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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pacien opened pull request #63752 → nixos/cgit: fix config example → https://git.io/fjrOJ
<ToxicFrog> Does Hydra not build google-chrome? It's in the package list, but telling nixos-rebuild to install it is trying to build from source, which is going to take all night
<ToxicFrog> And I can't find an entry for it on Hydra
<samueldr> google-chrome uses the upstream google binary
<samueldr> so it "builds" from the source, which is the binary
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<ToxicFrog> Aah.
<ToxicFrog> ...what is my server compiling, then
* ToxicFrog pokes it with a stick
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<ToxicFrog> Aha
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jasoncarr0 opened pull request #63753 → Add LessPass stateless package manager → https://git.io/fjrOt
<ToxicFrog> It's building qtwebkit and qtwebengine, at least one of which contains a complete copy of chromium
<samueldr> that sounds plausible
<ToxicFrog> Hence why all the terminal output looked like it was building chrome
<samueldr> was about to say "right", but it's not exactly right, is it? :)
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<ToxicFrog> I do wonder why it needs those.
<ToxicFrog> Is there any convenient way to get a dependency tree out of configuration.nix?
<samueldr> hrm, I only know how to do it from a built system :/
<samueldr> or at least, nix why-depends should be a good start
<ToxicFrog> I mean, this is an in-place update of a built system, so that might be enough
<ToxicFrog> I didn't know about nix why-depends
<ToxicFrog> Oh, but that requires me to have some idea what depends on it
<samueldr> (read its --help) sometimes --all is necessary to better understand the dependencies
<ToxicFrog> Ok, it looks like digikam depends on qtwebkit, at least
<ToxicFrog> (also wow the UI of `nix` is so much nicer than `nixos-rebuild`)
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<mla> is there something i can throw in my configuration.nix to automatically run a command on boot, e.g. i want to change the permissions of a /sys/ filesystem device to be my user; like chown -R myuser /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
<mla> i suppose a systemd service would work - but is there just some extra config variable i could inline the command to in configuration.nix
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/fjrO8
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<mla> ToxicFrog: awesome exactly what i was looking for
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<romanofski> I wanted to ask if peeps have found a good way to use a nix shell with multiple local Python dependencies all being instealled as editable instead of just the one in the current directory? (found https://github.com/knedlsepp/nix-shell-for-python-multi-project-repos but it doesn't work)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @lightbulbjim opened pull request #63755 → freeciv_gtk: use gtk3 → https://git.io/fjrOA
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-19.03-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/fb8abc97afc (from 3 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-19.03-small)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg merged pull request #63717 → mosquitto: 1.6.2 -> 1.6.3 → https://git.io/fjw7Y
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjr3G
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<simpson> Does there exist Packer+Nix integration?
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<mac10688> I'm really confused on how to use purescript with nixos. Justin Woo has a github account but it's not clear to me plus he seems to be importing things that I don't care for. I can't tell. Does anyone know, what's an easy way to get going with purescript even if it's not the nix way?
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<mac10688> I don't think purescript is ready to be used via mainstream nix packaging manager
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg closed pull request #51308 → roon-server: init 100500363 → https://git.io/fpoBV
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<Notkea[m]> is there a way to make some options mutually exclusive in a module?
<Ralith> assert?
<Notkea[m]> using config.assertions?
<Notkea[m]> config.assertions then, thanks!
<Notkea[m]> also, do we have a boolean xor?
<clever> > true == false
<{^_^}> error: syntax error, unexpected '=', at (string):222:9
<clever> > true = false
<{^_^}> true defined
<clever> infinisil: oh crap....
<clever> Notkea[m]: i think you can just use the = comparison to implement xor
<clever> Notkea[m]: or was it !=
<Notkea[m]> yeah I can just do that
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<switchy> if I'm using nix as a package manager on an ubuntu machine, am I going to have much/any luck with e.g. opengl apps or cuda?
<jackdk> you'll get weird segfaults unless you install nixgl and use it to launch your programs: https://github.com/guibou/nixGL/
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<switchy> oh excellent, this is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #63757 → terraform_0_12: 0.12.2 -> 0.12.3 → https://git.io/fjrs0
<jackdk> I fell into exactly that trap the other day
<switchy> I guess that tool doesn't necessarily do cuda, but the same principle applies
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<infinisil> clever: Bad clever
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<infinisil> > true
<{^_^}> false
<simpson> > if true then "yes" else "no"
<{^_^}> "no"
<clever> infinisil: i was trying to use the compare operator, lol
<infinisil> > true = builtins.true
<{^_^}> true defined
<infinisil> Just don't redefine builtins pls xDa
<Notkea[m]> doublethink :c
<infinisil> I meant to fix this a while ago but kinda forgot about it
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #63758 → vale: 1.4.2 -> 1.4.3 → https://git.io/fjrs2
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @arcnmx opened pull request #63759 → rls: fix darwin build → https://git.io/fjrsK
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<Notkea[m]> how can I merge multiple attribute sets like what's done when importing modules? I'm not sure whether recursiveUpdate merges lists instead of overwriting them
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<clever> Notkea[m]: you want mkMerge
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<Notkea[m]> indeed, thank you
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg opened pull request #63760 → freeciv_qt: init at 2.6.0 → https://git.io/fjrGl
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg merged pull request #63725 → crystal: init at 0.29.0 → https://git.io/fjwdd
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/fjrG8
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<tdeo> is there any way to clear the cached `builtins.fetchGit` downloads manually?
<tdeo> as in, without a hask
<tdeo> hash
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<Synthetica> When trying to build a haskell project that depends on JuicyPixels with `cabal new-build`, I get `<command line>: can't load .so/.DLL for: libz.so (libz.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)` even though I have `buildInputs = with pkgs; [ zlib zlib.dev ];` in my `shell.nix`
<Synthetica> Any pointers?
