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<Nicholas29> Hi there, I am quite new to Nix. I really like Nix in general. I am trying to write a nix package to install Carthage on macOS but to no vail. Is this the right place to ask some questions?
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<selfsymmetric-mu> Nicholas29: it is.
<elvishjerricco> Ericson2314: Seems the `nixpkgs.crossSystem` NixOS option doesn't work anymore. `attribute 'system' missing`
<Nicholas29> selfsymmetric-mu Thanks!
<Nicholas29> So I have written a nix file for Carthage and it works to a certain degree, which can be fonud here: https://gist.github.com/NicholasTD07/5e4dbabe18227391338d950917e1959f
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<Nicholas29> My issue with Carthage on macOS is that it requires Swift and also sandbox. I got around the swift requirement with a xcode wrapper but I am not sure what I can do about the sandbox requirment on macOS... HALP.
<Nicholas29> I was trying to manually do the build by using `buildCommand` but it did not give me the source folder and I am not sure how to get there.
<selfsymmetric-mu> Looks tricky!
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<selfsymmetric-mu> sandbox is a OSX-specific thing, right?
<Nicholas29> Yes.
<{^_^}> #18506 (by dhess, 2 years ago, closed): The state of Nix on OS X
<Nicholas29> I am hoping if I can manually replicate the make install commands then I can pass the build flag to disblae sandboxing
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<selfsymmetric-mu> According to the above it looks like there's supposed to be _some_ kind of sandbox support in Nix.
<selfsymmetric-mu> But the issue just says that it was made available in 1.12 without saying where? Weird.
<EsperLily> what do you mean by "Carthage requires the sandbox"?
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<EsperLily> also hardcoding a specific version of Xcode seems like a rather poor idea
<EsperLily> because the package will break with newer Xcodes
<Nicholas29> EsperLily Carthage requires `swift` to build it and I think `swift` by default has sandbox turned on.
<EsperLily> swift has nothing to do with sandboxng
<EsperLily> *sandboxing
<Nicholas29> EsperLily You are absolutely right on the hardcoding xcode version.
<Nicholas29> EsperLily there is an option for `swift build` `--disable-sandbox Disable using the sandbox when executing subprocesses`
<EsperLily> ok that's SPM, not swift in general. Does Carthage actually build with SPM these days?
<EsperLily> I'm also not sure why you'd need to disable any sandboxing of SPM's builder subprocesses
<EsperLily> huh Carthage's build script tests for an env var called HOMEBREW_SDKROOT and uses that to determine if it should pass --disable-sandbox, which is really curious because I didn't think Homebrew did shenanigans like that
<Nicholas29> because that need `sandbox-exec` which again, I could get around by symlink into nix (This might be a hacky workaround. Happy for any suggestion on a better solution aswell)
<EsperLily> you could try having your derivation run `make install SWIFTPM_DISABLE_SANDBOX_SHOULD_BE_FLAGGED=should_be_flagged` which should ask the Makefile to disable the sandbox
<EsperLily> or include a patch for the Makefile to do the equivalent
<Nicholas29> But even with `sandbox-exec` symlinked, I am running into other issues related with sandboxing so that's why I am trying to disable it
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<selfsymmetric-mu> Nicholas29: consider putting up an issue and WIP pull-request up on the nixpkgs repository.
<selfsymmetric-mu> That way you might get some additional visibility.
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<EsperLily> FWIW looking at the Makefile you shouldn't need to symlink in any Xcode-related stuff, just the build tools that swift itself uses
<Nicholas29> EsperLily Sorry, this is my very first nix expression and I got a dumb question: how do I have my derivation run that command. By putting it as the `bulidCommand`?
<EsperLily> honestly, I'd recommend the patch approach because that way you'll get an error if the Makefile changes such that the patch doesn't apply anymore
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<Nicholas29> EsperLily you are right. Just swift itself is probably fine. I am "re-using" the xcode-wrapper for another packgae which needs other things listed in the xcode-wrapper package.
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<EsperLily> but if you want the make approach you can actually write `makeFlags = [ "SWIFTPM_DISABLE_SANDBOX_SHOULD_BE_FLAGGED=should_be_flagged" ];`
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/fjbAW
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<EsperLily> I am curious if you could build Carthage using nixpkgs.swift instead of Xcode
<EsperLily> oh hah, that package doesn't support darwin
<EsperLily> that's actually pretty funny
<Nicholas29> yeah
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<Nicholas29> that's the reason I have the symlink. Believe me I have tried
<Nicholas29> EsperLily selfsymmetric-mu Thanks for your input and I will definitely create a PR once I can get it up and running and fix a few things. Now, the nix can build, YES!
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<Nicholas29> It stops at building SPM tho... because of a bunch of header file not found :thinking:
<selfsymmetric-mu> Nicholas29++ EsperLily++
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<Nicholas29> selfsymmetric-mu++ :D
<{^_^}> selfsymmetric-mu's karma got increased to 2
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar merged pull request #67222 → gnome-hexgl: init at unstable-2019-08-21 → https://git.io/fjbb5
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse closed pull request #67148 → perlPackages.DBDOracle: 1.76 -> 1.80 → https://git.io/fjbug
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<nickTD> It seems I need cpp headers for SPM to compile. What's the best way to include it?
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<iqubic> Does anyone know why zsh is not being using as my main shell?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse merged pull request #67146 → kdevelop, kdev-php, kdev-python: 5.4.0 -> 5.4.1 → https://git.io/fjbuO
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<nickTD> iqubic have you set up nix-any-shell?
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<iqubic> No.
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<iqubic> I think it might be something to do with grabbing the latest version of emacs from git.
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<nickTD> iqubic That should help with nix-shell using zsh. :D
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<iqubic> No... My issue is that when I open up a terminal, it runs some shell that I don't think is my default zsh.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthewbauer opened pull request #67225 → nixos/zsh: Fix tramp support → https://git.io/fjbxo
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/d9617978fb7 (from 4 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<iqubic> See, my issue is that when I open a TTY and log in as my own person user, I get one prompt. Then I run the command `zsh` and get a different prompt. WTF?!!??!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bdesham opened pull request #67226 → swiftformat: init at 0.40.11 → https://git.io/fjbxX
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<iqubic> Anyone know what is going on here?
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<emily> login vs. interactive shell rcs, probably.
<iqubic> Oh, really?
<emily> well, depends on the prompts. it's also possible one of them is bash because you didn't change your shell properly i guess.
<iqubic> yeah.
<iqubic> one of them is bash.
<iqubic> How do I set my primary shell to zsh?
<emily> well, did you set your shell to zsh?
<emily> see https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#users+shell, users.users.<name?>.shell
<emily> assuming you're using declarative user config, maybe chsh works if not?
<iqubic> Can I also set root's shell to ZSH to?
<iqubic> So that `sudo -i` drops me into zsh?
<emily> root is a user too.
<emily> I haven't tried it, but I don't see why it shouldn't work the same way
<iqubic> I see.
<emily> but wouldn't `sudo -s` be a simpler way to accomplish that?
<emily> i think it uses your $SHELL.
<EsperLily> you can even just set `users.defaultUserShell`
<iqubic> I'm just going to try setting the defaultUserShell to pkgs.zsh
<emily> -i is a login shell so it won't inherit as much stuff from your environment.
<EsperLily> and that will be used for all users that don't specify one
<EsperLily> I just confirmed root on my machine is using fish via that setting
<iqubic> error: The option `users.users.defaultUserShell.__ignoreNulls' defined in `/etc/nixos/configuration.nix' does not exist.
<iqubic> What is that error?
<iqubic> user.users.iqubic.defaultUserShell = pkgs.zsh;
<iqubic> That should be right, but it isn't.
<thoughtpolice> emily: #67022 is almost good to go and it looks like ftdi built fine on Darwin
<thoughtpolice> jfyi
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/67022 (by emilazy, 1 day ago, open): Update FOSS EDA tools again
<iqubic> Anyone know why that line of code isn't working for me?
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<thefloweringash> hpfr: sounds like you're doing the right thing. Is your configuration public?
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<thefloweringash> hpfr: you can build just the config file and inspect it to check if your option was set with `nix-build '<nixpkgs/nixos>' -A config.system.build.kernel.configfile`
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<hpfr[m]> thefloweringash: configs not public yet, I’m somewhat new to git and Linux in general besides nix haha but I plan to make it public once I am confident in handling secrets and stuff. Thanks for the tip on the command to check it but it’s already compiling, I’ll just check /proc/config.gz after
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @TravisWhitaker opened pull request #67228 → Pass hoogle-local's buildCommand as a file. → https://git.io/fjbpg
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<wykurz> hi, does anyone here know why nixops release 1.7 (release in April) does not have a commit from 11 months ago?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #66572 → keepassxc: 2.4.1 -> 2.4.3 → https://git.io/fj5od
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjbjo
<wykurz> alternatively - can someone suggest a good way to pick use nixops master? I don't see any documentation on running it from the master branch
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<ashkitten> dolphinEmu build fails with error: exception handling disabled, use -fexceptions to enable. i don't see how this literally ever could have worked
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @sikmir opened pull request #67230 → gpxsee: 7.11 -> 7.12 → https://git.io/fjbjx
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<ashkitten> ha ha! reproducibility! i cant build systemd from nixos-19.03
<ashkitten> tfw you can't bisect an issue because old things won't build in your supposedly 100% reproducible package manager
<ashkitten> oh
<ashkitten> nvm
<ashkitten> im dumb and it was using my config.nix
<ashkitten> and overlays.nix
<clever> ashkitten: nix-build -A systemd --arg config '{}' --arg overlays '[]'
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<ashkitten> yeah
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<ashkitten> ty
<ashkitten> Bisecting: 51847 revisions left to test after this (roughly 16 steps)
<ashkitten> looks like 1fb1d818608e46ae3def9ace7d8707a903151d9f soundtouch: 2.0.0 -> 2.1.2 was the commit that broke it
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Shados opened pull request #67231 → Add Moonscript → https://git.io/fjNeZ
<ashkitten> hmm, what should i do about this?
<ashkitten> should i introduce a soundtouch-2.0 package?
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<ashkitten> should i override soundtouch for dolphin?
<ashkitten> idk
<ashkitten> what's the usual way to deal with package breakage?
<worldofpeace> hey ashkitten what's the bug?
<ashkitten> dolphinEmu won't build on nixos-unstable because of soundtouch updating from 2.0.0 to 2.1.2
<ashkitten> not sure how to handle this
<worldofpeace> hmm, does dolphinEmu not support that version?
<Shados> Pretty sure 'introduce a separate package' in case of API breakage
<ashkitten> seems so. dolphinEmuMaster does build, but dolphinEmu is 3 years old now
<ashkitten> with no new stable version in sight
<Shados> Maybe just move it to unstable...? That's a long time without releases
<emily> can I put in a vote for removing the stable package instead? :v
<emily> just make dolphinEmu an alias for dolphinEmuMaster. if you want to run a 3 year old build you can use 3 year old nipkgs
<emily> *nixpkgs
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<jollyjester> hey i just installed virtualbox and i don't know how to start it
<jollyjester> running `virtualbox` doesn't do anything
<ashkitten> i'm fine with that approach too
<jollyjester> and it's not found
<ashkitten> i just don't want broken packages
<emily> given that https://dolphin-emu.org/ doesn't even let you know the stable version exists before you scroll down the downloads page it seems fairly marginal to me, at least
<ashkitten> i'm not one to try and introduce things like that on my own
<ashkitten> but if you're all in favor of it
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<emily> hey, i have no authority mind you >_>
<ashkitten> neither do i
<ashkitten> worldofpeace: what do you think?
