gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos to: NixOS stable: 18.09, beta: 19.03 https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-19-03-feature-freeze/1950 || https://nixos.org || Latest NixOS: https://nixos.org/nixos/download.html || Latest Nix: https://nixos.org/nix/download.html || Logs: https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos/ || #nixos-dev, #nix-darwin, #nixos-aarch64, #nixos-chat, #nixcon ... nixcon videos: https://tinyurl.com/nixcon2018
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji merged pull request #58083 → ricty: 4.1.0 -> 4.1.1 → https://git.io/fjfAL
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji merged pull request #58048 → dateutils: 0.4.5 -> 0.4.6 → https://git.io/fjfHu
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « dateutils: 0.4.5 -> 0.4.6 (#58048) »: https://git.io/fjJrX
<mog> could someone add stumpwm-contrib to nixpkgs.lispPackages.stumpwm
<mog> id be their best friend
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji closed pull request #57406 → python37Packages.fonttools: 3.37.3 -> 3.38.0 → https://git.io/fhjn5
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji merged pull request #57352 → pacman: 5.1.2 -> 5.1.3 → https://git.io/fhjIA
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « pacman: 5.1.2 -> 5.1.3 (#57352) »: https://git.io/fjJrM
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji merged pull request #58040 → riot-web: 1.0.3 -> 1.0.5 → https://git.io/fjf9n
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @xeji pushed commit from @nyanloutre to master « riot-web: 1.0.3 -> 1.0.5 (#58040) »: https://git.io/fjJrH
<srhb> mog: It's already in the top level pkgs.stumpwm, is that not enough?
<mog> that pkg is dead
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<mog> its been marked broken for a long time , if you enable stumwm it uses the nixpkgs.lispPackages.stumpwm
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @cpages pushed to release-19.03 « kodi: 18.0 -> 18.1 »: https://git.io/fjJrQ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #57932 → stagit: 0.6 -> 0.9.1 → https://git.io/fjf37
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<srhb> mog: I see.
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<infinisil> > lispPackages.stumpwm.meta.description
<{^_^}> "A tiling, keyboard driven window manager"
<clever> infinisil: i use ratpoison when i need something keyboard drive, but i dont think it has much tiling in it
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #57522 → it87: init at 2018-08-14 → https://git.io/fhjMe
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjJrh
<infinisil> xmonad masterrace
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #57988 → buildbot: 1.8.1 -> 2.1.0 → https://git.io/fjfwT
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/fjJrj
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<Zer000> xmonad is boss
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<aanderse> sigh
<{^_^}> aanderse: 7 hours, 25 minutes ago <infinisil> If you haven't seen it already: https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/42
<aanderse> does toINI not allow key values without a section header?
<aanderse> also, thanks infinisil i did see :)
<infinisil> aanderse: Unfortunately it doesn't :(
<aanderse> well that needs to be fixed
* aanderse looks at the code
<aanderse> well that needs to be fixed... by a functional programmer -_-
<infinisil> Hehe
<infinisil> The key value generator functions are so general and confusing unfortunately :/
<aanderse> yeah. adoption to your RFC would be eased by some love in the generators file
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<slack1256> Zer000: xmonad days are numbered! the wayland apocalypse is near!
<aanderse> alright who feels like merging a basic PR? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/57114
<{^_^}> #57114 (by aanderse, 2 weeks ago, open): kdevelop, kdev-php, kdev-python: 5.3.1 -> 5.3.2
<aanderse> hmm no... who feels like merging 2 basic prs: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/57973
<{^_^}> #57973 (by aanderse, 3 days ago, open): monitoring-plugins: compile missing mysql, ldap, dig, procs, and dbi executables
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @peti pushed to haskell-updates « hackage-packages.nix: automatic Haskell package set update »: https://git.io/fjJo8
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<haslersn[m]> Where can I view the unstable NixOS manual? If nowhere, how to build it?
<slack1256> you can checkout the nixpkgs repo and read the manual there (or build the html with it)
<haslersn[m]> What package is the manual?
<clever> haslersn[m]: its the default.nix in the doc dir of nixpkgs
<clever> nix-build '<nixpkgs/doc>'
<clever> i believe
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<clever> ah, that the nixpkgs manual, not the nixos manual
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<clever> $ nix-build '<nixpkgs/nixos/release.nix>' -A manualHTML
<clever> thats the nixos one
<haslersn[m]> Thanks
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<slack1256> I've never understood what the strings '<nixpkgs>' or '<nixpkgs/nixos>' refer to on nix-* utilities.
<slack1256> Those aren't environment variables
<gchristensen> NIX_PATH entries
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* slack1256 has been enlighten
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<slack1256> enlightened!
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<siraben> When I switch to a tty window and log in I get a "zsh not found", any possible causes?
<siraben> zsh works fine in the regular i3 sesion
<siraben> session*
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rvl closed pull request #58154 → pythonPackages.zeep: Enable test suite for Python 3 → https://git.io/fjJCv
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<slack1256> siraben: care to share your configuration.nix file?
<slack1256> you can probably solve it putting `programs.zsh.enable = true;` but that won't solve the issue of why aren't the environment variables set correctly
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<slack1256> siraben: you don't have zsh installed system wide though
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<siraben> slack1256: what's the difference between putting programs.zsh.enable = true and adding it to system wide packages?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @volth closed pull request #57223 → strace: download source from github instead of strace.io (the domain is down) → https://git.io/fhhDJ
<slack1256> siraben: I don't know the detail, but some extra config can be done programs.zsh if you want
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<siraben> I see.
<siraben> Can anyone else confirm that tor-browser-bundle-bin cannot be built due to a failed curl of https://github.com/TheTorProject/gettorbrowser/releases/download/v8.0.6/tor-browser-linux64-8.0.6_en-US.tar.xz ?
