<amfl>
My hardware-configuration.nix imports nixpkgs/nixos/modules/installer/scan/not-detected.nix
<amfl>
Probably because I ran the generate-config script, then rebooted, THEN did nixos-install
<amfl>
(I was fiddling with harddrive partitions)
<amfl>
I will boot back into the livecd and go through again.
<tilpner>
No, wait
* amfl
waits
<tilpner>
I don't have a hardware-configuration.nix, so it's hard to check, but I think that's fine to be there. It enables more firmware "just in case", doesn't hurt
<tilpner>
All not-detected.nix does is "hardware.enableRedistributableFirmware = true;"
<tilpner>
I guess the next place to look would be X logs and config
<amfl>
Hmm, okay
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<tilpner>
Sorry, I don't know either. Much of my hardware just worked with the generated config, I remember adding udev rules for a controller though...
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<amfl>
All good, just wondering if anyone had a magical "Oh, type this" to save me going down a rabbit hole :p
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<neonfuz>
Ralith: how's the coverage?
<neonfuz>
thanks
<Ralith>
neonfuz: I've been told it's the best available, if you install all three
<Ralith>
it's backed by google with the objective of having a single stylistically consistent font for all unicode
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<hiroshi>
hello guys . has anybody zfs full filesystem . did you use swap ?
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<iqubic>
any idea why blkid returns nothing for me?
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<iqubic>
Also, does nixpkgs have a build for FireFox Quantum yet?
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<iqubic>
So yeah, I'm not getting any results from running blkid in the terminal.
<iqubic>
Is this because I have a zfs system?
<iqubic>
Wait, I have to run it as root. Duh
<iqubic>
:bd
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<boomshroom>
Hello!
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<boomshroom>
I'm trying to run a RenPy game, but the package says that it's broken. While I wouldn't mind knowing the exact issue with it, what I really want to know is if it's possible to enable broken packages for just a single invocation of nix-shell.
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<boomshroom>
Hello?
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<boomshroom>
tilpner: thanks. I didn't see anything in nix-shel --help.
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vF9gE
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master b43c5e0 Chris Martin: nixpkgs manual: how to make a patch file with git...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 9ce33dd Graham Christensen: Merge pull request #31778 from chris-martin/pr/patch...
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] grahamc pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/vF9ga
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.09 3aa2fa3 Chris Martin: nixpkgs manual: how to make a patch file with git...
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<Nobabs27[m]>
```error: undefined variable ‘falkon’ at /etc/nixos/configuration.nix:73:2```
<Nobabs27[m]>
Yet falkon is a package ??
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<Nobabs27[m]>
any ideas?
<boomshroom>
The renpy package claims to be broken, but so far I haven't seen any problems with it. I'm tempted to make a derivation for this particular game.
<tilpner>
Nobabs27[m] - You probably forgot to bring it into scope. Try pkgs.falkon, hoping that you have pkgs available. No way to tell for sure with this little information
<boomshroom>
tlipner: I saw that, but then noticed the latest version on the website is 6.99.13 and the nix package is 6.99.12.4. I highly doubt 3 years have gone by with only a minor version change. Also the nix package was updated on March 17th.
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<tilpner>
boomshroom - You probably want to ask sphalerite, who marked renpy as broken 8 months ago
<boomshroom>
the broken flag was set immediately before the update. (the same day)
<neonfuz>
Ralith: I installed the font but still cannot see chinese characters
<neonfuz>
in firefox
<neonfuz>
it's not boxes either, they're just gone
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<Ralith>
neonfuz: how did you install it?
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<neonfuz>
this is so odd, I don't understand why both browsers tabs and my window manager can see chinese characters, but neither browser can see them on the page
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<playX>
Why playonlinux and wine can't find OpenGL libraries? I need help
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<neonfuz>
oh god
<neonfuz>
now firefox has NO fonts
<neonfuz>
just blank where text is supposed to be
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<neonfuz>
what is happening
<neonfuz>
all I did is reboot
<neonfuz>
oh, they're back... hmm,
<neonfuz>
chinese fonts are still broken
<neonfuz>
and another issue
<neonfuz>
I have plasma 5 and i3 enabled, and then I set the default to i3 and auto login to true, and now it's starting BOTH kde and i3, and they conflict horribly
<playX>
choose none+i3 or none+plasma5
<playX>
if you using lightdm
<neonfuz>
I'm using slim apparently
<neonfuz>
and I'm not chosing, I have auto on
<neonfuz>
would I need unwrapped firefox?
<neonfuz>
I think I'm using firefox-bin
<playX>
hmm, maybe turn off auto loggin and use session what you need?
<neonfuz>
ugh
<neonfuz>
I guess
<playX>
or use lightdm
<neonfuz>
holy crap emacs is being insanely sluggish now
<neonfuz>
wtf is happening
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<neonfuz>
emacs is running at like 15fps or less lol
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<codygman>
I'm trying to use the firefox nix overlay. I know I could just "nix-env -iA nixos.latest.firefox-bin" but I want to put it in my configuration.nix. I tried this: environment.systemPackages = with pkgs; [ git ] ++ ([(import /home/cody/.config/nixpkgs/overlays/firefox-overlay.nix).latest.firefox-bin]);
<playX>
codygman: i tried to install firefox 57, it fails with gconf error
<playX>
you have that problem?
<codygman>
playX: I was stubbornly refusing to install it via nix-env and trying to figure out how to add it to configuration.nix. I guess I'll just try to use nix-env and see if I get the same failure.
<neonfuz>
emacs is also warning it can't find the font it's configured to ues
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<playX>
hmm, i downloaded default nix of firefox and changed src to { version = "57.0b14"; sources = [ { url = "http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/57.0b14/linux-x86_64/ach/firefox-57.0b14.tar.bz2"; locale = "ach"; arch = "linux-x86_64"; sha512 = "07c3398805092ba5d252adcdb690a144f8143a8827e70e3be3cb71175735c9c37c9d0edb93936f8cd1af16ad7a6f988b8e8fe9eaed7e36bbb85abab0137893b6"; }
<playX>
and it fails with gconf
<neonfuz>
wtf, I don't have freetype installed?
