0 »: https://git.io/JLH9l
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<leibniz[m]> I'm considering Xubuntu 20.04, debian and NixOS for my next OS. I've been using Xubuntu 18.04 with i3wm for a year. Any good intro material? Good YouTube pitch for NixOS?
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<leibniz[m]> (Debian+nix) vs NixOS
<Yaniel> NixOS is basically "worst case you'll have to reboot into the previous configuration"
<Yaniel> no clutter from old packages in /etc and other places that eventually get full of junk on debian based distros
<Yaniel> well, most traditional distros
<dyazz> And it's very reproducible, I share most of my config between my laptop and my desktop
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<leibniz[m]> Yaniel: I have a markdown-based log file in my dotfiles. Whatever I do with my OS, and I mean whatever!, I add a line into that explaining it, so if something acts up, I know what package/binary to blame.
<leibniz[m]> And there are ~10 apps that I use most often and care about (vim/fzf/i3/thunar/etc) and I decided that I build them myself.
<leibniz[m]> Now, I can continue this approach with debian...I guess that nix config is my manual dotfile
<Yaniel> if you're into tinkering and trying out stuff straight from git it's also easy to do that for anything on the system with nixos (and again very low risk + effortless cleanup)
<Yaniel> leibniz[m]: are you also going through every file a program created when you uninstall it and make sure it gets removed?
<leibniz[m]> Yaniel: how nixos manages that? I saw somewhere that the filesystem is the price for it
<Yaniel> nixos just symlinks everything that needs to exist into place at boot
<Yaniel> you can even have / on a tmpfs if you really want to make sure nothing unnecessary survives a reboot: https://grahamc.com/blog/erase-your-darlings
<noonien> leibniz[m]: I don't recommend running nix with another distro, you can, but you won't get the full nixos experience. NixOS does have a learning curve, and it will be difficult to do some things that you're used to on debian/ubuntu. But you can always fire up a docker repo.
<leibniz[m]> I can try nixos in vbox, right?
<noonien> Personally, when I use nix outside of nixos, is just to build stuff. I'm not fond of nix-env at all.
<Yaniel> sure
<tejing> leibniz[m]: nixos doesn't follow the FHS, instead each package gets its own file or directory under /nix/store. in a way that's a price, as you generally need some extra work to package a program for nix, because you have to wrangle control over where it expects files to be
<noonien> Yes, I would actually recommend that!
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<leibniz[m]> Alpine has a really nice YT pitch. Does NixOS have anything similar?
<Yaniel> noonien: nix-env use is discouraged anyway
<noonien> After you've finished your configuration.nix. You can just use that directly on your PC.
<Yaniel> in favour of nix-shell and systemPackages
<tejing> but that work has mostly already been done for you with nixpkgs
<noonien> Same ^
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<noonien> (regarding nix-shell and systemPackages)
<noonien> I'm not very fond of home-manager either, but in all fairness, I haven't given it a try yet.
<leibniz[m]> So I use pipx for python venv apps and pyenv for python versions. I can still do them in nixOS right?
<dyazz> You can directly use the nix-shell instead of venv
<noonien> Probably yes. Most of the stuff just works. But packaging them for nix is usually nice.
<Yaniel> you should use nix-shell instead yes
<dyazz> You declare in a file the package needed for your env, and nix build a shell environment with everything loaded
<tejing> the main warning i'd give is make sure you're prepared to install *everything* through nix, since on nixos, using non-packaged software is... difficult. A binary or script that would work on a FHS-compliant system will almost never even run at all on nixos. Fortunately even highly customized things are quite doable with nix, so it works out fine.
<noonien> Some other packaging systems have some difficulty integrating into nix. Some python packages can make your life hard, but MOST of the time you'll be just fine. And you can just run a venv if you want to.
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<leibniz[m]> tejing: Is there a list of pre-packaged apps for nixos? (to see which ones are done by community)
<noonien> tejing: I don't agree. You can package FHS software for nix pretty easily. And binaries and scripts work just fine in a shell that you have required dependencies in.
<noonien> leibniz[m]: all packages in nixos are done by the community
<leibniz[m]> I usually build locally and add the binary to path. I lose manpages and stuff.
<leibniz[m]> And NixOS is a "source-based distro" like gentoo right?
<Yaniel> nixos is source based but supports fetching cached build artifacts from a build server to save time
<noonien> You can package yourself, adding your own packages to nixos releases is as easy as submitting a PR to nixpkgs. If you just want to package them for yourself, you don't never need to create a PR.
<tejing> noonien: yeah, the extra packaging work is pretty minimal, sometimes basically zero, and there are simple enough workarounds for the binaries and scripts too, but for a user new to nixos, the fact that you can't just run a linux binary tends to be a confusing surprise, so I think it's worth mentioning
<noonien> leibniz[m]: Kinda, I don't think gentoo offers build caches. Nor is it pure (which makes caching basically impossible)
<noonien> tejing: agreed
<noonien> Sometimes when i'm lazy, i just fire up a docker container
<Yaniel> (well technically there are some packages that take a prebuilt .deb, unpack it and patch what is needed before arranging everything into the nix store)
<Yaniel> (but where sources are available nixpkgs tends to favour those over prebuilt binaries... or provide both options)
<tejing> leibniz[m]: I'm sure there's a list of what's in nixpkgs somewhere on the web, but I just use the command line stuff in nixos, so I don't know where to point you toward
<noonien> leibniz[m]: see https://repology.org/
<noonien> nix has the most packages out of all distro packagers as far as I can tell.
