<Henson>
jneplokh: ok, now do the same thing but on your internet device, and see if the ping packets are going out and coming back from 1.1.1.1. Maybe something like "tcpdump -ni feh0 icmp" where feh0 is your internet device. That command will only show the ICMP ping traffic.
<Henson>
jneplokh: if your NAT is working properly, then your client traffic should be NATed and be seen going out on your server's internet device.
<jneplokh>
Henson: Sorry for the noob questions, but what do you mean "internet device," as in, what device should I run that from?
<Henson>
jneplokh: well, your server has several network interfaces. "wg0" is your wireguard interface, "lo" is your loopback interface. If your server is connected to the Internet via an ethernet interface, you should have one of those too, although the name is hard for me to predict.
<Henson>
jneplokh: if you type "ip a" it'll list all of your interfaces and their IP addresses.
<robodojo>
i installed lutris but when i run one of my games with it there's an error saying incompatible wine version detected "the wine build you selected does not support Esync. switch to an esync-compatible version such as wine-tkg" but i didn't install any wine, just lutris. should i install the wine pkg and if so, which one?
<Henson>
jneplokh: if you type "ip route" the "default" route will say "dev ????" where "????" will be the name of your Internet connected interface.
<jneplokh>
Henson: Ah ok, for me it is `ens3`
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<Henson>
jneplokh: ok, so the "feh0 "in the tcpdump command above should be "ens3"
<Henson>
jneplokh: ok, but you don't see pings coming back, right? ICMP echo replys?
<jneplokh>
Nope
<jneplokh>
Henson: Only requests
<Henson>
jneplokh: ok, here's the problem. Your server isn't NATing properly. Those ICMP ping requests should be going out with the IP address of your ens3 interface, not your client interface. Your system is trying to route them, but it shouldn't be routing, it should be NATing. Since they're coming from one of the rfc private subnets, the routing infrastructure in your ISP is just dropping them.
<Henson>
jneplokh: here's my guess. You should be specifying "ens3" instead of "eth0" in the networking.nat.externalInterface line in that wiki article. The same goes for those "iptables" line in the postSetup and postShutdown sections. Change all instances of "eth0" in your wireguard config for "ens3".
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<jneplokh>
Henson: That fixed it! Next time I set something like this up, I'll check what the interface is. Thank you so much for the help and troubleshooting along the way :)
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<sasyctu[m]>
Has anyone worked with Clojure in nix? I've been looking around and it looks like some try, and I've been working with it just fine for the most part, allowing tools.deps to do its thing, but one project that I'm working on requires me to link against X11 and I haven't figured out how to allow them to link.
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[nixpkgs] @aanderse opened pull request #92758 → perlPackages.CiscoIPPhone: init at 0.05 → https://git.io/JJq5u
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<gchristensen>
aanderse: looks like you're having a good time.....
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<aanderse>
HA HA HA HA YOU'RE SO FUNNY gchristensen T_T
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[nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « gnome3.dconf-editor: 3.36.2 -> 3.36.4 »: https://git.io/JJqdx
<robodojo>
i installed lutris but when i run one of my games with it there's an error saying incompatible wine version detected "the wine build you selected does not support Esync. switch to an esync-compatible version such as wine-tkg" but i didn't install any wine, just lutris. should i install the wine pkg and if so, which one?
<iqubic>
I think lutris pulls wine as a dependency.
<robodojo>
what can i do to fix the problem then?
<iqubic>
No clue.
<Henson>
robodojo: esync or tkg might be a special build of wine. Or perhaps it's just a compile time option that can be switched on
<iqubic>
Which game are you trying to run?
<robodojo>
i'll search for a switch
<robodojo>
guild wars 2 :>
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<Henson>
robodojo: it looks like it's a special build of Wine. Nix's Wine package includes a whole bunch of different options that could be altered, but none of them appear to be related to tkg or esync.
<robodojo>
dang so i can't play the 1 game i play?
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<daf94>
Thought I would try using nix to help build a python application, but I'm having some difficulty writing the nix file. This is a very simple, single-file pygame script. Can anyone help?
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<daf94>
I'm using this file for the nix expressions: https://hastebin.com/dikojemoma.js. What I want to do is build an environment which has all the non-python dependencies, and then use pipenv to do the rest.
<robodojo>
what's weird is i got guildwars 2 running on pop!_OS out of the box
<daf94>
I guess I'll know it's working if `pipenv install pygame` works inside of the nix-shell
<daf94>
`sdl-config` is provided by the `dev` output of `SDL`, and it isn't showing up in the PATH. So, pygame fails to install. That's the first problem.
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<robodojo>
is "sound.enable = true;" enough to get audio working or do i need to enable pulseaudio too?
<cole-h>
sound.enable only uses ALSA I believe.
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<robodojo>
ya but what's that mean?
<robodojo>
im new to audio
<cole-h>
You probably wanted to enable PA then.
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<jackdk>
robodojo: ALSA stands for "advanced linux sound architecture" and was the New Thing that took over from the Old Thing, which I think was called OSS? AIUI, all talking to sound hardware is done with ALSA, and PA (PulseAudio) sits between ALSA and applications these days, to do mixing, per-program volume controls, etc
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<jackdk>
robodojo: oh, sorry, didn't scroll back far enough
<cole-h>
(PA is a lot nicer to deal with, FWIW, which is why I recommend it over plain ALSA, especially for a newbie)
<jackdk>
I set hardware.pulseaudio.enable = true; in my nixos options too
<robodojo>
ok ty!