<siraben> https://hydra.nixos.org/build/89542803 is an old job from last month
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #57663 → fix: csound-manual by using newer git revision → https://git.io/fje6A
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl pushed commit from @hlolli to master « fix: csound-manual by using newer git revision (#57663) »: https://git.io/fjJ64
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #57825 → autossh: fix for cross compilation → https://git.io/fjv0J
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda merged pull request #58019 → qutebrowser: 1.6.0 -> 1.6.1 → https://git.io/fjfPh
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda pushed to master « qutebrowser: 1.6.0 -> 1.6.1 (#58019) »: https://git.io/fjJiU
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda closed pull request #57176 → pythonPackages.joblib: 0.12.4 -> 0.13.2 → https://git.io/fhh64
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda merged pull request #57906 → python.pkgs.joblib: 0.12.4 -> 0.13.2 → https://git.io/fjfTG
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<hyper_ch> Mic92: been using zfs trim patch now for about a month. All works fine so far. Just updated my local system to latest trim patch and zfs master
<DigitalKiwi> hyper_ch: how do you do that?
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<Mic92> hyper_ch: I suggest to publish your zfs packae override in the nixos.wiki. I would not want to include this patch into our zfsUnstable since this can make it difficult to upgrade the package.
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<hyper_ch> Mic92: will do so
<hyper_ch> Mic92: how do you do a package overwrite? I just cloned nixos, made branch and edite the default.nix
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<Mic92> hyper_ch: mhm. It was a bit tricky for kernel module patches. I have to look it up again.
<hyper_ch> Mic92: I'll just pastebin my altered default.nix
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<rnhmjoj> how do i fix a haskell package that is marked as broken?
<rnhmjoj> should i just override and set `broken = false` in configuration-common.nix?
<Mic92> hyper_ch: you might want to refer to a concrete commit instead of https://patch-diff.githubusercontent.com/raw/zfsonlinux/zfs/pull/8419.diff
<Mic92> otherwise it breaks whenever the pr is updated
<AlexRice[m]> rnhmjoj: There's an option to allow install of broken packages
<rnhmjoj> Alex Riche: i mean i want to fix it in nixpkgs
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<AlexRice[m]> I guess if it is fixed then remove the broken = true flag
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<rnhmjoj> i figured it out: there's a yaml configuration file that specifies broken packages, from which the nix configuration is generated
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<jasongrossman> hyper_ch++
<{^_^}> hyper_ch's karma got increased to 1
<hyper_ch> Mic92: how do you do that?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rnhmjoj opened pull request #58199 → haskellPackages.superbuffer: fix build → https://git.io/fjJiP
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<linarcx> Gyus. what is the job of `makeWrapper`?
<linarcx> Someone ask me this:
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<linarcx> `instead if the program should use makeWrapper to include aria and libnotify in the PATH?`
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<etu> linarcx: Makewrapper creates a shellscript that wraps the actual binary, in this script you can add things to the environment variable PATH to make additional programs available for this program that you wrap even if the user haven't installed this program in their global path.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace merged pull request #57511 → krita: 4.1.7.101 -> 4.1.8 → https://git.io/fhji3
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/fjJij
<etu> linarcx: That makes the program run even in a sanboxed environment because it's easier to make sure that all dependencies are available
<etu> linarcx: Example here in my PR: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/58201/files -- I added PATH with unzip so composer knows where to find that program :-)
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<linarcx> How to use `makeWrapper` properly for create a python package?
<srhb> linarcx: Try grepping the python tree for wrapProgram
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb pushed commit from @dtzWill to release-19.03 « slack: 3.3.7 -> 3.3.8 »: https://git.io/fjJPZ
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<linarcx> srhb: How?
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<srhb> linarcx: grep wrapProgram -r pkgs/development/python-modules or something like that :)
<linarcx> srhb: How?
<srhb> linarcx: Huh?
<linarcx> etu: Thank you for explanation.
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<fendor> someone persuaded me to use btrfs for my partition. Second later, I was told that it is horrible idea. Any experience with having btrfs with NixOS? Should I reinstall?
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<Yaniel> not necessarily but you definitely should have proper backups
<linarcx> srhb: Sorry, i'v been disconnected!
<linarcx> Guys, what this mean: `Builder called die: Cannot wrap '/nix/store/60pw8zadixdlf1nyb8g1nxy3v0p7f7xy-persepolis-3.1.0/bin/persepolis' because it is not an executable file`
<linarcx> Backtrace:
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<srhb> fendor: I'm one of the people who had bad experiences with btrfs.
<srhb> fendor: As in, it ate my datas. :)
<srhb> fendor: In my experience, btrfs is really great until it isn't.
<fendor> srhb, yeah, my friend told me the same. But i want to be lazy :(
<srhb> I'll be waiting a bit longer and then switching to bcachefs, fwiw.
<srhb> fendor: Using zfs is much the same experience with the same advantages.
<fendor> Yaniel, funny, everyone says the same :D i suppose I should reinstall
<srhb> fendor: But without the suddenly datas are gone.
<AlexRice[m]> fendor: remember its very easy to reinstall nixos
<fendor> srhb, thought zfs is more suitable for servers?
<fendor> AlexRice[m], it is, but copying my home directory still takes several hours
<srhb> fendor: It's perfectly suitable for laptops and desktops as well, for the same reasons.
<AlexRice[m]> fair
<srhb> fendor: It's a bit more involved than ye olde ext4 setup, so expect a learning curve initially. But it's not bad.
<srhb> And it has a ton of features I wouldn't live without..
<Yaniel> fendor:no seriously you should have backups in every case
<srhb> True true.