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<Synthetica> Okay wtf
<Synthetica> When I specify "brittany" as a dependency in my .cabal, nix-shell works but cabal new-build doesn't and when I don't vice-versa
<Synthetica> What is this sorcery
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<Synthetica> So if I comment the brittany dependency, run nix-shell, and then uncomment and cabal new-build, it works
<Synthetica> Whaaaaaa
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @contrun opened pull request #63761 → franz: use wrapGAppsHook → https://git.io/fjrZ2
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #63737 → rambox: 0.6.6 -> 0.6.9 (19.03 backport) → https://git.io/fjrJb
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 3 commits to release-19.03: https://git.io/fjrZM
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #55057 → Fix electron crash when using file chooser dialog → https://git.io/fhSfh
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/fjrnq
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto merged pull request #63713 → Mptcp kernel updates → https://git.io/fjwH5
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/fjrn3
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl pushed to master « saga: 6.3.0 -> 7.2.0 »: https://git.io/fjrnZ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl merged pull request #63287 → saga: 6.3.0 -> 7.2.0 → https://git.io/fjaR6
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<teto> I am trying to use the haskell package c2hsc whose tests fail miserably with "Cannot find executable '/usr/bin/gcc'". any idea if setting gcc path is not a standard cabal setting
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @AtkinsChang opened pull request #63762 → Fix rust build-support → https://git.io/fjrnl
<teto> dminuoso: ^
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @thefloweringash opened pull request #63763 → prometheus-node-exporter: 0.17.0 -> 0.18.1; set version information → https://git.io/fjrnr
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @lightbulbjim closed pull request #63755 → freeciv_gtk: use gtk3 → https://git.io/fjrOA
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pepegar closed pull request #63445 → update bloop to 1.3.2 → https://git.io/fjVe0
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @markuskowa merged pull request #63690 → megasync: init at 4.1.1.0 → https://git.io/fjwig
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @markuskowa pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/fjrcO
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<Taneb> What can I do when my Hydra doesn't seem to pick up changes to a GitHub PR after it's been rebased?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg merged pull request #63760 → freeciv_qt: init at 2.6.0 → https://git.io/fjrGl
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peterhoeg pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjrc4
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<_d0t> Hi! Could you guys tell me which package gsettings belongs to?
<_d0t> command-not-found says it's glib, but it's actually not
<gyroninja___> I'm on unstable and after doing a nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade it gave me this warning "Warning: the new NixOS configuration has an ‘init’ that is incompatible with the current configuration. The new configuration"
<gyroninja___> Do I need to do something manually to fix this, or will it be resolved the next time I restart
<etu> _d0t: realpath $(which gsettings)
<_d0t> etu: I don't actually have it anywhere in my $PATH
<etu> oh
<etu> ,locate bin gsettings
<{^_^}> Found in packages: glib.bin
<_d0t> that was easy!
<_d0t> thanks!
<Izorkin> etu: checked pr?)
<etu> Izorkin: I started looking at it, there's a lot of things to test
<Izorkin> ok
<etu> Izorkin: But I'm thinking it should be fine. But I want to check a few more things first :)
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<balsoft[m]> gchristensen: sorry to bother you again, but the problem with "curl error: Timeout was reached" is back
<balsoft[m]> This is probably not related directly to cache.nixos.org, because fetching from GitHub fails with the same error
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Vskilet closed pull request #60151 → [WIP] nixos/mautrix-telegram: init module → https://git.io/fj3pd
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<v88m> Anyone uses zfs on unstable?
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<etu> v88m: Probably? :p
<v88m> My system unbootable on it
<etu> I know that I don't (yet, planning on it)... But there should be people using it...
<etu> v88m: nix-info ?
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<etu> v88m: oh, can you boot an older generation?
<v88m> I suspect grub 2.04-rc1
<v88m> No, grub fails with error: symbol 'grub_file_filters' not found before i generations can be selected
<jasongrossman> I use zfs on unstable.
<jasongrossman> But not with grub - sorry.
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<v88m> I can repair the system and boot on stable
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<v88m> Will report a bug, thanx!
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<adisbladis> Anyone with experience with pypi2nix? I'm wondering what to do when generation fails and cant be fixed by just adding extra packages.
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<Guanin> I just completed my second (and way more complex) test for #63165 - and I have to say that working with NixOS is a blessing. It's really simple to just create multiple nodes and do stuff with them :) Also regarding that PR: Should I squash the last two commits?
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/63165 (by Amarandus, 1 week ago, open): nixos/system/boot/initrd-openvpn: New openvpn options for initrd
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<nh2> doesn't nix usually print it when it downloads a `NIX_PATH=nixpkgs=https://github.com/.../archive/abc123.tar.gz`? We have one system where it doesn't and just silently downloads
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<chrisaw> Does anyone else have issues getting gdm to start with displayManager.gdm.wayland = false and using nvidia drivers?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @domenkozar pushed to backport-systemd-boot-configurationLimit « Add configurationLimit to systemd-boot to prevent running out of disk space »: https://git.io/fjrW0
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<wucke13> If setting `systemd.network.links.zt.linkConfig.Unmanaged = true;`, why does nixos yield "is not of type `attribute set of systemd options" despite that being exactly the example from https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/release-19.03/nixos/modules/system/boot/networkd.nix#L493 ?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @domenkozar opened pull request #63766 → Add configurationLimit to systemd-boot to prevent running out of disk… → https://git.io/fjrWu
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<chrisaw> Disregard - I had set busId values wrong for both intel and nvidia cards on my Optiu
<chrisaw> *Optimus config
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<nh2> we set `http2 = false` in the config but still we see `HTTP/2 200` in the logs when using `-vvvvv`. Is this setting not working?
<etu> nh2: for what module?
<nh2> etu: for nix itself, in nix.conf
<etu> ah, nix.conf
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<etu> nh2: I see no such option in: man nix.conf
<nh2> etu: `nix show-config` should show it
<timokau[m]> Can I somehow convince nix to use my users ssh (`~/.ssh/config` and the agent) for remote building?
<etu> nh2: Hmm, it does
<nh2> I have the suspicion that the code https://github.com/NixOS/nix/blob/64ec087f582cec33733f4102ab42a3e8f291758a/src/libstore/download.cc#L245-L246 only turns it on, but that it's already on by default in libcurl if the server supports it
<nh2> so that `http2 = false` has no effect
<nh2> we observe that the `curl` seems to default to HTTP/2 also when downloading .nars from cache.nixos.org. Passing --http1.1 forces it to not do that
<nh2> maybe the docs at https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-env.html are wrong (they say "You have to set this option if you want to use libcurl's HTTP/2 support.", but maybe it's on by default)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli closed pull request #55923 → spotifyd: init at 0.2.4 → https://git.io/fh5zS
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #63767 → flow: 0.101.0 -> 0.102.0 → https://git.io/fjrlO
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<lem0n4de> Has anyone tried to create a custom nix-channel? How can I do that?
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<noonien> hello folks
<noonien> how can i run gdb on a nixos installed binary that's being wrapped?
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<noonien> gdb says it's not in executable format
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<adisbladis> noonien: A bit ugly but what I've been doing before is to copy-paste all the env setup into a shell and run debugging from there
<noonien> pft :(
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #63769 → bazelisk: 0.0.7 -> 0.0.8 → https://git.io/fjrlr
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #63758 → vale: 1.4.2 -> 1.4.3 → https://git.io/fjrs2
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse merged pull request #63392 → nixos/cassandra: use cassandra's default cluster name "Test Cluster" → https://git.io/fjaHs
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<noonien> hmm, given that `which bin` is a script that calls `.bin-wrapped`, is `.bin-wrapped` the actual binary?