<jackdk>
given how little I've had to think about audio on my machine, I think you're right cole-h
<robodojo>
using lutris to run a game that downloads its own data, how can i get that data to not be wiped every time i nixos-rebuild switch? seems like it wiped it
<robodojo>
oh nvm the game adjusted its download bar sorry
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<robodojo>
ok i got guild wars 2 running
<mac10688>
hi all. I'm trying to get haskell ide engine with coc working on nixos. However, I'm having problems. When I open a .hs file a message shows [coc.nvim] "can't load .so/.DLL for :/nix/store/<guid>ghc-8.6.5./lib/ghc-8.6.5/ghc-prim-0.5.3/libHSghc-prim-0.5.3-ghc8.6.5.so
<mac10688>
Anyone know what I can do to fix this?
<mac10688>
it also says [coc.nvim] "panic! (the 'impossible' happened)\n (GHC version 8.6.5 for x86_64-unknown-linux): Dynamic linker not initialised. Please report this as a GHC bug
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<yusuke>
Hi I am new to this OS. I have previously installed OS with bare minimum software. I thought I am done with nixOS, but my mind keeps on telling that OS is cool you should learn. Can anyone layout steps to master nixos?
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<KarlJoad>
Is there a way to modify the X11 binary's log flag? I want to see its output. Right now, it's redirected to /dev/null
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<kmplsv>
cole-h: irony! that's the one i was just flirting around with, but it feels a bit too...."curly" for me. i'm trying out the terminal variations of it now.
<cole-h>
You can almost completely customize it :^)
<cole-h>
(Check out my second link, which shows my customizations)
<cole-h>
The README also has a few graphics with the variant characters
<kmplsv>
also, i'm using KiTTY (PuTTY variant).
<kmplsv>
that isn't really relevant i suppose.
<kmplsv>
i do love this font though. i'll look into it further. i think there are several variations that i haven't tried yet.
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<kmplsv>
trying to find that comfortable space between 10pt and 11pt has always been a PITA to me.
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<kmplsv>
cole-h: i'll see if i can somehow get this going on the windows box i'm on.
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[nixos-homepage] @github-actions[bot] pushed commit from GitHub Actions to master « Update flake.lock and blogs.xml [ci skip] »: https://git.io/JJqhv
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<patagonicus>
I'm trying to understand how ccache is being built in Nix. It's using cmake, but if I `nix-shell <nixpkgs> -A ccache` and do unpackPhase followed by configurePhase and buildPhase the last two complain that there's no configure script and no Makefile - is there a phase I'm missing?
<patagonicus>
https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#ssec-setup-hooks mentions a cmake hook, but I haven't figured out how those are called. The default.nix for ccache seems simple (minus the wrapper part for using ccache after installation), but I'm clearly missing something.
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<samueldr>
patagonicus: use `runHook` to run phases
<samueldr>
oops, runPhase
<patagonicus>
samueldr: How/where can I see what a specific package would run? `set` in the nix shell gives me things like buildPhase and runHook, but I don't see the definitions of the hooks - or does that mean that there's no hooks?
<samueldr>
hmm, or is it?
<patagonicus>
runPhase doesn't exist, runHook does
<samueldr>
it's complicated
<samueldr>
yeah
<samueldr>
runPhase was a proposal
<samueldr>
basically, hooks default to an implementation that is an alias, but can be overriden by a variable
<samueldr>
so if you just run `configurePhase` you end up running the default one
<samueldr>
and not the one that has been overriden
<patagonicus>
Ok, those vars are empty for ccache, so at least it's running the default.
<patagonicus>
All I really want to figure out is why it's running asciidoc even though I removed that from nativeBuildInputs - upstream says it's optional for building.
<patagonicus>
Weirdly the nix-shell doesn't even have cmake in its PATH.
<patagonicus>
Ah. I think autoreconfPhase was the missing bit.
<etu>
eyJhb: And there's a right prompt as well in that same folder
<eyJhb>
So you have nothing special regarding git, etc.?
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<eyJhb>
Or, I see that in right prompt. Wth is a right prompt?
<etu>
It's a prompt on the right side of the terminal.
<patagonicus>
Meh. I think the ccache devs have a different definition of "optional" than I do. ccache itself builds without asciidoc, but make install just breaks because it can't build the man page.
<eyJhb>
:( That does not sound nice
<eyJhb>
Ohh like that
<eyJhb>
Nvm.
<eyJhb>
I thought like Arabic, where either you had left or right.
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<eyJhb>
etu: have you changed the typing color? 99% of the colors used I can't see in my term
<andrewrk>
how can I override the gcc version with a nix-shell?
<andrewrk>
it's giving me 9.2.0 but I want an older version
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<andrewrk>
with `nix-shell -p gcc6` for example, I don't even have gcc6 in my PATH
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<siraben>
Running docker in nixos, sudo docker run -it --rm --privileged --pid=host justincormack/nsenter1 , I don't seem to have anything other than sh in my /bin folder
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<siraben>
I have virtualisation.docker.enable = true; in my nixos-config
<siraben>
I'll try adding docker to my extraGroups.
<eyJhb>
Anybody experienced fish having very slow start times? 305 milis vs 10 milis for bash
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<adisbladis>
bqv: I don't know, I haven't done any android development for a long time.
<arahael1>
I've been looking at how to remote into my headless nixos system lately, using xrdp. Works well enough, however the problem is that i don't like iceWM. How can I change this?
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<arahael1>
I've tried putting teh appropriate line into /etc/nixos/configuration.nix (ie, by editing the ' services.xrdp.defaultWindowManager = "${pkgs.icewm}/bin/icewm";' line so that it doesn't refer to icewm), but it does not appear to have any effect when I do the nixos-rebuild switch.