<fendor> I am still struggling with nixos, I dont know if I can handle another learning curve
<Yaniel> but yeah btrfs is new and has had lots of problems
<fendor> Yaniel, I know... but I am stupid CS student, and it is a great way to clean your notebook every 2 years
<srhb> xD
<Yaniel> supposedly many of them are fixed now but idk and I don't have the energy to find out
<gchristensen> this reminds me, nix doesn't support writing a store on pingfs :(
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<srhb> gchristensen: ...
<fendor> also, nix doesnt solve all my problems, like automatically backing up my data, securely and reliable
<fendor> *joke*
<gchristensen> yes, srhb? =)
<fendor> failed to deliver that joke
<srhb> gchristensen: pingfs sounds terrifying. :P
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<MichaelRaskin> I use btrfs for /nix/store and it has been quite a while (in years) since I last had an actual problem
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<MichaelRaskin> Of course, overfulling it is a problem, but I use LVM2 and grow/shrink it sometimes
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<MichaelRaskin> I still use ext4 for /home/
<gchristensen> srhb: pingfs is perfect for the cases when your network has just too much buffer going unused
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<MichaelRaskin> gchristensen: you want to say this is a tool to convince people to do something about bufferbloat?
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<fendor> MichaelRaskin, I was told I have to do some gardening?
<srhb> gchristensen: :P
<gchristensen> :D
<Yaniel> the biggest acute issue I had with btrfs was when it occasionally decided "hey your fs metadata takes as much space as your actual files now"
<MichaelRaskin> Yaniel: looking inside was even funnier
<MichaelRaskin> The metadata is so fragmented it takes as many _chunks_ as the actual data at ~ 5% density!
<Yaniel> and the chunks are huge...
<MichaelRaskin> Of course
<Yaniel> that's why jolla decided to just run the defragmenter every week if the device was plugged in
<MichaelRaskin> Nowadays it seem to balance a bit better, so when I fill the FS too much it is actually with data
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<Yaniel> before eventually switching to ext4
<MichaelRaskin> You mean rebalancer?
<Yaniel> whatever it's called
<MichaelRaskin> The difference is that rebalancer doesn't touch actually full (but maybe fragmented) chunks
<MichaelRaskin> fendor: I think nowadays backing up the data reliably requires a CNC
<Yaniel> a what
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<MichaelRaskin> Numerically-controlled drill
<Yaniel> lol
<Yaniel> literally carving your backups in stone?
<MichaelRaskin> Stainless steel is fine for personal stuff
<Yaniel> actually isn't there some bluray derivative that does basically that
<Yaniel> m-disc
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<gchristensen> (the ol' 3-2-1 method works fine, fendor)
<fendor> gchristensen, sorry, too young to know the 3-2-1 method?
<gchristensen> maybe I can find you one which isn't trying to sell you its product
<MichaelRaskin> Well, the article is actually quite OK slaes-wise.
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<fendor> gchristensen, thanks :) I dont think more explanations are necessary
<MichaelRaskin> I mean, they are quite neutral in their explanation — of course it is clear that they would be happy to sell you services for that remote storage part, but not too pushy.
<gchristensen> an older solving of offsite backups would be a safety deposit box at your bank
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<gchristensen> or sending a hard drive to a sibling
<fendor> gchristensen, I would never dare to send a hard drive to one of my siblings... thats worse than no back up
<gchristensen> haha
<aanderse> i have 2 trusted friends who are located on different parts of the continent, all 3 of us making a good spread
<aanderse> we have a backup agreement with each other
<gchristensen> do you encrypt, so you don't need to trust each other _too_ much? :)
<MichaelRaskin> Note that without encryption it would be trusting each other not to ever let people who can catch malware near the machines in question.
<aanderse> i only backup truly important data with these friends, family photos
<aanderse> encryption only adds another point of failure, so no
<gchristensen> ah, and not so secret
<aanderse> i do not store other information offsite as i hadn't deemed it important enough
<MichaelRaskin> … until you understand that fingerprints of the entire family can be deduced from the photo archive …
<aanderse> locally 3 pcs, 2 of which are always in sync, and the third is synced whenever it is turned on
<aanderse> had a 4th pc in the mix.... but it is collecting dust in the basement
<aanderse> oh yeah and nm i had to scavage its main hard drive
<aanderse> so it is out of the mix
<aanderse> also, usb hard drive which i try to plugin monthly...
<MichaelRaskin> All my three actually-updated compies of some stuff do meet in the same place quite often. On the other hand, I am not sure how realistic it is for them to become unrecoverable without _me_ becoming unrecoverable as well…
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<MichaelRaskin> (Destroying an off HDD is not completely trivial, after all)
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<noonien> hmm, i remember reading something about testing with nix
<MichaelRaskin> I _should_ actually abuse my privilege of having a job with a personal office and keep one copy there. I guess the fourth one (laptop, nightly home backup, office backup, backpack backup)
<MichaelRaskin> noonien: testing what?
<noonien> is there something that facilitates testing with nix?
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<noonien> apart from doCheck, etc
<MichaelRaskin> Hydra as CI? Although there is an upfront setup/learning effort
<LnL> I suspect what you heard about is the nixos vm testing
<noonien> hmm, i believe so, it had nothing to do with hydra
<hyper_ch> DigitalKiwi: have you tried already?
<gchristensen> noonien: https://grahamc.com/blog/an-epyc-nixos-build-farm#nixos-tests maybe check this out?