<immae> noonien: yes it has probably been wrapped. Look at .bin-wrapped in case it is itself recursively wrapped
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<nh2> etu: found the reason: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/2971
<{^_^}> nix#2971 (by nh2, 1 hour ago, open): Cannot disable http2
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<etu> nh2: Cool, nice digging :)
<sg2002> Hello. Are there any plans for getting KDE to work again on 32 bit machines? I see this bug's been open for more than a year: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/36947
<{^_^}> #36947 (by dtzWill, 1 year ago, open): libgcc_s is from bootstrap tools??
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<sphalerite> sg2002: no particular plans I suspect, but if you have a fix for it a PR would probably be accepted.
<gchristensen> FYI: ofborg evaluations was down for a few hours (4:30am my time to 7:30am my time) because I forgot to update a credit card :x it is back online now
<sphalerite> lol nice
<etu> sg2002: I don't have numbers, but based on that other distros are dropping i686 support, I'd assume that i686 usage of NixOS is low as well... And hand in hand with usage goes people willing to put time into fixing things :)
<sg2002> sphalerite: I could probably volunteer, but this seems like a really messy issue that requires some massive changes to the way nixos builds stuff and I simply have no idea where to even start. Wish someone would at least give me some guidance.
<sphalerite> dtz presumably knows some things
<sphalerite> (I don't)
<sg2002> etu: Yeah I know, but nixos is a pretty good fit for old machines that you don't use much, since it saves so much time on administrating them.
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<sg2002> sphalerite: Oh, he's here. Thanks. Gonna try asking him directly.
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<sg2002> dtz: Hey, i'm stuck with that kde on i686 issue. Can you maybe help me with trying to understand what has to be fixed to get it working agian?
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<woffs> sg2002: I use parts of qt with nixos on i686 by applying https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/d9dd94ab7c3d6109bfe824baf1bf8fdb8aa60a32 onto 19.03 and building everything on a powerful 64bit machine
<sg2002> woffs: It's that merge that got later reversed, right? Why was it reversed?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat pushed 126 commits to staging-next: https://git.io/fjr8B
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @romildo opened pull request #63770 → matcha: 2019_05_09 -> 2019-06-22 → https://git.io/fjr80
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<etu> woo
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @domenkozar pushed to master « duplicati: allow changing the user »: https://git.io/fjr87
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed 15 commits to flakes: https://git.io/fjr85
<Taneb> If I'm using autoPatchelfHook to fix up a proprietary program for nix, do I have to specify a specific package to get ld-linux properly?
<{^_^}> #36948 (by dtzWill, 1 year ago, merged): glibc: don't use bootstrap libgcc_s
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<sg2002> woffs: Yep that's what I meant. Was there no movement after that?
<woffs> apparently
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<woffs> i686, you know
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<sg2002> woffs: If I'm understanding correctly a proper fix for this bug would also improve package structure of nixos, so there's a small additional benefit.
<woffs> sg2002: yeah, but someone has to do it and to fix the remaining issues
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @edolstra pushed to master « Typo »: https://git.io/fjr40
<manveru> Taneb: what's it doing now?
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<Taneb> manveru: turns out I just didn't have the file I wanted to patch writable...
<manveru> ah :)
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<chrisaw> Anyone else getting qtbase build failures?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bachp opened pull request #63771 → gitlab-runner: 11.11.2 -> 12.0.0 → https://git.io/fjrBJ
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<yorick> what's the cause of file 'nar/c3sddz1p4r5r85a9zmd684i367zvz4b1.nar' does not exist in binary cache 'http://my.binary.cache' ?
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<pepegar> Hi! I'm using gnupg agent in Nixos for handling all my gpg & ssh keys, but I have a question, is there a way to store password for keys in a keyring or something like that? do you have an alternative solution for that?
<pepegar> Currently I have this: programs.gnupg.agent = {
<pepegar> };
<pepegar> enableSSHSupport = true;
<pepegar> enable = true;
<pepegar>
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @basvandijk opened pull request #63772 → cargo-license: add meta.homepage → https://git.io/fjrBP
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @basvandijk merged pull request #63772 → cargo-license: add meta.homepage → https://git.io/fjrBP
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<adisbladis> pepegar: If you are running something like gnome-keyring in your session you'll get that
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<gwen> Aye aye, I've just seen that PLplot seems not to be packaged for NixOS (searching in the nixpkgs repository and on "Search NixOS packages" did not yield results). Is that correct?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #63503 → pythonPackages.pycategories: init at 1.2.0 → https://git.io/fjVs0
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<locallycompact> Hi, when I try to build LinVST I get this error, but I have X11 libs installed globally
<locallycompact> remotepluginclient.h:44:10: fatal error: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
<locallycompact> #include <X11/Xlib.h>
<Shoubit> locallycompact, you don't install libraries globally with Nix (that would defeat the purpose of Nix), you'd have to enter a nix-shell to see the libraries.
<locallycompact> oh ok
<locallycompact> cool
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<u0_a54> ok
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<Shoubit> locallycompact, basically, `nix-shell -p package` should expose it, and if it doesn't it's hopefully documented for your specific case on https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/
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<Shoubit> e.g. python.withPackages(ps: [ps.numpy ps.toolz]), and other "withPackages" helper functions
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #63747 → acpilight: 1.1 -> 1.2 → https://git.io/fjrq6
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjrR4
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<NinjaTrappeur> Is anybody having commit right is using hostapd here? I could use a second review :) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/63699
<{^_^}> #63699 (by NinjaTrappeur, 1 day ago, open): hostapd: add noscan mode
<NinjaTrappeur> ^ totally broken English, sorry about that ><
<gchristensen> clever: ^
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<clever> NinjaTrappeur: ah, i did notice hostapd is only running in g band for me right now, and wanted to get more speed out of it
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<sphalerite> pepegar: it should be storing the passwords/keys already
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli opened pull request #63773 → installation-device.nix: explain sshd usage, don't include clone-config → https://git.io/fjrRD
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<sphalerite> ,library locallycompact
<{^_^}> locallycompact: Don't install libraries through nix-env or systemPackages, use nix-shell instead. See https://nixos.wiki/wiki/FAQ/Libraries for details.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjrRy
<NinjaTrappeur> clever, yeah, n is actually just an extension of g, not a mode by itself.