<Yaniel> doesn't repology count a lot of packages multiple times though
<Yaniel> like all python*Packages.<package>
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<noonien> does it? I'm not sure
<noonien> well, those are packages
<tejing> yeah, the count's a bit of a lie, but even so, nix has almost anything you're likely to want
<noonien> they have similar packages on debian as well, for example
<noonien> python*-<package>
<Yaniel> point
<Yaniel> and usually you have to use the exact correct one regardless of distro anyway
<dyazz> To be fair, NixOS has a lot of Haskell packages
<Yaniel> so more of a "library/application" count vs "package" count question
<noonien> in nix, this is kind of a cheat, since they're only described once probably, but other distros have to pacakge them separately.
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-20.09-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/0a954ac5abe (from 4 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-20.09-small)
<Yaniel> best kind of cheat
<noonien> if you take all combinations of packages, there's probably an infinite amount of package combinations though, yeah
<leibniz[m]> Why is there a stability staging when users can just run a previous snapshot?
<noonien> just for having a stable build
<Yaniel> nixpkgs-unstable might not even build
<noonien> you can use packages from unstable on stable nixos
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<noonien> you can use any packages from anywhere, nixpkgs is just a git repo, it's no different from any other git repo, except for the fact that it has a lot of packages
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<noonien> you can even run your own fork of nixpkgs, or just some packages
<noonien> this might seem a bit confusing perhaps, but all of nixos packaging infrastructure is open source, because it's all just nix code.
<noonien> unlike any other distro (with few exceptions, like guix probably)
<tejing> leibniz[m]: one thing that sounds like it would be a big advantage for you specifically is that customized/local packages are first class citizens in nix. The only thing that's really different about them is that there's no cached copy to download so you have to build it locally
<leibniz[m]> wow..what the hell...guys things you say is really exciting...I don't know why every single /g/ poster or HN commenter is not talking about nixos (or are they)...
<Yaniel> they're too busy using arch (btw)
<noonien> yeah, they've all got memed by arch (which is horrible btw)
<Yaniel> well it *is* good at keeping you busy :P
<tejing> that, and nixos has pretty bad documentation. be prepared to just go reading the nixpkgs source code if you want to go off the yellow brick road
<gchristensen> a lot of people, (including nixos users) like arch, and they're our friends -- we don't need to yuck on their yum or dig on their choices
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<noonien> i switched from ubuntu (after running it for 12 years) to nixos, because of the flexibility it gives me, and also INSANELY great stability
<noonien> i mean, nixos is more stable for me than ubuntu
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<Yaniel> fwiw about customized packages, I needed a patched openocd for risc-v tinkering so I just replaced the source URL: https://paste.rs/6Ic
<noonien> idk, most arch users, including irl friends, i've met, have an overinflated ego because of arch. imho, arch has made them think they understand than they think.
<noonien> but, that's offtopic
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<noonien> more than they do*
<Yaniel> (that's a fragment from my local configuration.nix)
<gchristensen> noonien: it is important that we as a community respect and be kind to people and users of other systems
<leibniz[m]> noonien: I do a lot of embedded dev. There is this bug on Xubuntu 18 that on connecting to USB CDC of target, if target resets, the whole OS freezes. I mean this is a freeze you have not seen probably. First the mouse, then cpu runs 100% then ran, then freaking WiFi gets disconnected. I have to raise the elelphant and do a hard reboot to get out of it.
<q3k[m]> Mic92: o/
<leibniz[m]> What's the status of "hardware interfacing" in NixOS?
<Yaniel> gchristensen: true, and tbf I often hit the arch wiki for nixos questions :P
<noonien> gchristensen: it's just an observation i've made, perhaps i'm wrong. and perhaps you are right, but I'm not of the opinion that disrespecting someone is the same as not respecting them.
<Yaniel> leibniz[m]: which level of the OS does that freeze happen on?
<gchristensen> Yaniel: yeah! their wiki is so good!
<Yaniel> because as mentioned, overriding packages (including the kernel) is easy so if it's fixed in a newer version or in git somewhere you can just run with that
<simpson> noonien: IDK, most people, including IRL people, have an overinflated sense of self. Period. No additional qualifiers. I suspect that it is tribalism, not an actual useful scientific insight, which colors your perception.
<leibniz[m]> Yaniel: I'm not sure. Couldn't pinpoint the reason of it. systemd log just prints that usb is not connected then nothing
<noonien> leibniz[m]: i do embedded as well, nix has helped a lot, especially with pinning dependencies
<leibniz[m]> noonien: You see, Zephyr, freeRTOS, and others have instructions and *support* only for Ubuntus
<noonien> simpson: agree
<simpson> leibniz[m]: Kernel bugs are likely to transfer between distros, but also tend to be transient depending on kernel version. NixOS mostly can help here by automating the tweak-build-reboot cycle of kernels. (Although, for fairness, I've not actually done much kernel development in the past few years of NixOS. I'm speculating a bit.)