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<LnL> noonien: with nixos it's very easy to build a custom iso or vm based on a specific config
<LnL> all the nixos tests essentially do is build a vm that also includes a test script and run that
<noonien> oh, so there's nothing related to nix specifically, perhaps i've misread
<MichaelRaskin> Well, the tooling is NixOS-specific
<gchristensen> Nix is a simple language with a couple special primitives, and has allowed us to build very unique and very special testing tools
<noonien> i know when building nixpkgs, sometimes tests are run as well, i'm guessing that's what i've probably read about
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<noonien> gchristensen, LnL, MichaelRaskin: thanks for clarifying!
<noonien> interesting!
<noonien> i'm also reading gchristensen's link right now
<betawaffle> gchristensen: is there something special i need to do to get the nixos installer to work on a system76 laptop?
<gchristensen> the bittorrent test still blows me away
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<gchristensen> betawaffle: hmmm don't think so
<betawaffle> when i select it in grub, it never shows up. just a black screen
<noonien> gchristensen: woah, interesting!
<noonien> is this test run by hydra every time that test's dependencies change?
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<gchristensen> yea
<noonien> woah, awesome. so every time nixpkgs changes, but those test's dependencies don't change, the test is not run, correct?
<gchristensen> right
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<noonien> awesome
<noonien> is there a log for why the test was run? so for example, which of its direct dependencie has changed?
<gchristensen> no, because nix doesn't track dependencies having *changed*
<gchristensen> all Nix does is know given these inputs I haven't created its result yet
<LnL> you could diff the inputs between the 2 builds, but you'd have to do that yourself
<betawaffle> gchristensen: what should i do to try and debug why nothing is showing up on the screen after grub?
<gchristensen> LnL: we could teach hydra nix-diff =)
<LnL> yeah, that would be super cool
<noonien> that makes sense, but, on a higher level, a nix expression imports a variable, not a hash. so it might be useful to see what has changed. this seems to be as easy as diff-ing the .drv and resolving to proper package names
<noonien> perhaps it wouldn't be as usefull, if it wasn't needed so far
<aanderse> you ever write code in another language, then quickly switch to nix, and wonder why you get weird errors... then notice you used "//" as a comment line? -_-
<JosW> Is there someone who can point me to an examaple setup to provide a couple of NixOs vm's for pen testing?
<JosW> I want to try to get my friend who teaches IT classes to use NixOs for spinning up vm's but have troubel to confince him because I'm still very new to using NixOs
<gchristensen> noonien: at a high level, Nix creates everything from scratch every time -- this is why it isn't so trivial
<gchristensen> noonien: the idea of comparing two builds would be bolted on top
<noonien> yup, it would be part of hydra tooling
<noonien> but, i guess, since hydra just evaluates a single nix experssion, which turns to a set of build tasks, the reason why a package needs to be rebuilt is kind of outside its scope
<gchristensen> yeah. I mean, it does already have *some* comparison features
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<linarcx> Guys, what this mean: `Builder called die: Cannot wrap '/nix/store/60pw8zadixdlf1nyb8g1nxy3v0p7f7xy-persepolis-3.1.0/bin/persepolis' because it is not an executable file`
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<{^_^}> [nix] @domenkozar merged pull request #2693 → scripts: remove default 'sandbox = false' from multi-user installer → https://git.io/fjJXz
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @volth opened pull request #58206 → perldevel: 5.29.6 -> 5.29.9 → https://git.io/fjJXV
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<noonien> when using nix-build, can i change the output path? instead of `result`, could i have perhaps `result/<date>/<some-var>/<hash>`?
<noonien> also, can i have the result not be a symlink?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @teto opened pull request #58207 → boot.kernelPackages: check for conflicts → https://git.io/fjJXQ
<LnL> -o/--out-link
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<noonien> can i set theese in the expression i'm building?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ryantm merged pull request #58015 → brltty: 5.6 -> 6.0 → https://git.io/fjfPl
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<offlinehacker> How to regenerate hackage-packages? i want to try hnix 6.0
<offlinehacker> 0.6*
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<buffet> hey, how do i get access to a perl cpan package? i tried both `nix-shell -p perlPackages.package` and `nix-shell -p '<nixpkgs>' -A perlPackages.pkgs` and both times perl gave me a "can't locate"
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<betawaffle> is it possible to have the nix store on a separate partition from the rest of root? how big would root need to be in that case?
<buffet> oh i cant rely on perl being in my system by default (with no-one knowing why), i actually have to `nix-shell -p perlPackages.package perl` for some reason
<buffet> this just seems broken
<offlinehacker> betawaffle: Yes, you can have it on separate partition as long as it's mounted under /nix. I would go with 100G if you are developing, but if you are just using it for your packages around 50G should be fine
<betawaffle> 100G for this nix store? i mean how big for the rest (the non-nix-store root partition)
<noonien> buffet: yes, you should not rely on perl being in on your users systems
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<noonien> or anything other than /usr/bin/env and /bin/sh
<noonien> nix-shell is pretty awesome because it allows your script to specify its own dependencies
<offlinehacker> betawaffle: yes for nix storage
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<offlinehacker> for root it depdends how much data you want to store, as most of the stuff will be in nix store anyway
<buffet> noonien: im referring to the fact that perl gets implicitly installed in every nixos installation
<buffet> for whatever reason
<betawaffle> so, let's say i had /home on a separate partition too? are we pretty much just talking about log files, symlinks, etc for the root partition?
<infinisil> offlinehacker: For getting a specific hackage version you can just use callHackage or callHackageDirect
<offlinehacker> yes
<offlinehacker> betawaffle: 20G should be safe i guess if you have nix store and home on separate partitions
<offlinehacker> i guess even half that, but i'm not rly shure
<noonien> buffet: oh, yeah, that has been asked here before, i'm unsure why myself
<buffet> noonien: yeah, i was the one asking before :p
<buffet> i opened an issue on nixpkgs about it, got no reply yet
<offlinehacker> infinisil: hmm thx interesting, what a magic, will try that :)
<buffet> yet apperently its not even properly usable
<infinisil> callHackage is indeed very magical
<noonien> i would guess because some packages rely on it, but that's really no reason to install it systemm-wide
<betawaffle> is it also sane to share the nix store partition with multiple OSes on the same machine?