<sphalerite> Shoubit: handy factoid for that ^
<NinjaTrappeur> It's just using several channels to get more bandwith
<clever> NinjaTrappeur: ah, in my case, my wifi is coming from an aging d-link router, and its capped at ~19mbit
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed 18 commits to staging-next: https://git.io/fjrR9
<clever> and ive been wanting to use hostapd on my nas to resolve that
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<clever> NinjaTrappeur: https://beta.speedtest.net/result/8365544715 is what i get from my desktop, but https://beta.speedtest.net/result/8365547032 is what i get from the laptop
<NinjaTrappeur> clever, is your d-link router + antenna 802.11a-compatible (5ghz)? If so, you might be able to expend that quite a bit. My current nixos-powered router is able to deliver 140mbit in g mode (2.4Ghz)
<NinjaTrappeur> You should be able to reach 800mbit in 5ghz
<clever> NinjaTrappeur: the dlink router only has 100mbit ethernet ports, and the firmware is from 2005
<NinjaTrappeur> oh :/
<clever> NinjaTrappeur: http://support.dlink.ca/ProductInfo.aspx?m=DI-524 this old thing
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<sphalerite> NinjaTrappeur: are you sure you mean a and not ac?
<NinjaTrappeur> I had a similar router, I recently upgraded to https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/32863096123.html, I'm pretty satisfied with it. (not cheap but can firewall a gb connection).
<sphalerite> or just… something that's not a
<clever> 02:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
<NinjaTrappeur> sphalerite, indeed. I stand corrected :)
<clever> NinjaTrappeur: my nas came with this on the motherboard, and the antenna has 2 coax wires, so its much more modern
<NinjaTrappeur> Yeah, the wireless card sucks, but it's a plugged to a regular pcie, you can change it.
<NinjaTrappeur> oh
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/fjrRF
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjrRN
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #63757 → terraform_0_12: 0.12.2 -> 0.12.3 → https://git.io/fjrs0
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<clever> NinjaTrappeur: its a laptop sized card, mini-pci-e
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<clever> but it also has regular pcie slots, so i can just ignore that
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<Neo--> does anyone have issues with docker and docker-compose permissions? as root, it works as expected, but as a regular user I'm getting permission denied, despite having "docker" in extraGroups
<wucke13> Neo--: Did you log out and login after adding the group?
<clever> Neo--: run `id` to confirm what groups your in
<Neo--> clever, well, 1000 is added but it doesn't have a label
<Neo--> if docker still has a magic for 1000?
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<Neo--> weird, it worked a couple of days back
<wucke13> For me, "docker" is 131. 1000 should be "users".
<Neo--> oh, my bad then!
<wucke13> I would guess docker is a system group, so its GID will be below 1000
<Neo--> then weirdly, I'm not in the group
<gchristensen> for me gid 100 is "users"
<clever> uid=1000(clever) gid=100(users) groups=100(users),1(wheel),72(vboxusers),131(docker),500(wireshark)
<Neo--> huh - su - $USER and running id in it, does list docker group (131)
<sphalerite> yes, you need to log out and back in for the uid addition to take effect.
<clever> Neo--: yeah, you need to logout and log back in
<Neo--> i did do a bunch of manipulation with various tools, probably something screwed it up
<Neo--> thanks everyone!
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<disasm> anyone know of an alternative to coreutils that gives you `cat` without depending on pam?
<gchristensen> :o
<disasm> yeah gchristensen you've seen the back and forth in #snapcraft :)
<gchristensen> wait, what is the problem? O.o
<lordcirth> disasm, why?
<lordcirth> disasm, also, busybox
<disasm> nix/store/zh1q7yvyaxlcmj3n6g0rrdaq0v73pp90-linux-pam-1.3.1/bin/unix_chkpwd -> /run/wrappers/bin/unix_chkpwd
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<gchristensen> ugly
<clever> disasm: runCommand to copy cat to /nix/store/hash-cat/bin/cat ?
<gchristensen> disasm: can you make a (detailed) comment on my PR about what has happened, and the error you got?
<lordcirth> disasm, on my Ubuntu 18.04, busybox is a 2MiB static binary that covers a ton of commands
<disasm> yup
<disasm> lordcirth: same issue with busybox
<gchristensen> eh?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bebehei opened pull request #63775 → qt5.12 base: Add patch to fix QTBUG-73459 → https://git.io/fjr0R
<gchristensen> busybox doesn't link to /run at all afaict
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<clever> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 991K Dec 31 1969 busybox
<clever> lordcirth: 991kb on nixos
<clever> but it depends on glibc
<wucke13> How would one cause systemds networkd to not manage interfaces starting with a certain string?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #63746 → cargo-expand: fix darwin build → https://git.io/fjrta
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjr0z
<clever> disasm: let me check the cat drv...
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #63745 → rust-bindgen: 0.49.0 -> 0.49.2 → https://git.io/fjrtn
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjr0g
<disasm> oh, it might be bash instead
<disasm> squashfs-root/nix/store/x0mlaj4z4ciycaycfwc36l1932mwywfj-bash-4.4-p23/lib/bash/pathchk
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<clever> disasm: bash doesnt depend on pam
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<gchristensen> best to do a nix why-depends on the path
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<clever> disasm: building jormungandr-bootstrap....
<clever> disasm: util-linux is to blame
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<clever> nix-repl> :b utillinux.override { pam = null; }
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<disasm> so do we need that in an override clever ?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb merged pull request #63310 → vulnix: 1.8.1 -> 1.8.2 → https://git.io/fjauU
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjr0P
<gchristensen> first I'd ask, why do you depend on utillinux
<clever> rm: cannot remove '/nix/store/0syviigzsncd94hypp618c0ahz2w76cc-util-linux-2.33.1-bin/bin/su': No such file or directory
<clever> disasm: the override fails
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<clever> > libuuid
<{^_^}> "<derivation /nix/store/ny022ll0i0djcajjaryqswpfxd0v3p9i-util-linux-2.33.2.drv>"
<clever> gchristensen: libuuid, is actually an alias to util-linux!
<gchristensen> :o
<clever> and we need uuidgen
<clever> again, runCommand can solve that
<gchristensen> ,locate uuidgen
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<{^_^}> Found in packages: toybox, utillinux, libuuid.bin, utillinux.bin
<clever> disasm: *cries*, we depend on systemd!! lol
<gchristensen> omg what is your program doing
<clever> [nix-shell:~/iohk/jormungandr-nix]$ patchelf --print-rpath /nix/store/npw1ck04ps0x497hrlwzmiqidyp8x1yr-jormungandr-0.2.3/bin/jormungandr
<clever> gchristensen: its in the rpath
<clever> /nix/store/c8k8dl7k6hahagzzkyw501dp1548sp99-openssl-1.0.2r/lib:/nix/store/mpz6fgvrz75lcczsdni94254jp5nmxw3-systemd-239.20190219-lib/lib:/nix/store/681354n3k44r8z90m35hm8945vsp95h1-glibc-2.27/lib
<clever> libsystemd.so.0 => /nix/store/mpz6fgvrz75lcczsdni94254jp5nmxw3-systemd-239.20190219-lib/lib/libsystemd.so.0 (0x00007f7cdd718000)
<clever> oh, it might be sd_notify
<clever> 36661: 0000000000000000 0 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT UND sd_journal_sendv@@LIBSYST
<clever> nope, sd_journal_sendv!