<neonfuz>
do you have to manually install freetype normally?
<playX>
what is it?
<neonfuz>
freetype? the library that normally is used to render fonts afaik
<codygman>
playX: I tried just using the overlay from master now and got: error: value is null while a list was expected, at /home/cody/.config/nixpkgs/overlays/firefox-overlay.nix:40:18
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<codygman>
it's failing to get the SHA512 sum... but I curl'd the url it builds and it's fine...
<playX>
maybe better to whait when firefox 57 will be added to repository
<codygman>
should there be a readfile in this code: sha512 = head (match ".*[\n]([0-9a-f]*) ${file}.*" (readFile (fetchurl chksum)));
<codygman>
fetchurl should give a string back right?
<neonfuz>
there's a util specifically for getting the checksum of a remote resource you know
<playX>
i don't know, i tried to install with editing defaul.nix
<neonfuz>
nix-prefetch-url
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<neonfuz>
okay, so I installed noto-fonts-cjk as a system package, and now it works
<neonfuz>
so this means some packages only work at the system level?
<neonfuz>
okay, after installing noto-fonts-cjk as a system package, I have bad aliased chinese fonts in chrome, and it's still broken in ff
<neonfuz>
gimp segfaults when I open the font selector
<neonfuz>
something is really messed up with my fonts
<playX>
Why i can't use nix-env with user? i get this error: building path(s) ‘/nix/store/vsy5vlc5vzj7d91q2j8jivgq1xqn804k-user-environment’ error: unexpected EOF reading a line
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<neonfuz>
is there a way to integrity check packages?
<playX>
Oh, i get this problem when starting nix-env with root too
<ison[m]>
neonfuz: Have you tried running "sudo fc-cache -fv"?
<neonfuz>
no
<neonfuz>
ison[m]: yeah that did a ton
<playX>
Why i get a EOF error?
<playX>
i cant install packages
<neonfuz>
still no chinese fonts though
<neonfuz>
aaand gimp font selector still segfaults
<fearlessKim[m]>
playX hqve u updated nix rcently ?
<playX>
im using 18.03
<playX>
and i installed nixunstable
<neonfuz>
ison[m]: is this line a problem?
<neonfuz>
/nix/store/55q6avpfncr02f0a22c712rag44b2xnh-fc-cache: not cleaning unwritable cache directory
<playX>
fearlessKim[m]: im try to use 17.09 channel and rollback
<ison[m]>
neonfuz: Actually now that I think about it nix probably doesn't need you to run fc-cache -fv like on other distros. So your issue must be something else. Would you be able to put all the lines in your nix config relevant to fonts in a pastebin?
<codygman>
how can I import and tryout fetchurl in nix-shell?
<neonfuz>
yeah, there are none
<neonfuz>
lol
<neonfuz>
I did nothing to my font config
<neonfuz>
besides recently to try to fix things I added noto-fonts-cjk to the package list,
<Cheng>
neonfuz: Did you add noto-fonts-cjk to fonts.fonts?
<neonfuz>
fonts.fonts is a thing O.o
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<Cheng>
neonfuz: Yeah, and you don't need to add the fonts to environment.systemPackages
<playX_>
fearlessKim[m]: used 17.09 channel, still get EOF error
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<fearlessKim[m]>
playX_: what's the path to you nix ? $ which nix-shell ?
<playX>
fearlessKim[m]: im started nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade maybe i get that problem because not added --upgrade option
<playX>
fearlessKim[m]: and i can launch nix-env as root to
<playX>
too*
<fearlessKim[m]>
ok dont know then. I ve seen the problem twice on a nix upgrade and the 'solution' was to rollback
<Cheng>
Hi, I'm having trouble setting up cursor themes on wayland. For gtk2 applications, the default pointer cursor is wrong, but all other cursors are working. I've set ~/.icons/default/index.theme, and what else should I do?
<neonfuz>
so do you NEED to use fonts.fonts?
<Cheng>
neonfuz: I suppose so
<neonfuz>
hmm
<neonfuz>
alright I guess lol
<neonfuz>
still doesn't show chinese fonts
<neonfuz>
though it did do a bunch of fontconfig things when I rebuilt system with fonts.fonts, and it didn't do that when I installed fonts with nix-env
<Cheng>
neonfuz: Maybe you need to clean up and remove the fonts installed with nix-env?
<neonfuz>
it fixed it in chrome
<neonfuz>
I'll try
<Cheng>
neonfuz: It was very easy for me to get Chinese fonts working. I just added them to fonts.fonts
<neonfuz>
noto-fonts-cjk?
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<neonfuz>
now I can't open new terminals
<Cheng>
Yeah, along with others
<neonfuz>
oh there they are
<neonfuz>
took like 2 minutes
<playX_>
still get error: unexpected EOF reading a line
<playX_>
what i can do with that?
<neonfuz>
something is more deeply messed up with my system I think
<neonfuz>
playX_: is it during fetching?
<Cheng>
neonfuz: I thought it would be very hard to get NixOS messed up
<playX_>
neonfuz: when i try to install some programms like nix-env -iA nixos.playonlinux
<neonfuz>
Cheng: are you sure you have chinese fonts? how are you testing
<neonfuz>
japanese fonts, including japanese kanji work for me
<neonfuz>
just not chinese
<neonfuz>
try taobao.com if you can
<neonfuz>
maybe firefox just somehow doesn't know it's supposed to use noto for the chinese range?
<Cheng>
neonfuz: Firefox works fine for me
<neonfuz>
k
<jeaye>
Can I use a package derivation to install files to /etc or do I have to only use environment.etc?