<worldofpeace> ashkitten: it looks like fedora holds a patch to fix a build with soundtouch https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/dolphin-emu/c/a1b91fdf94981e12c8889a02cba0ec2267d0f303
<worldofpeace> perhaps it's the same issue, though it could be stale.
<ashkitten> that looks like my issue
<worldofpeace> Updating to an unstable version of something is usually not the best solution. Usually I'd do that if it's my last choice.
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<worldofpeace> And nix it pretty flexable so you can have an older version of a package around if needed too.
<ashkitten> of course. dolphin is sort of a weird case where releases are extremely far between, and the devs generally encourage staying on the latest patch
<worldofpeace> Right, and I think it's best to go with what upstream reccommends. They should know their software best.
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<ashkitten> my main concern is when the next release of dolphin does appear and we end up reintroducing a stable version
<ashkitten> when do we consider a release obsoleted? do we just switch between stable and unstable versions for dolphinEmu?
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<xok> hello all...
<ashkitten> btw, it builds fine with that patch it seems
<xok> I've got nixops on one machine and want to copy all the deployed machine states to another machine..
<xok> is that possible?..
<worldofpeace> ashkitten: It seems that they even vendor some of their deps https://github.com/dolphin-emu/dolphin/tree/master/Externals/soundtouch
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<ashkitten> do we use the vendored deps?
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<ashkitten> i guess not, seeing as we have this issue
<worldofpeace> Right, I'm guessing they fallback to the vendored ones if they can't detect it at configure time
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<ashkitten> ah, figures
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<worldofpeace> Oh also, when dolphinEmu makes a stable release and what's latest on master is the same dolphinEmuMaster should probably just be the same version
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ck3d opened pull request #67232 → container config: better default in case of resolved → https://git.io/fjNeR
<ashkitten> can you reword that, worldofpeace?
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<emily> I don't think commits stay HEAD in dolphin very long :)
<emily> so I'd be surprised if that ever came to pass
<worldofpeace> Ahh it's like that emily Then disregard the comment, most other unstable packages could work like that
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<jollyjester> sooooo
<jollyjester> how can i start virtualbox
<clever> jollyjester: run VirtualBox
<jollyjester> ohh it's capitalized
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<jollyjester> why do people capitalize binaries?
<jollyjester> what do they get from it?
<clever> evil joy, lol
<jollyjester> a punch in the face that's what they get
<jollyjester> :p
<clever> :D
<jollyjester> great
<jollyjester> now i'm getting this error
<jollyjester> probably a missing package but which one
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<worldofpeace> did you use the nixos option jollyjester ?
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<ashkitten> in my commit messages should i say like, "dolphinEmu, dolphinEmuMaster: blah blah" or just "dolphinEmu: blah blah"
<worldofpeace> did you change both packages ashkitten ?
<ashkitten> yes
<worldofpeace> Are they the same change?
<ashkitten> yeah
<worldofpeace> It'd be best to use the same commit msg then, but one commit per package
<ashkitten> sure
<jollyjester> worldofpeace: what option
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<worldofpeace> jollyjester: https://nixos.org/nixos/options.html#virtualisation.virtualbox.host.enable
<jollyjester> what
<jollyjester> i thought that was if you're running nixos in virtualbox
<jollyjester> hm well ok let me see
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @doronbehar opened pull request #67233 → stig: init at 0.10.1a0 → https://git.io/fjNey
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<ashkitten> worldofpeace: i've got 5 commits here. 3 of them are build/runtime fixes, 2 are style fixes. should i submit them in a PR together? i'm afraid that with the already overwhelming PR load it just won't get looked at, tbh
<ashkitten> if i submit as separate
<srhb> It's hard to say in general, but small PRs usually win attention faster than big ones.
<worldofpeace> ashkitten: I can review it and try to merge
<srhb> Reading big diffs can be overwhelming :)
<ashkitten> sure
<worldofpeace> big PR's don't scare me :D
<srhb> worldofpeace: I noticed ;-)
<srhb> worldofpeace++
<{^_^}> worldofpeace's karma got increased to 31
<ashkitten> i'm also gonna go ahead and add myself as a maintainer for dolphinEmu and dolphinEmuMaster, and update dolphinEmuMaster to current
<ashkitten> it's all in separate commits like you wanted
<worldofpeace> thx srhb ❤️
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb merged pull request #67190 → libosmium: 2.15.1 -> 2.15.2 → https://git.io/fjbDq
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjNeh
<ashkitten> worldofpeace: this seem like a good set of changes? i'll just submit a PR as "dolphin-emu fixes and updates" i guess lol. doesn't matter what the PR is titled
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ashkitten opened pull request #67235 → dolphin-emu fixes and updates → https://git.io/fjNvO
<{^_^}> #67235 (by ashkitten, 24 seconds ago, open): dolphin-emu fixes and updates
<ashkitten> going bed now, it is late
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb merged pull request #67149 → mosml: fix build error on darwin → https://git.io/fjbua
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjNvs
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto merged pull request #67231 → Add Moonscript → https://git.io/fjNeZ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/fjNvE
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Chiiruno opened pull request #67236 → Update: easyjson, quicktemplate, statik, qtchan, vlang → https://git.io/fjNvz
<worldofpeace> ashkitten: Thanks, I've left you a review for when you awaken :P
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<worldofpeace> Also, perfect commit order 👍️ PRs like that in packaging are usually fine.
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<Ariakenom> where do I set primary display?
<Ariakenom> I had it setin kde gui which usually works fine. but it did just get changed
<srhb> Ariakenom: There's services.xserver.xrandrHeads, but I've no experience with it, and generally bad experience with Linux and monitor management :P
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<clever> Ariakenom: i just set it in xfce display settings
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @lsix opened pull request #67238 → freeipmi: 1.6.4 -> 1.6.4 → https://git.io/fjNvi
<cinimod> I am running the tests on a package. If I do `stack test ...` then the tests run but if I do `cabal new-test ...` then I get error while loading shared libraries: libgfortran.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
<cinimod> Does anyone have any tips on how to fix cabal?
<cinimod> Maybe I should raise a ticket on the cabal repo
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<srhb> cinimod: Do you have a reproducible version of this issue somewhere online?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb merged pull request #67230 → gpxsee: 7.11 -> 7.12 → https://git.io/fjbjx
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjNv9
<clever> srhb: i think the problem only happens with impure builds
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<srhb> clever: re. the cargo config?
* srhb is a bit confused
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<srhb> Oh, the new-build thing
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<cinimod> Ah sorry wrong channel
<cinimod> srhb: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/67032 but I meant to post this in #haskell
<{^_^}> #67032 (by idontgetoutmuch, 2 days ago, closed): Tests for Haskell package fail with linker errors
<cinimod> srhb: I closed it because I don't think this is a nix problem
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @abbradar pushed commit from @delroth to staging « SDL2: don't mix space-separated / lists in cmake config »: https://git.io/fjNfl
<Izorkin> teto: no idea to fix error - The option `boot.kernelPackages' has conflicting definitions ?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @markuskowa merged pull request #67238 → freeipmi: 1.6.3 -> 1.6.4 → https://git.io/fjNvi
<teto> Izorkin: mkForce ?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @markuskowa pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjNfR
<srhb> Izorkin: Why is it defined more than once in the first place? :)
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<Izorkin> teto: not suitable, I need the ability to change boot.kernelPackages in files ../deploy/_my_cystom_vm/hardware-configuration.nix
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<teto> can't you manage so that there is only one definition ?
<teto> maybe because nixops already defines it I guess
<Ariakenom> I'm doing nix pills #12 but I've run into a problem. The steps to add png support didn't work for me. I get the same error.
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<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/12 (by garbas, 7 years ago, closed): afew and alot updates
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<Izorkin> teto: for testing, I use a virtual machine - deploy /.../ pve2-test I need to use another kernel sometimes
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<srhb> Ariakenom: Do you have it online somewhere?
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<teto> Izorkin: hold on nixops looks broken on unstable, trying to fix it
<Ariakenom> srhb: no, ill get the files together
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<teto> gosh I hate how nixops is the only software that doesn't comply with basic nix-shell/overrides while it should be the first. This ./dev-shell script shouldn't be necessary
<teto> fixed it
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto opened pull request #67240 → ns-3: 3.29 -> 3.30 → https://git.io/fjNfQ
<Izorkin> teto: need check with nixopsUnstable?
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<Ariakenom> how should I get skype. skypeforlinux wasn't cached, tried to build and failed
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<sphalerite> Ariakenom: upstream keeps breaking the download link. Fix it in your local checkout of nixpkgs and install it from there. If you're feeling generous, open a PR ;)
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<hyper_ch2> isn't skype evil?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @kcalvinalvin opened pull request #67241 → Added support for cmt(Chrome Multitouch) → https://git.io/fjNfF
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<sphalerite> hyper_ch2: also that
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<srhb> Ariakenom: Not quite sure what's wrong yet, but it looks like at least your builders aren't dealing with multiple output packages well (gd.dev vs. gd.out for instance)
<Ariakenom> thanks guys brb
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<freeman[w]> I managed to go through the NixOS installation but after restart GRUB won't book. This is my configuration: https://i.imgur.com/S67OH39.png
<freeman[w]> wtf, it is booting now... xD nvm everyone++
<joepie91> that was one very quiet rubber duck
<joepie91> :p
<srhb> Best kind.
<freeman[w]> joepie91, kek. But wait, there is more. I think it is failing to boot after a restart :/ https://i.imgur.com/7T22Uid.png
<freeman[w]> so it booted ONCE, failed to boot the 2ND time. WTF
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<__monty__> freeman[w]: Did you wait the full 1min30s?
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<hyper_ch2> and what kind of device is that?
<joepie91> floppy drive? :)
<freeman[w]> __monty__, I waited and: https://i.imgur.com/fEdPaos.png
<__monty__> I have an ide disk that takes 1min30s to whatever at boot.
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<srhb> __monty__: O_o
<__monty__> Maybe nixos is setup to fsck quite aggressively?
<freeman[w]> hyper_ch2, are you asking me? it's running inside VMWare VM
<__monty__> It's an old box so I don't mind enough to look into it : )
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<aria> every time i launch firefox dev edition it bugs me about setting it as the default app. i hit the button but it still nags me every time. any ideas on how to set it as the default?
<__monty__> aria: There's probably an about:config setting to twiddle that, add that to extraConfig or similar.
<aria> __monty__: if i could do it from inside firefox it would be doing it the first time i hit the button i think
<__monty__> aria: I'm not telling you to do it from within firefox, I'm telling you to add a setting to extraConfig or whatever the option for firefox is called that let's you specify whatever.
<hyper_ch2> freeman[w]: post your hardware- and configuration.nix
<aria> oooh right. im also not using programs.firefox.enable or whichever it is, all i did was install the firefox-dev-edition package
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<freeman[w]> hyper_ch2, hold on, it might be fixed
<__monty__> aria: Hmm, weird. Then I'd expect ff to just write to the profile freely. Maybe a bug?