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos pushed to master « weston: 6.0.0 -> 6.0.1 »: https://git.io/fjr0S
<clever> [clever@amd-nixos:~/iohk/jormungandr-nix]$ du -h --max=0 -c $(nix-store -qR ./result) | sort -h
<clever> closure is currently 93mb, and includes util-linux and pam
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<clever> disasm: closure is now 72mb, and doesnt depend on pam
<clever> but there are 2 glibc's
<clever> and 2 util-linux's
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<clever> disasm: it looks like the rust code is using a different nixpkgs, so it has a diff glibc
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed to staging-next « wxwidgets 3.1: add default libGLSupported, fixes eval »: https://git.io/fjrEk
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl merged pull request #63767 → flow: 0.101.0 -> 0.102.0 → https://git.io/fjrlO
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vbgl pushed commit from @marsam to master « flow: 0.101.0 -> 0.102.0 »: https://git.io/fjrEq
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #63659 → pythonPackages.hdbscan: fix build → https://git.io/fjwRK
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<{^_^}> [flake-registry] @edolstra pushed to master « Update dwarffs URI »: https://git.io/fjrEW
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<softinio> infinisil: hope you are well. When you get a chance can you re-review my PR https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/56250 ty sir
<{^_^}> #56250 (by softinio, 17 weeks ago, open): vim-plugins: Added more vim plugins
<softinio> about to go to work where I dont have irc access will monitor PR comments
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<elux> hi
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<elux> is there something wrong with qtbase-5.12.0 ?
<elux> home-manager is failing to install it, fails to compile on home-manager switch --upgrade
<elux> im not even sure which dep/pkg needs qtbase
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<clever> elux: nix gives you a stack trace when it fails, to say what depended on it
<slabity> I deployed a system with NixOps as an EC2 instance, but it doesn't seem to have the correct information in my `configuration.nix`. It only has `ec2.hvm = true` - Is there something else that needs to be done to get this working?
<clever> slabity: nixops will never touch configuration.nix
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<slabity> clever: That explains that. But I'm pretty sure my configuration isn't taking affect. I enabled a service (gitea) but it doesn't seem to be running
<clever> slabity: nixops will also ignore the remote configuration.nix file
<clever> slabity: all services must be defined in the nixops deployment files
<elux> i think nixos for servers is a great idea. but whats the point of nixops? is it a fork of nixos? ideally it would just be a simple cli tool, not related to nix at all, to execute the normal nixos setup..
<gchristensen> it is a CLI tool for deploying nixos
<clever> elux: nixops is a tool to auto-create hardware in the cloud, and deploy nixos to it in bulk
<elux> and does it feel the same as nixos on desktop?
<slabity> clever: Yea, I set it to enabled in my deployment file. But logging into the system shows that it's not running
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<gchristensen> if you want a simple CLI tool, you can just use nixos-rebuild to deploy
<clever> slabity: did you check `systemctl status name.service` ?
<elux> yea, something like https://github.com/pressly/sup + calling nixos-rebuild
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed 691 commits to staging: https://git.io/fjruv
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<elux> clever: seems cannot build derivation '/nix/store/zd2gj20mng7qx62fjszzgqg0lasbz4h1-python3.7-PyQt-5.11.3.drv': 1 dependencies couldn't be built
<clever> elux: and then below that, is what depended on pyqt
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<DigitalKiwi> i think arm was having problems with that package too
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<elux> thanks clever, it was wine. ive commented it out for now
<DigitalKiwi> which isn't surprising i guess but i noticed it the other day...
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jtojnar pushed to staging « wxGTK31: fix eval »: https://git.io/fjruG
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb merged pull request #63006 → drm_info: init at 2.1.0 → https://git.io/fjg95
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjruZ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @sifmelcara opened pull request #63776 → solc: 0.5.9 -> 0.5.10 → https://git.io/fjruW
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<zfnmxt> Trying to submit my first PR. Is `nix path-info -S` supposed to be run for modules as well...and, how, then? I just fixed a broken systemd unit file.
<Guest25435> Could someone tell me where the logs generated by iptables go?
<gchristensen> dmesg
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<gchristensen> and journalctl -f will show them
<clever> which also lands in the journal
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<clever> Guest25435: `journalctl -f -t kernel` will show dmesg logs
<Guest25435> Thanks
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #63592 → xtrace: 1.3.1 -> 1.4.0 → https://git.io/fjVNR
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjruB
<srhb> zfnmxt: Personally I've never really done that, however it could be argued that checking the full system derivation size with/without the change is good practice (if sort of above-and-beyond) -- Did you add any path references to the unit? If not, you're probably fine. If yes, might be worth checking those. :)
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<zfnmxt> srhb: I literally just fixed whitespace :P
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<srhb> zfnmxt: I think you can relax, whitespace has very few dependencies. :-)
<zfnmxt> But, it was causing the service to fail, so it was particularly bad whitespace!
<srhb> Well now I'm curious. ;-)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zfnmxt opened pull request #63777 → nixos/undervolt: fixes ExecStart formatting → https://git.io/fjrug
<gchristensen> interesting
<zfnmxt> srhb: well there you go, go look :D
<srhb> Hm, I don't see the bug.. What was the failure condition?
<zfnmxt> It failed regardless for me
* srhb squints
<zfnmxt> It was some combination of preceeding whitespace on the new line, the line splits, and the spaces before the backslashes
<srhb> aaah
<srhb> I wonder, did we recently do something to sort those
<zfnmxt> I couldn't find much info on how exactly systemd parses whitespace...so I just played with it a bit until it fixed it. >.>
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<{^_^}> #63533 (by Pneumaticat, 5 days ago, open): Breakage due to systemd 242 parsing of \ in ExecStart= & other options
<srhb> That's fun...
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<zfnmxt> Oh!
<zfnmxt> That explains that. I didn't try `undervolt` until today, so I thought it had just been inherently kaput.
<gchristensen> oh dear
<srhb> No, definitely recent breakage from #61321 .
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/61321 (by andir, 6 weeks ago, merged): systemd: 239 -> 242
<srhb> That's.. Painful :D
<zfnmxt> Is the PR still relevant? I'm guessing a global solution is going to be worked on?
<srhb> zfnmxt: Yes, please.
