gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos to: NixOS stable: 18.09, beta: 19.03 https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-19-03-feature-freeze/1950 || https://nixos.org || Latest NixOS: https://nixos.org/nixos/download.html || Latest Nix: https://nixos.org/nix/download.html || Logs: https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos/ || #nixos-dev, #nix-darwin, #nixos-aarch64, #nixos-chat, #nixcon ... nixcon videos: https://tinyurl.com/nixcon2018
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #58550 → whois: 5.4.1 -> 5.4.2 → https://git.io/fjTdC
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nh2 merged pull request #54463 → gst-plugins-good: Add missing xfixes/xdamage dependencies → https://git.io/fh2ej
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nh2 pushed to master « gst-plugins-good: Add missing xfixes/xdamage dependencies. »: https://git.io/fjTpg
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @romildo opened pull request #58564 → xcur2png: init at 0.7.1 → https://git.io/fjTp6
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @nh2 merged pull request #57485 → srt: 1.3.1 -> 1.3.2 → https://git.io/fhjao
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<nh2> ryantm: so cool your automated update tooling like in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/57485
<{^_^}> #57485 (by r-ryantm, 2 weeks ago, merged): srt: 1.3.1 -> 1.3.2
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @pacien opened pull request #58565 → cgit: add support for default filters → https://git.io/fjTpd
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @romildo opened pull request #58566 → blur-effect: init at 1.1.3 → https://git.io/fjTpj
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<aanderse_> aanderse
<aanderse_> ... wrong window :)
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<elvishjerricco> To which underlying file systems do sandboxed builds write during the build? I assume it's just whatever file system /nix/store is on, so the output directories can be instantly moved from the chroot?
<elvishjerricco> And does that include the NIX_BUILD_TOP, or does that go to /tmp?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/fjThV
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<groodt> Hi. Is this the right place to ask about Darwin problems on Hydra?
<gchristensen> sure, though if it requires very specific knowledge you should know the only admin still awake is about to go sleep
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @geekware opened pull request #58567 → openmw: 0.44 -> 0.45 → https://git.io/fjTh6
<groodt> Thanks gchristensen. All good if people need to sleep of course. The question is around Darwin builds in sandbox and the jdk. I don't think it works on Hydra. Related to: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/58557
<{^_^}> #58557 (by groodt, 4 hours ago, open): bazel: 0.22.0 doesn't build in Darwin sandbox
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #58486 → openmw: 0.44 -> 0.45 → https://git.io/fjTRQ
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<groodt> I guess all the Darwin experts have gone to bed? :)
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<mabel> this is a pretty transcontinental bunch, I bet someone will be online later.
<groodt> thanks!
<groodt> I just need somebody who can kick off a Hydra build for the moment
<mabel> personally, I'm in need of an npm expert. I'd like to build a VS Code extension from scratch, rather than pulling from the gallery. there's a nice little toolchain for npm packages in nix, but it represents each dependency as a derivation.
<mabel> unfortunately, the npm dependencies for even a simple extension number in the high hundreds or low thousands
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<groodt> mabel, is the issue generating the derivations?
<groodt> There are normally tools to generate them. For node it is: https://github.com/svanderburg/node2nix
<mabel> the issue, last I remember, was that the sheer number of them overwhelmed my system
<groodt> I see, ok. That's surprising to me because I would think that they would cache.
<groodt> I've only ever used the tools to generate derivations for go, ruby, python.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #58495 → nika-fonts: init at 1.0.0 → https://git.io/fjTzV
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed commit from @LinArcX to master « nika-fonts: init at 1.0.0 (#58495) »: https://git.io/fjTjB
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<InFlames> can anyone help me to understand how to fix this? https://gist.github.com/gnarmedia/d120eb1f6a49b3338ff46a55ed3a602b I tried adding the gnumake package, but I don't think I am understanding correctly.
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<InFlames> I couldn't find a "make" package that clearly identified which one to be used
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<groodt> InFlames, just a guess. Try cmake
<simpson> InFlames: Have you seen the relevant section of the manual? https://nixos.org/nixpkgs/manual/#node.js-packages You'll likely want to check out node2nix: https://github.com/svanderburg/node2nix
<InFlames> I did see that and node2nix, and while that's an interesting project, I feel like it breaks the ecosystem is ways that I'm not entirely sure I understand yet
<simpson> Happens. npm deserves to be broken.
<simpson> Anyway, that's the recommended way to do things. Or at least the documented way.