<patagonicus>
Is it possible to use Nix to generate files outside of the store? Specifically I'd like to generate full system images that use LUKS for /. I guess I'd also need a way of handing in a keyfile from outside the store. (And I know that that's a very impure thing to do, but I know that Nix can do the rest, so it would just be really nice to have a
<patagonicus>
single command to get an image I can put on an SD card and be done with it :) )
<patagonicus>
Hmm. I guess I can generate a script in the nix store which will then create the image from things in the store and external inputs. That's two commands (nix-build + running the script), but doesn't involve doing weird things with nix.
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<jakobrs>
How do I prevent a service from being started automatically at boot?
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<makefu>
patagonicus: the pattern: $(nix-build my.nix) can be seen quite often and is totally valid for doing impure stuff
<patagonicus>
makefu: Sure. Doesn't work my shell (fish), though. ;)
<patagonicus>
Doesn't really matter, not sure why I was so focused on doing it just with nix.
<makefu>
i am sure in fish there is something similar
<makefu>
because doing stuff in nix is reproducible
<jakobrs>
The service's wantedBy is already empty.
<arahael1>
I lost internet. :( I wanted to know why I couldn't upate the services.xrdp.defaultWindowManager property in my nixos configuration file, any pointers?
<turion>
When I have several haskell derivations, can I somehow join their drv.env to one big env?
<turion>
arahael1: What do you mean you couldn't update it?
<turion>
You changed it, but after restart you didn't get the new window manager?
<arahael1>
turion: I didn't *reboot*, I restarted the service, and yeah - didn't get the new WM.
<turion>
arahael1: And what happens when you reboot?
<patagonicus>
makefu: yeah, of course: `eval (nix-build my.nix)` It doesn't let you use command substitution for the command itself, just for arguments.
<arahael1>
turion: It's a bit of a pain to reboot - I run DNS and everything on this as well.
<turion>
So usually nixos-rebuild switch starts the new services and stops outdated services. Why did you need to manually restart it?
<arahael1>
turion: paranoia. It was clearly not applying the setting.
<arahael1>
turion: I noticed that either way, it _does_ kick the rdp clients off, so the service is at the least resetting the connection.
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<arahael1>
turion: However... Curiously... And this is probably a clue... The actual session seems to persist.
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<arahael1>
Thanks for the help. :)
<arahael1>
(You helped troubleshoot, at least)
<turion>
O:-)
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<arahael1>
I've been playing with xrdp and microsoft rdp client. On a local LAN, it works quite surprisingly well *if* you disable hardware acceleration and smooth scrolling wherever applicable (eg, especially in firefox)
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<sphalerite>
"error: stack overflow (possible infinite recursion)" anyone have any smart hints on how to debug this? I've tried passing -vvvvvvvv to nix-build (which was nontrivial since I had to get the command from out of nixops) and that hasn't been particularly helpful
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<symphorien>
reactormonk: is valgrind a dependency of the final executable, in $out/bin/foo ? If so, valgrind should be a buildInput, not a navitiveBuildInput
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<turion>
wat there is a shellFor function in standard nixpkgs haskell?
<turion>
I've never seen this used or talked about or documented anywhere
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nix#2147 (by xzfc, 2 years ago, open): builtins.match regression: stack overflow on large strings
<bqv>
when i run my wayland compositor, pulseaudio stops working
<bqv>
if it's already running, it'll stop playing anything until i stop wayland
<bqv>
if i start it during, it finds no cards
<bqv>
does anyone know why this might be?
<dutchie>
i'm trying to test a possible bug fix i have to a python package. how can i do something like `nix run -f . 'python3.withPackages (p: [p.thePackageIFixed])'`?
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<Ke>
reactormonk: let me guess, others are things like interpreters and compilers used at build time and others are things that you link against to run on the target arch
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<Ke>
this is relevant when you are crosscompiling for arch that is not the same as build host
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<Ke>
looking at description "Since these packages are able to be run at build-time, they are added to the PATH, as described above."
<reactormonk>
Yeah, the package is on PATH in the shell, but the include files aren't :-(
<Ke>
so this means nativeBuildInputs are the same platform as the one building the derivation
<reactormonk>
Yup, that's the case. Which one to use so that the include files are around? I tried buildInputs
<bqv>
adisbladis: right, so it was dbus that did the trick
<bqv>
i couldn't tell which fixed it
<bqv>
gotta say, it feels weird as heck to be in wayland
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<symphorien>
reactormonk: it does matter when cross compiling, but also for non-cross haskell python go and rust
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[nixpkgs] @jshholland opened pull request #92785 → python3Packages.xarray: add setuptools to propagatedBuildInputs → https://git.io/JJmmM
<symphorien>
it's possible to add valgrind both on buildInputs and nativeBuildInputs if you both need the executable at build time and the library at run time
<slabity>
gchristensen: Do you need to go through the whole `dbus-launch --exit-with-session /path/to/sway` to get that integration working though?
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<adisbladis>
Iirc you shouldn't use dbus-launch with sway
<bqv>
the idea of a tiling window manager depending on systemd makes me want to crawl up the walls. it was annoying to debug, but i'm glad swc does it this way
<gchristensen>
right, you shouldn't
<adisbladis>
Btw, the whole `dbus-launch --exit-with-session` sets up dbus in an incorrect way
<adisbladis>
Try running `busctl --user status org.freedesktop.systemd1`
<slabity>
Well unfortunatley I'm on my nvidia system so I can't see what would be wrong :/
<bqv>
uh i get connection refused :D
<adisbladis>
bqv: Yeah, exactly.
<slabity>
Impressive...
<bqv>
so i'm not Properly Integrated with systemd? or what??
<slabity>
bqv: You're just doing `exec sway`, correct?