<aria> mm, maybe
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<teto> Izorkin: so I define kernelPackages in my nixops VM and it seems to work fine, I believe the warning you see is legitimate, try not to define it twice (via modularizing your config for instance)
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<freedan42x> my wifi is still not working even if it says "Successfully initialized wpa_supplicant"
<freedan42x> it worked earlier, but when I tried to switch to another network, it doesn't seem to work
<Izorkin> teto: Now I use in one place - nixops/config-defs/core.nix There is an error anyway
<freeman[w]> freedan42x, o hi there! hahaha. anyway. The NixOS intall instructions are broken (when tried for a VMWare VM). Is there a way I can contribute to the documentation to simplify it and get it to work?
<teto> what's the stacktrace ? does it share the locations ?
<srhb> freeman[w]: Yeah, you absolutely can. I doubt they're broken though -- I did a VMWare install just the other day -- what's the problem?
<dminuoso> freeman[w]: If you have any improvements, feel free to make a PR :)
<srhb> (or at least, not *totally* broken)
<freeman[w]> dminuoso, cheers man. It is time to optimize the hell out of the NixOS installation steps to make it less painfull
<freeman[w]> dminuoso, one improvement I really want done is adding steps on how to set up the partitions using GParted
<dminuoso> freeman[w]: Direct your comments to srhb better, I just dropped in to give you the link. :)
<srhb> Or just the channel in general ^^;
<freeman[w]> srhb, I run into countlesss issues. I posted them here yesterday. Anyway, I might try again from 0 and see what I run into
<srhb> freeman[w]: Sounds great. Taking notes along the way in the docs will definitely help.
<dminuoso> But yes, the nixos installation guides has some rough edges. For example if you follow them strictly, you end up with misaligned partitions.
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<freeman[w]> srhb, I will remove all the partitioning and follow the steps exactly as in the manual once again and report issues I run into
<srhb> freeman[w]: Cool :)
<dminuoso> (I think I just default to gdisk because it automatically aligns partitions)
<dminuoso> Perhaps using parted as default instructions is the issue since it requires more manual intervention.
<freeman[w]> why is there an installation.xml and an installing.xml? xD
<dminuoso> freeman[w]: Check the content, its self explanatory
<freeman[w]> dminuoso, I get that the content might be self-explanatory, I was just finding funny that their names sounds almost the same
<dminuoso> freeman[w]: If you check the ToC, then you will see that I. is called "Installation" ;)
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<Izorkin> teto: trace https://pastebin.com/73GzVpWy
<freeman[w]> so I will use the MBR branch of the instructions since VMWare has MBR bios afaik
<srhb> freeman[w]: I've done both on (recentish) VMWare. So both are possible
<dminuoso> srhb: Isnt efi unsupported though?
<srhb> dminuoso: What does "unsupported" mean? :-P
<freeman[w]> srhb, you can do both. But I think you need to manually enable UEFI if you want to use it
<dminuoso> srhb: There's no official interface for switching to efi. I think you just manipulate the .vmx for your machine.
<srhb> I've tried getting (paid) support for numerous supposedly supported features in VMWare, with very varying success.
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<srhb> freeman[w]: Yep.
<srhb> dminuoso: Ah, I used vcenter or the API.
<dminuoso> Unless that got changed.
<dminuoso> srhb: I see.
* dminuoso is getting old
<srhb> Maybe it's not supported in workstation versions? I don't know :)
<srhb> In fact, I have almost no idea what differences there are..
<dminuoso> srhb: Ah that might be it.
<Ariakenom> sphalerite: about skype links that changed, I'm too noob gonna need more specifics :p. where can I find the sources to change?
<srhb> Ariakenom: Try: nix edit nixpkgs.skypeforlinux
<sphalerite> srhb: that'll be read-only… :/
<srhb> sphalerite: Sure, but it shows the location :)
<sphalerite> Ariakenom: are you familiar with git?
<freeman[w]> I am following the MBR setup steps. Do I need to perform this UEFI step? https://i.imgur.com/quXqHHC.png
<freeman[w]> asking because even for MBR I assume there should be some BIOS partition formatting, but it is not mentioned
<dminuoso> freeman[w]: "BIOS partition formatting" ?
<dminuoso> freeman[w]: What is that?
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<srhb> freeman[w]: You don't need a separate boot partition if you're using MBR, if that's what you're asking.
<srhb> (you don't really either for UEFI, but it's practical to lump it together with efisys...)
<dminuoso> Having a separate boot partition is useful for a variety of reasons. :)
<srhb> Sure.
<srhb> It's not part of our MBR instructions though, afaik :)
<freedan42x_> how can I create new swap file if I didn't do this on the installation stage?
<dminuoso> They really ought to be, as long as we dont have some kind of automated installer. :)
<freeman[w]> srhb, "You don't need a separate boot partition if you're using MBR, if that's what you're asking." cheers, I totally missed that srhb++
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<srhb> freedan42x_: Depends what filesystem you're using.
<freedan42x_> srhb, ext4
<dminuoso> freedan42x_: We have been using entire swap partitions rather than swap files for a long time
<srhb> freedan42x_: If you set size in the swap device options, it will interpret "device" as the path to a swap file
<srhb> It's a bit arcane, but I think it still works.
<freedan42x_> srhb, "swap device options"?
<srhb> Uhhh
<rsoeldner> Hi, when entering `nix-shell` with pinning https://gist.github.com/rsoeldner/dc3a9b94dc53829bae5089493b653aa5 `ghc-pkgs list` will not show `servant-websockets` but when using `nix-shell --pure` it is working, why ?
<freeman[w]> I followed the instructions precisely and I got this error: https://i.imgur.com/TGee0fV.png which is most probably because MBR does not need that command to be run, right?
<srhb> freeman[w]: Do you mean step "2. UEFI systems" ?
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<freedan42x_> srhb, how do I set that option? is there a command?
<freeman[w]> srhb, what do you mean?
<srhb> freedan42x_: It's a NixOS option. Just set it in your config :)
<srhb> freeman[w]: Are you talking about section 2.3 Install step 2?
<freeman[w]> srhb, correct
<srhb> freeman[w]: If so, "UEFI systems" is supposed to imply "UEFI systems only"
<srhb> freeman[w]: That is, NOT mbr (which doesn't have a separate /boot partition according to the guide)
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<freeman[w]> srhb, jesus I am so stupid. But I swear there has to be a more clear way. Maybe have separate UEFI/MBR instructions? Dunno, this is just confusing
<teto> Izorkin: I've set the hardened profile and configured a different kernel, it evaluates fine.
<freedan42x_> srhb, `error: syntax error, unexpected '*'`
<srhb> freeman[w]: I'm sure it can be improved. I mean, even adding *only* would help :-)
<teto> Izorkin: is the config public ?
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<srhb> freedan42x_: Ah sorry, the * is supposed to indicate a unique attribute name of your choosing in its place. Usually the device node iirc
<Izorkin> teto - no public
<srhb> freedan42x_: Er, that's wrong. it's a list.
<srhb> freedan42x_: So, swapDevices = [ { device = "/path/to/yourfile"; size = ...; } ];
<freedan42x_> srhb, path/to/myfile? what file?
<srhb> freedan42x_: The place in which you want your swapfile created.
<freedan42x_> srhb, like var/swap?
<srhb> freedan42x_: For instance. :)
<srhb> freedan42x_: Make sure it's someplace that's mounted early, I don't recall how early swap is activated :)
<freedan42x_> srhb, how do I check my swapfile status? like free space etc.
<srhb> freedan42x_: free -h
<freedan42x_> srhb, thank you for the help! :)
<srhb> freedan42x_: Welcome!
<srhb> rsoeldner: That nix file appears to be just a nixpkgs?
<srhb> rsoeldner: (with some overlays)
<srhb> rsoeldner: So ghc-pkg shouldn't even be on PATH -- something else is going on.
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<Ariakenom> sphalerite: sry I keep getting dragged into things. yeah I know git
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<Ariakenom> srhb: about th nix pills issues. yeah I suppose the packages have changed so that the setup.sh doesn't work anymore. but I lack knowledge to even make good guesses
<srhb> Ariakenom: This one is pretty horrible. on top of the multiple outputs, gdlib-config appears to have, at some point in time, output the location of its own libs with --ldflags. It no longer does that, and the graphviz configure script expects it.
<srhb> Ariakenom: Have you considered using a contemporary nixpkgs for nix-pills?
<srhb> Ariakenom: assuming it still works there will be fewer surprises.
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<sphalerite> Ariakenom: git clone https://github.com/nixos/nixpkgs ; cd nixpkgs ; nix edit -f . skypeforlinux
<sphalerite> Ariakenom: then nix-env -f . -iA skypeforlinux to install it in your profile
<Ariakenom> srhb: This is the first such issue I've run into I think and afaict it won't affect anything. Now that I know I didn't screw up I'll just continue. But I'll keep that in mind for the future. Thanks a bunch.
<srhb> Ariakenom: Sure thing
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/8b6b9533ef8 (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/8b6b9533ef8 (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-unstable)
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<vyorkin> looks like the idris pkg is broken http://ix.io/1T1J
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<vyorkin> I'll double check with the latest master
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<Ariakenom> sphalerite: done. I can't find a link in there?
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<freeman[w]> srhb, is there any program used for editing these documentation files? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/tree/master/nixos/doc/manual
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<Ariakenom> sphalerite: nevermind im blind
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<srhb> freeman[w]: I just use my trusty vim.
<freeman[w]> oh no! so after followin the NixOS install instructions to the letter I run into this upon reboot and starting the X11: https://i.imgur.com/IjtP6Bb.png
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<freeman[w]> srhb, so the way to contribute to the docs is editing the XML?
<srhb> freeman[w]: afaik yes.
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<srhb> freeman[w]: Is that error in the installer or the installed system?
<freeman[w]> srhb, the installed system, after reboot from installation procedure
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut closed pull request #45430 → airwindows: init at 20-08-2018 → https://git.io/fAUn2
<srhb> freeman[w]: It just seems very weird that it's referencing /dev/sr0
<Ariakenom> I have run into more skype issues: fixed-output derivation produced path '/nix/store/c5y1...-skypeforlinux-64.deb' with sha256 hash '0c00...' instead of the expected hash '0mdq...'
<srhb> Ariakenom: Update the hash :)
<srhb> Ariakenom: And the version number too, presumably.
<Ariakenom> srhb: of what, where? :p I did update it for the download
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<srhb> Ariakenom: Search for the hash that it says was expected, and replace it with the one that it actually got :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #43376 → Google clasp → https://git.io/fNIZI
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed commit from @michojel to master « google-clasp: init at 2.2.1 (#43376) »: https://git.io/fjNTY
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<silver_hook> How can I set a user’s password when I `nixos-rebuild build-vm` and it automatically goes into SDDM?
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<Ariakenom> srhb: I did a find-sed in the cloned nixpkgs. that didn't fix it
<meck> hi, i have a install that gets stuck when doing 'nixos-rebuild switch' at 'setting up tmpfiles', doing 'nixos-rebuild boot' end rebooting works fine. Any idea of how to start trubleshooting? running with verbose dosent give any more info..
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjNTC
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<freeman[w]> where can I file a GitHub issue for a NixOS install problem?
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<zfnmxt> freeman[w]: I'm a noob, but is your question just where to place that let-statement?