<InFlames> this looks helpful, looks like I missed a few things last night, I'll try again
<InFlames> thank you
<InFlames> npm isn't perfect, but asking the ecosystem to bend to nix seems kinda hostile for anyone not on nix
<InFlames> now, I don't really know if that's required, but it did kinda seem like it was the idea
<InFlames> as for my own projects, it could be nice
<simpson> This is the nature of systems like Nix which obey the Principle of Least Authority: Many tools used to an ambient authority will break.
<simpson> The fact that some things are forbidden is precisely the strength of Nix.
<InFlames> I don't disagree
<InFlames> and as long as that solution won't impair use outside of nix, I'm all for it and perhaps should look back into it
<simpson> Oh, I suppose that we shouldn't confuse Nix's general capability-like design and POLA awareness with my own personal hostility towards npm/etc.
<InFlames> haha, I don't blame your hostility towards npm, they finally flattened the dependency tree and we still can't get the same package versions on all machines :/
<InFlames> oh, and added the lock file
<InFlames> I do wish fb didn't write yarn and instead worked to fix npm, but maybe that's just a choice I don't understand due to a lack of insight
<InFlames> I am happ to be back on nixos after 2 years away :D
<InFlames> it's gone a lot better so far, ahah
<InFlames> I was not ready last time
<simpson> Heh. I work on stuff like https://monte.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ and so my opinions are a little spicier. For example, require() should be removed entirely from every JS implementation.
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<InFlames> oh, very cool!
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<InFlames> I actually got back on nixos so maybe it'll force me to learn haskell, haha
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<gchristensen> it won't force you
<samueldr> I don't do haskell
<InFlames> I know :)
* gchristensen either
<InFlames> it might encourage me a little
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<gchristensen> cool :)
<InFlames> also gchristensen, thanks for the advice the other night and the blog post you wrote, it helped me figure stuff out
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<InFlames> I have temporarily given up on getting my dock working beyond video, haha
<kleisli> is it possible to specify which nixpkgs to use when running `nix-shell` ?
<InFlames> -p, isn't it?
<samueldr> yeah
<InFlames> yay, learning
<samueldr> which nixpkgs, InFlames, not which pkgs :)
<InFlames> oh
<simpson> kleisli: I think that the most common control that folks use is https://nixos.org/nix/manual/#env-NIX_PATH
<samueldr> kleisli: nix-shell -I nixpkgs=channel:nixos-16.09 -p hello
<samueldr> simpson's answer is more complete
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<samueldr> -I manipulates NIX_PATH for that invocation
<kleisli> ty guys
<simpson> samueldr++ for example usage
<{^_^}> samueldr's karma got increased to 63
<samueldr> simpson++ for linking to the docs
<{^_^}> simpson's karma got increased to 7
<samueldr> I forgot how I told myself a couple months ago that every answer should link to doc :/
<simpson> It's okay; I think that example usage is more useful than an RTFM, even a link-bearing one.
<samueldr> well, I do mean both, giving an example + source
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<mabel> decided to give it another try. I'm on "k"... node is a hell of a dependency monster
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Infinisil pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjkek
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Infinisil merged pull request #58458 → nixos/colord: don't run as root → https://git.io/fjTfe
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Infinisil merged pull request #54420 → nginxModules.http_proxy_connect_module: init → https://git.io/fhziq
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Infinisil pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjkeL
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<InFlames> ok, wow, node2nix was super straightforward, awesomer
<InFlames> awesome(
<InFlames> awesome**
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<InFlames> hmm, node2nix doesn't seem to have installed my dependency, I must be missing something
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #58422 → chafa: init at 1.0.1 → https://git.io/fjU1f
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<tA> long shot, but does anyone here play tome? im trying to find the addon folder
<laalf> can i write in a FHSUserEnv somehow?
<buckley310> like, you want it to be writable?
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<buckley310> (after it has been built)
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<InFlames> I am still so confused how to use node2nix to install my dev and production dependencies and then npm start my script :(
<laalf> buckley310: ye. seems like it is? idk. worked now
<buckley310> huh. ok
<elvishjerricco> InFlames: What have you tried?
<InFlames> node2nix --development , node2nix -d -i package.json, then nix-shell -p nodejs
<InFlames> I think I'm just highly confused how this all works no matter what I am reading
<InFlames> but I'll read more if there is any example on how this works
<InFlames> I know those 2 node2nix commands don't need to be run together, I ran them as two different attempts and tried them inside and outside the shell
<InFlames> ^ i tried to follow some of that elvishjerricco
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<InFlames> like currently I have a devDependency, browserify, and an npm script that calls it to bundle the package, but it says the command is not found
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<groodt> anybody here got the appropriate permissions to kick off a Hydra build?
<linarcx> Guys. How to find all packages that installed as dependecies of a derivation?