<noonien> leibniz[m]: hehe, this is where your unix foo comes in handy. but in case that doesn't work, you can just fire up a docker with ubuntu
<tejing> leibniz[m]: at the end of the day, nixos is still linux, but if there's a patch or workaround to fix an issue like that in linux, then in nixos you can codify that you want to apply that fix in your configuration.nix and have it coexist nicely with updates and such
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<leibniz[m]> simpson: man, if I do nixos as my main setup, you'll be hearing more condescension from me than a veggie. :D
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<tejing> one of the things I actually love most about nixos is the ability to tweak stuff deep in the os without losing track of what you tweaked
<noonien> leibniz[m]: nix/nixos can be pretty frustrating, maybe more than any other distro, because it requires you to package everything you make, which i think is a good thing, because packaging for nix is usualy not that hard. after those frustrations are over, you'll be in builder's paradise
<tejing> I never used to mess with some stuff, not because I didn't know how, but because I knew I'd forget what I did and it would mysteriously revert later or something
<simpson> noonien: Or, rather, it makes folks realize that most upstream package authors don't actually package their released tarballs much. Packaging turns out to be an effortful thing.
<simpson> (But, that said, we can usually leverage most packaging tools, including language-specific packaging toolchains. Only the most impure systems are unable to be reused.)
<noonien> (i'm trying not yo overhype nixos for you, even though it is really hype, it's only great if you learn to work with it)
<Yaniel> yeah, getting started with nixos was... slow
<leibniz[m]> Yaniel: in your snippet, why you changed your openOCD in system level? You could just build and put the binary somewhere and add to path.
<noonien> leibniz[m]: better to get it running in a VM, than running nix on your existing distro, I suggest you start with that, and ask here if you have any questions that you can't get answers to
<Yaniel> leibniz[m]: and rebuild it manually every time the system updates
<Yaniel> sounds like fun
<Yaniel> so I chose to let the system take care of it instead
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<leibniz[m]> Yaniel: but now you are losing the upstream master openOCD.
<noonien> leibniz[m]: hehe, that's something nix/nixos/nixpkgs is awesome at, you can install packages system wide, or you can just get them in scope for a single shell with the same amount of effort
<Yaniel> I don't use upstream openOCD
<leibniz[m]> And why is there a need to rebuild after system update
<Yaniel> but if I had to, I could also do this in a shell.nix for per-project openOCD builds
<noonien> i just use openocd in my project shell.nix, I don't have it installed system-wide
<Yaniel> well one thing that occasionally changes is the location of the elf interpreter
<Yaniel> which... tends to break all binaries
<tejing> leibniz[m]: like I said, be prepared to do everything through nix. mixing non-nix-managed programs into nixos is generally a pointlessly difficult road to walk
<leibniz[m]> noonien: do you do embedded linux stuff or lower level MCU dev (RTOS, baremetal) stuff?
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<Yaniel> (since the elf interpreter is in the nix store like everything else, when it updates, its hash and therefore path changes)
<noonien> leibniz[m]: in most cases, you won't need to rebuild packages, they're build by the nixos continous integration system that runs on hydra at https://hydra.nixos.org/. nix only builds packages that don't have their build cached, this usually means custom software or packages with modified sources or dependencies.
<noonien> leibniz[m]: mostly lower level
<noonien> mostly baremetal
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<noonien> but i am installing nixos on a rpi and using that for my 3d printer, that counts as linux stuff! :D
<simpson> But, that said, e.g. I have a setup that rebuilds PulseAudio and some dependent packages every nixos-rebuild. It just happens; I don't have to think about it or do any post-rebuild steps.
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<simpson> Part of the power of Nix is that, once configured, Nix builds tend to not change much. They're not perfectly reproducible by default, but get quite close.
<leibniz[m]> do VPS providers provide nixos option?
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<leibniz[m]> Can I magically have the "server" snapshot of my webapp on my laptop or now I'm thinking in dreams?
<noonien> hehe, i think some do, but most probably don't. that doesn't mean you can't run nixos on them
<tejing> generally not standardly, but you can install nixos by infecting another distro, so you can generally make it work whatever the case
<Yaniel> leibniz[m]: as far as the snapshot is a matter of configuration, yes
<noonien> i've installed nixos on scaleway with a script from a user here. by booting into ubuntu first.
<Yaniel> you'll still have to ship over persistent data somehow (if the server stores any)
<noonien> it basically kexecs into an nixos that just formats the disks, and then installs nixos instead of what exesting distro was already installed. all live.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ali-abrar opened pull request #107976 → python-modules.weasyprint: 50 -> 52 → https://git.io/JLHQQ
<noonien> nixos only takes cares of packaging, not data. you can have a snapshot of all packages, but the data is outside the scop of nix/nixos
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<tpw_rules> you could package your data if you like though
<Yaniel> if it's reasonably static data
<tpw_rules> ah, yeah
<leibniz[m]> In Ubuntu, I can supposedly upgrade from 16 to 18 to 20 without reinstalling but people are saying that is a lie. I guess NixOS doesn't really have this problem? (or is it not perfect)
<noonien> nixos doesn't have this problem, no.
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<noonien> it's just another build. you can switch back to the old one if something doesn't work (which is not usually the case)
<noonien> there is no extra garbage left around from the old instalation.
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<tejing> leibnix[m]: there's no fundamental difference between an upgrade and a clean install with nixos. every new version is installed from scratch, it just happens to share most of the same store paths with previous versions. One nice side benefit of this is no dependency hell when you don't update for too long
<leibniz[m]> This is future imo
<leibniz[m]> Still, the server problem is irky. The infest solution is hacky.