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<buffet> noonien: there is some nixos stuff that depends on it (the "The program 'x' is currently not installed." thing in your shell for example is perl), but the store *should* be enough
<noonien> yeah, it should contain the full path to perl, like all other programs
<infinisil> offlinehacker: Ah yeah that means you need to use callHackageDirect
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<infinisil> offlinehacker: callHackage's magic works by it referencing a package called all-cabal-hashes, which literally contains all cabal hashes, so you don't need to supply one. But it doesn't work for packages that are too new, because it doesn't contain those hashes yet
<inquisitiv3> I've probably missinterpreted some information, but it seems I can't uninstall applications? E.g. installed git with `nix-env -iA nixpkgs.git`, but when I try to remove it with `nix-env -e git` and `nix-env -e nixpkgs.git` nothing happens. Have Nix installed on a Fedora system.
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<infinisil> ,fancyUninstall inquisitiv3
<{^_^}> inquisitiv3: Fancy way to uninstall packages, needs fzf installed: nix-env -q | fzf | xargs -I{} nix-env -e {}
<{^_^}> infinisil: Did you mean fancy-uninstall?
<offlinehacker> infinisil: i'm trying callHackageDirect now but i guess i'm confused how to use it?
<offlinehacker> nix-instantiate -E 'with import ./. {}; haskellPackages.callHackageDirect { pkg = "hnix"; ver = "0.6.0"; sha256 = "17e682f060b5f8e47ea04c5c4855908b0a5ad612022260fe50e11ecb0cc0ab76";}
<offlinehacker> error: expression does not evaluate to a derivation (or a set or list of those)
<infinisil> Ah, try adding an argument {} at the end
<infinisil> callHackageDirect { ... } {}
<infinisil> That's the same {} you'd pass to callPackage, with which you could override arguments
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<inquisitiv3> infinisil: That worked! It's the "long" name that's is used when uninstalling?
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<infinisil> inquisitiv3: Something like that yeah, just the name that's returned by nix-env -q
<infinisil> And that you can select
<offlinehacker> infinisil: It looks like it would not be that simple:
<offlinehacker> nix-instantiate -E 'with import ./. {}; haskellPackages.callHackageDirect { pkg = "hnix"; ver = "0.6.0"; sha256 = "0yy4pqzh7bd70p9z2vrw5psqw8vwj8qdb68bhqbifgsjxin39j9m";} {}'
<offlinehacker> error: anonymous function at /nix/store/976sqj36gwxyaf0pyahbg56h91ywbhb4-cabal2nix-hnix/default.nix:1:1 called without required argument 'hnix-store-core'
<infinisil> Hmm, try finding the callHackageDirect PR
<offlinehacker> i did manage to build it directly from hnix by running nix-build
<infinisil> Ah it's #52848
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/52848 (by mightybyte, 12 weeks ago, merged): Add a callHackage variant that doesn't require all-cabal-hashes
<infinisil> A bit disappointing that it doesn't seem to work as easily :/
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<offlinehacker> infinisil: will try to figure it out later, still thanks. I have zero haskell knowledge and how package managment and all the stuff works,
<infinisil> Oh can you show the code how you called it!
<infinisil> ?*
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<infinisil> Oh you did
<infinisil> Haha sry
<infinisil> Ahhh
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<infinisil> offlinehacker: I should've looked at the error more closely, hnix-store-core must be a new dependency, also not present in nixpkgs yet
<infinisil> So callHackageDirect { ... } { hnix-store-core = callHackageDirect { ... } {}; } could work then
<offlinehacker> is hnix "--parse --expr" the only usable pretty printer for nix?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda merged pull request #57025 → pythonPackages.pyhocon: init at 0.3.51 → https://git.io/fhpMc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda pushed commit from @chreekat to master « pythonPackages.pyhocon: init at 0.3.51 (#57025) »: https://git.io/fjJ1h
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @rycee closed pull request #58206 → perldevel: 5.29.6 -> 5.29.9 → https://git.io/fjJXV
<siraben> Anyone else unable to install tor-browser-bundle-bin?
<infinisil> siraben: Nix is very reproducible, so if the build fails, it will fail for everybody else too
<infinisil> (in general)
<siraben> This is due to a failed curl it seems
<siraben> infinisil: Right, so I'm wondering if something is blocking it for me
<infinisil> I can't access that url either
<siraben> Packages still rely on external curls?
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<infinisil> Only for unfree packages or packages that aren't cached
<siraben> I wonder how I can get tor browser now
<simpson> You might have to build `tor-browser-bundle` instead.
<simpson> Not that I've done so, but it's common for '-bin' to denote a prebuilt binary as opposed to a built-from-source package.
<infinisil> Seems that neither url actually has version 8.0.6
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<siraben> simpson: tor-browser-bundle builds but doesn't work correctly
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<siraben> The browser opens but shows a failed proxy message.
<siraben> Along with various missing icons
<simpson> That's unfortuante.
<siraben> I'll attempt to rebuild again
<infinisil> Ping dtz, you seem to be a current updater of that package
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<infinisil> Yeah look it's the tor project that messed something up
<infinisil> They link to the distribution directory <https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser/8.0.6/>, which doesn't exist
<infinisil> They seem to take down older versions when newer ones get released..
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<infinisil> But I'm not sure why it isn't in hydra's cache
<siraben> infinisil: what do you suggest I do in the meantime?