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<slack1256> linarcx: nix-store --query --references path/to/certain/derivation/realisation
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<linarcx> slack1256: Awesome :) Thank you.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #58568 → vale: 1.3.2 -> 1.4.0 → https://git.io/fjkvW
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #58569 → electron{,_3}: minor updates → https://git.io/fjkv8
<linarcx> slack1256: Also it's a better: ` nix-store --query --references $(nix eval --raw nixpkgs.zsh) `, agree?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #58570 → spleen: init at 1.0.4 → https://git.io/fjkv0
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<linarcx> And how to list all derivations installed declaratively via `configuraion.nix`?
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<Ashy> i would also like to know that
<Ashy> `nix-store --query --references /etc/nixos/configuration.nix` => error: path '/etc/nixos/configuration.nix' is not in the Nix store
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<ryantm> 21:35 < ryantm> `nixos-option environment.systemPackages` lists the ones that are installed as system packages
<Ashy> ryantm: sweet thanks
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<slack1256> Is there any way to change the "autogroup" of a process?
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<fresheyeball> anyone know how to get around this one?
<fresheyeball> can I do an overlay?
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<groodt> apologies for the spam, anybody available to kick off a Hydra build for me?
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<CMCDragonkai> When I used `haskell.lib.buildStrictly` it complains about `error: [-Wunused-top-binds, -Werror=unused-top-binds]`
<CMCDragonkai> How to allow haskell build to allow unused top binds?
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<smolboye[m]> hello
<smolboye[m]> does anyone else have this issue where starting firefox before connecting to the wifi causes it to keep showing "problem loading page" even after connecting to the wifi
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<linarcx> Anyone here use rust, rls, coc-rls together?
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<groodt> If anybody here has the ability to kick off a Hydra build, I'd love it if this was kicked off to test something: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/58557
<{^_^}> #58557 (by groodt, 9 hours ago, open): bazel: 0.22.0 doesn't build in Darwin sandbox
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<smolboye[m]> man, this reverse scrolling shit in kde really annoys me
<smolboye[m]> it automatically unsets itself randomly
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<monokrome> ,locate Xge.h
<{^_^}> Found in packages: xlibs.libXext.dev
<monokrome> O_o
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<groodt> anybody online with permissions to trigger Hydra builds?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu opened pull request #58574 → phpPackages.phpc(s|bf): 3.4.0 -> 3.4.1 → https://git.io/fjkTq
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu opened pull request #58575 → phpPackages.phpstan: 0.11.3 -> 0.11.5 → https://git.io/fjkTY
<etu> groodt: Link?
<etu> groodt: I can help you with that :)
<groodt> Thanks etu. This one would be great: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/58557
<{^_^}> #58557 (by groodt, 12 hours ago, open): bazel: 0.22.0 doesn't build in Darwin sandbox
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu opened pull request #58577 → gitea: 1.7.3 -> 1.7.5 → https://git.io/fjkTB
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<groodt> etu: I don't suppose you can trigger this one too please? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/58147
<{^_^}> #58147 (by groodt, 1 week ago, open): bazel: 0.22.0 -> 0.24.0
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos pushed to master « inxi: 3.0.32-1 -> 3.0.33-1 »: https://git.io/fjkTw
<groodt> thanks so much etu!
<etu> No worries :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @timokau pushed to master « vimPlugins: update (#58573) »: https://git.io/fjkTX
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<genesis> is there a tmp variable that point to "/tmp" ?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed 0 commits to haskell-outputs-bin-etc-lib: https://git.io/fjkTS
<tilpner> genesis: If you don't want to hardcode /tmp, consider mktemp
<genesis> in fact i try a workaround with that :
<genesis> source/headers/defines.h:#define PATH_TO_JOY_CONF_FILE DATADIR "/Configuration/joysticks.ini"
<genesis> with a substituteInPlace ...
<groodt> etu: I promise I won't make a habit of this. Would you mind kicking this one more time please? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/58147
<{^_^}> #58147 (by groodt, 1 week ago, open): bazel: 0.22.0 -> 0.24.0
<genesis> tilpner : so my idea is to replace with "/tmp" :)
<genesis> i think i've make a patch instead with getenv().