<noonien> the only caveat that nixos can't properly deal it is with data from old software. for example, lets say nixos version A, and nixos v B uses different mysql versions, their storage format might differ, so upgrading might not work. nixos deals with this by specifying a state version in your configuration. for example `system.stateVersion = "20.03";`.
<noonien> this tells your nixos instantion to work with data from that specific version.
<dyazz> You can just use zfs snapshot for your server
<noonien> there's also another way of doing this: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Install_NixOS_on_Scaleway_X86_Virtual_Cloud_Server
<noonien> but i think it's basically the same thing
<noonien> infest is just a packaged up as a script
<tejing> if your server provider gives you a way to run an installer image you can just install normally. some do, like linode
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @corngood opened pull request #107977 → msbuild / omnisharp-roslyn updates → https://git.io/JLH7Z
<noonien> also, you can, for example, create EC2 images with nixpkgs just with nix. with any configuration you provide it.
<leibniz[m]> Thanks for all your helps guys. :D
<noonien> anytime
<tejing> well it's no surprise we like to talk about the wonders of nixos, we're hanging out in the #nixos channel after all :-)
<simpson> leibniz[m]: Isn't the Cloud itself hacky? After all, it's Somebody Else's Computer. In a better-defined environment, say an OCI-compatible container host, then Nix in containers is a reasonable-enough thing.
<simpson> TBH using Nix itself to *make* the container is even better, and it makes `FROM nixos/nix` look hacky!
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<noonien> ah! i run nix-containers on my server. basically configuring containers in my server configuration. it's nix all the way down!
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<leibniz[m]> noonien: https://repology.org/project/tio/versions I recommend this
<Yaniel> how is it different from picocom?
<leibniz[m]> Yaniel: https://tio.github.io/
<leibniz[m]> If you disconnect the target, it still listens for reconnection
<noonien> i just cat the dev, maybe socat
<noonien> can do reconnections with a `while true; do cat /dev/tty..; done`
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<noonien> i'll give tio a try though
<leibniz[m]> noonien: how do you set baudrate?
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<noonien> i usually prefer using the least amount of software i can
<noonien> leibniz[m]: the devices i work with usually have usb peripherals, so the serial connection is actually emulated over usb, this doesn't need the baudrate to be set.
<leibniz[m]> CDC profile
<noonien> yup
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<noonien> you do sometimes need to turn echo off, so the hardware doesn't get what data it sends, echoed back. but if you have a decent comms protocol setup, you don't need this. but, in that case, AFAIR, i use either minicom or socat
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<noonien> iirc, i just get pipe and tee minicom output to a file, so i can also have log of the comms, if they're text
<noonien> i don't even have minicom installed, i've made myself a `nix-run` binary that finds the binary i want executed and makes it available (without installing it system-wide, or putting you in a shell)
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<noonien> this is it's latest incarnation: http://ix.io/2EHh i've got to package it at some point
<noonien> also, there's already a nix-run in nixpkgs, but i prefer mine
<leibniz[m]> noonien: bare-metal in nix
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<noonien> i build my firmware images with nix, yes
<noonien> a simple example would be this repo: <https://github.com/cleverca22/thermostat_firmware>
<noonien> mine are a bit more convoluted since they build rust, and have more dependencies, but it's basically the same idea.
<leibniz[m]> noonien: I meant you do everything with pipes and unix utilities..I'm from binary plebs class
<noonien> hehe, no worries, to each his own
<noonien> i've just found that the least software i use, the happier i am
<leibniz[m]> On the topic of YT, the distrotube one is not very informative right?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @MetaDark opened pull request #107978 → gcc10: fix gcc10 MinGW build & use local copy of mcfgthread patches → https://git.io/JLH7h
<{^_^}> [rfcs] @Infinisil opened pull request #84 → Input-aware fetchers → https://git.io/JLH7j
<noonien> don't know, haven't watched them personally. i recommend the nixos manual, that should get you through installing in a VM, then, the nix and nixpkgs manuals, and then i usually have a clone of nixpkgs i grep a lot into. the manuals are very easy to read and understand.
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<noonien> there used to be a dropdown to chose between nix/nixos/nixpkgs manuals, but i can't find it anymore, now i just edit the url to go to the manual i want
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<leibniz[m]> noonien: 😍
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak merged pull request #107972 → librepo: enable zchunk support on darwin → https://git.io/JLHSi
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JLH5q
<hpfr> does the `fstrim` option (https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/nixos-20.09/nixos/modules/services/misc/fstrim.nix) just run on every mounted partition it can find? what happens if you have SSD's and HDD's on your machine
<noonien> people on youtube probably get their info from the manuals, or communities, better to get your info directly from the source
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<lukegb> hpfr: I think it just sets up a timer for upstream's fstrim.service
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<hpfr> lukegb: do you know if upstream detects HDD's? I don't see anything in the man page
<lukegb> But fstrim itself should only run if the device exports DISCARD, which might not be exclusive to SSDs
<hpfr> yeah I just saw that on the arch wiki
<hpfr> > The service executes fstrim(8) on all mounted filesystems on devices that support the discard operation.