<bqv>
no, i'm doing dbus-launch --exit-with-session swc-launch -- velox
<gchristensen>
I run `exec systemd-run --user --scope --setenv WLR_DRM_NO_MODIFIERS=1 sway -c /etc/sway/config -d > sway.log 2>&1` but I'm not sure anything between `exec` and `sway` is needed
<bqv>
gchristensen: if it wasn't obvious from above, i'm not using sway
<gchristensen>
ah
<gchristensen>
nevermind :)
<bqv>
:p
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<adisbladis>
My 2 cents: We need to figure out display managers + wayland
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<adisbladis>
And then we can just say anything not using a display manager is unsupported
<adisbladis>
I keep seeing this `dbus-launch` anti-pattern
<gchristensen>
same
<adisbladis>
With subtle issues as the effect
<gchristensen>
and again, the exec problem
<slabity>
adisbladis: What, you don't like people running `bash exec systemd-run dbus-launch --exit-with-session swc-launch`?
<adisbladis>
^_^
<adisbladis>
Every few weeks I see someone complaining about issues stemming from this
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<bqv>
what issues, though?
<adisbladis>
pulseaudio, systemd user sessions, podman (on cgroupsv2) etc etc
<slabity>
And that's probably why I'm not going to be switching from lightdm's autologin for a long time :P
<slabity>
Regardless if I use zero of its features
<bqv>
i recall i went many years using dbus-launch with no problems
<adisbladis>
It may have happened to work for you
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[nixpkgs] @klntsky opened pull request #92787 → create_ap: init at 0.4.6 → https://git.io/JJmY5
<typetetris>
How can I place stuff in `/var/lib` in nixos? Only through runtime stuff like systemd-units? Or somehow from the nix expressions in `/etc/nixos/configuration.nix`?
<bqv>
if the alternative is installing a display manager even if i don't need or want one, i'm not happy with that :/
<adisbladis>
bqv: We don't support X without a display manager
<adisbladis>
I think we should do the same for wayland
<bqv>
oh sure, support whatever you like, but i don't think it's "less correct" to not have a display manager
<slabity>
adisbladis: Maybe one of the 'display managers' we support could be a simple systemd service that logs you in?
<slabity>
Though that might be a bit annoying to support
<bqv>
i only turned sddm on cause nix was sharting the bed without it, and even then i used autologin so it'd just go away
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<adisbladis>
bqv: It is unless your wayland compositor has logind integration
<adisbladis>
You're breaking a bunch of software using systemd
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<bqv>
so in the context of a super lightweight compositor like this, the only systemd-compatible way of launching is via gdm or something?
<gchristensen>
not exactly, it is just trickier
<gchristensen>
and the nice thing about gdm is gdm does the right thing, as opposed to the myth and lore around the correct incantation to start your compositor
<adisbladis>
The thing is, we already do the right thing for display managers
<bqv>
(also, i'm actually slightly vindictively pleased to be breaking systemd things, thanks to my ongoing prejudice against it)
<slabity>
bqv: You could probably write a systemd service to start your compositor properly. But that's probably a bit more difficult than it sounds
<bqv>
i'm open to the idea, since it's already a systemd service
<bqv>
i did search, actually, because i felt it was something like logind breaking pulse, but dbus-launch was a sufficient fix for now
<bqv>
couldn't find anything on how to actually create a login session without using the systemd api
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<bqv>
(loginctl only deals with existing sessions)
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<eyJhb>
But what is, a display manager really bqv ? ;)
<eyJhb>
Just kidding.
<eyJhb>
Anything light that does not force me to use lightdm etc. would be nice. I also just have it autologin
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<reactormonk>
How can I poke a derivation for all its flags passed to the ./configure script?
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<bqv>
sddm is pleasant. it's around as lightweight as slim, and has autologin too
<slabity>
Is lightdm really that heavy when you just have autologin and no backend?
<bqv>
i don't quite know what it looks like because i've never actually used it without autologin
<eyJhb>
Is it still maintained?
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<eyJhb>
slabity: I just want "none" :p
<slabity>
SLiM is not maintained (except technically slim-ng). sddm is still going strong
<bqv>
i don't buy into the space-is-cheap mentality. if i can trim fat, i will
<slabity>
Create a `services.displayManager.systemd` option and make youre own systemd-service display-manager thing
<AlpineLlama>
hey all! I just installed nixos, though I have wifi when working with the livecd, it no longer works in the final install. On gentoo I had to enable the ath9k kernel module. Just not sure how to do that here. Can someone point me in the right direction?
<AlpineLlama>
The manual also says not to modify the hardware-configuration.nix so I'm not too sure where to put it
<slabity>
AlpineLlama: It's okay to modify hardware-configuration.nix. And that's where you can put the kernel modules you need
<typetetris>
AlpineLlama: Are you using networkmanager?
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<reactormonk>
Any chance to also get a hold of the build files of a derivation?
<AlpineLlama>
haven't enabled it yet. for the moment I just had wpa_supplicant
<slabity>
The file is auto-generated, but as long as you don't run the command to regenerate the config you can modify it without any issues
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<AlpineLlama>
actually that could have been the problem instead....
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<AlpineLlama>
@slabity: good to know thanks
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[cabal2nix] @peti pushed to master « Move warning flags into a cabal.project file. »: https://git.io/JJm3Y
<bqv>
269025043/1
<reactormonk>
> checking if AT_HWCAP contains the altivec indicator... ./configure: line 8053: which: command not found
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error: syntax error, unexpected IF, expecting ')', at (string):318:10
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[nixpkgs] @mupdt opened pull request #92790 → python3Packages.pytimeparse: use checkInputs → https://git.io/JJm3n
<mvnetbiz_>
reactormonk, nix-build --keep-failed
<reactormonk>
mvnetbiz_, it did succeed though
<mvnetbiz_>
Oh what do you mean by build files?