<Cheng>
neonfuz: I changed the default font in Firefox preferences.
<playX_>
typed nix-shell -p nix, now it's working
<neonfuz>
alright, yeah changing the default font to noto sans sc works, but that seems very hacky to me
<neonfuz>
and gimp font selector still crashes for me, dunno if that's a gimp problem or a system problem
<playX_>
Ahh, installed playonlinux, and it can't find OpenGL libraries
<playX_>
guys, help me
<Cheng>
neonfuz: I tried to change the default font to an English font, and it still works
<neonfuz>
yeah that doesn't for me
<Cheng>
neonfuz: That's weired. I am using wayland and firefox-nightly-bin, so there could be some differences
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<neonfuz>
yeah, I'm using x11
<neonfuz>
and firefox
<neonfuz>
Cheng: what channel are you using
<neonfuz>
do you have other font config stuff Cheng?
<Cheng>
neonfuz: 17.09
<Cheng>
No, just fonts.fonts
<neonfuz>
odd
<neonfuz>
I'm trying some other settings
<neonfuz>
btw, do I need to update system.stateVersion when I switch channels or anything?
<Cheng>
I am new to NixOS, and have no idea
<neonfuz>
yeah, that's fine, asking anyone
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<jeaye>
neonfuz: Changing stateVersion should only be done once every 6 months or so, when the next release is stable.
<neonfuz>
lol mine is set to over a year old
<neonfuz>
the comments made me think it was something like a package database version that I wasn't supposed to change
<jeaye>
No, it just represents a stage in compatibility. Once you progress it, some changes can be made to your system which won't allow you to drop it back down.
<jeaye>
So it should only be bumped when the next release is out and stable. Typically that's every 6 months.
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<fearlessKim[m]>
I would like to play with my touchscreen a bit, they say gnome3 is the best for that but I wonder how wayland fares in that area ? any WM with interesting touchscreen feature ?
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<neonfuz>
also, is it possible to downgrade channels?
<neonfuz>
I'm on unstable, I think that might be the cause of some of my problems
<neonfuz>
I didn't understand the model of nixos when I switched to unstabl
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<fearlessKim[m]>
neonfuz: you could remove the channel and add an older one
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<jeaye>
It it possible to fetchurl a local directory?
<jeaye>
I'm not seeing any docs or example on such a usage.
<jeaye>
Eh, scratch that, XY problem. builtins.readDir does the trick.
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<neonfuz>
fearlessKim[m]: is there any way to downgrade my packages then? nix-env -u seems to not want to downgrade
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<fearlessKim[m]>
neonfuz: I don t know the clean solution sry. I guess you could remove packages from configuration.list/rebuild and readd them + rebuild
<hyper_ch>
hi sphalerite, got audacity to play along now?
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<sphalerite>
hyper_ch: sort of. It still blows up if I poke it the wrong way.
<hyper_ch>
what are you trying to do on it?
<sphalerite>
Just record some stuff, nothing fancy
<hyper_ch>
hmmm :(
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<hyper_ch>
so, I'm about to crash zfs on my server again :)
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<sphalerite>
I don't think the issue is inherently with audacity, I think the USB audio driver or the hardware is to blame
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<hyper_ch>
last time I used audacity it worked without issues for me.... need to change the loudness on a file
<sphalerite>
Yeah everything works fine if I start it without my audio recorder connected
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] flokli opened pull request #31788: git: honor $PATH for sendmail used in git-send-email command (master...git-send-email-sendmail) https://git.io/vF964
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<hyper_ch>
hmmm
<hyper_ch>
haven't tried to record with audacity though
<sphalerite>
It's just if it is connected and I poke it the wrong way (can't remember exactly how), audacity (and pulseaudio) hangs and becomes unkillable, even with kill -9
<hyper_ch>
well, last time I did so is a few years back when I did record all my vinly
<hyper_ch>
btu that was back on *buntu
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] flokli opened pull request #31789: msmtp: add sendmail symlink to $out/bin (master...msmtp-sendmail) https://git.io/vF96g
<hyper_ch>
I guess it also works fine with other desktops
<etu>
Hmm, I've added nixpkgs-unstable as a channel named as nixpkgs-unstable on my system as root. Then I tried to install a package from it by having something like this (import <nixpkgs-unstable> {}).firefox-bin in my systemPackages
<etu>
But it complains about not finding anything named nixpkgs-unstable in nix path
<taaperotassu>
I am using 32 bit nixos minimal
<hyper_ch>
etu: did you update the channel first?
<taaperotassu>
so it doesnt have kde nor seems to have about anything.
<etu>
hyper_ch: yes, I did nix-channel --update as root
<hyper_ch>
taaperotassu: well, do you want to run a desktop environment or not.... you talked about wifi-menu so I assumed you have some kind of desktop or window manager intalled
<taaperotassu>
I want to have it installed
<hyper_ch>
taaperotassu: no real idea what you're currently running... or what you mean by "nixos minimal"
<hyper_ch>
plugged in lan cable at boot works... haven't tried attaching lan cable later with installation cd
<clever>
dhcp should run automatically when a link is detected
<hyper_ch>
:)
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] peterhoeg opened pull request #31791: neomutt: use mime.types from apache (master...f/neomutt) https://git.io/vF9iH
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<taaperotassu>
Now its installing yey
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<sphalerite>
taaperotassu: you can configure wifi using wpa_supplicant on the minimal iso
<danbst[m]>
personally, I'd prefer nmtui over wpa_supplicant in live USB, or a note in manual on how to use wpa_supplicant
<Cheng>
Hi, how can I use a local archive.tar.bz2 for custom packages?