<zfnmxt> Okay :D
<srhb> If we conjure up a permanent fix (which we might have to) we can always close it. Thanks!
<gchristensen> is that ... wow. have we reported a bug upstream?
<srhb> Looking now :)
<gchristensen> srhb++
<{^_^}> srhb's karma got increased to 55
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<srhb> I do not see it, but there's some *hilarious* backslash-related bugs in there...
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<srhb> "Trailing backslash in comment is parsed resulting in comment line continuation"
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<gchristensen> :|
<gchristensen> I see they have a nicely principled parser
<srhb> There's also a "well, *technically* [...]" comment in there, so... :D
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #63493 → meson: enable auto_features by default → https://git.io/fjVYg
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 15 commits to staging: https://git.io/fjruX
<Miyu-saki> So, uh... I don't use Chromium, but someone's ringing warning bells on me because of using SHAttered to circumvent fixed output hashes? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blame/master/pkgs/applications/networking/browsers/chromium/update.nix#L96
<gchristensen> it isn't a thing
<Miyu-saki> Can't this be fixed with `impure = true;` and removing the fixed output hash on that specific derivation?
<gchristensen> that is a clever abuse of Nix for an upgrade script, and isn't part of Nixpkgs' packaging of Chrome
<Miyu-saki> Oh. So it won't even be run by release.nix or the hydra?
<gchristensen> Miyu-saki: correct
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<Miyu-saki> Thanks. I guess my friend found the HN lol.
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<gchristensen> this has existed for a long long time, heh, but was recently upgraded from md5 to sha1 on april 1
<nyanloutre[m]> Hello I may have a problem with the dhcp client. When I do a `nixos-rebuild switch` it will get stuck with an APIPA address. However if I restart the dhcpd service it will get a public IP as it should.
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<noonien> how can i override glibc for stdenv in a shell.nix?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @kalbasit merged pull request #63769 → bazelisk: 0.0.7 -> 0.0.8 → https://git.io/fjrlr
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @kalbasit pushed commit from @marsam to master « bazelisk: 0.0.7 -> 0.0.8 (#63769) »: https://git.io/fjrzv
<aveltras> for those using nixops to deploy apps here, how do you handle database migrations ?
<asheshambasta> I'm also interested in knowing that aveltras
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<srhb> aveltras: As in: An application (that I control) requires database migrations or, say, postgres from 9.x to 10.x?
<aveltras> asheshambasta: only found this on the matter https://www.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/6jdp54/database_migrations_with_nixops/
<slabity> I actually would like to know that answer as well.
<aveltras> srhb: as in the application requires schema change
<srhb> I let the application handle that.
<aveltras> srhb: what are you using to execute the migrations ? some library for your language app ?
<srhb> Yes, if possible.
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<aveltras> i see
<srhb> If I have to manage it out-of-band I honestly go manual.
<srhb> And cry a bit.
<aveltras> :)
<aveltras> i planned to use sqitch which is a standalone migration tool but letting the app run those migrations when restarting feels wrong
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<mac10688> Hi all, I'm having issues with purescript package being broken. It was recommended that I downloaded a tarball version or a specific git revsion of it to "pin" it down. Does this sound like a correct approach?
<aveltras> mac10688: seems it's usually the way to go with nix
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<devalot> aveltras: What I do right now is have a systemd oneshot service that does the migrations, and all other application services depend on it.
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<aveltras> devalot: something like this https://gist.github.com/drmalex07/d006f12914b21198ee43 where the shell scripts run the migrations then, is it so ?
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<devalot> aveltras: Yes, mostly. I'm not sure about the RemainAfterExit bit, I don't do that because I believe systemd needs to see a oneshot server as stopping so other dependent services can start.
<aveltras> i see, i'll have to investigate how systemd services work a bit more then, thanks for the input !
<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/9638d85ff6b (from 2 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
<devalot> aveltras: The code is a bit dense, but here is how I deal with a Ruby on Rails application: https://github.com/pjones/phoebe/blob/master/modules/services/web/rails/systemd.nix
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<aveltras> comprehensive example :) i've bookmarked it, i'll try to adapt it to my use case
<aveltras> thx again
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<karetsu> does anybody know how I can filter the output of `playerctl metadata xesam:artist`
<karetsu> it doesn't seem to be a 'normal' program
<ivegotasthma> hello, what's the preferred way to write haskell on nixos?
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<karetsu> ivegotasthma: I use cabal2nix
<ivegotasthma> karetsu: how's it different from stack?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer opened pull request #63778 → pythonPackages.python-dotenv: 0.10.2 -> 0.10.3 → https://git.io/fjrzF
<aveltras> ivegotasthma: you should take a loot at the nixpkgs manual, there's a section about haskell development
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<worldofpeace> can someone merge #365?
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/365 (by orbitz, 6 years ago, merged): Add opam 0.9.5
<georgyo> I am trying to make a ntpsec package, everything is building, however the python modules don't end in the python search path for things like ntpq
<{^_^}> ofborg#365 (by worldofpeace, 3 weeks ago, open): Add .github/FUNDING.yml
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<aveltras> ivegotasthma: it's different from stack in that it is handling haskell dependency + system dependencies
<ivegotasthma> thanks guys
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<aveltras> ivegotasthma: the only downside to not using stack is that some ide tooling only works with it
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<georgyo> This is the debugging I got done so far as well: https://gist.github.com/georgyo/a85061941d9b225721591dc1f077d406
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #62338 → Add .github/FUNDING.yml → https://git.io/fjEtQ
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<noonien> how can i get a stdenv with a specific glibc version?
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<georgyo> noonien: % nix-env -qaP | grep -i stdenv
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<noonien> doesn't seem to have anything that would be useful
<georgyo> stdenvNoLibs and then pass in whatever glibc version after that
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<noonien> can't seem to find an example of someone doing that :(
<noonien> hmm
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<srhb> gchristensen: lol, the comment one was the bad commit after all.
<gchristensen> srhb: oh?
<srhb> gchristensen: Prior to that, `setting1=1` for this: https://gist.github.com/srhb/3624c49c70e3c486e9c74ea90f33012f -- after that, `setting1=1 setting2=2`
<srhb> (That is setting1 includes that entire trailing bit)
<srhb> Guess I'll clean up my patch and report it upstream..
<srhb> (er, my test patch)
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<srhb> Oh oops, lost some escapes in that gist..
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<gchristensen> ooh
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @kalbasit merged pull request #63749 → go-tools: 2019.1.1 -> 2019.2 → https://git.io/fjrYJ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @yegortimoshenko merged pull request #61772 → xfce4-13: 4.13.x -> 4.14pre1 → https://git.io/fj4mn
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @yegortimoshenko pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjrga
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @MrMebelMan opened pull request #63780 → foxdot: init at 0.7.30 → https://git.io/fjrgX
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<{^_^}> systemd/systemd#12883 (by srhb, 2 minutes ago, open): Any number of newlines chomped after continuation
<srhb> I can sort of see why it's reasonableish but I certainly don't think it was an intended change..