<reactormonk>
I want to look at a generated Makefile, debugging why valgrind can't find a few files
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<clever>
reactormonk: run `unpackPhase ; cd $sourceRoot ; configurePhase` inside a `nix-shell '<nixpkgs>' -A valgrind`
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<mvnetbiz_>
I think instead of -A valgrind, you want the package that you are building though
<mvnetbiz_>
clever, is there a way to do the whole build normally but keep the tmp dir or wherever it builds?
<mvnetbiz_>
I am getting confused about buildInputs and propagatedBuildInputs, if a dependency is in both lists, that is redundant right?
<reactormonk>
valgrind is a bit longer of an expression, so I tried nix-shell -A '(import ./. {}).valgrind', but that doesn't parse
<clever>
mvnetbiz_: that makes the installPhase fail fatally, and then keeps the result of the failure
<clever>
reactormonk: you want -E not -A
<mvnetbiz_>
smart
<clever>
reactormonk: you can also `nix-shell -A valgrind`, it will import . by default
<AlpineLlama>
@slabity: yeah I just didn't enable network manager and expected it to be there for some reason... thanks for the help all good now
<reactormonk>
clever, nice, thanks!
<adisbladis>
Is there a good way to combine multiple derivations into a single one? I want all build inputs, be it regular, native or propagated ones in a single derivation. Of course I could naively just concatenate the lists but this feels less than ideal.
<adisbladis>
bqv: I think you're misunderstanding me
<bqv>
oh, you mean to include transitive deps
<adisbladis>
I want basically `drv1 // drv2 // drv3`
<clever>
adisbladis: why do you want the deps from several?
<clever>
adisbladis: propagatedBuildInputs would also do that automatically
<adisbladis>
clever: I'm making a custom wrapper where I need to build some things in the wrapper
<mvnetbiz_>
say I have python program called top which depends on middle which depends on bottom. when I do nix-shell -p 'python3.withPackages (ps: with ps; [ top ])' --run top, I get an error inside of middle which cant find the module bottom, why would that be?
<mvnetbiz_>
"bottom" is inside the propagatedBuildInputs of "middle". Is that not enough?
<simpson>
Maybe. What happens if you add `bottom` to your `withPackages` listing? Does the top command then work?
<mvnetbiz_>
simpson, it works. I am guessing it would work if I also add "bottom" to propagatedBuildInputs of "top" but shouldn't that not be needed
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<FRidh>
adisbladis: just taking the lists will miss the inputs that are references in other variables such as phases. Unfortunately there isn't any method for getting all inputs. Would be a real nice nix builtin to have.
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<FRidh>
hackish, but I think you can use foo.drvPath, and import that
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[nixops] @adisbladis merged pull request #1366 → Use flake check for the documentation linting test → https://git.io/Jf98I
<slabity>
manveru: Interface names nowadays are dependent on the bus/port/whatever and should be pretty consistent as long as they don't change locations in hardware
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[nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from @mupdt to master « python3Packages.pytimeparse: use checkInputs »: https://git.io/JJmZ6
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<zangi>
how do I set environment variables in nix language?
<adisbladis>
zangi: Derivation attributes become environment variables
<turion>
Fturion
<turion>
whoops, disregard that line
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<zangi>
adisbladis: like everything inside it? including lowercase environment variables such as `stdenv.mkDerivation { foo_bar = "baz"; }`?
<clever>
zangi: yes
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[nix] @edolstra pushed to master « LocalStore::addToStore(srcPath): Handle the flat case »: https://git.io/JJmnv
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<bbigras>
can `--max-jobs 0` be used to make sure nothing is built locally and that everything is fetched from the cache? or that's only for when using remote builders?
<bbigras>
I want to prevent stuff building on my phone to prevent draining the battery.
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<regnat>
bbigras: It does yes
<regnat>
But it can break things as certain derivations are tagged to not be fetched from the remote cache
<bbigras>
thanks. I was also wondering if "evaluating" my configuration.nix would be possible with `--max-jobs 0` or it needs to be built
<bbigras>
* thanks. I was also wondering if "evaluating" my configuration.nix would be possible with `--max-jobs 0` or if it needs to be built
<clever>
bbigras: if your not using IFD, you can just use nix-instantiate or `nixos-rebuild --dry-run` to eval it
<bbigras>
thanks. I'll try
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<pinion[m]>
<bqv "slabity: sure but what do i put "> Look at the Nix wiki page on Sway, there is an example for Sway... I have used it without problems
<immae>
Hello there, did something change in the way cargoSha256 is computed? When I build a package in 19.09 or 20.03 (latest) it works fine, but when I run it in unstable (latest) it complains that the sha is invalid
<immae>
Sorry, I was not clear. It complains about a mismatch in cargoSha256
<manveru>
yeah
<immae>
But exact same derivation built with 20.03 works fine
<manveru>
the problem is the way that those rust packages are built... they run `cargo install` in a fixed-output-derivation i think
<manveru>
so if cargo behavior isn't 100% deterministic, the hash changes
<immae>
it looks like somehting like that yes (I’m not used to rust but the logs seems to confirm what you say)
<manveru>
if the hydra cache has the right hash already, your nix will download it instead
<immae>
it won’t :)
<immae>
it’s a private package
<pinion[m]>
I modified it a bit so the wrapper script waits on the service's PID before exiting (instead of using exec) using tail, I exec the modified script in my .bash_profile if logging in on tty1 only. Similar experience to a desktop manager without the overhead
<manveru>
i had the same issue with go, where the hash would change for no good reason :(
<immae>
ok
<immae>
I guess I’ll live with it then
<manveru>
but unless you switch to something like crate2nix that does things more deterministically, it's gonna be hard to pin cargo down enough
<manveru>
or naersk maybe
<immae>
Hmm
<manveru>
clever would probably know more about that :)
<pinion[m]>
@bqv I'll probably make a wiki edit eventually with my script changes, but they aren't too hard to derive from what's on there
<immae>
It’s not clear to me manveru, I have aderivation like that: https://tools.immae.eu/paste/4kba/ and the cagoHash is different if <nixpkgs> targets a different channel, it has nothing to do with crate2nix or anything that comes before no?