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<noonien> hpfr: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_state_drive#Periodic_TRIM says "The util-linux package provides fstrim.service and fstrim.timer systemd unit files. Enabling the timer will activate the service weekly. The service executes fstrim(8) on all mounted filesystems on devices that support the discard operation. "
<viric> lsblk -D tells what devices support discard
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<hpfr> thanks viric, my hard drives show up with `lsblk -D`
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<lukegb> I don't know if it's the case but e.g. thin-provisioned VM disks even on HDDs could reasonably support discard, for instance
<viric> hpfr: well, I mean they shouldn't list as 0B
<hpfr> although both DISC-GRAN and DISC-MAX columns have values of 0B rather than the SSD's which are 512B and 2T
<hpfr> viric: you mean they should list as 0B?
<viric> If they appear with 0B in DISC-GRAN, they don't support discard
<hpfr> ah yeah arch wiki says that too lol
<hpfr> > And check the values of DISC-GRAN (discard granularity) and DISC-MAX (discard max bytes) columns. Non-zero values indicate TRIM support.
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<hpfr> thanks guys
<lukegb> hydra's on a roll today apparently
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl merged pull request #107971 → ocamlPackages.mirage: reintroduce dev output → https://git.io/JLHS6
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<oxalica> Hello, I'm trying home-manager with nix flakes and found it's used as nixosModule. Does it mean that I can only use `sudo nixos-rebuild` to update my home configurations and cannot `switch` at user-level anymore?
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<Lichtblick[m]> Join the vegan Dreamland
<simpson> Lichtblick[m]: Learn some capability theory: http://habitatchronicles.com/2017/05/what-are-capabilities/
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<Lichtblick[m]> Thx
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<Reventlov> hey
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus opened pull request #107979 → yarn2nix: Handle codeload.github.com tarballs → https://git.io/JLHFN
<Reventlov> I want to package something (a go package) that has some static files that I also need to ship; how should I do that ?
<Reventlov> Right now I just use a buildGoModule, but maybe there is something nice to copy such files
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<simpson> It looks like both preInstall and postInstall hooks are available for Go modules; I'm reading pkgs/development/go-modules/generic/default.nix
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos pushed to master « html-proofer: 3.18.2 -> 3.18.3 »: https://git.io/JLHbL
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<KarlJoad> Can someone point me to a simple default.nix or shell.nix for a small rust project I am working on? Right now, I am using the global rustc.
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<betaboon> does anyone have an expression for qspectrumanalyzer flying around ?
<Reventlov> betaboon: I tried a few days ago, I didn't go far enough :/
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @7c6f434c merged pull request #107625 → kernel: disable module signing → https://git.io/JLMnD
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @7c6f434c merged pull request #107916 → wineStaging: fix mingwSupport → https://git.io/JLHvH
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @lukegb opened pull request #107980 → Add Nix packages for Grafana plugins and allow declarative installation → https://git.io/JLHAm
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @talyz opened pull request #107981 → [20.09] webkitgtk: Add `/run/opengl-driver` to bubblewrap bind mounts → https://git.io/JLHAl
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @fabaff opened pull request #107982 → python3Packages.pyftdi: 0.51.2 -> 0.52.0 → https://git.io/JLHAP
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #107767 → duplicacy: 2.3.0 -> 2.7.2 → https://git.io/JLycW
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JLHxz
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #107552 → tmuxPlugins.dracula: unstable-2020-12-2 -> unstable-2020-12-28 → https://git.io/JL1GZ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JLHxV
<qyliss> Does anyone have working gtk icons in Sway?
<strikerlulu> Does anyone have working jitsi-meet server on nixos ?
<Lichtblick[m]> Yes
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<strikerlulu> :Lichtblick yes for ? me or :qyliss ?
<Lichtblick[m]> You
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<qyliss> solved my problem: had to install gnome3.adwaita-icon-theme
<Lichtblick[m]> Use Arc-Dark !!!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak merged pull request #107941 → ipfs-cluster: Remove go1.14 pinning. → https://git.io/JLHcA
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<strikerlulu> :Lichtblick: is the config available ? mine just crashes when second client joins and i see videobridge not available in browser's console log...
<strikerlulu> semicolon should be after or before name to mention in irc ?
<Lichtblick[m]> Hm strange
<Lichtblick[m]> For me it does work
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @github-actions[bot] pushed 49 commits to staging-next: https://git.io/JLHpT
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<strikerlulu> sorry colon
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<strikerlulu> :Lichtblick which all port you had to open ?
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<Lichtblick[m]> 4545
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<strikerlulu> only 4545 ? UDP ?
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<Lichtblick[m]> Tcp
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<strikerlulu> i don't see it in `ss -plnt | grep 4545`
<zeorin> Hey all. I'm busy with a fresh install of Nixos 20.09, just installed it on my laptop (I already have it running on my desktop). I managed to set up the disks and install using the (mostly) default configuration.nix that is generated for me. After getting that to boot and log in I wanted to set it up the same as my desktop.
<zeorin> But when I now try to rebuild Nixos, I get the following error:
<zeorin> error: executing 'git' : No such file or directory
<zeorin> error: program 'git' failed with exit code 1
<strikerlulu> nix-env -iA nixos.git ?