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<infinisil> If you wanna give it a try, update it to the latest version
<infinisil> Shouldn't take long to build since it's just a patchelf'd version
<infinisil> But considering how complicated the patches are, this might not work in the end
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<infinisil> Otherwise open an issue in nixpkgs for that and ping maintainers or other relevant people
<siraben> Alright.
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<das_j> Is there a packge with a glibc that support static builds?
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<slabity> Anyone know how I can make a nixos-container with xserver services? Like have the container open a window of another desktop on my main system?
<slabity> Has that been done before?
<infinisil> > glibc.static # <- probably this one
<{^_^}> "<derivation /nix/store/j9q614bgqlhbmrzqpq8rhlyam3ylp4c8-glibc-2.27.drv>"
<das_j> infinisil: Is there a way to override that in stdenv? I currently do stdenv.mkDerivation, so I need a way to tell stdenv to use the other libc for this build
<siraben> infinisil: what's weird is that the latest release is 8.02
<siraben> 8.0.2*
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<siraben> Whereas it's 8.0.8 for https://dist.torproject.org/torbrowser/8.0.8/
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<siraben> infinisil: just opened https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/58210
<{^_^}> #58210 (by siraben, 42 seconds ago, open): tor-browser-bundle-bin fails to build due to broken curl
<simpson> das_j: I *think*, but can't confirm or corroborate, that `dontDisableStatic = true;` is the important part for making stdenv understand your desires.
<simpson> Haven't really done anything with it myself.
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<infinisil> siraben: That github one is just an unofficial thing it seems
<infinisil> Oh it's not
<infinisil> So it's just unmaintained
<das_j> simpson: Seems like it's enough to override stdenv and add glibc.static to the extra inputs
<siraben> It would be better to use the Tor Project's website.
<das_j> Thanks you two :)
<siraben> Since especially for an application like Tor it wouldn't be a good idea to get older version from unmaintained repos.
<infinisil> Yes
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<laas> Does anyone here know how to use pacman? I'm trying to build a PKGBUILD
<Yaniel> IIRC you have to use makepkg for that?
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<laas> Yaniel: makepkg is part of pacman AFAIK
<laas> and even if it weren't, I still need to get pacman working, because makepkg uses it
<tilpner> ,locate makepkg
<{^_^}> Found in packages: pacman, bashCompletion
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<laas> tilpner: the issue is that `pacman -S` always fails
<laas> I can't do anything at all
<laas> `(could not find or read directory: /var/lib/pacman/)`
<laas> I mean, it makes sense, but I have no idea how to fix it
<tilpner> What do you want to do with it?
<tilpner> Just letting it write Arch packages all over your pretty filesystems seems wrong. And possibly dangerous
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<laas> tilpner: yeah, I imagined I'd have to set up a virtual filesystem somehow
<laas> with buildFHS or whatever
<laas> I don't want to mix Arch and NixOS lol, just want to build a package with makepkg and copy over the binaries
<laas> not even going to install any package
<tilpner> So how are you calling makepkg, and how is it failing?
<das_j> laas: You should rather build the binaries with nix or you'll get linker errors when not running in the fhs env
<laas> tilpner: ah well it fails when pacman has to get the packages needed
<laas> das_j: hmm
<laas> that would be nice, but it's a lot of work to set up a nix expression for this
<das_j> laas: What project is it?
<laas> besides, I can just `patchelf` it
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @veprbl merged pull request #58030 → Create texmf-local directory separate from texmf-dist. → https://git.io/fjfMp
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<das_j> :q
<das_j> whoops
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<pbb> I'm always running into this error while building the redis-rack ruby gem: https://pastebin.com/raw/bZyRy57Y
<pbb> any ideas what's going wrong
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<pbb> * would be appreciated
<pbb> building the same gem via bundler instead of bundix works fine
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<siraben> How do I remap caps lock to control in TTY consoles?
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<elvishjerricco> Anyone using running a plex server on nixos? I'm using `services.plex.enable = true;` and the server starts up but just instantly exits
<elvishjerricco> Ah, I wanted to set `services.plex.dataDir = "/media/plex";` to store it in a particular ZFS data set. But plex is just assuming it should use /var/lib/plex for some reason, and failing because that dir doesn't exist.
<tilpner> elvishjerricco: .override { dataDir = "/media/plex"; }
<tilpner> No idea if that works, never used plex
<pbb> elvishjerricco: you could set up a bind-mount
<elvishjerricco> tilpner: Ah, that looks like it's probably it. The NixOS module probably ought to handle that
<elvishjerricco> pbb: That was gonna be my fallback plan :P
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<tilpner> At the very least, the module should probably create that directory on prestart instead of just failing
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<elvishjerricco> tilpner: It does create the dataDir that you set with `services.plex.dataDir`. It just doesn't also override the plex package to use that dataDir
<tilpner> Oh, okay
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<baum_> since wvdial was deprecated, what are alternatives?
<makefu> baum_: i am currently using network-manager, but i can definitly see how people like to avoid it. for me it sets the metrics correct (umts < wifi < lan) and i really like that :)
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<baum_> makefu: alright, thanks, i'll give it another try :)
<elvishjerricco> Welp, just learned that plex is basically useless if you don't sign up and pay them money. Guess I'll find another media server
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<noonien> elvishjerricco: what's youre usecase?