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<Cheng>
There isn't anything like fetchlocal
<clever>
Cheng: paths have their own type in nix, src = ./archive.tar.bz2
<hyper_ch>
taaperotassu: once you have it running, you could create your custom installer iso... with your preferred keyboard layout, with wpa_supplicant etc.....
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<danbst[m]>
but I also had experienced problems with NM DHCP discovery, while stock `networking.useDHCP` worked fine
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<danbst[m]>
hyper_ch: yeah, I actually did like this, and it worked
<hyper_ch>
danbst[m]: I even added some basic install files to setup things... I need to worke on them though...
<Cheng>
clever: Wow, it's so simple and elegant :)
<danbst[m]>
hyper_ch: Linus but still, my point is networking should as easy as possible for newcomers (live USB users), because you can't reach Google/SO/#nixos/whatever when you want to fix things.
<Dezgeg>
well, there is the graphical image
<hyper_ch>
danbst[m]: never had an issue with attached lan cable and booting up nixos live cd
<sphalerite>
danbst: the biggest issue with including nm in the image is closure size. It pulls in a huge quantity of unnecessary stuff
<Dezgeg>
maybe it could be explicitly written down: "If you use WiFi, pick the graphical ISO. You'll thank us later"
<danbst[m]>
Dezgeg: ah yeah! I had working wifi in graphical image. But after installation internet was lost? Why? I couldn't google, I had to reboot back to live usb to start googling
<sphalerite>
danbst: and the download page does say that the graphical image is "Recommended for most users"
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<hyper_ch>
Dezgeg: I tend to think those that don't pick graphical ISO will also use lan cable
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<sphalerite>
hyper_ch: my laptop doesn't have an ethernet port :p
<hyper_ch>
sphalerite: *does not compute - please write again*
<hyper_ch>
how can a notebook not have an ethernet port? oO
<danbst[m]>
Linus: offline help for configuring internet? if NM was included into installer closure, that would work
<hyper_ch>
danbst[m]: so you have your own custom nixos iso as well?
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<sphalerite>
wifi and pppoe can be done through nm which is included in the graphical installer image
<sphalerite>
As for the proxy idk, it's not mentioned in the manual at all which does suck
<sphalerite>
danbst: nm is included in the installer closure. For the graphical installer.
<danbst[m]>
Linus: as for pppoe - no. In Ukraine providers often configure pppoe in a weird mode, which doesn't work out of box in NM. So I have a custom fix to custom pppoe NixOS module to make that working
<danbst[m]>
Linus: graphical is indeed better for bootstrap
<sphalerite>
danbst: ah, that sucks. Do they not supply clients with a router/access point device that handles that for them?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] bjornfor pushed 1 new commit to release-17.09: https://git.io/vF9XZ
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/release-17.09 06bc548 Bjørn Forsman: nixos/pam: fix docs about path to u2f_keys file...
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<sphalerite>
but yeah if you're ignoring the website's recommendation to use the graphical ISO… anything that would have been fine in the graphical one is on you :p
<danbst[m]>
Linus: but whole talk started from `nmtui` which spawned a thread of thought in my head about minimal image
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<hyper_ch>
danbst[m]: why are you prefixing everything with "Linus:"?
<sphalerite>
but yeah it looks like PPP support in general is pretty poor
<sphalerite>
hyper_ch: I'm Linus, as previously discussed :p
<hyper_ch>
sphalerite: there's only one Linus
<sphalerite>
danbst is also on matrix
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] domenkozar closed pull request #29830: kodi: 17.4 -> 17.6 and move to cmake (master...f/kodi) https://git.io/vdqOq
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<pierre__>
Hi, I'm new to nixos and I've got a silly question
<sphalerite>
pierre__: and gchristensen made this snazzy graph that gives you a good idea of how frequently everything updates https://channels.nix.gsc.io/graph.html
<sphalerite>
pierre__: but yeah, the update process is automated. nixos-unstable and nixpkgs-unstable track master, nixos-17.09 (and I think nixpkgs-17.09-darwin?) track release-17.09
<pierre__>
ok. So last unstable was 13 Aug
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<NixOS_GitHub>
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<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/staging e4bf9e4 Florian Klink: git: honor $PATH for sendmail used in git-send-email command...
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/staging d62531d Vladimír Čunát: Merge #31788: git: honor $PATH for sendmail...
<clever>
also, mandb cant be ran, because the store is immutable
<lhart>
Hi! Currently trying to build mopidy on a headless server. It appears that it brings a lot of unexpected dependencies like wayland and libgnome-keyring... Does anyone know if it's normal? Thanks,
<sphalerite>
phg: man 2 time works for me, not sure if man time.h is the right invocation
<clever>
phg: line 26-36, i dont see it adding the 0p section
<clever>
sphalerite: "man time.h" works on my old gentoo machine
<phg>
clever: line 186 ``200~subdirectory man0p has been 'modified'``
<sphalerite>
ok never mind me :D
<clever>
phg: it might be that the mandb at nixos build time isnt finding it
<pierre__>
And I'm not exactly sure how to do that...
<pierre__>
The gist of it is I need to clone that repo somewhere (I guess I need to make a nixpkgs)
<jluttine>
where can i find htpasswd executable? i tried the one in thttpd but it segfaults
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<clever>
apacheHttpd.out 22,480 x /nix/store/70pg800wr2gy9fnab0v3xn456sflkl64-apache-httpd-2.4.25/bin/htpasswd
<pierre__>
and then I have to add oneline in my zsh config (that I think I know how to do) to source it
<clever>
jluttine: i also see it in apacheHttpd
<clever>
pierre__: pkgs.fetchFromGitHub will clone it and return the path its been cloned to
<pierre__>
cool! Let me google that
<jluttine>
clever: ah, yes, that works! i tried apache-httpd and got confused because it wasn't found. :)
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<srhb>
<0;51;20M<0;51;20m
<srhb>
Woops
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<jluttine>
is anyone using radicale server? i can't connect to it with my clients. weird errors, been googling them now for a while, so thought if someone has knowledge how to set up radicale service properly
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<lhart>
hum, does anyone know how to build gst-plugins_x/gst_all without gst_plugins_bad?