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<yorick> how do I get the gcc from a pkgsCross in a shell.nix?
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<vika_nezrimaya> I accidentally launched tab completion on pkgsCross
<vika_nezrimaya> please pray for me :D
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<srhb> vika_nezrimaya: It's fiiiine. ;-)
<freeman[w]> zfnmxt, I got it figured out, nvm
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<srhb> Ariakenom: How are you trying to build it?
<freeman[w]> zfnmxt, so I would file NixOS issues in the nixpkgs repo? :-??
<srhb> Ariakenom: I'm assuming you have fixed the hash in your local checkout and you're doing something like: nix-build . -A skypeforlinux ?
<zfnmxt> freeman[w]: All the NixOS modules are also on that repo, so yeah.
<Ariakenom> srhb: yeah something like that.
<Ariakenom> I just had to swap to windows for some stuff right now :p
<srhb> Ariakenom: And you're positive the old hash doesn't exist in that repo anymore?
<Ariakenom> grep -r <hash> was empty
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @tobim opened pull request #67246 → qt48: Fix build for gcc8 → https://git.io/fjNT5
<freeman[w]> zfnmxt, ok, guess I will report the issue there then, cheers zfnmxt++
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<srhb> Ariakenom: And we're _positive_ you're using the checkout you corrected and not your regular nixpkgs? :)
<srhb> Ariakenom: I'm not sure how else it could happen..
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjNTh
<vika_nezrimaya> Why sometimes configureFlags / makeFlags arguments strings? It complicates some stuff. If it was always lists, some of my cross-compile fixes would be cleaner
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<Ariakenom> srhb: ill look at the commands in a bit
<srhb> vika_nezrimaya: They're passed as bash variables, which is kind of a limitation.
<srhb> (In a very generic fashion)
<srhb> The standard builder could be expanded to use the structured attributes, which in many cases could be quite nice..
<freeman[w]> I opened an issue for the NixOS install bug: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/67248
<{^_^}> #67248 (by razvan-panda, 19 seconds ago, open): NixOS install in VMWare VM print_req_error: I/O error
<vika_nezrimaya> nah, I mean type nix edit nixpkgs.apr and look at the argument. Why isn't configureFlags a list there, like with other packages?
<srhb> vika_nezrimaya: Oh. Hmm. Why does that make cross nicer?
<vika_nezrimaya> Because sometimes I need to inject different configureFlags depending on if we're cross-compiling (because ./configure is silly!)
<vika_nezrimaya> for example, with APR, I need to assure it that the target platform does indeed have /dev/zero
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<vika_nezrimaya> ac_cv_file_dev_zero=yes in configureFlags does the thing
<srhb> I don't think there's a particular problem with making a list, is there?
<vika_nezrimaya> but the resulting nix expression is very clunky and I don't like the fact that I need to insert a space at the beginning (in case we're cross-compiling for Darwin :3)
<vika_nezrimaya> srhb: why not make it always a list? I mean, it's better be proposed formally as an RFC maybe?
<vika_nezrimaya> but I want to discuss it here because I already filed two pull requests and in process of making a third one
<symphorien> vika_nezrimaya: it needs a new nix feature called structured attrs
<symphorien> Otherwise the nix list cannot be passed to the bash builder losslessly
<vika_nezrimaya> symphorien: and... maybe this is a dumb question, but which version of Nix introduces it?
<symphorien> Nix 2.something iirc
<symphorien> There is an open wip PR which switches to structured attrs
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<symphorien> But it does not even reach full bootstrap iirc
<chr15> Hey, does anyone here use ZNC with their IRC ?
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<gchristensen> I know infinisil does
<aanderse> chr15: i do... because infinisil suggested it
* DigitalKiwi uses znc
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* zfnmxt is also on ZNC :)
<DigitalKiwi> i even added a few znc modules to nixpkgs
<zfnmxt> Although I've been considering switching to Matrix, but I heard that the IRC bridges are jank
<aanderse> i keep hearing about this "matrix"
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<srhb> Everything is jank. Embrace the jank.
<aanderse> if its so good why are so many people on irc?
<srhb> aanderse: Risky approach :P
<aanderse> i've never used it, but it sounds like a good thing?
<gchristensen> aanderse: yeah the movie was good. a shame they only made one.
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<DigitalKiwi> gchristensen: oh boy have i got recent news for you
<Ariakenom> srhb: nix-env -f . -iA skypeforlinux
<gchristensen> :P
<aanderse> gchristensen: agreed. i'm also very glad to hear they aren't rebooting it.
<rnhmjoj> i'm writing a nixos option (an attrset) with default values that users are supposed to override. is there a way to `mkDefault` all the attributes without without writing this every time?
<Ariakenom> I just booted into an old profile. does that change configuration.nic or anything?
<zfnmxt> aanderse: I just set-up a matrix server. It's pretty neat. The answer to your question is probably just momentum.
<chr15> aandnrse: I'm having an issue trying to set it up. Could you help me out with it ?
<srhb> Ariakenom: The file itself? No.
<srhb> Ariakenom: Weird.
<chr15> aanderse: I'm having an issue trying to set it up. Could you help me out with it ?
<freeman[w]> srhb, which XML generates the install sections? https://nixos.org/nixos/manual/index.html#sec-installation
<vika_nezrimaya> I suppose I can't refer to $dev, $out and similar in configureFlags and have to put it via configureFlagsArray?
<srhb> rnhmjoj: Make a helper function?
<vika_nezrimaya> or can I?
<zfnmxt> Plus matrix has built-in end-to-end encryption and lets you talk to anyone on any server.
<srhb> freeman[w]: Look in installation.xml :)
<aanderse> chr15: i actually don't remember what i did at all, other than get frustrated and fallback to extremely minimal config (which i'm more than happy to share)
<srhb> freeman[w]: That's the TOC for that hole section.
<Ariakenom> srhb: yeah I didn't think it would. just wanted to ask
<rnhmjoj> srhb: uhm, i could mapAttrs mkDefault.
<zfnmxt> chr15: What's your issue?
<srhb> rnhmjoj: Sure.
<aanderse> zfnmxt: yeah, sounds good overall, too bad it isn't catching on (faster?)
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<zfnmxt> Yeah. Well, P2P chat solutions don't exactly have a successful history.
<rnhmjoj> srhb: thanks for the inspiration
<zfnmxt> Uh, brainfart, not P2P. Decentralized**
<chr15> zfnmxt: So I'm setting up the config file for znc using znc --makeconf, seems simple enough. My only issue is trying to open it in my web browser which is Chrome. Is there any particular port number that I should be using ? I've currently set the port number to be 1079.
<freeman[w]> srhb, can I run some XSDL validation or something on the XML after I make the changes or how do I know changes will work?
<freeman[w]> also is there some editor auto-complete support for the options?
<DigitalKiwi> zfnmxt: xmpp is pretty decent
<vika_nezrimaya> DigitalKiwi: I used to run a personal XMPP server - it's easy
<DigitalKiwi> yeah i had prosody setup for a long time
<zfnmxt> chr15: Why aren't you doing the config file declaratively?
<vika_nezrimaya> (used to - because I'm in process of switching my server to NixOS and that requires cross-compiling everything :3)
<chr15> zfnmxt: Also, I'm confused as to which IP address I should be using to open the ZNC web console. Do I use my public IP address with the port number ? Cause if so, I tried that and it wouldn't load.
<DigitalKiwi> vika_nezrimaya: yeah i moved my servers to nixos and never setup xmpp yet just znc :(
<chr15> zfnmxt: Sorry, but what do you mean by declaratively ?
<zfnmxt> chr15: Putting the config in configuration.nix using the options from `man configuration.nix`
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<chr15> zfnmxt: Oh I didn't realize you could do that
<Ariakenom> srhb: the files with the hash seem odd it's "pkgs/tools/text/catdoc/default.nix" and "pkgs/development/libraries/physics/lhapdf/pdf_sets.nix"
<chr15> zfnmxt: So znc is a service that can be enabled ?
<zfnmxt> I think it actually won't work the way you're doing it unless you set `services.znc.mutable = true;`
<DigitalKiwi> chr15: have you seen the nixos wiki for znc
<zfnmxt> Otherwise every rebuild will overwrite your config.
<srhb> Ariakenom: Transient dependency?
<zfnmxt> chr15: Yes, that's right.
<chr15> DigitalKiwi: I haven't actually, I think I'll go read that now.
<DigitalKiwi> the way i did it was i set it up with mutable = false and then i switched to mutable = true after it was most of the way setup
<srhb> Ariakenom: Which version of nixpkgs did you check out anyway? It's usually helpful to work from the same version you're on yourself.
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<chr15> DigitalKiwi: Do I add the services.znc block in my configuration.nix file ?
<DigitalKiwi> i put it in a separate file and import it in configuration.nix
<DigitalKiwi> (but you can do what you said)
<chr15> DigitalKiwi: What about the third block ? The one under Networks ? Can I put that in configuration.nix too ?
<DigitalKiwi> yes
<DigitalKiwi> all roads lead to configuration.nix
<Ariakenom> srhb: "git clone https://github.com/nixos/nixpkgs" :)
<DigitalKiwi> either directly or through imports
<chr15> zfnmxt: Oh you've created a separate file entirely ? And you've imported znc.nix in configuration.nix ?
<zfnmxt> chr15: No, I just had to title it something :P But you could of course do that.
<DigitalKiwi> (or default.nix but that's just complicating things)
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<DigitalKiwi> or home-manager
<DigitalKiwi> anyway, in general, the first statement is mostly true
<chr15> I use home-manager
<chr15> DigitalKiwi: How do I use it in home-manager ?
<DigitalKiwi> i don't use home-manager and i don't think you would/can for znc
<chr15> zfnmxt: Thanks for that.
<DigitalKiwi> just use configuration.nix or znc.nix import
<chr15> Oh
<zfnmxt> chr15: The way I constructed my ZNC config was just going through each of the options here: https://wiki.znc.in/Configuration and setting the corresponding value in the services.znc.config attribute set.
<chr15> DigitalKiwi: I think I'll import it.
<DigitalKiwi> i make liberal use of imports to make things more modular
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<chr15> DigitalKiwi: I had no idea that could be done but I do like the sound of that. I'll try out the import and see it it works fine.
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<chr15> Thanks guys.
<aanderse> i should really setup automatic garbage collection on my nixops server :\
<chr15> zfnmxt++
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<freeman[w]> srhb, what is the name of the format used by these XML documentation files? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/tree/master/nixos/doc/manual
<chr15> zfnmxt: How did you add the password to that file ?
<zfnmxt> chr15: I stole it from my old non-nixos config. But I believe znc will generate it for you with a certain command, let me look.
<freeman[w]> srhb, ah it is called DocBook
<zfnmxt> chr15: `nix-shell -p znc` and then `znc --makepass` should do it.
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<chr15> zfnmxt: After importing that znc.nix in configuration.nix, what are the znc services required to be enabled ?
<zfnmxt> chr15: Like, what dependencies does it have or something?
<chr15> Yes
<zfnmxt> You just need `services.znc.enable = true`.
<freeman[w]> SlickEdit and Docbook can do XML editing of those DocBook NixOS install files but they are all paid products :/
<chr15> zfnmxt: Oh sweet
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<freeman[w]> what was the Nix command to get the description of a what a package does?
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<asymmetric> would it be possible to package the different parts of libreoffice separately?