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<genesis> ,locate check-symbolic.svg
<{^_^}> Found in packages: greybird, plano-theme, tetra-gtk-theme
<genesis> so missing in Adwaita.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ma27 merged pull request #58514 → nodejs-11_x: 11.11.0 -> 11.13.0 → https://git.io/fjT6c
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @etu opened pull request #58579 → paps: init at 0.6.8 → https://git.io/fjkIi
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthiasbeyer opened pull request #58580 → vimpager: Init at 2.06 and master → https://git.io/fjkIH
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthiasbeyer opened pull request #58581 → semver-tool: init at 2.1.0 → https://git.io/fjkLf
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb merged pull request #58577 → gitea: 1.7.3 -> 1.7.5 → https://git.io/fjkTB
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjkLT
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb merged pull request #58578 → [19.03] gitea: 1.7.1 -> 1.7.5 → https://git.io/fjkkU
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb pushed 3 commits to release-19.03: https://git.io/fjkLk
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<etu> srhb: Thanks :)
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<srhb> etu: Working on fixing sqlite now.. :)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dywedir opened pull request #58583 → tokei: 9.0.0 -> 9.1.1 → https://git.io/fjkLp
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb opened pull request #58584 → gitea: Fix sqlite support and baked-in tags → https://git.io/fjkqe
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<etu> srhb++
<{^_^}> srhb's karma got increased to 43
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb opened pull request #58586 → [19.03] gitea: Fix sqlite support and baked-in tags → https://git.io/fjkqQ
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<gchristensen> newbie question. I'm trying to read objdump's results. anyone mind holding my hand a bit?
<clever> gchristensen: what are you trying to get out of objdump?
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<gchristensen> high level, I'm digging through https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/issues/8545. in the weeds, I'm wondering how https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/blob/zfs-0.7-release/module/zfs/vdev_disk.c#L702-L779 gets to be calling preempt_schedule_notrace, based on this `objdump -D vdev_disk.o`:
<{^_^}> zfsonlinux/zfs#8545 (by grahamc, 1 day ago, open): ZoL 0.7.13 + Linux Kernel 5.0.4: GPL-incompatible module zfs.ko uses GPL-only symbol 'preempt_schedule_notrace'
<clever> *looks*
<gchristensen> this problem is unique to aarch64
<clever> gchristensen: i think the first 3 b.eq opcodes are the case block
<clever> and the part after those 3 b.eq is the default:, confirmed via the set_error
<clever> offset b28 is one of the case sections
<clever> c80 is another
<clever> and 1148 is a 3rd
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to release-19.03: https://git.io/fjkO2
<clever> ea4: 94000000 bl 0 <preempt_schedule_notrace>
<clever> that puts the first preempt_schedule_notrace within the c80 bock
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<clever> and looking back at the source, the write and read blocks, simply set some flags, no function calls
<clever> ioctl will then do some calls and more switch
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<clever> gchristensen: of note, __vdev_disk_physio is static, so the compiler might inline it
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<clever> gchristensen: i think i would need a debug build to get more info, the compiler can add line number<->addr mappings, that greatly simplify this
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<gchristensen> nice
<gchristensen> ok, I'm working to grok what you've said already so I can learn some of this :)
<gchristensen> is there a trick for getting a debug build of a kernel module? separateDebugInfo = true ?
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<clever> 11cc: 52800be3 mov w3, #0x5f // #95
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/95 (by cpages, 6 years ago, merged): minecraft: update to 1.3.1
<clever> 11dc: 94000000 bl 0 <__set_error>
<clever> 1230: 94000000 bl 0 <preempt_schedule_notrace>
<clever> gchristensen: 95 is ENOTSUP
<clever> but its not clear if that helps any
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #57549 → Add the Janet programming language. → https://git.io/fhjbv
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed commit from @andrewchambers to master « janet: init at 0.4.0 (#57549) »: https://git.io/fjkOh
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<gchristensen> dontStrip = true;
<gchristensen> ?
<clever> not sure that will help any with kernels
<clever> a special CONFIG_ may need to be set
<clever> when building the zfs modules
<clever> you may also benefit from building zfs impurely, just inspect it
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @markuskowa merged pull request #58579 → paps: init at 0.7.0 → https://git.io/fjkIi
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<monokrome> seems like xlibs.libXext.dev is broken maybe?
<monokrome> /nix/store/8fq3isj94jy82ma6axw9hpp10kcjzsjj-libXi-1.7.9-dev/include/X11/extensions/XInput2.h:32:10: fatal error: X11/extensions/Xge.h: No such file or directory
<monokrome> #include <X11/extensions/Xge.h>
<monokrome> /nix/store/8fq3isj94jy82ma6axw9hpp10kcjzsjj-libXi-1.7.9-dev/include/X11/extensions/XInput2.h:32:10: fatal error: X11/extensions/Xge.h: No such file or directory
<monokrome> #include <X11/extensions/Xge.h>
<monokrome> O_o
<monokrome> any ideas?