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<hyper_ch>
hmmm, seems I haven't filed a bug report for a long time... the commands for Tech Details have changed....
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] pSub closed pull request #31770: Add references to the Wikipedia article of the patch command (master...doc-for-patch-31684) https://git.io/vFSuz
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] pSub deleted doc-for-patch-31684 at 480acb7: https://git.io/vF9Sf
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<ixxie>
has anybody gotten JupyterLab to run in NixOS?
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] romildo opened pull request #31793: lxtask: init at 0.1.8 (master...new.lxtask) https://git.io/vF9SX
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<ixxie>
I can't figure out how to get it to run
<hyper_ch>
what's jupyterlab?
<ixxie>
hyper_ch: are you familiar with Jupyter notebooks?
<hyper_ch>
no
<ixxie>
hyper_ch: have you have seen mathematica running by any chance?
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<hyper_ch>
no
<ixxie>
hyper_ch: you can find demo videos on youtube for all of these; basically, jupyter notebook interface is a web gui where cells of code can be intermingled with graphical, text and interactive output
<ixxie>
hyper_ch: support exists for kernels for python, julia, R, haskell and other languages
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<ixxie>
hyper_ch: jupyterhub is a jupyter notebook server for multiple users, and jupyterlab extends this notebook interface to a fullblown web IDE
<ixxie>
hyper_ch: the whole thing is designed for analytics and education purposes mainly
<hyper_ch>
good luck
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<ixxie>
cheers
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vF99k
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master bd47e17 Tuomas Tynkkynen: dtc: 1.4.4 -> 1.4.5
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 931aa5f Tuomas Tynkkynen: U-Boot: 2017.03 -> 2017.11...
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<hyper_ch>
so, in what formate do you get that junypter lab thing?
<knedlsepp_>
@steveej: To answer on yesterdays question on why I’m interested in referencing other overlays in my overlay:
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<knedlsepp_>
steveej: While I find that overlays are a great way to extend nixpkgs, I don’t really enjoy the whole „check them out manually to ~/.config/nixpkgs/overlays“ workflow. I’d rather do this „declaratively“ in a single file. At work I’m also maintaining different custom overlays in git repositories and I really want to specfiy on my machine: „Use these three nixpkgs overlays“. With the new builtins.fetchGit I can automatically use the most curr
<knedlsepp_>
version of the overlays and don’t have to manually git pull the newest changes.
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<knedlsepp_>
steveej: Specifying them in „NIX_PATH“ is not really an option due to: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/27065 and I’m also not on NixOS, so I cant specify this in configuration.nix.
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<knedlsepp_>
steveej: I’ll try to figure out how to properly specify these overlays. Yesterdays solution does not really layer https://gist.github.com/knedlsepp/28b945a3aa41d15b694bc766521994b1 as overlays are supposed to. However without well founded knowledge in functional programming this fixed point stuff look quite intimidating.
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<seccus>
Hey there. I'm running NixOS on my laptop. I'm looking to make a setup where I plug in an external monitor which automatically becomes primary and default - with the laptop screen completely off. Then when I unplug laptop screen should turn back on and become primary again. Have been Googling but haven't found a lot of helpful information yet. Any pointers or tips?
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<seccus>
I mean I can make a script that calls some `xrandr` commands, but is there a NixOS config way?
<hyper_ch>
not that I know of
<hyper_ch>
but with writeScriptBin you could add the script to nix store and environement... thne you just need some kind of listener that will run the script when monitor is de/attached
<hyper_ch>
but no idea how you could trigger that or what to watch to trigger that
<gchristensen>
pierrechevalier8: ah cool :) usually that graph only shows 2 weeks, the 3mo view is new
<seccus>
hyper_ch: Interesting! Seems like an easy way to make those little shell scripts in a 'NixOS way'.
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<clever>
seccus: and if you do something like: export PATH=${firefox}/bin/:$PATH in the script, then it can just run firefox, but firefox wont be installed for the user
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<hyper_ch>
put them into a github repo, link from the configuration file... setting up a new system - just set them again in the configuration.nix and you have them at your disposal
<clever>
seccus: so your script can run any program it wants, without cluttering up what the user has or conflicting with the versions a user already has
<gchristensen>
^ I have a Nix make a bash script which refers to tarballs of 4 entire nixos installs for 2 different hardware architectures :)
<clever>
seccus: lines 5-11 take the kernel and initrd from a nixos build, and copy them to a dedicated package (and that initrd contains the whole rootfs)
<gchristensen>
(based off clever's kexec)
<clever>
seccus: lines 12-33 generate a bash script that depends on the kernel&initrd
<clever>
seccus: and line 39 makes a tarball containing everything that the bash script depends on
<hyper_ch>
clever's kexec is awesome
<clever>
so you can just unpack that tar to / on any machine lacking nix, and the bash script just works (that setup will lack nix itself, so there is no easy way to manage the resulting /nix)
<seccus>
That stuff's currently a bridge too far for me, but I will save it for reference.
<clever>
seccus: if you unpacked that tar to / and ran /kexec_nixos, then the current OS will improperly shutdown, and nixos will prompt start up, hijacking the entire CPU/RAM
<clever>
you could then ssh into the nixos, format the drive, and install nixos as usual
<seccus>
That's really cool!
<hyper_ch>
seccus: I tested clever's kexec in a vm once... just to see if it really works :)
<hyper_ch>
... it does work
<seccus>
Come with a monitor setup question, learn about kexec'ing NixOS scripts... :D
<clever>
hodapp: ah, i see you also used the ds18b20's
<hodapp>
why a Raspberry Pi? because I'm lazy and I have 3 first-rev ones sitting in my pile of stuff
<clever>
hodapp: i had some trouble getting them to work reliably on the rpi, because it only has 3.3v IO with rather low current capabilities
<clever>
hodapp: while the AVR can do up to 20mA at 5v
<clever>
and i'm stringing a single wire all over the entire house
<hodapp>
oh, so you're using parasitic power?