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<srhb> (In fact, I'd prefer if newlines not followed by a backslash just ended the continuation period..
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<Uniaika> hi!
<Uniaika> I have an ubuntu server, for which I'd like to switch to Nix as a lightweight replacement for Ansible + apt. Is there some kind of guide that shows how to write a derivation for a server that does not run NixOS?
<Uniaika> or are those cases so similar I should just go with the NixOS guides?
<srhb> Uniaika: Just to be clear, Nix without NixOS is not generally* used to generate services etc. Some people still do, but the facilities are sort of lackluster and very quite undocumented.
<srhb> Regular derivations for any software is completely similar though.
<srhb> It's just that the entire systemd infrastructure really *is* NixOS.
<simpson> Uniaika: But, if "server" just means the hardware/root, then sure, you can write relatively plain Nix (against nixpkgs) and have it work on Ubuntu. Like srhb says, NixOS is mostly about managing systemd.
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<srhb> I'd prefer generating configuration files in nix over ansible any day though, even if I had to write the infra myself from scratch.
<srhb> ... which I do!
* srhb headdesks
<Uniaika> thank you very much for your help :)
<simpson> srhb: I wonder about this. If my inputs were in JSON, and my outputs were in JSON, I'd be hard-pressed to prefer Nix or Dhall or similar over something bespoke like jq.
<simpson> ...But jq is not as readable as Nix or Dhall.
<Uniaika> I'll probably stay on Ansible for that then :) until I can get a NixOS server from Scaleway
<Uniaika> have a nice one!
<srhb> Uniaika: Good luck then :) Hope you're back soon ;-)
<srhb> simpson: I mean, I'd not ever prefer working directly in json. I might generate it, sure..
<srhb> But when push comes to shove, the language isn't what keeps me around (though I am quite fond of it...)
<Uniaika> srhb: I'll ease the pain by using dhall to generate my ansible yaml :P
<srhb> :P
<srhb> dhall->ansible->install nix->ansible to execute nix->???->profit
<gchristensen> the DANAN stack
<srhb> xD
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed to master « ProgressBar: Fix updating »: https://git.io/fjr2Y
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @kalbasit merged pull request #63744 → go-protobuf: 2018-01-04 -> 1.3.1 → https://git.io/fjrtI
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @kalbasit pushed commit from @q3k to master « go-protobuf: 2018-01-04 -> 1.3.1 (#63744) »: https://git.io/fjr2O
<furrycatherder> I tried upgrading to 19.03 and started a mass rebuild..?
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<srhb> furrycatherder: ru-oh! Overlaying something?
<marek> any rust packaging experts around? how do I use rustup within a nixpkgs?
<qyliss> marek: you don't
<marek> mokay :)
<qyliss> use rustPlatform.buildRustPackage, or Carnix
<tilpner> You don't. You can use the mozilla overlay, but not in nixpkgs
<srhb> furrycatherder: And what did oyu do to upgrade?
<furrycatherder> srhb: I have a module I'm using but no overlays
<furrycatherder> srhb: nixos-rebuild --upgrade switch
<srhb> furrycatherder: What does your channel point to?
<marek> qyliss, tilpner so, I have a package that hits a bug in latest rust, but uses the rustup to work around it, I guess that means it won't be in nixpkgs?
<qyliss> Not until the bug is fixed in stable rust
<furrycatherder> srhb: nixos https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-19.03
<tilpner> marek: Which rustc do you need?
<tilpner> marek: Yes, practically. A package bringing its own rustc won't be accepted
<furrycatherder> I also removed the module from configuration.nix and still have a mass rebuild
<qyliss> Can you clarify what exactly you mean by mass rebuild?
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<marek> tilpner: the problem was fixed in 1.35
<marek> so, released about a month ago
<tilpner> You'll have to wait on #63099
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/63099 (by edolstra, 1 week ago, open): rustc: 1.34.2 -> 1.35.0
<marek> good! I will test it with that commit at least :)
<tilpner> Or help move it along
<marek> thank you tilpner!
* marek nods, fires up nix-review
<tilpner> You may need an Apple device to be helpful
<tilpner> :/
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<marek> htrmm, I was thiking of buying an apple mini, as most of the problems I hit are darwin builds failing :)
<furrycatherder> qyliss: starts building perl, bootstrap-tools, etc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @romildo opened pull request #63781 → deepin.dde-session-ui: 4.9.11 -> 4.9.12 → https://git.io/fjr20
<marek> too bad I did not find a suitable cloud offering a darwin
<niksnut> I'm inclined to merge that PR
<niksnut> we shouldn't let darwin block linux
<marek> true, but again, if we do not fix that now, no one will probably
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<qyliss> darwin users will be much more motivated than they will with it unmerged! :P
<marek> true :) do we have any numbers how many users are running nixos on darwin?
<qyliss> There are 40 people in #nix-darwin
<qyliss> So, more than that.
<qyliss> Quite a few I think?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @timokau opened pull request #63782 → home-manager: 2019-05-24 -> 2019-06-25 → https://git.io/fjr2g
<qyliss> I need to set up the MBP I don't use so it's running all the time and I can SSH into it from outside my network.
<qyliss> Would be good for building on Darwin.
<gchristensen> way way way more than 40, for sure
<furrycatherder> since when is home-manager in nixpkgs o_o
<marek> half of the people in @nix-darwin are there to troubleshoot their builds :)
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<LnL> is the rust update broken?
<qyliss> on Darwin. Not merged yet.
<LnL> that's an awkward error tho :/
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<qyliss> yeah
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<qyliss> furrycatherder: do you fancy posting your config? Can redact anything you confidential, of course.
<furrycatherder> not much to see I'm afraid :/
<furrycatherder> the module does stuff like enabling dnsmasq
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<qyliss> Wow, okay
<furrycatherder> And actually it seems to be building all of nix 2.2's dependencies from source
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<symphorien> furrycatherder: can you paste the output of nix show-config ? Does it mention cache.nixos.org ?
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<furrycatherder> ahh I think I found it
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<furrycatherder> good catch symphorien
<furrycatherder> For some reason cachix is our only substituter...