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<clever> ,locate Xge.h
<{^_^}> Found in packages: xlibs.libXext.dev
<monokrome> It's in a shell w this configuration: https://gist.github.com/monokrome/199fe5af1b78be578d2b7e6d3b1c4c4a
<clever> /nix/store/m50nq82b5w5wc4c0r3fs47dsrrmkh0gp-libXext-1.3.3-dev/include/X11/extensions/Xge.h
<clever> monokrome: just xorg.libXext should get .dev for you
<monokrome> I thought so, but desperately debugging lol
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<clever> monokrome: and clang on line 6 probably wont work right, you probably clangStdenv
<monokrome> clang w sclangStdenv, or just the one?
<clever> just clangStdenv.mkDerivation
<clever> and then you get clang instead of gcc
<monokrome> hmm now it can't find the compiler
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<monokrome> says no compiler w clangStdenv
<clever> monokrome: then it probably isnt obeying $CC
<monokrome> It failed to find CXX
<monokrome> do I need to tell it to specificaly include C++
<monokrome> ?
<clever> $ nix-shell -E 'with import <nixpkgs>{}; clangStdenv.mkDerivation { name = "name"; }'
<clever> $ echo $CXX
<clever> clang++
<clever> monokrome: i can see a CXX here
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<monokrome> same
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<monokrome> maybe this project requires GCC O_o
<monokrome> ok so if I use gcc then we're back to the Xge issue
<monokrome> So, that gets to the same error again? O_o
<monokrome> seems like it's on the fs in /nix/store/niwyvr5cxsj5mzh37dhzi4zdpdgwqndv-libXext-1.3.3-dev/include/X11/extensions/Xge.h/nix/store/niwyvr5cxsj5mzh37dhzi4zdpdgwqndv-libXext-1.3.3-dev/include/X11/extensions/Xge.h
<monokrome> eep sorry, I keep double copying >.<
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<clever> monokrome: echo $NIX_CFLAGS_COMPILE
<monokrome> mm I added that output to the gist
<monokrome> reading now
<monokrome> that path isn't in it :o
<clever> monokrome: what args did you run nix-shell with?
<clever> -isystem /nix/store/3fhfmzlj2w31brqdb6wnp96kjds2s8zv-libXext-1.3.3-dev/include
<monokrome> nix-shell --command zsh
<clever> and yes, it is in the path
<monokrome> clever: The hash is different in that
<monokrome> or my search just isn't working
<monokrome> eeep wat grep found it
* monokrome esplodes
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<monokrome> same issue w/out any args, clever
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<monokrome> clever: How is it going to end up knowing to use $NIX_CFLAGS_COMPILE?
<monokrome> $CFLAGS seems to be empty
<clever> monokrome: gcc is a bash script, that will forcibly add those flags when calling the real gcc
<monokrome> oic
<gchristensen> https://zfs.datto.com/slides/behlendorf.pdf NixOS on page 3
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @markuskowa opened pull request #58589 → [WIP] openblas: fix aarch64 build → https://git.io/fjksK
<drakonis> NixOS is important
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<worldofpeace> It is ! :)
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<Aleksejs> Hi, Can someone help me? I'm rebuilding nixos on RPi 3 model B, but new generation does not appear and changes are not available after restart
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<clever> Aleksejs: is /boot/ correctly mounted?
<Aleksejs> clever: I guess. I followed instructions on nixos.org
<clever> Aleksejs: double-check it in `mount`
<Aleksejs> clever: /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /boot vfat
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<Aleksejs> Also, thebsecond partition is mounted as both / and /nix/store - is it right
<Aleksejs> ?
<gchristensen> yea
<Aleksejs> Sorry for typos, I'm on the phone
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<samueldr> :/ the logo was mirrored in that slide!
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<worldofpeace> samueldr: wait it soo is. It's like living on the other side of Nix
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<avn> Folks, does anyone use intero in nixos?
<DigitalKiwi> that would require using stack and stack is whack
<avn> well, `stack --nix` usually works ;)
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<das_j> I'm trying to build a static package using `nix-build '<nixpkgs>' pkgsStatic.mumsi`. However, while bootstrapping musl (which is required for the static builds I think), it fails with: attempted static link of dynamic object `/nix/store/w63dw8j8qm3618hfjnsi3fy5lawfnqhz-x86_64-unknown-linux-musl-stage-final-gcc-debug-7.3.0/x86_64-unknown-linux-musl/lib/../lib64/libstdc++.so
<das_j> So what's wrong with the build?
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<avn> DigitalKiwi: any alternatives to intero, which works with nix/nixos well?