<hyper_ch>
parasitic power?
<clever>
using proper 3 wire setup
<clever>
i didnt setup a mosfet to drive the line high when doing a sample
<hodapp>
hyper_ch: a thing 1-Wire does where power and data are carried over the same line, hence "1 wire"
<clever>
but the 1 data wire has to span the entire house, and is being pushed up/down by a single GPIO pin
<hyper_ch>
ah ok
<hodapp>
clever: ah, I'm only using one sensor in the same 3-wire setup
<hyper_ch>
hodapp: so PoE is also parasitic power?
<hodapp>
hyper_ch: hmmm. dunno. maybe.
<clever>
hyper_ch: extremely different setup
<hyper_ch>
that ethernet cable powers my T46Gs and still provide network
<clever>
proper 1-wire, will feed power over the data wire, when not doing comms, and it has to know how long to keep power on
<hyper_ch>
T48Gs
<clever>
and its basically unplugging the power really fast, to send data
<hyper_ch>
ok
<clever>
power over ethernet reused unused pairs to send power, while keeping the data on full time
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<hyper_ch>
so ethernet cables have unused wires?
<clever>
yeah, the old 100mbit system only used half the wires
<clever>
and even with gigabit, your sending AC signals, and can also mix DC in on the same wires
<hodapp>
clever: it doesn't use unused pairs, rather it relies on the fact that Ethernet uses differential signaling and so common-mode voltages are ignored
<clever>
hodapp: depends on which PoE system it is, smart or dumb
<clever>
hyper_ch: half way into the 2nd paragraph, i'm thinking, wifi jammer
<clever>
just spam the airwaves and it goes down
<clever>
hence why i avoid wifi whenever possible
<hyper_ch>
yeah, wifi is so much slower than internet nowadays... :)
<clever>
and a few paragraphs down, its not even jamming
<clever>
its just plain old deauth
<clever>
hyper_ch: i can think of 2 things to help prevent this issue, a: record video on the camera, and resend lost video to a central machine (not just realtime), b: moar cameras!
<clever>
so even if you deauth, the video will still go up eventualy, and now your caught on film
<hyper_ch>
:)
<clever>
oh, and on the topic of deliveries like that
<clever>
ive found packages just sitting on the door step on many occasions
<clever>
and also, i live in the middle of nowhere, the main door is almost never locked
<clever>
and i recently discovered the secondary door hadnt been locked in over a year
<clever>
and half the windows dont latch right either
<clever>
if you know the right one, you can just slip in :P
<pie_>
anyone know how to get audio on mednafen/mednaffe working?
<hyper_ch>
I remember from Michael Moore's documentatires... Canadians don't lock their doors
<pie_>
hyper_ch, havent you seen any canadian horror movies?
<pie_>
hyper_ch, if they lock the door the moose gets them
<hyper_ch>
not the caribous?
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<hyper_ch>
but I wonder, if there's a break-in and entry, will they still use the windows to get in or the front door?
<woffs>
so the windows dont get destroyed, and neither the door
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<pie_>
ah well hm sdl sound worked *shrug*
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<ixxie>
FRidh[m]: how do I run JupyterLab once its installed? I the command isn't available for some reason
<ixxie>
FRidh[m]: a service module hasn't been implemented for any of the jupyter stuff right?
<jefflovejapan>
I'm trying to set up port forwarding on a nix vm running in virtual box on my mac. For a non-nix setup I think I'd want to edit /etc/sysct.conf to enable port forwarding but it looks like that file doesn't exist on my machine. Can I configure this by editing my configuration.nix?
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<hodapp>
hm, haven't used JupyterLab, only Jupyter
<mkbucc>
hi all
<ixxie>
hodapp: I would be happy if I figured out how to run jupyter in NixOS as well
<mkbucc>
nixops + virtual box: i can't get "trivial" example in manual to work.
<ixxie>
jefflovejapan: Nix vm or NixOS vm?
<jefflovejapan>
nixos vm
<mkbucc>
nixops thinks ip is 192.168.56.102
<mkbucc>
but ifconfig says vboxnet0 is 192.168.31.1
<mkbucc>
error: unable to start SSH master connection to ‘root@192.168.56.102’
<mkbucc>
huh, dhcp server on vboxnet0 says 192.168.56.100/255.255.255.0. so nixops is correct.
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<doublehp>
I am using firefox to access a CCTV device; the video rectangle complains "No plug-in detected."; how do I edit ~/.nixpkgs/config.nix to have Firefox include the missing plugin ? some forums talk about VLC ... but I don't know the syntax ...
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vF9Ny
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master c2031ee Tuomas Tynkkynen: iperf: 3.2 -> 3.3
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vF9Af
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master ce3924f Tuomas Tynkkynen: strace: 4.19 -> 4.20
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<ixxie>
doublehp: I think you need to use firefox-wrapper but I cannot find a nice example of how its used
<ixxie>
doublehp: which is a common problem
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vF9Aa
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 5ec0e09 Tuomas Tynkkynen: less: 520 -> 529
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<catern>
fascinating
<catern>
nix is segfaulting
<catern>
how do I get debugging symbols?
<catern>
I'm on Nix on Arch, not NixOS
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<doublehp>
catern: bash -e or -x ?
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<catern>
eh?
<catern>
I don't think that will help given that Nix is not written in bash :)
<hodapp>
not once was I able to get Nix to work right on Arch
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<hodapp>
was given a dozen different things that "should" fix it
<catern>
here is another weird issue
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<catern>
when I install things, the install output is very narrow?