<clever>
immae: the problem is that the cargoSha256 is just the hash of whatever `cargo fetch` created, so it depends on which version of cargo you used
<immae>
oh
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<immae>
Ok I see
<manveru>
it will still depend on the rust/cargo version
<manveru>
and possibly other things, i'm not terribly familiar with the build process
<immae>
yes, I’m starting to grasp the issue
<immae>
Thanks clever and manveru
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[nixpkgs] @edibopp opened pull request #92792 → oneshot: init at 1.0.1 → https://git.io/JJmcn
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<wnklmnn>
Hi, I'm curently having issues with my nixos installation. If i try to install rustup via "nix-env -iA nixos.rustup" I get error regarding invalid memory references. I made a gist with the build logs. https://gist.github.com/wnklmnn/9b77757043ab830c5a90285154b37be9 Unfortunatly i have no idea where the issue may be.
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<wnklmnn>
The logs come from builds one after the other. I did not run nix-collect-garbage or change anything else. Just ran "nix-env -iA nixos.rustup" again
<turion>
wnklmnn, have you tried without rustup, but instead installing rustc and cargo?
<wnklmnn>
I'll give it a try
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<wnklmnn>
rustc and cargo seem to be working fine.
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<emilsp>
does anyone have any experience cross-compiling perl stuff for arm?
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<slabity>
emilsp: If you're using `configure` then you should just be able to pass in a `--target=architecture` flag
<slabity>
Assuming you are using perl-cross
<emilsp>
slabity: I'm trying to build nixpkgs on amd64 for arm64, so I kind of need to fiddle with buildPerlPackage it seems :/
<emilsp>
And the issue is more that --host is not being passed.
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<wnklmnn>
I just ran "nix-env -iA nixos.rustup" in a vm configured with 6 and 12 cores. 6 cores worked. 12 cores crashed the same way as on my host machine...
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<OmnipotentEntity>
wnklmnn, I know this is probably not addressing the real issue, but there's an official mozilla rust overlay that you probably should be using if you're not already.
<wnklmnn>
omnipotententity, are there any load test which would give helpful hints?
<OmnipotentEntity>
If the compiler is ICEing on readily available cargo packages, then there might just be something dumb like filesystem corruption?
<OmnipotentEntity>
But the fact that it's repeatable in a VM kinda lays that one to rest.
<OmnipotentEntity>
It's odd that it's an issue with different amounts of cores. But I have way more than 12 on my machine and it works over here.
<OmnipotentEntity>
Can you gist with RUST_BACKTRACE=1?
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<wnklmnn>
Sure.
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<wnklmnn>
'RUST_BACKTRACE=1 nix-env -iA nixos.rustup' does not seem to produce more output. Is there a way to decalre the env varible for the nix-builder user?
<clever>
wnklmnn: use an overlay to override the derivation in question
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[nixpkgs] @thoughtpolice pushed 6 commits to master: https://git.io/JJmlJ
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<KarlJoad>
,locate hwd
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Found in packages: qbs, bluez, eudev, mythtv, ell.dev, libudev, linux.dev, plan9port, qtcreator, libmtp.bin, alsaLib.dev, libudev.man, linux-libre.dev, linux_mptcp.dev, linux_testing.dev, media-player-info, systemd_with_lvm2, linux_mptcp_94.dev, systemd_with_lvm2.man, linuxPackages_4_4.kernel.dev, linuxPackages_4_9.kernel.dev, linuxPackages_5_5.kernel.dev, linuxPackages_4_14.kernel.dev, linuxPackages_4_19.kernel.dev, and 7 more
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<wnklmnn>
omnipotententity, i just tried in repl with the master-branch which should be 1.44 same result. It seems to be an issue with my machine.
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[nixos-search] @garbas pushed to sending-an-empty-query-shows-spinner « don't show spinner when empty query is submitted »: https://git.io/JJm8L
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[nixos-search] @garbas opened pull request #128 → don't show spinner when empty query is submitted → https://git.io/JJm8m
<grfn>
oh oops I forgot I had to opt in
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[nixos-search] @garbas merged pull request #126 → Better define the page we are on → https://git.io/JJmlw
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[nixos-search] @garbas pushed to master « Better define the page we are on (#126) »: https://git.io/JJm8Y
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[nixos-search] @garbas pushed 0 commits to better-define-the-page-we-are-on: https://git.io/JJm8O
<OmnipotentEntity>
wnklmnn, that would be an super weird issue with your machine.
<evanjs>
struggling with several "while evaluating the attribute '_module.args.backendVersion' at undefined position" ... "attribute 'backendVersion' missing, at /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/lib/modules.nix:221:28" messages
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[nixos-search] @garbas pushed 0 commits to change-channel-order: https://git.io/JJm8Z
<mvnetbiz_>
I cant figure out how to connect to a test vm, this doesnt work. env QEMU_NET_OPTS=hostfwd=tcp::8123-:8123 ./result/bin/run-nixos-vm
<evanjs>
not quite sure where to start, as it looks like I'm importing where I need to and etc
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<wnklmnn>
omnipotententity, now i _just_ have to find the issue with my hardware :D
<OmnipotentEntity>
lol
<wnklmnn>
I ran memtest earlier without errors...