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<infinisil> avn: I've been using haskell-ide-engine, which works pretty well with cabal
<das_j> Oh it also doesn't work with makeStaticBinaries and unstable
<avn> infinisil: would it works with `stack --nix`?
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<infinisil> avn: HIE (haskell-ide-engine) also has stack support yes, but I haven't tried it. And I don't like using stack with Nix, doesn't make for a great experience all around
<callmecabman> has anybody used the nixos+ganeti combo for smallscale virtualization?
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<avn> infinisil: otherwise I will be asked, why I not use any linux well compatible with stack. :/ I prefer personally not use ide at all, but sometimes pressed into it
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<infinisil> avn: Ah, NixOS isn't incompatible with stack at all, stack is only a hassle when you want to get nix builds of stack projects
<infinisil> Afaik
<DigitalKiwi> avn: dante if you emacs
<infinisil> avn: HIE is a bit new though, so you might run into some trouble, maybe try something like dante or intero instead (I haven't tried those though)
<infinisil> And I think VSCode also has pretty good haskell integration with some plugins
<DigitalKiwi> stack has never worked for me on any os
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<avn> infinisil: I heard a lot from my collegues that I MUST use intero, but when I google how to do it, I haven't see any useable walkthru
<avn> infinisil: I look on possibility of emacs+doom-emacs+intero if it will works
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<infinisil> With lesser-used technologies it is often the case that you won't find an easy walkthrough/tutorial, the official readme's are your best help in such cases
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<infinisil> avn: Well it might work, but as with everything in emacs, it might take a bit to set it up how you want. There's also spacemacs which comes with a good default (vim) setup, with haskell support
<infinisil> And if you don't need to use an IDE(-like thing), you can just go for a simple text editor + ghcid, which i hear is pretty good
<infinisil> avn: There was a reddit post about favorite Haskell IDE's recently, check it out too: https://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/b3uze4/favorite_haskell_ide/
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<avn> infinisil: I generally ok with emacs, but both doom/spacemacs is out-of-nix things, and I always worrying how to integrate it. And how feed existing `stack --nix` project to nix-installed intero
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<infinisil> stack should work out of the box, even on NixOS
<infinisil> Well, you might need to add a little bit of nix stuff to stack.yaml, but that's very easy
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<infinisil> avn: I guess it would be nice if there was an overview somewhere regarding what Haskell setups work how well with Nix
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<avn> infinisil: I currently use `stack build --nix mycode` and it works well (I have some stack-shell.nix bounded, and it works)
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<averell> mergathon
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<genesis> averell : each time they close a PR i'll create a new.
<genesis> gnignigni
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace opened pull request #58595 → yarn2nix: move to aliases.nix → https://git.io/fjkEO
<Ralith> if we're doing merge sprees, anyone want to have a look at https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/55959 ? there's a semi-open style question in it
<{^_^}> #55959 (by Ralith, 5 weeks ago, open): Update Vulkan packages
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<infinisil> Ralith: Hmm, what's with all the overrideAttrs to change the source? Can't we just use a single version everywhere?
<Ralith> infinisil: per discusison on the issue, we cannot; each use site of glslang specifically requires a different revision
<Ralith> blame google's inability to package anything sanely :P
<infinisil> Ah sorry didn't read properly
<infinisil> Ralith: That seems good to merge to me then, also good from your side?
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<Ralith> to my knowledge this is as good as the nix idioms are going to get for it, and it's otherwise a mundane update + one significant bugfix
<infinisil> Oh hmm the headers propagatedBuildInputs thing
<Ralith> yeah, I'm not sure what the proper idiom is there
<Ralith> thoughts?
<infinisil> I'm not sure about that, shouldn't the packages that need the headers include them directly?
<infinisil> I've never seen propagatedBuildInputs being used like that
<Ralith> historically the headers were part of the loader package even upstream, so I added that for backwards compat; however, nobody noticed that it was broken in 18.09, so I'm not averse to getting rid of their inclusion entirely
<Ralith> I don't think it's a terribly weird use of popagatedBuildInputs though
<Ralith> what's it for, if not that?
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<infinisil> Things like python I thought, where if you depend on foo, you also depend on all dependencies of foo, at runtime
<infinisil> Or something like that
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<Ralith> it's build inputs, not runtime dependencies
<infinisil> Hm yeah
<Ralith> I think it also comes up whenever you have a C/C++ library whose headers include the headers of some other library, for example
<infinisil> You mentioned that it fixes a regression in master, what is that?
<Ralith> vulkan-loader's copy of the headers are currently installed in $out/vulkan instead of $out/include/vulkan
<Ralith> so clang/gcc won't find them
<infinisil> I see a $dev output too though
<infinisil> The headers aren't there either?