<noonien> your*
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<elvishjerricco> noonien: Just generically streaming videos / photos / music from my desktop to my laptop (which is always connected via tinc, so no middle man for remote access)
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<mdash> elvishjerricco: no, definitely not true
<mdash> i used plex for several years without signup or paying
<elvishjerricco> mdash: Maybe it's just the ios app
<noonien> elvishjerricco: oh, plain old http might be enough for what you need
<mdash> i have only used the web and android versions
<mdash> elvishjerricco: you might also look at emby, which is similar to plex
<elvishjerricco> I also don't like that plex's server is closed source
<mdash> sure
<mdash> some folks were working on an open source clone but I can't recall the name immediately
<elvishjerricco> there's one called streama that people are saying is pretty good
<noonien> in case you might want to stream to a tv or something, you can just plug a chromecast and give it a http url, assuming the media format is supported
<elvishjerricco> Eh, I'd like there to be a browse UI
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<noonien> you can do that with a simple http server, sure, plex does much more than just listing files
<mdash> plex + chromecast has been my main use case yeah
<noonien> i used my plex server with my ps4 in the past, however, i also dislike that it's closed source
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<mdash> ah, "jellyfin" was the thing I saw last.
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<Irenes> hm
<Irenes> is anybody else using NixOS on an ARM7 platform?
<Irenes> I know it's not an officially supported architecture
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<Irenes> I'm getting some test failures when building LLVM, in x86-specific DWARF tests
<Irenes> that was on nixos-unstable; I'm currently retrying with 19.03
<Irenes> I know it's expected that tests may break on an unsupported platform, so the main thing I'm wondering is whether there's been discussion of making it supported, and what it would take
<Irenes> I can imagine the main constraint is simply that builds take forever because these aren't exactly powerful chips...
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<noonien> Irenes: build time shouldn't matter, if crosscompilation works
<Irenes> that's good to hear. I'm not certain that it does, since I haven't tested it myself, but I would expect it does.
<samueldr> cross-compilation isn't a good way for NixOS to be "supported" since cross-compiled outputs aren't a replacement for the native builds (due to dependencies not being the same)
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<Irenes> huh. right.
<samueldr> Irenes: AFAIK the main issues is (1) humanpower to put into making things work, but mainle (2) having a build infrastructure for armv7
<samueldr> mainly*
<Irenes> I would imagine also that in a case like what I'm seeing, where the test failure is probably due to cross-compilation in the other direction, using cross-compilation as the only way things are built could cause trouble
<samueldr> it's kind of a combination of both, it wouldn't do good to have an infra setup if no one would work on it being a first-class citizen, and vice versa
<Irenes> that makes sense. I have to admit that I'm not sure how much of my own time I can realistically volunteer for that.
<Irenes> I'd certainly be willing to do some initial research at least
<Irenes> is there documentation on how the official build infra for other platforms is set up?
<Irenes> like I know how Hydra works but I guess I mean in terms of who runs the hardware and stuff
<srhb> Irenes: Nothing that has all the information, I think. Different people and organizations provide hardware though.
<Irenes> I see
<srhb> Irenes: Most/all of the actual setups are provisioned via nixops. I'm not sure of darwin, I think it's sort of special cased, running on containers somehow(?) don't quote me though.
<Irenes> heh, yeah, Darwin can be difficult that way
<srhb> I think it's actually simpler than the real darwin machines, in some ways.
<Irenes> anyway, Darwin is an interesting topic but beside the point at the moment
<srhb> Sure.
<Irenes> okay, I'm going to do some reading and probably have more questions later
<Irenes> thanks all, that was helpful
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<jtojnar> does anyone have a script that spins up a cloud builder (e.g. on EC2) builds derivation there and then destroys it?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace closed pull request #57112 → gnome3.gtk -> gtk3 → https://git.io/fhhuU
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<mightybyte> How do I set the NixOS systemwide ulimit?
<gchristensen> mightybyte: security.pam.loginLimits maybe?
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<mightybyte> Thanks, I'll check that out.
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<noonien> is it possible to create executables that work both on nixos and other, more standard linux distros?
<srhb> noonien: You mean without Nix, yes?
<srhb> As in, other distros that do NOT have Nix. Otherwise it's trivial.
<noonien> yes, that is what i mean
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<srhb> noonien: There's a tool for doing something like appimage (and possibly even that) via nix..
<srhb> noonien: I forget its name
<noonien> flatpack?
<srhb> noonien: Containers are also an option. As are statically linked executables, if you can manage the linker compat etc..
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<srhb> Maybe, yes..
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<Thra11> How do I get a the resultant store path for a package/attribute?
<srhb> Thra11: nix eval nixpkgs.hello.outPath eg.
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<symphorien> srhb, noonien: nix-bundle maybe ?
<Thra11> srhb: Thanks!
<srhb> symphorien: Yes, that's the one I was thinking of :)
<srhb> Thanks.
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<noonien> symphorien: awesome! didn't know about nix-bundle!
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<dStut> Hi, quick question. Is there a way to boot NixOS headlessly and run SSH? I have a PCEngines APU2C4 coming in the mail, but no serial adapter to control it.
<MichaelRaskin> dStut: you can probably prepare a USB drive that does what you need. And test it in Qemu with Tianocore
<MichaelRaskin> (assuming UEFI by default)
<gchristensen> dStut: my best recommendation is to just buy a serial adapter.
<dStut> Do I need to build from source or can I just unpack the official ISO or something and edit a config?
<dStut> Thanks @gchristensen but I'm a starving student and i'd rather trade some time for some money lol.
<gchristensen> it was sooo frustrating without, but fair enough.