<asymmetric> rn it's a huge ~600MB download
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<chr15> zfnmxt: In that znc.nix file, user.Zfnmxt, is that your IRC nick or your NixOS username ?
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<vika_nezrimaya> asymmetric: AFAIK no distribution I know provides such an option
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<chr15> zfnmxt: Because I don't see that Nick option to add the IRC nick
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<vika_nezrimaya> asymmetric: I stand corrected
<freeman[w]> could anyone package this with Nix? haha http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/thotbook/
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<zfnmxt> freeman[w]: Uh, `nix-env -qa --description <package>` maybe?
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<zfnmxt> chr15: Neither, it's the ZNC user.
<chr15> zfnmxt: Oh okay
<exarkun> asymmetric: So what do you really mean when you ask "would it be possible"?
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<zfnmxt> chr15: I'd log-in to the web interface with that username. ZNC works as a bouncer for multiple different users, so you have to specify a username.
<asymmetric> exarkun: i don't know how much work it would be. maybe there's a very good reason why it isn't done that way
<zfnmxt> (I could've chosen something other than `zfnmxt`)
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<chr15> zfnmxt: Why have you disabled those channels ?
<gchristensen> freeman[w]: oh cool
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<chr15> zfnmxt: Nevermind, I read it wrong
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<zfnmxt> chr15: According to the docs `Disabled = true` is the default, so you gotta enable them all explicitly.
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<freeman[w]> gchristensen, what is cool? hehe
<gchristensen> freeman[w]: thotbook
<zfnmxt> chr15: You could actually just do it all with `builtins.mapAttrs` if you want to be fancier than me :)
<duckfullstop> clever: re your qemu overlay; I’ve been reading through the channel logs and note that a few people are having the same default_library double declaration thing that I am; are you planning to merge a fix, or is it not quite as simple as just not adding that extra argument in your overlay?
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<chr15> zfnmxt: I am a newbie in NixOS so I would have no idea how to use it. Also, I tried rebuilding the configuration.nix file but I'm getting an error saying that there is an unexpected '=' in the first line of znc.nix
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<zfnmxt> chr15: I'm guessing because you forgot to place it inside of a services = { } block? (I didn't include that in the gist)
<zfnmxt> You could just change znc to services.znc too.
<{^_^}> [nix] @TheSirC opened pull request #3052 → docs: Fix formatting of aws commands → https://git.io/fjNIC
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<freeman[w]> gchristensen, I downloaded thoteditor and I have no idea how to run it though
<chr15> zfnmxt: Oh I didn't, thanks
<freeman[w]> maybe that is why no-one packaged it haha
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<zfnmxt> chr15: btw, you'll need to create a certificate for automatic nickserv identification. See here: https://wiki.znc.in/Cert
<chr15> zfnmxt: I'm still getting the same error even after adding services
<zfnmxt> chr15: Can you put your config file on a gist?
<chr15> zfnmxt: Okay
<{^_^}> [nix] @gleber opened pull request #3053 → Drop Store::addToStore taking a string. → https://git.io/fjNIM
<eyJhb> aanderse: #63634 seems cool! I can hopefully test this during my next semester
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/63634 (by aanderse, 8 weeks ago, open): moodle: init at 3.7.1
<freeman[w]> how do you get gnumake executable installed and on the path? I installed gnumake package and it did not appear
<zfnmxt> freeman[w]: the binary is called `make` not `gnumake`.
<vika_nezrimaya> freeman[w]: You don't compile programs on NixOS without Nix. Why do you need gnumake?
<freeman[w]> zfnmxt, but but... https://i.imgur.com/t2Vuoap.png
<vika_nezrimaya> (as for why - it will break on next update of dependencies and garbage collection of the previous generation)
<vika_nezrimaya> (if it will work at all)
<freeman[w]> vika_nezrimaya, "You don't compile programs on NixOS without Nix." stop telling people what to do :/
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<vika_nezrimaya> sorry if it sounded harsh
<vika_nezrimaya> >.<
<gchristensen> domenkozar[m]: oh interesting, I didn't realize herculese forked nixpkgs-fmt
<zfnmxt> chr15: Curly brace at line 162 has to go below line 241
<freeman[w]> vika_nezrimaya, well, first, you made a wrong assumption. I am using Nix but not NixOS, I'm using Ubuntu on WSL
<gchristensen> domenkozar[m]: also, great post :D
<freeman[w]> and second compiling stuff when you don't have a choice is fine
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<domenkozar[m]> gchristensen: we didn't fork it :O
<domenkozar[m]> gchristensen: thanks!
<gchristensen> oh, I'm confused
<zfnmxt> freeman[w]: All I can tell you is that `gnumake` on my system only has a single binary in its /bin, namely `make`
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<gchristensen> I thought zimbatm sponsored https://github.com/nix-community/nixpkgs-fmt/'s initial development
<vika_nezrimaya> freeman[w]: but it's better to write a Nix expression! Most programs you build with ./configure && make && make install wil build with Nix with you only specifying the name and where to fetch the source from
<domenkozar[m]> gchristensen: canonix was also sponsored by Jonas originally, but it uses a different approach
<gchristensen> ohhh cool
<chr15> zfnmxt: I've imported that znc.nix into configuration.nix
<vika_nezrimaya> (it's ok if it doesn't have a ./configure script, it will skip that step)
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<domenkozar[m]> nixpkgs-fmt uses rust parsing, canonix uses tree-sitter-nix
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<domenkozar[m]> nixpkgs-fmt is honestly more mature at this stage.
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<gchristensen> ahh gotcha
<domenkozar[m]> I just added the hooks we use, I should mention it's not supposed to be an endorsement
<gchristensen> I'd just leave it :P
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<gchristensen> it is so good to have them out there. I hope in the end to settle on one as a community, but in the mean time the work is so good
<ejpcmac> Hi! Is there a reason why network interfaces don’t use predictable names on the Raspberry Pi?
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<jophish_> Should one be using nixos containers for everything?
<freeman[w]> vika_nezrimaya, "but it's better to write a Nix expression!" DOH! and "and second compiling stuff when you don't have a choice is fine" <- I did say this
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<zfnmxt> chr15: Oh, derp. Wasn't paying close attention. You just need to put curly braces around the whole expression.
<freeman[w]> domenkozar[m], that is pretty cool. Most probably going to end up using it. Just thinking that at commit time might be a bit late, hmmm. Although better than never
<zfnmxt> chr15: i.e. put a { at the top of znc.nix and a } at the bottom
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<Ariakenom> srhb: actually ... should I just update my nixpkgs version?
<aanderse> eyJhb: sounds good, thanks :)
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<Ariakenom> if you remember my struggle at all :D
<monotux> anyone using ipv6 on a hosthatch.com kvm vps? I can't make it work. I have another vps setup with hetzner without issues.
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<freeman[w]> srhb, I'm sorry, will contribute to the install documentation another time, the XML is making my head hurt and I could not find or build any DocBook editor :(
<gchristensen> freeman[w], srhb: oh! what editor do you typically use? also, what are you trying to contribute?
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<freeman[w]> gchristensen, I want to update the NixOS installation documentation to be more clear
<das_j> is there a way I can pass a parameter only if it's expected? I'm calling a lambda and I don't know if it will take that parameter or not
<freeman[w]> gchristensen, I use any editor that allows me to do my job. I would take ANY DocBook editor but I can't find any
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<gchristensen> freeman[w]: I use emacs with nxml, what editor do you typically use?
<infinisil> > lib.functionArgs ({ x, y }: x + y) # das_j
<{^_^}> { x = false; y = false; }
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @grahamc opened pull request #298 → docs: show <command>s as monospaced → https://git.io/fjNLv
<infinisil> > let f = { x, y }: x + y; in f (builtins.intersectAttrs (lib.functionArgs f) { x = 1; y = 2; z = 3; })
<das_j> thanks!
<{^_^}> 3
<freeman[w]> gchristensen, I use whichever editor works best for the task as hand
<freeman[w]> anyway, I found 2 paid products and 1 of them has a trial
<gchristensen> Oxygen?
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<freeman[w]> gchristensen, Oxygen, SlickEdit XML Mind, Editix
<gchristensen> yeah, oxygen is pretty nice. I use it sometimes, but almost all the time I choose to use emacs with nxml. also, if you have an editor you typically use for other tasks, I might be able to make suggestions on how to configure it to work with Docbook nicely. However, since you don't have an editor you typically, use, I won't.
<chr15> zfnmxt: Built successfully and added the password too :)
<chr15> zfnmxt: So the next step is to generate the cert ?
<Izorkin> teto: need to share my custom nixops config?
<zfnmxt> chr15: Yeah, do that.
<freeman[w]> gchristensen, anyway, I am in business https://i.imgur.com/ICK5dDq.png this thing also sees some DocBook errors
<freeman[w]> gchristensen, Oxygen is paid though right?
<gchristensen> it is paid
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<gchristensen> those errors go away during processing, a paid editor would probably understand what is happening there and not complain about those errors
<gchristensen> (in other words, you can safely ignore them :))
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<chr15> zfnmxt: Do I start the znc service or generate the cert first ?
<multun> heyo o/ quick question, how can you get both clang and gcc in the same env, where cc links to gcc ? I get a `collision between...`, and (lib.lowPrio clang) doesn't work
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<multun> I think that's because cc is in clang-wrapper, and not directly in clang
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<zfnmxt> chr15: Cert first I guess, but you can always restart ZNC.
<chr15> zfnmxt: I'm asking because I see the user.pem in the command which I assume is created only after the znc config file is generated ?
<freeman[w]> gchristensen, wait... so they are not errors? damn, I need to revert "fixing" them then :(
<zfnmxt> chr15: user.pem is the output file from openssl, ZNC doesn't make it
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<gchristensen> freeman[w]: they are not errors :)
<chr15> zfnmxt: Oh, I just read that
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<freeman[w]> gchristensen, bbbbbut they even call them errors: https://i.imgur.com/baqRIPU.png
<gchristensen> I don't know why the program thinks they are errors, but they are not :)
<chr15> zfnmxt: Will that be saved in the current directory ?
<freeman[w]> gchristensen, why do the instructions I am looking at: https://i.imgur.com/XrpFPvv.png look different than what is in the documentation: https://nixos.org/nixos/manual/index.html#sec-installation ?
<zfnmxt> chr15: From the commandon the Cert page on the wiki?
<chr15> zfnmxt: Ye
<chr15> zfnmxt: Yea
<gchristensen> freeman[w]: what git version have you checked out?
<zfnmxt> chr15: the output is whatever file comes after `-out`. Their example will put `user.pem` into the current directory, but you can specify as well: `-out /home/znc/.znc/....`
<freeman[w]> gchristensen, master
<gchristensen> freeman[w]: it looks like you have downloaded an old version of master, as the version you are editing is from before Oct 1 2018
<freeman[w]> gchristensen, how could have I possibly downloaded an old version of master if I git cloned today?
<gchristensen> that is a question I wonder as well :) where did you clone from?
<scoates> having trouble installing `ngrok`; it's complaining with `patchelf: not an ELF executable`. There's nothing obvious in the issue tracker. Any suggestions where to go with this? https://paste.website/p/d9be0268-b15b-47ce-a121-65477cfcfa2d.txt
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<chr15> zfnmxt: That directory doesn't exist so I'm assuming that one will be created ?