<zeorin> That wouldn't install it for root, though, just add it to my user profile
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #78532 → hubstaff: 1.5.2 -> 1.5.7 → https://git.io/JvqH1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JLHpw
<Lichtblick[m]> zeorin
<Lichtblick[m]> > https://discord.gg/zhUxS7W Stop using matrix.org server
<{^_^}> attempt to call something which is not a function but a string, at (string):460:1
<Lichtblick[m]> > https://discord.gg/zhUxS7W Stop using matrix.org server
<{^_^}> attempt to call something which is not a function but a string, at (string):460:1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #107362 → python3Packages.pytest-datafiles: Update homepage → https://git.io/JLHpo
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed commit from @Emiller88 to master « python3Packages.pytest-datafiles: Update homepage »: https://git.io/JLHpK
<zeorin> lolwut?
<strikerlulu> lol vegan dreamland ?
<Lichtblick[m]> Yes
<strikerlulu> what's that ?
<Lichtblick[m]> IT is a dreamland for vegans
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #107946 → python37Packages.zstandard: 0.14.1 -> 0.15.0 → https://git.io/JLH4Y
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « python37Packages.zstandard: 0.14.1 -> 0.15.0 »: https://git.io/JLHpD
<zeorin> While I do actually happen to be Vegan, I'm not sure how that's relevant
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<zeorin> back on topic: it seems that when I comment out a part of my config that calls builtins.fetchGit, nixos-rebuild works correctly
<strikerlulu> and what's wrong with matrix.org ?
<zeorin> So it seems that builtins.fetchGit depends on git, and if it's not already installed, it fails.
<zeorin> Seems like a bug to me
<Lichtblick[m]> > https://discord.gg/zhUxS7W Stop using matrix.org server
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<strikerlulu> hhhh
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<strikerlulu> who's this {^_^} ?
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<zeorin> I think {^_^} is a bot
<maurer> That's the bot - when you prefix something with >, it tries to interpret it as a nix expression
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<maurer> > let x = "hello"; y = "world; in x + y
<{^_^}> error: syntax error, unexpected $end, expecting '"', at (string):460:23
<maurer> > let x = "hello"; y = "world"; in x + y
<{^_^}> "helloworld"
<Lichtblick[m]> Fuck him in the Ass
<strikerlulu> >:l <nixpkgs>
<strikerlulu> > :l <nixpkgs>
<{^_^}> imported scope
<strikerlulu> > jitsi-videobridge.meta
<{^_^}> value is a path while a set was expected
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #107975 → home-assistant: 2020.12.1 -> 2020.12.2 → https://git.io/JLH9O
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<betaboon> Reventlov: hacked this together real quick: https://gist.github.com/betaboon/55297b8c448ecdbb69892672e35fd58e
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 merged pull request #107955 → python37Packages.pyclipper: 1.2.0 -> 1.2.1 → https://git.io/JLHut
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<chpatrick> hey, I want to package a python package that's built by cmake and builds something called `apriltag.cpython-37m-x86_64-linux-gnu.so`
<chpatrick> how can I integrate it with buildPythonPackage so that it gets installed correctly?
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<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra merged pull request #4397 → Cast variants fully for libc++10 → https://git.io/JLXP3
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer opened pull request #107987 → openblas: 0.3.12 -> 0.3.13 → https://git.io/JLQfW
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ttuegel merged pull request #107483 → qt512: 5.12.7 -> 5.12.9 → https://git.io/JLQfu
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<{^_^}> [nix] @corngood opened pull request #4411 → Fix insufficent attribute capacity in user profile → https://git.io/JLQJq
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<Reventlov> betaboon: nice
<betaboon> Reventlov: just tested it with a hackrf in hackrf_sweep mode. works fine
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<supersandro2000> I am going to test some new really cool modifications to nixpkgs-review. It will be more automated and informative. If you notice something really off which I did not catch please let me know asap.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @talyz merged pull request #107839 → emacs2nix: update to fix locale issues and a missing elpa package → https://git.io/JLS8y
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @talyz pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JLQJo
<supersandro2000> My goal is to automate to a point where I only need to look at failed logs and nothing else when running it.
<supersandro2000> if you have any idea for additional things please let me know
<energizer> which parts of ~/.config/Code/ are yall persisting?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer merged pull request #107013 → darwin: Big Sur-compatible stdenv bootstrap → https://git.io/JLGaE
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer merged pull request #107262 → libtapi: 1000.10.8 -> 1100.0.11 → https://git.io/JL29k
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<supersandro2000> energizer: settings.json at least
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @SuperSandro2000 opened pull request #107990 → gospider,pythonPackages.vcver,pythonPackages.pysvn,netease-music-tui: Small fixes → https://git.io/JLQJQ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @prusnak merged pull request #106754 → tinygo: 0.13.1 -> 0.16.0 → https://git.io/JIiSN
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<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra merged pull request #4411 → Fix insufficent attribute capacity in user profile → https://git.io/JLQJq
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer opened pull request #107991 → [staging-next] qt514.qtlocation: fix build → https://git.io/JLQUO
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nima2007 closed pull request #107943 → librepo: Build with zchunk support on darwin → https://git.io/JLHWF
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl opened pull request #107992 → ocamlPackages.merlin: 3.4.0 → 3.4.2 → https://git.io/JLQUa
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<tobiasBora> Hello, I'm using go in a nix-shell, but I'm not sure how I should install new applications. For example, I tried to install "air", with "go mod init" and "go get -u github.com/cosmtrek/air", but then the "air" executable cannot be found.