<furrycatherder> I can fix this though. Thanks guys
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rycee merged pull request #63782 → home-manager: 2019-05-24 -> 2019-06-25 → https://git.io/fjr2g
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rycee pushed commit from @timokau to master « home-manager: 2019-05-24 -> 2019-06-25 »: https://git.io/fjr2D
<symphorien> You are not the first one removing cache.nixos.org for cachix "by mistake"
<symphorien> There must be faulty setup instructions for cachix somewhere
<srhb> It's pretty easy to accidentally nuke the default substituters. Think there's even an open PR for it
<furrycatherder> It's a little surprising
<furrycatherder> nix.binaryCaches should already have cache.nixos.org, right? I thought it would merge the options
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<srhb> I think it's using a default prio instead of standard prio.
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<furrycatherder> because that's what mkOption's default param does? :T
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<srhb> furrycatherder: Yeah.
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<srhb> It should probably really be a default config value instead of an option default.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rycee opened pull request #63783 → firefox: allow overriding config of wrapped package → https://git.io/fjr2d
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nlewo merged pull request #63562 → kops: 1.11.1->1.12.1 → https://git.io/fjVXy
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nlewo pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjr2h
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<{^_^}> [systemd] @flokli opened pull request #29 → Nixos v242 stable backports → https://git.io/fjraf
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli opened pull request #63784 → systemd: apply systemd-stable 242 backports → https://git.io/fjraq
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<Uniaika> immae: ;)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @WilliButz opened pull request #63785 → grafana: 6.2.4 -> 6.2.5 → https://git.io/fjra4
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @aanderse opened pull request #63786 → mysql: drop support for deprecated package & module option → https://git.io/fjraE
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<Izorkin> aanderse: can not delete mysql55 ?
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<aanderse> Izorkin: yeah, i wanted your feedback, so please leave a comment on the PR
<aanderse> thats why i pinged you :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dysinger opened pull request #63787 → Release 19.03 with kexectools fixed [closes #56290] → https://git.io/fjraM
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<Izorkin> https://docs.librenms.org/Installation/ is it possible to run on nixOS? I do not want to work
<{^_^}> #63723 (by Izorkin, 1 day ago, open): mariadb: duplicating binary files in client and server packages
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Kjuvi opened pull request #63788 → timetable: init at 1.0.6 → https://git.io/fjra9
<aanderse> Izorkin: mysql55 isn't supported software anymore. upstream has called it end of life.
<aanderse> the module would still be compatible, though
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dysinger closed pull request #63787 → Release 19.03 with kexectools fixed [closes #56290] → https://git.io/fjraM
<aanderse> so you could pull in mysql55 from nixos 19.03 and run it on nixos 19.09
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<gchristensen> has anyone tried making vbox not require a full recompile to enable the propriety tools?
<boogiewoogie> hey, I want to create a nix expression for https://github.com/okonek/tidal-cli-client. I assume it's quite simple with npm2nix as the project seems not too complex, but I've never used npm or npm2nix. is this maybe a quick routine task to anyone here who'd like to help me out? :)
<Izorkin> aanderse: ok, can then transfer mysql55 to my nur-packages
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<gchristensen> Izorkin: nice :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed commit from @mmahut to staging-19.03 « bluez: CVE-2018-10910 »: https://git.io/fjrad
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace closed pull request #63358 → bluez: CVE-2018-10910 → https://git.io/fjaXJ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mogorman opened pull request #63789 → ldh_client → https://git.io/fjrVU
<yurb> It's a bit annoying that nix-env -u is always failing due to a package that won't update (because of #60845). Is it possible to add an exclude pattern to a configuration file or something like that?
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/60845 (by yurkobb, 7 weeks ago, open): newsboat broken in single-user mode
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<yurb> So that if I say nix-env -u, it would update everything except this package?
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<marek> maybe stupid question - but how to get the source link from a default.nix of a package? any other way than ugly script?
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<SebastianHasler[> What do you mean by source link?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @grahamc merged pull request #56265 → replace deprecated usage of PermissionsStartOnly (part 2) → https://git.io/fhbm3
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @grahamc pushed 35 commits to master: https://git.io/fjrVm
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @chpatrick opened pull request #63790 → gdm: add autoSuspend option → https://git.io/fjrVZ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @grahamc merged pull request #63699 → hostapd: add noscan mode → https://git.io/fjwDJ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @grahamc pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/fjrVn
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<wildtrees> after I install package, where is it's default.nix file on nixos:?
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<kaliumxyz> Can't get some nodejs app to build using nix, it crashes when npm run build calls ng (the cli tool for angular) which starts with #!/usr/bin/env node
<kaliumxyz> Tried to use patchShebang on it after I get it using npm install however this doesn't fix the issue
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<kaliumxyz> here is my default.nix
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<kaliumxyz> Figured it out :D
<kaliumxyz> Its because /node_modules/.bin/ng is a symbolic link
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<emptyflask> I just reinstalled nix on MacOS (10.14) using the multi-user config... I can't seem to get any packages due to problems with SSL (or maybe the nix build users can't read the CA cert?)
<emptyflask> $ nix-shell -p nix-info --run "nix-info -m"
<emptyflask> error: unexpected end-of-file
<emptyflask> or using nix-env I get: error: unable to download 'https://cache.nixos.org/n9vm3m58y1n3rg3mlll17wanc9hln58k.narinfo': Problem with the SSL CA cert (path? access rights?) (77)
<emptyflask> NIX_SSL_CERT_FILE is set to /nix/var/nix/profiles/default/etc/ssl/certs/ca-bundle.crt
<clever> emptyflask: if nix-daemon is running, then NIX_SSL_CERT_FILE would have to be set for the nix-daemon process
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @tadeokondrak closed pull request #58859 → vapoursynth: split python module out → https://git.io/fjIgL
<emptyflask> clever: if that's not set automatically, how would I do that? add it to the daemon plist?
<clever> emptyflask: probably
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @tadeokondrak opened pull request #63791 → vapoursynth: wrap vspipe → https://git.io/fjrVi
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @tadeokondrak closed pull request #61522 → [blocked] vapoursynth-editor: init at R19 → https://git.io/fjlOM
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<emptyflask> `sudo launchctl setenv NIX_SSL_CERT_FILE $NIX_SSL_CERT_FILE` and a service restart fixed it
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @tadeokondrak opened pull request #63792 → vapoursynth-editor: init at R19 → https://git.io/fjrV7
<Notkea[m]> is it possible to define a config attribute in a submodule and have it merged into the global attribute set? Setting this attribute seems to have no effect and doing an mkMerge in the parent module causes an infinite recursion to happen :/
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<clever> Notkea[m]: you want to set the outer config, after you mapAttrs over config.yourthing.yoursubmodule
<Notkea[m]> it's not possible to define the config inside the submodule?
<clever> Notkea[m]: nope
<Notkea[m]> :c
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @tadeokondrak opened pull request #63793 → ffms: symlink vapoursynth plugin → https://git.io/fjrwe
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