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<freeman[w]> gchristensen, nvm, when I forked on GitHub it must have not forked and kept my old fork :/
<gchristensen> ah
<jophish_> Has anyone seen anything like this before when building an sd card image? https://gist.github.com/710f8053251bd85dd2034cebded60711
<zfnmxt> chr15: Yeah but you can just go ahead and make it and place the cert in, I think.
<jophish_> "Value too large for defined data type" when trying to load the ext4 image
<zfnmxt> chr15: Or start up znc to see if it makes the directory structure for you. Doesn't really matter.
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<thefloweringash> jophish_: if you’re still following my notes the hack at the bottom was to get around that. When I tried, the contents still fit in 2g, but the calculated size was > 2g, so I forced the size to the limit and figured I’d get an error later if it was insufficient.
<jophish_> thefloweringash: ah, this was actually independent of your notes!
<jophish_> I'll take another look, thanks!
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<thefloweringash> scoates: what channel / version are you on?
<{^_^}> [nix] @TheSirC closed pull request #3052 → docs: Fix formatting of aws commands → https://git.io/fjNIC
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #63780 → pythonPackage.foxdot: init at 0.8.1 → https://git.io/fjrgX
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjNLK
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #67218 → ocamlPackage.cohttp: 2.0.0 -> 2.1.3 → https://git.io/fjbFG
<scoates> thefloweringash: is this what you're looking for? https://paste.website/p/ee521bbd-fe94-462f-b86b-99d312b1af57.txt (it's Darwin/MacOS 10.15 beta)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/fjNLM
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<chr15> zfnmxt: So I've used this command to start the service: sudo systemctl enable znc --now, but I got the following error: https://pastebin.com/TQFq8Yxr
<Ariakenom> srhb: I updated nixpkgs version and managed to build skype! such progress
<chr15> zfnmxt: Also, I've generated the cert. No issues there.
<Ariakenom> but I ran into an error. im unsure I used the correct skype.deb link too
<jophish_> thefloweringash: nixos-unstable
<jophish_> oh, sorry I misread scoates as jophish
<scoates> happens all the time⸮
<jophish_> unrelated: is there a way to force nix to use a substituter, even for a package which says 'preferlocalbuild'?
<zfnmxt> chr15: `systemctl restart znc.service`
<jophish_> in this case this package is not buildable on x86, yet my x86 computer refuses to fetch it from the cache where it is built
<Ariakenom> /home/patrik/.nix-profile/bin/skypeforlinux: error while loading shared libraries: libuuid.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #67055 → unifiStable: 5.10.25 -> 5.10.26 → https://git.io/fjbTX
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjNLN
<{^_^}> [patchelf] @iv-m opened pull request #180 → Fixes for MIPS binaries → https://git.io/fjNLA
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<vika_nezrimaya> can Hydra serve as a binary cache itself? it doesn't seem to do so on hydra.nixos.org, giving a funny error ("There is no binary cache here.")
<chr15> zfnmxt: Job for znc.service failed because the control process exited with error code.
<chr15> See "systemctl status znc.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
<thefloweringash> scoates: almost, `nix-info` will show the version of the channel. it builds for me on current nixpkgs-unstable, and it was fixed on Darwin fairly recently (late July, #65319). maybe try updating your channels?
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/65319 (by nicknovitski, 4 weeks ago, merged): ngrok: fix build on darwin
<gchristensen> vika_nezrimaya: hydra.nixos.org does not serve a binary cache. everything built by hydra.nixos.org ends up in cache.nixos.org
<zfnmxt> chr15: Something's wrong with your config, then. Look in journalctl for an error.
<scoates> that's probably it, thefloweringash; I'll try updating. thanks.
<vika_nezrimaya> gchristensen: I know. But can Hydra (as in self-hosted software) serve a binary cache?
<gchristensen> vika_nezrimaya: I believe it can
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<scoates> (I don't seem to have a nix-info … )
<gchristensen> nix-shell -p nix-info --run "nix-info" :)
<zfnmxt> chr15: Would also probably be useful to paste the output of `nix-instantiate --eval --strict '<nixpkgs/nixos>' -A config.services.znc.config`
<zfnmxt> chr15: Remember to remove the hash/salt before you do, though.
<scoates> thanks (-:
* scoates is the "I don't know what I'm doing dog" (-:
* zfnmxt is also
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<chr15> zfnmxt: Here's my jounalctl logs: https://pastebin.com/E1A1wNwE
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<freeman[w]> gchristensen, uhm, so I got a 30 days Oxygen trial... guess I better make any NixOS documentation updates ASAP haha
<zfnmxt> chr15: I think adding `users.users.znc.createHome = true;` to your config should fix that
<scoates> thefloweringash: channel update did indeed work. thanks for taking the time, despite my lack of diligence.
<chr15> zfnmxt: Here's my nix-instantiate logs: https://pastebin.com/tSGg4Epf
<chr15> zfnmxt: The hash/salt were already removed when I ran the command
<zfnmxt> chr15: Uh, did you not insert the hash/salt from running `znc --makepass`?
<zfnmxt> The "removed" bit in znc.nix was my edit because I didn't want to share my password hash with the world, it supposed to be an actual hash.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #66969 → libvisio: 0.1.6 -> 0.1.7 → https://git.io/fjF9N
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<chr15> zfnmxt: No, I didn't
<chr15> zfnmxt: Where do I add it ?
<zfnmxt> chr15: In the Pass.password = { } block
<zfnmxt> chr15: Should look something like Hash = "b5bb9d8014a0f9b1d61e21e796d78dccdf1352f23cd32812f4850b878ae4944c"
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<zfnmxt> Need to add the salt as well.
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<chr15> zfnmxt: I've added it but I'm getting the 'unexpected =' syntax error once again :/
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<zfnmxt> chr15: It should've been just a direct substitution of "removed" for the hash.
<zfnmxt> Just undo the edit and try again I think
<chr15> zfnmxt: I figured it out
<exarkun> confused about this nixops / nixpkgs interaction: https://gist.github.com/exarkun/9ad9ca340c331939c73a8d4f1ef944b2
<chr15> zfnmxt: I forgot to end the statements with ;
<chr15> zfnmxt: I've rebuilt it now
<zfnmxt> I do that all the time because I'm used to a
<zfnmxt> programming language with option semicolons
<zfnmxt> optional*
<zfnmxt> Anyway, hopefully it works now.
<chr15> zfnmxt: Still not working after restarting the service :/ Same error
<chr15> zfnmxt: It feels like a pipe dream now trying to get this to work
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<zfnmxt> chr15: Maybe it'd be better to query me (/query zfnmxt) so we don't clog up this channel so much.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @razvan-panda opened pull request #67261 → Clarifications to NixOS installation steps → https://git.io/fjNtF
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<freeman[w]> gchristensen, there we go: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/67261
<{^_^}> #67261 (by razvan-panda, 17 seconds ago, open): Clarifications to NixOS installation steps
<freeman[w]> maybe another time I will add instructions on how to set up the partitions using GParted
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<gchristensen> freeman[w]: wow, this is great!
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<eyJhb> aanderse: but I have no clue when. But basically my next semester will be using Moodle for our project..
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<freeman[w]> I added a user via the configuration.nix and I forgot to set a password for it. Upon reboot I don't know how to log in as that user since I do not know what password he has by default
<NfixEstrada[m]> Hello! I'm trying to add a beets plugin. It seems that the plugin itself is derived correctly, but the beets package itself fails: https://paste.ofcode.org/4CBgc8b4GJ4dGzEqx9C6BY
<NfixEstrada[m]> Thanks!
<eyJhb> freeman[w]: sudo?
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<freeman[w]> I do not know what happened but upon reboot the user I created disappeared and I got booted without GUI :( https://i.imgur.com/0rKGgSC.png
<freeman[w]> how do I get NixOS to boot to terminal instead of to the GUI log in screen?
<eyJhb> freeman[w]: isn't that the installer?
<freeman[w]> ok, I got it, needed to press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and that opened a terminal
<freeman[w]> eyJhb, it was, dunno why it booted it for some reason
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/3d91781151e (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/3d91781151e (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-unstable)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dasJ opened pull request #67262 → evdi: Unbreak on Linux 5.2 and lower → https://git.io/fjNql
<shazow> is there a convenient way to override the "nix-shell:" prompt prefix in nix-shells?
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<das_j> under what URL can I find the hound installation?
<das_j> gchristensen:
<gchristensen> search.nix.gsc.io
<das_j> thanks :)
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @grahamc merged pull request #298 → docs: show <command>s as monospaced → https://git.io/fjNLv
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @grahamc pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjNqE
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<scoates> I'm working on updating a package. I have a local `default.nix` that I'd like to test out. Can someone point me at documentation that describes how I should go about doing this? It's hard to search for this, but I'm willing to read.
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<chr15> zfnmxt++
<{^_^}> zfnmxt's karma got increased to 3
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pacien opened pull request #67263 → exim: add SPF support (+ init libspf2 at 1.2.10) → https://git.io/fjNqA
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<hyperfekt> scoates: The most common process is to have a fork of nixpkgs, where the changed default.nix lies and which you test using `nix-build [path to fork] -A [package attribute]`.
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<scoates> thanks. that's helpful.
<hyperfekt> scoates: iirc there's also documentation about this but i don't remember where :/
<scoates> yeah; I'm also having trouble finding something like that
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<scoates> thanks!
<Notkea[m]> btw, is there a short way to override an input parameter when using `nix-build -A somePackage`?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg opened pull request #67264 → deluge: 1.3.15 -> 2.0.3 [WIP] → https://git.io/fjNmT
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<hyperfekt> Notkea[m]: Define short. I'd use nix-build -E '(import ./. {}).[package].override { ... }'
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<Notkea[m]> a shortcut for that… I guess it's short enough though, thanks!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @praetorg opened pull request #67266 → gevent-websocket enable python3 → https://git.io/fjNmi
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<vmandela> gchristensen, pinging on https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/2946
<{^_^}> nix#2946 (by vmandela, 9 weeks ago, open): installer: handle network proxy in systemd multi-user install
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<gchristensen> see-no-evil.jpg
<gchristensen> +1
<vmandela> gchristensen, PR looks OK ? needs to go through CI ?
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<freedan42x> while following stack installation guide: https://paste2.org/sIPJaYtU
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<DigitalKiwi> zfnmxt: did chr15 get znc working?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @scoates opened pull request #67267 → aws-sam-cli: update requests dependency to 2.22.0 → https://git.io/fjNmp
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<akamaus> cache.nixos.org resolves to 52.85.184.168 for me and doesnt respond to pings.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @michaelpj opened pull request #67268 → kernel: set POWERCAP and INTEL_RAPL → https://git.io/fjNYI
<gchristensen> akamaus: okay, are you having trouble?
<Zer0xp> DigitalKiwi: chr15 here, well I didn't realize the usage of znc until the very end when zfnmxt got it to work for me using tmate.
<DigitalKiwi> that's good
<Zer0xp> I was under the assumption that it could be used to mask our IP addresses over here.