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<shlevy>
johnw: Why isn't coq 8.7 the default?
<catern>
hmm, it only happens with nixUnstable
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<chreekat>
hm, i just tried a nixos-rebuild switch, and it says that absolutely everything will be built (not downloaded). I can't recall changing anything that would break pulling from the cache, but how do I check on these things?
<symphorien>
you may have overriden a package deep in the dependency tree
<hyper_ch>
chreekat: which channel are you using?
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<chreekat>
hyper_ch: my intuition is to say 'stable', but i'm not sure how to prove that. system.stateVersion = "17.03"?
<hyper_ch>
system.stateVersion is something different
<hyper_ch>
nix-channel --list
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<hyper_ch>
system.stateVersion is important for stuff like postgres/mysql dbs where stuff can change that can't be reverted
<chreekat>
hyper_ch: nix-channel says the same, 17.03. (I though stateVersion was something else, but wasn't sure)
<hyper_ch>
well, then you're not on unstable small... unstable small can get packages before binaries are built... so everything is built clinet side
<hyper_ch>
but with 17.03 that shouldn't happen
<hyper_ch>
so probably what symphorien said
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<chreekat>
Ok, the one thing I can think of is that I was experimenting with chroot, and I made a bind mount of /nix into the chroot dir. I got as far as running bash in the chroot successfully, then shut it down and (tried?) to unmount the binding. I wonder if something happened during that process?
<chreekat>
Now I'm looking at `mount` and I see something is mounted at /nix/store, though I think that's normal, yeah?
<chreekat>
Of course all of this could be a red herring, but I did a nixos-rebuild just fine a couple days ago
<chreekat>
and I'm trying to do it again with the same configuration.nix
<hyper_ch>
no idea
<chreekat>
i'll try the ol' reboot trick
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<liketechnik>
Hi guys, I just installed nixos on my pc and now I'm wondering if there are any packages that provide german language for my applications?
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<chreekat>
It wants to build literally everything - every package currently in use
<liketechnik>
well, yes i have set this to german, but for example in ubuntu, you have to install additional packages for example for libre office to be in german. in nix i can't even find these packages
<liketechnik>
I mean, my whole applications are in english although i set it to "de_DE.UTF-8"
<tilpner>
And LibreOffice does not have German translations?
<tilpner>
It should have, looking at the Nix file
<liketechnik>
so how do I enable them?
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<tilpner>
Look in Options > Language Settings > Languages > Language Of > User Interface
<liketechnik>
Oh wait, libre office is in german, but for example firefox is still english
<liketechnik>
and kde/plasma is a messy mixture of english/german
<tilpner>
That might be the best available. I don't know if Plasma is completely translated
<liketechnik>
Ok, so if understood correctly, according the i18n setting, all programs are translated if they have translations?
<samueldr>
that setting sets the LANG environment variable, as long as the software is built with localization, which I believe they should all be, it will be localized
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<liketechnik>
Ok, i got confused because in other distros i had, it was required to install additional packages for the translations being available
<liketechnik>
but thanks for your help :)
<samueldr>
that's understandable
<DanC>
I get an error at hubstaff/default.nix:30:77 whenever I try to `nix-env -i python` (or any other package). I searched github issues without luck. Any clues?
<samueldr>
though, liketechnik, looking at the packages list, there might be some stuff that splits localization/translations
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] orivej pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vFHId
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master dfd88fa Orivej Desh: bonnie: replace dead source link
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<samueldr>
I see kde-l10n-de, kde-l10n-de-qt4, and aspell-dict-de
<timbod7>
I'm just trying out nix for the first time, having installed it under ubuntu 16.04. It all seems to be working ok (once I worked around this issue: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/31700), except that my gtk apps appear to have no theming at all. This appears relevant: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/25838, but it's not clear what I should do.
<timbod7>
Any suggestions?
<DanC>
(how would I check whether I'm overriding hubstaff?)
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<tilpner>
DanC - I don't immediately see anything wrong with that. You can get more information by passing some amount of -v to nix-env. It might also be important to know what Nix version you're using
<tilpner>
DanC - You should also add /nix/store/r3lxhi5xz2mqshis956skc3n94483lii-nixpkgs-18.03pre120540.b8f7027360/nixpkgs/pkgs/applications/misc/hubstaff/default.nix to that gist
<DanC>
$ nix-env --version
<DanC>
nix-env (Nix) 1.11.8
<hyper_ch>
clever: still awake?
<tilpner>
DanC - That is ancient, please retry with a newer Nix
<DanC>
I added hubstaff/default.nix to that gist
<DanC>
replacing old ‘nix-1.11.8’
<DanC>
installing ‘nix-1.11.15’
<DanC>
is that somewhat modern?
<DanC>
that's what I get from `nix-env -iA nixpkgs.nix`
<tilpner>
Yes, that should be fine
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Mic92 pushed 2 new commits to staging: https://git.io/vFHLp
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/staging 9792c03 Roberto Di Remigio: ninja: 1.7.2 -> 1.8.2
<domenkozar>
did anyone ever manage to run pg_upgrade on nixos? :)
<samueldr>
chreekat: from the last 17.03, adding 17.03, updating the channel, nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade seems to download everything, all there is to build are services and such
<samueldr>
last 17.03 ova*
<chreekat>
samueldr: cool, so it's definitely something wrong on my machine
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<samueldr>
how exactly are you determining it's buildling everything?
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<chreekat>
wait wait it may not be 'everything'
<chreekat>
It may just be all haskell-land, which is (of course) ginormous
<samueldr>
newly failing jobs: approximately all of hasklland
<samueldr>
(that's your current channel revision)
<catern>
mmmmmmmmm hmmmmmmm m
<samueldr>
(I say approximately, but knowing nothing about that, it may be a third, one percent, or all)
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<catern>
is there a way to impurely evaluate a derivation as the current user, rather than running it through the nix-daemon as a build user?