<KarlJoad>
I'm running a `sudo nixos-rebuild build` on my system, and I seem to be downloading, compiling, and testing a bunch of Rust crates. Did something change last night?
<OmnipotentEntity>
wnklmnn, if it's an issue where you're getting errors only when you use a bunch of cores, then you might want to test with prime95 instead.
<OmnipotentEntity>
memory tests generally only test your memory and are really light on CPUs.
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[nixos-search] @garbas merged pull request #128 → don't show spinner when empty query is submitted → https://git.io/JJm8m
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[nixos-search] @garbas pushed to master « don't show spinner when empty query is submitted (#128) »: https://git.io/JJm8g
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[nixos-search] @garbas pushed 0 commits to sending-an-empty-query-shows-spinner: https://git.io/JJm82
<gchristensen>
anyone (cc teto :P) made Cisco AnyConnect's SSL VPN work on NixOS?
<wnklmnn>
I'll try that. the ftp server serving mprime is slow as hell btw :D
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<teto>
gchristensen: haha nope. I've been able to stay away from all VPNs for the past year
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<slabity>
gchristensen: I've used OpenConnect with NetworkManager... Does that count?
<gchristensen>
teto: thanks! (and thanks for your help the first time with anyconnect's ipsec vpn last year!) slabity: that counts! any special setup I need to do? just add gnome3.networkmanager-openconnect to networking.networkmanager.packages?
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[nixpkgs] @tfmoraes opened pull request #92799 → Zettlr: init at 1.7.1 → https://git.io/JJm81
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<gchristensen>
slabity: ^
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<timokau[m]>
grfn: No, the at least according to the logs Marvin is feeling pretty healthy, maybe a bit bored ;)
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[nixpkgs] @vbgl opened pull request #92800 → ocamlPackages.tsort: init at 2.0.0 → https://git.io/JJm85
<timokau[m]>
grfn: The status is called `needs_reviewer` though (since I wanted to avoid calling the other status `needs_merge`)
<grfn>
ohhhh
<grfn>
maybe an invalid command message?
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<timokau[m]>
grfn: Maybe at some point. For now I left it out since (1) I wanted to decrease probability of unintended spamming and (2) explicit commands should very rarely be necessary anyway. Of course the current opt-in situation affects (2), but that is temporary.
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timokau/marvin-mk2#31 (by turion, 1 week ago, open): How to handle typos
<emilsp>
wnklmnn: what cpu is it and what kernel are you running?
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<wnklmnn>
emilsp, Ryzen 5 3600 "Linux nixos 5.4.50 #1-NixOS SMP Tue Jun 30 20:21:55 UTC 2020 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
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[nixos-search] @garbas pushed to fix-118 « show suggestions loading spinner the moment a user starts typing »: https://git.io/JJm8j
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[nixos-search] @garbas opened pull request #129 → show suggestions loading spinner the moment a user starts typing → https://git.io/JJm4e
<buffet>
ok apparently im too stupid. lets just assume i got an nginx server with root = "${website}"; where website is just fetchFromGitHub { ... };. what would be the easiest way to get this to update without me needing to 1. change the rev, 2. change the sha256, 3. nixos-rebuild'ing everytime i change something on the site?
<emilsp>
wnklmnn: I'd try a non-stable kernel, 5.6 seems to run better on my ryzen machine. And I'd also try a really conservative memory config, and stock config for the CPU. Failing that, consider RMA'ing the CPU - this wouldn't be the first bad ryzen CPU i've seen in the wild :/
<slabity>
gchristensen: That should be it. Note I couldn't get any VPN software working with nmtui if you use that
<simpson>
buffet: You're not stupid, but that configuration is not really capable of doing much else. You could cut out (3) by doing a systemd user service; there's both NixOS and home-manager ways to do that, although you'll be blazing your own trail for nginx in particular. What did you want to do instead? Have changes from GH automatically appear within some amount of time?
<buffet>
simpson, yeah thats what i want to achieve in the end. i just went back a lot from what i was playing around with (some hydra stuff) to get to a state i can reproduce and understand
<wnklmnn>
emilsp, that shoud just be boot.kernelPackages = pkgs.linuxPackages_5_6; correct?
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[nixpkgs] @mvnetbiz opened pull request #92801 → home-assistant: fix zha in home-assistant → https://git.io/JJm4Z
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<emilsp>
wnklmnn: yes
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[nixos-search] @garbas pushed to fix-118 « add backdrop for suggestions »: https://git.io/JJm4V
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[nixos-search] @garbas merged pull request #129 → show suggestions loading spinner the moment a user starts typing → https://git.io/JJm4e
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[nixos-search] @garbas pushed to master « add backdrop for suggestions and show suggestions loading spinner the moment a user starts typing (#129) »: https://git.io/JJm4Q
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<wnklmnn>
emilsp, interesting... running mprime works under 5.6 also installing rustup simultaneously seems to work aswell. Thank you from saving me from getting out the screwdriver :D
<KarlJoad>
Just winging it, but does someone else use 2 separate GPUs for 2 separate monitors on NixOS? I'm really struggling to get this xorg/xserver config file generated correctly.
<bqv>
I did at one point. It was brittle and stopped working
<KarlJoad>
bqv: Do you still have a history for it in a Git repo, or something?
<bqv>
KarlJoad: It would have stopped working before I versioned the config, can't guarantee anything I have was the right version
<KarlJoad>
I just want something else to look at. Right now, I just have the xorg-generated and nvidia-generated configs to work with.
<KarlJoad>
Translating them to Nix is being kind of painful because of some of the defaults Nix puts in.