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<tobiasBora> and neither GOROOT nor GOPATH are defined
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<tobiasBora> ok, so looks like the file is installed in ~/go/bin/air... Will try to see if I can install it as a module
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jakeisnt opened pull request #107993 → mopidy-scrobbler: init at 2.0.1 #93400 → https://git.io/JLQTg
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<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @github-actions[bot] pushed commit from GitHub Actions to master « Update flake.lock and blogs.xml [ci skip] »: https://git.io/JLQT9
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<tobiasBora> cool, creating a derivation for it works!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mweinelt merged pull request #107984 → python3Packages.paho-mqtt: 1.5.0 -> 1.5.1 → https://git.io/JLQet
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mweinelt pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JLQTd
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @neonfuz opened pull request #107994 → koreader: license update aglp3 -> agpl3Only → https://git.io/JLQkK
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer opened pull request #107995 → Fix Darwin native stdenv → https://git.io/JLQk6
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<leibniz[m]> Some good discussion here
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<aveltras> has anyone tried to package a nextjs app or something similar ? seems to be some kind of nightmare
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @markuskowa merged pull request #107844 → vdr: 2.4.4 -> 2.4.6 → https://git.io/JLSBD
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<peelz> KarlJoad: did you figure it out?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #107968 → python3Packages.psutil: 5.7.3 -> 5.8.0 → https://git.io/JLHy5
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed commit from @fabaff to staging « python3Packages.psutil: 5.7.3 -> 5.8.0 »: https://git.io/JLQL8
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<peelz> KarlJoad: it looks like you can use different video devices through the metamode directive. You have to specify it like this: GPU-<GUID>.GPU-<ID>.<PORT>
<peelz> KarlJoad: you can find the GPU GUIDs/IDs in the nvidia-settings gui
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #107985 → xfce.xfce4-namebar-plugin: fix build → https://git.io/JLQvt
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed to staging-next « xfce.xfce4-namebar-plugin: fix build »: https://git.io/JLQLd
<Orbstheorem> How would I go about making a symlink from `/etc/resolv.conf` to `/run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf`?
<infinisil> Orbstheorem: environment.etc."resolv.conf".source = "/run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf"
<infinisil> probably
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<pie_> so if i have two binaries with two different glibc directories in their RPATH, can I do something with env vars to force one of them to take a certain search path?
<Orbstheorem> Hmm
<pie_> i dont want to patch or override
<Orbstheorem> It wasn't there before (even though I'm using resolvconf) and not it is
<Orbstheorem> /shrug
<pie_> LD_PRELOAD works but i have to individually list .so
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<pie_> wait...*tries LD_LIBRARY_PATH*
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<pie_> hm ok that worked.
<Lichtblick[m]> rm -rm /
<Lichtblick[m]> Or delete system32
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer opened pull request #107996 → azure-cli: 2.16.0 -> 2.17.0, bump azure python packages → https://git.io/JLQt1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @6AA4FD opened pull request #107997 → new-session-manager: init at 1.4.0 → https://git.io/JLQth
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq opened pull request #107998 → youtube-dl: 2020.12.29 -> 2020.12.31 → https://git.io/JLQqr
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<superbaloo> dummy question
<superbaloo> what "merges" all the udev .rules files
<samueldr> Lichtblick[m]: even as a joke, don't, someone that doesn't know could try to follow advice
<superbaloo> I see derivations put them in various $out/etc/udev/rules.d directories but I'm not sure what makes udev aware of it :x
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<samueldr> superbaloo: those will eventually find their way up to /etc/udev/rules.d
<samueldr> superbaloo: which udev knows how to handle multiple files in a .d directory
<superbaloo> ha from the services.udev.packages?
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<samueldr> in-between, services.udev.packages will handle that
<samueldr> yeah
<superbaloo> yeah alrgith that makes more sense
<superbaloo> thank you!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Infinisil merged pull request #104419 → shellhub-agent: Add service and package expressions → https://git.io/Jk28N
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Infinisil pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/JLQmr
<peelz> Any nvidia NixOS users here?
<notgne2[m]> yes
<infinisil> ,ask
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<{^_^}> Just ask your question. It's the best way to know if anybody can help. Or look at other ways of getting in touch with the Nix community here: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Get_In_Touch
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<peelz> notgne2[m]: mind sharing what your xserver config looks like? :P
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<notgne2[m]> from the NixOS config or the generated files
<peelz> from the nixos config
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<peelz> when I set up my nix config for my nvidia machine, I had to write the "metamodes" directive manually through the services.xserver.screenSection option.
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<peelz> I was just wondering how other nvidia users configured their xserver (given that there's no nvidia-specific options)
<notgne2[m]> I definitely did no such thing, a lot of my config is generated by other things but I've scraped this together, it's extremely short https://gist.github.com/notgne2/d4861aa4f2ccfc1656a26b6c6c84919d
<notgne2[m]> (I can't find where I enabled a display manager either, maybe nixos does it by default)
<dyazz> services.xserver.videoDrivers = ["nvidia"] should do the trick
<peelz> Oh right I forgot most people use DEs
<notgne2[m]> I've just managed my monitors ad-hoc with arandr, they're generally in the right place already, the last time I messed with modes was when I had a sceptre monitor that required hacking with modes to get rid of the blur
<Lichtblick[m]> NixOS is bloated
<notgne2[m]> I mean I'm using i3, I have it configured from home-manager
<peelz> ah
<peelz> notgne2[m]: what DM do you use and which monitor does it show up on?