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<exarkun> confused about this nixops / nixpkgs interaction, why isn't nixpkgs on the system changed? https://gist.github.com/exarkun/9ad9ca340c331939c73a8d4f1ef944b2
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<gchristensen> confusingly, nixops does not transfer the channel version over
<gchristensen> one sec
<exarkun> mmm interesting
<exarkun> That won't make nixpkgs on the target match `-I nixpkgs=foo` passed to `nixops create/deploy` though right? It will build packages from `foo` but then make nixpkgs on the target just be whatever nixpkgs is on the nixops host?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @kolaente opened pull request #67269 → gitea: 1.9.1 -> 1.9.2 → https://git.io/fjNYR
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<exarkun> but maybe I see how that idea can be used to get the same behavior. thanks
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<gchristensen> that will
<gchristensen> exarkun: that will make the target servers <nixpkgS> match the -I nixpkgs
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @greizgh opened pull request #67270 → seafile-client: Use qt5's mkDerivation → https://git.io/fjNYz
<exarkun> Hm. Can you help me see how? It looks like it will make the target server's <nixpkgs> match the origin's /run/current-system/nixpkgs
<exarkun> I wouldn't think /run/current-system/nixpkgs would necessarily match the -I
<gchristensen> heh
<gchristensen> no
<gchristensen> one sec
<exarkun> Oh ... the symlink?
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<gchristensen> ln -sv ${pkgs.path} $out/nixpkgs <- this puts nixpkgs at what will become /run/current-system/nixpkgs on the target server
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<gchristensen> "nixpkgs=/run/current-system/nixpkgs" adds it to the Nix path. (this indirection makes it so that you can upgrade nixpkgs without a full reboot)
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<gchristensen> does that make sense?
<exarkun> I think so
<gchristensen> cool
<Guest7109> I changed the derivation for strongswan, which my network-manager service transitively depends on through the networking.networkManager.enableStrongSwan option, and rebuilt my system. I see strongswan being recompiled, but the network-manager.service unit still points to the old derivation. Is there something special about network-manager that prevents it from picking up the change?
<exarkun> that seems very useful, yea. thank you :)
<infinisil> Guest7109: How did you change it?
<infinisil> Well the answer to your question is "No, there's nothing special about network-manager that would prevent it from working"
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<Izorkin> teto: really add this patch? https://pastebin.com/xTa0yyBV It works fine for me
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill closed pull request #67142 → solarus: 1.6.0 -> 1.6.1 → https://git.io/fjbEM
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @grahamc merged pull request #67267 → aws-sam-cli: update requests dependency to 2.22.0 → https://git.io/fjNmp
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @grahamc pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjNYN
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<Guest23770> hi! what's the proper way of putting an application on the path for another application installed by nixos (not in nix-env!)?
<iqubic> How can one verify if direnv is working in their shell?
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<clever> duckfullstop: i was working on a fix, then got distracted, i'll have another look at it
<ToxicFrog> Guest23770: do you need it in $PATH or just to refer to it in a script or config file or the like?
<Guest23770> ToxicFrog: sorry about the nick firstup... have to check why my nickserv is broken...
<ToxicFrog> If the latter, just write ${name-of-other-package}/bin/whatever inside a string and it'll expand to the path of the package (and automatically cause it to be installed if necessary)
<Guest23770> ToxicFrog: specific use case: I have vscode installed via home-manager and want it to have the elixir binary available.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #67271 → solarus{,-quest-editor}: 1.6.0 -> 1.6.2 → https://git.io/fjNOT
<Guest23770> so that plugins etc. can call it.
<Guest7109> infinisil: added a flag to configureFlags
<ToxicFrog> I'm not familiar with home-manager, but if you can change things so that vscode is launched as `nix-shell -p elixir --run vscode` that should do it, I think; alternately you could just install elixir by adding it to systemPackages and it'll be in your $PATH automatically.
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<Guest23770> ToxicFrog: will try that. thx
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<Guest7109> infinisil: added a flag to configureFlags
<Guest7109> damn, sorry for the repeat
<Guest7109> UDP joke anyone?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ttuegel merged pull request #67245 → kde: multiple staging fixes → https://git.io/fjNT7
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ttuegel pushed 5 commits to staging-next: https://git.io/fjNO3
<infinisil> Guest7109: That's *what* you changed, but not *how
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<Guest7109> infinisil: true. i edited the derivation in my local repo that is pointed to by nixpkgs= in $NIX_PATH
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #67272 → dhcpcd: 8.0.2 -> 8.0.3 → https://git.io/fjNOc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar merged pull request #67256 → celluloid: 0.16 → 0.17 → https://git.io/fjNIQ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjNOl
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #67273 → tor: 0.4.0.5 -> 0.4.1.5 → https://git.io/fjNO8
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<Guest7109> infinisil: does that answer your question, or were you asking for a diff?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #67274 → arping: 2.19 -> 2.20 → https://git.io/fjNOR
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<infinisil> Yeah that does answer my question, but I don't know what the problem could be, so a diff might help indeed
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #67275 → yubikey-manager-qt: 1.1.2 -> 1.1.3 → https://git.io/fjNOE
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #67276 → yubikey-manager: 2.1.1 -> 3.1.0 → https://git.io/fjNOz
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<infinisil> Guest7109: Okay so that looks fine, what do you expect this to do exactly and how did you diagnose it not doing that?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #67277 → vale: 1.4.3 -> 1.7.1, buildGoModule → https://git.io/fjNOr
<Guest7109> infinisil: I expect it to link network-manager to the newly build derivation (which I observed being compiled in the output of nixos-rebuild switch). I observe that this has not occured in the output of 'systemctl status network-manager.service', where under 'CGroup', it still has the path to an old derivation of strongswan that was built without the added flag
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #67278 → python3Packages.nltk: 3.4.4 -> 3.4.5 (security) → https://git.io/fjNOK
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #67279 → libheif: 1.4.0 -> 1.5.0 → https://git.io/fjNOP
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #67280 → fortune: 2.6.2 -> 2.10.0, use official tarball → https://git.io/fjNOS
<infinisil> Guest7109: It seems that the only thing this option does is to add `pkgs.networkmanager-strongswan` to `systemd.packages`
<infinisil> So probably there will be a `networkmanager-strongswan.service` unit
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<Guest7109> infinisil: I don't think so (there is no such unit). from what I understand, it looks like it's adding pkgs.networkmanager-strongswan (a nm plugin) to network-manager's packages. pkgs.networkmanager-strongswan, in turn, depends on the strongswanNM derivation, which is what I added the flag to
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #67282 → boost171: init at 1.71.0 → https://git.io/fjNOx
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/7305796f85c (from 38 minutes ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #67237 → osslsigncode: init at unstable-2019-07-25 → https://git.io/fjNvr
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjNOh
<infinisil> Guest7109: What exact nixpkgs version are you using?
<Guest7109> infinisil: channels/nixos-19.03
<infinisil> I mean which commit
<Guest7109> infinisil: I understand now what you mean by 'add to systemd.packages'
<Guest7109> infinisil: ec2cacb15ef9a74e38876def980efdd3f35808e2
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<infinisil> Yeah so it seems to add networkmanager_strongswan to `networking.networkmanager.packages`, which in turn get added to `systemd.packages` (which is used for adding packages .service files) and `services.udev.packages`
<infinisil> And it also adds `strongswanNM` to dbus.packages
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nlewo merged pull request #67242 → minikube: restore kvm2 plugin → https://git.io/fjNJv
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nlewo pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/fjN3e
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gloaming opened pull request #67284 → (compilers): add version and pname → https://git.io/fjN3J
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<Guest7109> infinisil: i just removed the enableStrongSwan option alltogether and rebuilt my system, yet the networkmanager unit did not change at all
<akamaus> @gchristensen, sort of. Because cache is down for me, I'm not able to install packages. nix-env responds with >>> warning: unable to download 'https://cache.nixos.org/2r81fijs2k7ix9w3c0ws4qk3v84r39iy.narinfo': Timeout was reached (28); retrying in 322 ms
<gchristensen> akamaus: oh interesting
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<gchristensen> akamaus: for whatever reason the IP you have for cache.nixos.org is extremely out of date, maybe your hosts file has an override?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill closed pull request #66708 → openssh: 7.9p1 -> 8.0p1 → https://git.io/fjdgF
<gchristensen> "168.184.85.52.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer server-52-85-184-168.fra2.r.cloudfront.net." and cache.nixos.org hasn't pointed to cloudfront since October of 2018
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<akamaus> gchristensen: you're right, I completely forgot I fixed it some time ago. Because some other addresses were blocked by authorities in Russia.
<gchristensen> ahh
<akamaus> I found workaround btw, just pass " --option build-use-substitutes false" to nix-env :)
<infinisil> Guest7109: Yeah that's as expected, because the networkmanager unit doesn't depend on it
<infinisil> Guest7109: As I said before, enableStrongSwan only adds some stuff to systemd.packages, it doesn't modify the network-manager unit
<Guest7109> infinisil: i see. does systemd implement it's own dependency reolution mechanism?
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<infinisil> Yeah, but in this case it's probably networkmanager that finds the strongswan thing in its own way, no idea how that works
<Guest7109> for some reason, there still is a running charon-nm process though
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #67287 → bash_5: 5.0p7 -> 5.0p9 → https://git.io/fjN33
<Guest7109> ok, just killed the process
<Guest7109> then tried to connect again
<Guest7109> looks like the process gets started by connecting to the vpn, and then just sticks around
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<Guest7109> but now it's a different derivation
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #67288 → xmind: fix mimeType, xscheme-handler -> x-scheme-handler → https://git.io/fjN3n
<Guest7109> and it's doing EAP-TLS stuff now
<Guest7109> first time in a long time when rebooting would have fixed my issue, lol
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #67289 → libcbor: 2019-02-23 -> 2019-07-25 → https://git.io/fjN3C
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 opened pull request #67290 → dlib: 19.16 -> 19.17 → https://git.io/fjN34
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #67207 → freetalk: fixed cross-compilation → https://git.io/fjb9c
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjN3B
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #67291 → gengetopt: 2.22.6 -> 2.23 → https://git.io/fjN30
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<Guest7109> infinisil: thanks for taking the time and helping with this!
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<infinisil> :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb merged pull request #66720 → kubeless: init at 1.0.4 → https://git.io/fjdKc
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu merged pull request #67269 → gitea: 1.9.1 -> 1.9.2 → https://git.io/fjNYR
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<jlv> Does anyone here know how to get the url for a rpm package given the baseurl? (so I can fetchurl it)
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<slabity> jlv: Depends on the source
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<jlv> slabity: It's a third party repository
<slabity> jlv: Depends on the repository. I don't think there's a specific URL format
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pacien opened pull request #67293 → riot-{web,desktop}: 1.3.0 -> 1.3.3 → https://git.io/fjNst
<jlv> slabity: Do you know how I can find out the url format? The package manager must have some way to figure it out.
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<slabity> jlv: Well rpm packages are generally hidden behind yum or whatever other frontend you
<jlv> Ya, I mean how yum or whatever tool finds out where the package is
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bachp opened pull request #67294 → gitlab-runner: 12.1.0 -> 12.2.0 → https://git.io/fjNsO
<slabity> Not sure. Is it possible to use yum directly?
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<aswanson_> is there a good way to use a shell other than bash when running `nix-shell shell.nix`?
<Yaniel> what is the correct way to make things that need the gl driver work nowadays?