<slabity>
KarlJoad: Did you decide whether to go the nvidia-proprietary route or the ximerama route?
<bqv>
KarlJoad: http://ix.io/2rhT oh hey, heres the config from gentoo
<KarlJoad>
Right now, I'm trying to go the xinerama route, because at least I have relatively good documentation for that compared to the proprietary driver.
<bqv>
At least with one of each you have *options* y'know?
<slabity>
There's a config there with dual nvidia gpus with two monitors each
<bqv>
With two nvidias, looks like sway is a no-go cause sircmpwn's a sircmprick
<slabity>
bqv: tbf nobody wants to support EGLstreams except maybe GNOME
<slabity>
Especially when gbm is already a good solution that integrates well with other drivers
<bqv>
No, which is fine, I'm just extremely salty from the stunt he pulled several years back
<bqv>
Its why I refuse to use sway to this day
<bqv>
Despite now being amd
<slabity>
Was that when they decided to use wlroots instead of wlc?
<wrl>
which stunt?
<bqv>
No, when he intentionally put code into sway that prevented it from working if there was an nvidia card on the machine, even if the card wasn't in use
<bqv>
I hate nvidia but what I hate more is being economically weaponised to fight some guy's war for him
<bqv>
And that was just a shitty response to the situation
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<slabity>
That's hilarious
<slabity>
I mean, pretty dumb idea
<slabity>
But hilarious
<bqv>
It was infuriating
<bqv>
I was livid
<slabity>
Just like the new "mpv will not run on GNOME" drama that's come up
<KarlJoad>
Well, I have no current plans to use Sway, so it's a moot point for me.
<KarlJoad>
The example on the archwiki uses separate files for separate devices. Since the NixOS config writes only to xserver.conf, MUST I place things in a particular order?
<slabity>
KarlJoad: I don't believe the order matters.
<nicolas[m]1>
wm4 "removed" support for XDG in mpv, changing the default folder back to "$HOME/.mpv"
<bqv>
> Nvidia users are shitty consumers and I don’t even want them in my userbase.
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<evanjs>
so uh.... re my import issue from earlier....
<bqv>
This is the problem I have with him. He's within his rights to do that, but then I'm within my rights to hate him and scorn all his software
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<evanjs>
does anybody have a clue which cases might result in builtins.trace actually _fixing_ e.g. a missing attribute error?
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<nicolas[m]1>
For new configurations
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<nicolas[m]1>
builtins.trace has other side effects from printing?
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<bqv>
It will force strictness in places
<bqv>
Wait, will it?
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<bqv>
Not sure on that…
<evanjs>
that's what I'm wondering
<evanjs>
maybe something needed to be eval'd and trace did the trick?
<clever>
but the language is pure and shouldnt work like that
<clever>
nicolas[m]1: can you paste the part of the expr using trace?
<evanjs>
I mean, it's convenient to have in this case, so I guess I'll leave it there... as it does _fix_ the issue
<evanjs>
migth've been me lol
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<nbathum>
evanjs: what import problem
<nbathum>
probably a big ask, but do you have a 'minimal' example expression?
<robodojo>
i didnt know how hostile to open source nvidia is or i wouldn't have got their card. next time ati updates their product line i'm switching
<robodojo>
anyone else have good experience switching to ati cards from nvidia?
<evanjs>
nbathum: lol nice try but you know it's in one of the module files :P
<nbathum>
xD
<slabity>
robodojo: You're gonna be waiting a LONG time for ATI to release a new card
<slabity>
Maybe try AMD?
<evanjs>
anyway, it doesn't look like it was trace, after all... it seems e.g. `thing = cfg.thing;` works, but a plain `inherit (cfg) thing` in the override did not work
<bqv>
robodojo: besides wlroots, I've not seen a difference in anything
<bqv>
Except like, cuda
<evanjs>
*sigh*
<evanjs>
yeah, it was probably unrelated to _both_ of those things... presumably me doing something like `inherit thing` rather than `inherit (cfg) thing`
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[nixpkgs] @nlewo merged pull request #90115 → postfix: Replaced config key by recommendation and introduced usage of system trust store → https://git.io/JfShw
<KarlJoad>
Which makes more sense: Writing in monitorSection to configure the monitor[0] stuff, or use xrandrHeads?
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<KarlJoad>
Because the ServerLayout section uses screen[0] by default, and there is no way to remove it; and I do not know how this will affect the xinerama screen.
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<bbigras>
,locate event.h
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<lassulus>
evanjs: I figured out where the `path /build should have permissions 755, but had permissions 700. Consider running 'chmod o+rx /build'.` error came from
<slabity>
Anyone know how I can run a NixOps deployment with a local checkout of `nixpkgs`? My deployment command is `nixops deploy -d MyNetwork --include=my-system`
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<simpson>
I used to override $NIX_PATH in the environment. Maybe there's a better way these days.
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<slabity>
Yea, that'd probably work
<infinisil>
slabity: I think passing `-I nixpkgs=/path/to/nixpkgs` should work
<clever>
slabity: if you `nixops modify -d networkname deployment.nix -I nixpkgs=/anything`, it will get baked into the sqlite state
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<clever>
slabity: and then `nixops deploy -d networkname` will remember that `-I nixpkgs=/anything` for you
<f00860>
I am having trouble setting up the "ly" display manager. Can't find any documentation for it. There is only documentation for lightdm and others.
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<musteresel>
Hi, can I add a large file that I downloaded from some URL to the nix store in a way such that a nix-build which requires the file from that url can use it?
<clever>
musteresel: look into pkgs.requireFile
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<musteresel>
clever: thanks, using src = requireFile { name = ".."; sha256 = ".."; message = ".."; } works great :)