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<notgne2[m]> I don't know which one I use (I can't find where it's enabled in my config and don't recognize the difference), it shows up on both monitors and wraps the mouse across them correctly
<peelz> interesting
<peelz> so what did you have to configure with arandr?
<notgne2[m]> about 30% of the time when I boot my machine my right monitor is turned off
<peelz> lol
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<peelz> my problem with the xserver module is that it generates Device and Screen sections for each driver in the videoDrivers list
<peelz> which is very... odd
<peelz> from my understanding, it will match any gpu device from the "nvidia" driver. So if you have two nvidia gpus, either one will be used (depending on the PCI enumeration order I'm guessing)
<Lichtblick[m]> Use a potato instead it cannot have such problems
<peelz> very helpful
<notgne2[m]> potato > nvidia tbh
<peelz> but yeah the problem with the xserver module isn't specific to nvidia
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<samueldr> notgne2[m]: don't engage with the obvious troll, please :)
<Lichtblick[m]> But he is right. You can even run your clock with a potato
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<Lichtblick[m]> It is God's holy energy source...it is climate friendly
<simpson> peelz: I'm not sure what would be preferable to do there. FWIW I don't think that it's possible to have DRI for both Mesa and non-Mesa drivers at once, which complicates a general-case solution.
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<simpson> Lichtblick[m]: Noodles, not potatoes. However, The Flying Spaghetti Monster's noodly energy is, like a boiled potato, from lightly salted water.
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<peelz> simpson: I don't own a machine with AMD/Intel graphics unfortunately... so I have no idea how a standard X mesa configuration looks like
<samueldr> simpson: please don't either
<notgne2[m]> I have a bunch of non-nvidia machines, but they all run wayland
<simpson> peelz: Usually it's all autodetected. Multi-monitor setups with multiple GPUs are one of the rare times when an explicit configuration is needed.
<simpson> samueldr: Please feel free to do the needful; I don't have permissions.
<peelz> well it can only autodetect so much
<peelz> what if you want a monitor to be rotated... or adjust its position relative to other monitors
<peelz> monitor ordering, etc
<peelz> how would you do that declaratively (through the xserver module)
<simpson> I have had some really bad experiences, so I usually have a script which calls xrandr with my desired parameters, and run that *after* logging in with my desired user. The display manager only has the one screen.
<peelz> afaik everything that can be done through the xrandr binary can be done through the X config :p
<simpson> I probably would go through what you're going through right now, if I had a setup where I wanted everything permanently multi-monitor.
<simpson> Ugh. Sorry. Never mind.
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<peelz> uh what lol
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @andir opened pull request #107999 → lib/systems/platforms: treat missing cpu version as generic pcBase → https://git.io/JLQOP
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<notgne2[m]> as stupid as it might sound I generally prefer xrandr scripts over xorg configs because (in my experience) xorg is extremely fragile and I'd rather be left with 1 monitor or w/e than a broken system when I inevitably fuck something up
<Lichtblick[m]> Rusty1 Mashallah
<peelz> notgne2[m]: right... but if the Xorg config complexity is handled through the xserver module, it's a lot less likely that the user will screw up :)
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<peelz> the nixos xserver configuration in its current state is quite broken
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<Lichtblick[m]> Don't use any graphics. My PC does only Morse Code
<peelz> although it would be quite complicated to devise a driver-agnostic xserver module
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<notgne2[m]> well if any system can do it, it would be NixOS
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<peelz> what is "it"?
<notgne2[m]> creating higher abstractions to create agnosticism for underlying modules/drivers
<notgne2[m]> (same goes for service-manager agnosticism but that suggestion can sometimes start a fight)
<peelz> ah right
<peelz> I feel like I'm opening a can of worms here :P
<Lichtblick[m]> Proteins
<Lichtblick[m]> Yummy
<peelz> notgne2[m]: do you have a multi-gpu amd machine?
<samueldr> peelz: it might also be a situation where no one got enought round tuits together to fix what works just enough that it's not that much of an issue :)
<notgne2[m]> I've never done a multi-gpu setup besides when I had an AMD card and used my Nvidia for processing and VM passthrough exclusively
<notgne2[m]> oh wait that's not true
<notgne2[m]> I had 2 quadro cards once
<notgne2[m]> I honestly have no memory of how I made that work, I just remember it didn't work very well at all
<peelz> lol
<peelz> samueldr: perhaps... although after seeing how powerful nix is, it makes me wish the xserver module was just a little more flexible :P
<samueldr> understandable
<samueldr> it might also require a bit more round tuits than expected, if it is desired to not break existing setups
<peelz> yeah that's what I'm thinking
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @asm-volatile opened pull request #108000 → cudatoolkit: 11.0 -> 11.1.1 → https://git.io/JLQ3w
<peelz> that might be a hard one to pull off
<peelz> there's just so many attributes that would have to be deprecated
<peelz> to a point where it might just be better to make a separate module and deprecate the old one (eesh!)
<noneucat> might be a good way to properly integrate the wayland stuff into display-manager too if it was worked on in a separate module
<peelz> that's something I haven't looked into... how do you configure display managers to speak wayland under NixOS?
<peelz> or is it not supported at all?
<Lichtblick[m]> No
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nh2 merged pull request #107812 → [20.09] openssh: fix hpn sha256 → https://git.io/JLSLv
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