<Ralith> vulkan-loader's copy of the headers are currently installed in $dev/vulkan instead of $dev/include/vulkan, I should say
<Ralith> or $dev is empty
<infinisil> Ah
<Ralith> I forget how it shakes out but it's wrong :P
<Ralith> they are there, but they are at the wrong path
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<infinisil> Hmm they're in $dev/vulkan/*.h
<Ralith> because cp has annoying implicit behavior depending on whether the destination directory exists or not
<Ralith> yes, which is useless
<infinisil> Wouldn't a better fix be to just install them in $dev/include/vulkan/*.h?
<Ralith> why is that better?
<infinisil> Because that's the standard location, our c compilers and stuff all look for headers there
<Ralith> they are installed in ${vulkan-headers.dev}/include/vulkan/*.h, which is also the standard location
<Ralith> using propagatedBuildInputs instead of re-installing them somewhere else removes the opportunity for error
<infinisil> Huh, so why does vulkan-loaders also have headers? Are these the same headers?
<Ralith> historically the headers were part of the loader package even upstream, so I added that for backwards compat; however, nobody noticed that it was broken in 18.09, so I'm not averse to getting rid of their inclusion entirely
<Ralith> that is to say, upstream moved the headers into a new package, and I sought to preserve backwards-compat with the original package
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<infinisil> I see, yeah that sounds better actually
<Ralith> getting rid of the inclusion entirely?
<infinisil> Yeah
<infinisil> People will notice, in which case they can just add `vulkan-headers` themselves
<Ralith> kk
<infinisil> We don't need to fix everything upstream messes up ourselves :P
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji merged pull request #58590 → i3status-rust: 0.9.0.2019-02-15 -> 0.9.0.201-03-21 → https://git.io/fjkn4
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<Ralith> infinisil: pushed
<Ralith> (the dev output still contains the pkg-config file)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Infinisil merged pull request #55959 → Update Vulkan packages → https://git.io/fh51a
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<infinisil> Ralith: Yeah saw that when I built it
<infinisil> Ralith: Thanks for keeping vulkan stuff up-to-date :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @samueldr merged pull request #53165 → uthash: 2.0.2 -> 2.1.0 → https://git.io/fhqvO
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<Ralith> thanks for the review!
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<Ralith> I actively develop with this stuff and maintaining a copy in nixpkgs is not appreciably more difficult than doing so out-of-tree
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<Ralith> infinisil: you should probably close https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/56140 while you're at it
<{^_^}> #56140 (by MP2E, 5 weeks ago, open): Vulkan utilities version bump
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Infinisil closed pull request #56140 → Vulkan utilities version bump → https://git.io/fhF3P
<infinisil> Ralith: Oh nice, I want to play around with vulkan too at some point
<infinisil> Oh I did actually already, but only for a bit, with https://github.com/vulkano-rs/vulkano
<Ralith> I spent some time with vulkano but ultimately moved to ash
<samueldr> reviewing a specific PR, and the packaged font doesn't have a license; I'm unsure whether meta.license should be an empty list or just dropped in that case
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<Ralith> vulkano manages to be a thick heavyweight abstraction that requires massive amounts of effort to go off the beaten path with, without actually delivering on its promised safety improvements
<Ralith> plus with ash everything's 1:1 so you can easily reference standard vulkan documentation and examples
<infinisil> Ralith: -> #nixos-chat
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<rycee> samueldr: If no license is specified anywhere then I guess it should be treated as unfree. I suspect it technically actually is completely unredistributable.
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<samueldr> yeah, that's a given; though does nixpkgs+hydra treat a lack of license the same as unfree+unredistributable?
<samueldr> if so, when it's "unknown" rather than "unfree", would it be semantically appropriate to not put meta.license, or an empty list?
<samueldr> just like saying "yes, we don't know the license" instead of "this is unfree"
<rycee> That I don't know, but it is certainly an interesting question.
<samueldr> (the nixpkgs manual has nothing specifically about that subject AFAICT)
<rycee> Ideally we should have licenses on all packages. I think it is pretty unfortunate that it is missing on many.
<samueldr> or better yet a specific unknown license flag
<rycee> Since it is missing on so many I suspect a missing license attribute is treated as "free".
<samueldr> because here in this case it looks like some sandard files from a governmental entity, but the source used from them has no attribution :/
<rycee> Or rather, it is built by Hydra and possibly cached as well?
<samueldr> in fact I'm thinking maybe the PR should be blocked until a more upstream homepage+repo is used?
<rycee> samueldr: Do you have the PR link?