<Yaniel> renderdoc breaks due to not being able to find libnvidia-spirv or something
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<jlv> slabity: I think I figured it out. According to this (https://help.sonatype.com/repomanager2/rpm-packages-and-yum-repositories), you can find the metadata at ${baseurl}/repodata/repomd.xml
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<ashkitten> aswanson_: any-nix-shell
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<aminechikhaoui> ,locate libnl-3.so
<{^_^}> Found in packages: python27Packages.libnl-python
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<ryantrinkle> aristid: hey, if you have a few minutes, it'd be good to talk about https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/66689
<{^_^}> #66689 (by ryantrinkle, 1 week ago, open): wireguard: allow routes to overlap with other routes
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<bkchr> Hey, can someone help me with `node2nix`?
<bkchr> I does not generate `d.ts` for devDependencies
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer opened pull request #67296 → acpica-tools: 20190703 -> 20190816 → https://git.io/fjNsP
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #67288 → xmind: fix mimeType, xscheme-handler -> x-scheme-handler → https://git.io/fjN3n
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjNsX
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @volth opened pull request #67297 → graalvm8-ee: 19.1.1 -> 19.2.0 → https://git.io/fjNs1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace closed pull request #61105 → teamviewer: Build with latest qt5 → https://git.io/fjcgT
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #67293 → riot-{web,desktop}: 1.3.0 -> 1.3.3 → https://git.io/fjNst
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<recj> i added the python package i needed and did `sudo nixos-rebuild switch` but it seems i can't import it... is there anything else I need to do?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bachp opened pull request #67298 → plex: 1.16.4.1469 -> 1.16.5.1488 → https://git.io/fjNs5
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<emptyfl4sk> I'm banging my head against the wall trying to use nix for a rails (v5.2) app -- keep getting `cannot load such file -- ubygems` for some reason when I run `rails c`. using ruby 2.5.5p157 (2019-03-15) [x86_64-darwin17], rubygems v2.7.6.2, bundler v1.17.2, bundix v2.4.1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @malob opened pull request #67299 → vimPlugins.coc-nvim: 0.0.73 -> 0.0.74 → https://git.io/fjNsF
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace closed pull request #67129 → riot-web: 1.3.0 -> 1.3.2 → https://git.io/fjbR6
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @t184256 opened pull request #67300 → omegat: 4.1.5.2 -> 4.3.0 → https://git.io/fjNsA
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<emptyfl4sk> and if I only use bundix, I can't run bin/rails or bin/webpack-dev-server, etc.
<mgdm> Hey. Anyone using Flask? I'm getting the error from https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/42924 with python 3.7, and the suggested workaround isn't helping me. Just wondering if anyone else had seen it
<{^_^}> #42924 (by AntonyBrand, 1 year ago, closed): Flask doesn't work with nix-shell
<manveru> emptyfl4sk: you won't need the bin/ wrappers if you use bundix...
<manveru> but without your shell.nix i can't really tell what's your issue :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #67273 → tor: 0.4.0.5 -> 0.4.1.5 → https://git.io/fjNO8
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #67127 → rambox-pro: 1.1.4 -> 1.1.6 → https://git.io/fjbRz
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<manveru> so
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<manveru> add `rubyenv.wrappedRuby` instead of `ruby_2_5.devEnv`
<manveru> then you shouldn't need all those `Rails deps` or the shellHook
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #67275 → yubikey-manager-qt: 1.1.2 -> 1.1.3 → https://git.io/fjNOE
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #67274 → arping: 2.19 -> 2.20 → https://git.io/fjNOR
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gebner closed pull request #67279 → libheif: 1.4.0 -> 1.5.0 → https://git.io/fjNOP
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<emptyfl4sk> that cleans up the derivation, but I'm unfortunately still getting the `ubygems` error
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #67272 → dhcpcd: 8.0.2 -> 8.0.3 → https://git.io/fjNOc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut pushed 2 commits to staging: https://git.io/fjNGs
<emptyfl4sk> I'm wondering if maybe tmux is causing some weird environment effects
<worldofpeace> ashkitten: #67235 looks perfect, just one little comment and we should wait for the maintainers approval
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/67235 (by ashkitten, 13 hours ago, open): dolphin-emu fixes and updates
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<manveru> emptyfl4sk: well, what does `which ruby` or `which rails` say?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #67255 → gtk-vnc: 0.9.0 → 1.0.0 → https://git.io/fjNI2
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<emptyfl4sk> nope, it's not tmux. same problem outside of it. `which` for both points to the /nix/store version
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<manveru> do you have some plugin for ruby in zsh or something?
<manveru> also, are you running `nix-shell` directly or via direnv?
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<emptyfl4sk> I've tried in both zsh with direnv and bash with nix-shell
<manveru> what's the /nix/store path?
<emptyfl4sk> /nix/store/zi39q5b43mll4a9n8xc24h2qz1qcmmg5-bash-interactive-4.4-p23/bin/bash in fact
<manveru> for ruby
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #67254 → cbor-diag: 0.5.2 -> 0.5.6 → https://git.io/fjNIc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjNGC
<manveru> should be something like `/nix/store/...-wrapped-ruby-app-env/bin/ruby`
<emptyfl4sk> that's /nix/store/20ncqgjlz076xb82crkx84nibg7sb4k5-wrapped-ruby-app-env/bin/ruby
<manveru> what command do you use to get the error?
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<manveru> do you have $RUBYOPT set?
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<emptyfl4sk> just `rails c` or `foreman start`
<emptyfl4sk> aha
<emptyfl4sk> RUBYOPT=rubygems
<manveru> some aeons ago, people used to set RUBYOPT=-rubygems
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #67252 → cddl: 0.8.5 -> 0.8.9 → https://git.io/fjNI3
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjNGW
<manveru> so it works if you unset that i guess...
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #67137 → shaarli: 0.11.0 -> 0.11.1 → https://git.io/fjb0r
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjNG4
<manveru> i wonder why that happens, will look into that :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #67131 → rainloop-community: 1.12.1 -> 1.13.0 → https://git.io/fjbRj
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjNGR
<emptyfl4sk> that was unbelievably frustrating! I wonder why that wasn't a problem under the regular old macos / chruby environment
<manveru> are you sure it's `RUBYOPT=rubygems` and not `RUBYOPT=-rubygems`?
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<manveru> seems like a build issue
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #67141 → sonarr: 2.0.0.5322 -> 2.0.0.5338 → https://git.io/fjbEV
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<emptyfl4sk> no dash, just RUBYOPT=rubygems
<manveru> oO
<manveru> that wouldn't do anything...
<manveru> the `-r` flag is for requiring a library, `-rubygems` tries to require a file called `ubygems.rb`
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<emptyfl4sk> dunno why, maybe the dash is added implicitly?
<manveru> in my case it's at `/nix/store/glhmssxi9zpw6r84ws2zdyw2hfvpsnm2-ruby-2.5.5/lib/ruby/gems/2.5.0/nix/store/glhmssxi9zpw6r84ws2zdyw2hfvpsnm2-ruby-2.5.5/lib/ruby/site_ruby/2.5.0/ubygems.rb`
<manveru> the path is obviously wrong, so ruby can't find the file
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Amar1729 opened pull request #67301 → [WIP] android-file-transfer: get working for darwin → https://git.io/fjNGa
<mgdm> Ah, fixed it
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #67159 → zotero: 5.0.71 -> 5.0.73 → https://git.io/fjb2M
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #67171 → yank: 1.1.0 -> 1.2.0 → https://git.io/fjbwt
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<manveru> emptyfl4sk: well, the env var isn't needed since ruby 1.9 or so
<manveru> since rubygems is required implicitly since then
<emptyfl4sk> yeah, I just removed it
<emptyfl4sk> cruft from long ago
<manveru> but i agree that this is a bit obscure to debug :(
<manveru> i only remember because i used ruby before rubygems was a thing :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace opened pull request #67302 → gtk-vnc: fixups → https://git.io/fjNGi
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<emptyfl4sk> the fact they named it ubygems to make -rubygems work also makes me irrationally angry :)
<manveru> indeed :P
<manveru> i still use un.rb though :P
<emily> wait until you hear about libiberty
<mgdm> or libowfat
<pie_> anyone know why trying to use pkgs in my home-manager.user.some_user.packages causes infinite recursion?
<pie_> if i reimport nixpackages _and set the overlays argument_, then it doesnt
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #66935 → kronometer: name -> pname, version → https://git.io/fjFXw
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<emptyfl4sk> thanks! I can work again
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mmahut merged pull request #67018 → keybase: 4.1.0 -> 4.3.1 → https://git.io/fjFA3
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @lsix merged pull request #67278 → python3Packages.nltk: 3.4.4 -> 3.4.5 (security) → https://git.io/fjNOK
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @adisbladis opened pull request #67305 → Change ISO image defaults → https://git.io/fjNZP
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<growpotk-> hey does anybody know what package contains `lspci` ?
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<ornx> pciutils or busybox
<growpotk-> ornx +1 thank yo
<growpotk-> you*
<ornx> you can just type lspci and it will tell you what package to install if its not already installed
<growpotk-> mine just gripes at me lol
<infinisil> ,locate
<{^_^}> Use ,locate <filename> to find packages containing such a file. Powered by nix-index (local installation recommended) https://github.com/bennofs/nix-index
<infinisil> ,locate bin lspci
<{^_^}> Found in packages: toybox, busybox, pciutils
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @lsix opened pull request #67307 → pythonPackages.nltk: 3.2.5 -> 3.4.5 (security fix - backport to release-19.03) → https://git.io/fjNnU
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #63753 → lesspass-cli: init at 9.0.0 → https://git.io/fjrOt
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @lsix closed pull request #67124 → python37Packages.wsproto: 0.14.1 -> 0.15.0 → https://git.io/fjbRI
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<ldeck`> Hi all. Just getting started with nix-env on macos (Mohave). It appears that openconnect is unsupported on mac at this time. Has anyone got it working?
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<ldeck`> Does nix-darwin help with installing utils like openconnect on macos?
<aminechikhaoui> what's the proper way of add a kernel config, I tried this https://pastebin.com/raw/Ljfx2767 but that fails while rebuilding the kernel with "error: unused option: CRYPTO_FIPS"
<elvishjerricco> ldeck`: No. nix-darwin is configuring your system with nix. It's used to declaratively define background services, /etc files, and more. It does not change the packages available via nixpkgs.
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<iqubic> For those of you who know lorri, I have a few questions: What's the difference between `lorri daemon` and `lorri watch`
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<iqubic> actually, that's the only question I have regarding lorri.
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<iqubic> I also asked in #lorri too.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #67253 → Backport to 19.03: oraclejdk: use working mirror for download → https://git.io/fjNIZ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar opened pull request #67308 → libxmlb: 0.1.10 → 0.1.11 → https://git.io/fjNnu
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar merged pull request #67204 → libical: 3.0.4 → 3.0.5 → https://git.io/fjbST
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<nickTD> Has anyone tried to build a Xcode project in the nix shell? I am getting "Foundation.h cannot be found" error.
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<iqubic> Can you show us what the nix shell look like?
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<iqubic> nickTD: What nix shell are you attempting to use? That's one of the most important things in order to determine what is going wrong.
<nickTD> iqubic When you say what nix shell, do you mean my configuration or version of the nix shell?
<iqubic> Well, in order to build a project, you must be in a directory that has a file called default.nix or shell.nix. I'd like to see the contents of that file.
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<nickTD> Yes. I see. Give me a moment, please.
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