<gchristensen> if you *do* try to buy one which is genuine FTDI
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<MichaelRaskin> dStut: I think you will end up doing a NixOS-install onto the drive
<dStut> Will do
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<dStut> Although that does get me thinking if I can use an arduino FTDI chip as a hacky serial adapter
<MichaelRaskin> Maybe using a VM to boot the official ISO (and connect USB drive to that VM)
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<gchristensen> dStut: maybe yes, but make sure your voltages match
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<dStut_> Hi again, think I lost connection somehow
<andi-> Finally updating an 18.03 device (hasn't been powered on for a year) to 18.09... lots of HTTP 200 "errors" where only partial data was transmitted :/
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<dStut_> @gchristensen, can I ask what made it so hard? Once you get ssh up is there anything peculiar about the boards? I thought they were fairly standard x86 boards.
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<srhb> andi-: We spoke about that yesterday, apparently it's usually caused by broken ipv6 routers?
<andi-> srhb: I doubt it is in this case.. I know every device from here to basically Fastly and all the other machines are working fine
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<andi-> might be the "older" kernel? 4.16-devSomething is running there
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<dStut_> gchristensen: Sorry, forgot the correct way to mention with IRC. As above, can I ask what made it so hard? Once you get ssh up is there anything peculiar about the boards? I thought they were fairly standard x86 boards.
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<MichaelRaskin> dStut_: you need to make sure boot recognizes the device correctly, and network gets up properly and ssh gets up (the easy part)
<MichaelRaskin> This might be annoying to debug if _something_ goes wrong, as you don't know which part
<MichaelRaskin> On the other hand, there are some tricks you could use to debug, so if you want to learn more than you want comfort, or if you are lucky, you can do it blindly
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<MichaelRaskin> Once SSH server is up and you scan for it, life is good
<dStut_> Yeah, I was also thinking the specs list a JTAG header and I do have a Segger debugger so I might be able to use that. Not sure what the JTAG header is hooked up to though.
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<dStut_> Well thanks for the help and I'll see what happens.
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<emptyflask> having a problem with a polybar service under home-manager -- when it runs, it can't find `sed` or `free`. it works fine if I launch it manually
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<emptyflask> I realize it's because of a limited PATH setting, but how do I append to it?
<tilpner> systemd.user.services.<name>.path
<rycee> emptyflask: I think something like `export PATH=${lib.makeBinPath [ pkgs.gnused pkgs.procps-ng]}${PATH:+:}$PATH` should do it.
<rycee> tilpner: I think that won't work since HM service defintion is very dumb :-)
<tilpner> Oh, right
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<rycee> I'm thinking of redoing the systemd module to support such things. Probably by leaving `systemd.user` as is and instead putting them directly under `systemd`. So `systemd.services.<name>.path`, for example.
<rycee> Then it wouldn't break old configs.
<emptyflask> prepending that to services.polybar.script seems to work. Thanks! now I need to find what provides dbus-monitor...
<samueldr> ,locate bin dbus-monitor
<{^_^}> Found in packages: dbus_daemon
<samueldr> ,locate
<{^_^}> Use ,locate <filename> to find packages containing such a file. Powered by nix-index (local installation recommended)
<samueldr> emptyflask: ^
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<emptyflask> good to know!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dtzWill opened pull request #58224 → iputils: 20180629 -> 20190324 → https://git.io/fjJQ2
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<emptyflask> thanks all. polybar's working with `export PATH=${lib.makeBinPath [ pkgs.gnused pkgs.dbus pkgs.procps-ng pkgs.gnugrep pkgs.gawk ]}:$PATH`
<immae> hello ! Can I pass different arguments to specific modules? (they are imported through the "imports" list in my configuration). The goal is to pass an updated pkgs, but I want to do it gradually (one module at a time) and not all at once if possible
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @dotlambda opened pull request #58225 → newsboat: 2.14.1 -> 2.15 → https://git.io/fjJQK
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<tilpner> immae: How about shadowing pkgs with a newer attrset?
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<tilpner> So e.g. let pkgs = pkgs.newerPkgs; in ... at the top
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<immae> well, that’s what I’m doing, but it’s only partial: it works when I explicitely use the pkgs, but if I have a config.service that uses a pkg that one doesn’t get updated
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<tilpner> Then no, I don't know an easy way to do that
<immae> Ok thanks
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<dtz> siraben: infinisil : looks like 8.0.8 is out, so best solution seems to move to that. Although still going through backlog, where did this issue end up?
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<infinisil> dtz: Last thing I know is an issue being opened
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Zer0- opened pull request #58228 → muse-sequencer: 3.0.2 -> 3.1pre1 → https://git.io/fjJQx
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<dtz> ah, indeed, ty
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danbst pushed commit from @Infinisil to release-19.03 « Merge pull request #52096 from furrycatherder/davmail »: https://git.io/fjJ7L
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<thomashoneyman> i'm trying to adjust a binary (spotify) so that it always starts with a particular command-line argument.
<thomashoneyman> i asked about this once before and was directed here: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Nix_Cookbook
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<thomashoneyman> specifically to the "wrapping packages" section
<thomashoneyman> what i'm reading makes sense except that I'm not sure how to implement it in a configuration.nix
<thomashoneyman> ultimately i need the new wrapped package to be part of the system environment (or per-user environment)
<thomashoneyman> but i'm not sure how to do that.
<thomashoneyman> oh wait
<thomashoneyman> the latest rebuild worked, where i just used the new wrapped package directly
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<infinisil> Ah nice :)
<thomashoneyman> perfect!
<thomashoneyman> i didn't realize I could just...use the new one
<thomashoneyman> haha
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<michalrus> Why don’t they take patchFlags?
<michalrus> And why are patchFlags global per package.
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<haslersn[m]> Is there a `nixpkgs/lib` type for functions?
<{^_^}> #44601 (by basvandijk, 32 weeks ago, open): lib/types: add the selectorFunction type
<infinisil> So no, not right now, but maybe in the future
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danbst merged pull request #57677 → postgresql: Move socket dir to /run/postgresql → https://git.io/fjeM2
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