<samueldr> #57943
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/57943 (by LinArcX, 1 week ago, open): ir-standard-fonts: init at d36727d
<samueldr> the only somewhat upstream link I found leads to a 403 Forbidden page, which could be related to geopolitics...
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<samueldr> (and here they author of the PR I suspect has used "unlicense" thinking it meant "unlicensed" or "unknown", and wasn't the name of a specific license)
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<rycee> samueldr: I opened one of the TTFs and the copyright field says "Typeface © The scict.ir Corporation plc. Data © The scict.ir Corporation plc/Type Solutions Inc. 2012-2013. All Rights Reserved - Modify by Hossein Zahedi."
<samueldr> heh, that's something I was going to suggest about how to find more details about that, but also, copyright != license
<samueldr> and yeah, scict.ir is giving me 403 Forbidden here
<rycee> I was mainly thinking about the "All Rights Reserved", to me that seems very non-free. From what I can tell it shouldn't be on github at all.
<samueldr> same
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<samueldr> there is another repo, older, which seems to have the same fonts, as webfonts, but I'm not convinced the license is right https://github.com/kyte-group/persian-fonts
<rycee> Arch lists it with an unknown license: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ir-standard-fonts/
<samueldr> yeah
<samueldr> rycee: :) looks like my hunches were good since you're doing what I did (don't stop, this is good)
<averell> disagree about the "All Rights Reserved" part. looks like that means basically nothing.
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<samueldr> averell: care to elaborate?
<averell> You can have MIT licensed stuff for example with this line. https://opensource.stackexchange.com/questions/2121/mit-license-and-all-rights-reserved
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<averell> it seems mostly historical, and doesn't look to have any license relation
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<samueldr> yeah, like I said "copyright != license"
<samueldr> so it's not good to base assumptions solely on that
<samueldr> but still, many Free fonts will use that field to add the license name
<samueldr> (which again, means nothing for these specific fonts :/)
<averell> Ok. But even copyright is unaffected by that line. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_rights_reserved#Obsolescence (Not helpful here, but it also doesn't restrict anything beyond "unknown")
<rycee> averell: But it just says "All rights reserved", there is no addition that qualifies this statement. The MIT license example is essentially "All rights reserved except for this and this and this…"
<averell> Yes, but you don't have to say "All rights reserved" to reserve any rights anyway.
<averell> So if we have other unknown licenses not saying this, that should IMO be treated the same.
<rycee> Yeah, so it doesn't really add anything :-)
<rycee> In any case, if anybody knows Persian the http://scict.ir/ site is on wayback machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20181117233325/http://scict.ir/
<rycee> I see nothing related to fonts there :-)
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<samueldr> found the font archive in an earlier snapshot of the site, with a (persian) readme.txt
<samueldr> nothing specific to licensing though :/
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<samueldr> google translate in chrome is quite fancy
<averell> technically? or is the translation good?
<samueldr> seems good, and technically
<samueldr> good mainly for getting the gist of where you are in the site, but not "good translation"
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<averell> could ping the github guy to add a license to his repo. he was active in january.
<samueldr> and looks like the scict.ir domain expired and was bought by one of those spam site around 2017-18, which explains the lack of fonts details
* samueldr sighs
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<MichaelRaskin> Are spammers US-based? Can we report them for Dealing With Iran?
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<samueldr> no idea, I don't really care :/
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<rycee> samueldr: I added some comments in the PR, for the license I suggested unfree. There is no unknown option from what I can tell.
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<samueldr> yeah, and from the sleuthing I did in check-meta.nix, it looks like that as long as it doesn't have "free = false" anythin in the license field is seen as free
<samueldr> > isUnfree = licenses: lib.lists.any (l: !l.free or true) licenses
<{^_^}> isUnfree defined
<samueldr> > isUnfree [ "unknown" ]
<{^_^}> false
<samueldr> and that string is used in a bunch of generated packages :)
<samueldr> > isUnfree [ lib.licenses.unfree ]
<{^_^}> true
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<qyliss> that doesn't seem good
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<samueldr> qyliss: pretty sure it isn't :/
<rycee> Probably would be nice to have an entry like `unknown = { fullName = "License terms unknown"; free = false; };` in licenses.
<samueldr> yeah
<rycee> And replace the "unknown" with it.
<samueldr> though `hasDeniedUnfreeLicense` is a bit more complex, and uses that. The lack of of license (rather than "unknown") would be treated as unfree
* samueldr might have misread
<samueldr> it's defined if it has a license defined
<samueldr> and it's unfree
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<rycee> I think it warrants a discussion on http://discourse.nixos.org/
<rycee> But I have to head to bed :-)
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