<chreekat>
samueldr: well seeing as the compiler is the top of my 'to be built' list, I'd guess all
<chreekat>
and ghc is in fact a failing build in that log
<chreekat>
ta da
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<chreekat>
ok! So how do I use an older version of nixpkgs, assuming there's an older one that still has its artifacts available?
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<catern>
and what would impurely evaluating a derivation do, hmm..
<catern>
well, it would nix-store --add, I guess
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<chreekat>
hallelujah, looks like nix-channel --rollback will suffice
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<samueldr>
I'm interested to know if there's a way to force nix-channel to a specific revision, or URL
<chreekat>
yeah, so am i
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<samueldr>
I'm bypassing the issue by using a nixpkgs checkout
<chreekat>
I'm still pretty confounded that all of this reproducibility rests on top of an implicit, hard to control choice of nixpkgs rev, which updates at times uknown to me
<symphorien>
it is enough to replace the url of the channel with the url of the tarball of the revision of nixpkgs you want on github I think
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<catern>
so building a derivation outside of the store is really tricky/impossible for any derivation with non-realized dependencies
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<catern>
but if all the dependencies of the derivation are realized, it still seems possible
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<tomster>
how can i how old my version of dropbox is?
<catern>
and this is easiest, I guess, when done at a lower-level than the Nix language itself - basically just building the low-level derivation in the store
<tomster>
i've also deleted ~/.dropbox-dist but that didn't help
<symphorien>
you have to nixos-rebuild switch after nixos-channell --update, tomster
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<MP2E>
That was commited to master 2 days ago, that's why it isn't showing up on 17.04. We usually don't update 'stable' channels except for security updates
<MP2E>
perhaps that may have been backported though if the maintainer said they did
<MP2E>
if so, what symphorien said will fix it
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<tomster>
MP2E: i''ve actually switched my users' channel to unstable but that didn't work either
<catern>
one would put the derivation in the store, ensure that all its deps are realized, then run some script which processes aterms, builds them, and puts the output in the store
<tomster>
and i've run nixos-rebuild switch
<MP2E>
hm i'll check if nix unstable has updated by then
<catern>
like nix-prefetch-url but backwards? could it replace nix-prefetch-url?
<MP2E>
looks like unstable is 4 days old compared to master, so that makes sense
<samueldr>
if nixos-unstable hasn't advanced, there are tests that failed (I presume), you might not be able to even rebuild everyting if you change your system's channel
<MP2E>
yeah, for this it should be just fine imo
<MP2E>
well you might need to build QT actually hm
<MP2E>
but if you don't mind that, no harm done
<samueldr>
as for your user's channel, dropbox might not be built in nixos-unstable-small
<MP2E>
(i personally build off of nixpkgs master cause i don't mind rebuilds lol)
<tomster>
i'm fairly new to nixos, so maybe in this particular case i will simply wait a few days...
<samueldr>
hmmm, using github archives as nixpkgs channel still fails
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<katona>
Hi, for some reason nix wants to compile several gnome packages on nixos-rebuild. I try to use the gnome 3.26 repo (it's currently a pull request but it is being built by hydra, and the latest commit is already built)
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<katona>
I've already made a backup from my config and generated a default one and only enabled x11 and gnome3 but no luck so far
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] dezgeg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vFHYB
<NixOS_GitHub>
nixpkgs/master 0347174 Tuomas Tynkkynen: fio: 3.1 -> 3.2
<samueldr>
ah, I think I understand what's going on with github tarballs and nix-channel
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<hiroshi>
hyper_ch: thanks a lot man. nixOs it is working with zfs . I can't wait for the next release with encryption and maybe full zfs disk [with boot]
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] nicknovitski opened pull request #31802: newsboat: init at 2.10.1 (master...newsboat) https://git.io/vFHYj
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<tomster>
not sure if this is nixos related but since i've switched to it my i3 setup is behaving a bit wonky, in particular *sometimes* using $mod-h/j/k/l to move focus stops working (usually with terminal windows) has anyone here had something simlar?
<hyper_ch>
hiroshi: I already use native zfs root encryption
<hiroshi>
hyper_ch: you are in testing. I'm just installed nixos
<hiroshi>
haha
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<hyper_ch>
:)
<tomster>
i'm using a verbatim copy of my previous config (which i run under FreeBSD) so i don't think it's an issue with the configuration per se
<tomster>
i first thought i was the fault of the terminal program (hijacking the mod4 key) but it happens with other terminals, too, including xterm
<samueldr>
when using the nixos.org channel URL, the channel will include a symlink `nixpkgs -> .`, which will make nixos-rebuild work with the channel named nixos
<samueldr>
when using a github tarball, as the nixos channel, there is no such symlink, no nixpkgs folder "inside" the channel
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<hyper_ch>
gchristensen: well, I'm still debugging my zfs issue with tcaputi... he told me to gdp the zfs.ko module... but the problem is that it will look for files on /tmp - I think those files were created during compiling.... how to run gdb when those files have vanished?
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<forgetful>
Hello everybody. I am getting this error while building a project with hydra: output path /nix/store/jm62jzrds8ksmq9pvl31z7r1143cflh6-named.root has sha256 hash 05nlfqvny1hy2kwaf03qb7bwcpxncfp6ds0b14symqgl9csziz1i when 0vdrff4l8s8grif52dnh091s8qydhh88k25zqd9rj66sf1qwcwxl was expected. How can I fix it? Thanks!
<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] gleber opened pull request #31805: nixos/system: make switch-to-configuration script pure (master...make-switch-to-configuration-pure) https://git.io/vFHG3
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<jeaye>
Mic92: I'm not sure if your comment was suggesting that I change the release notes myself, so I've followed up with what that change might look like.
<jeaye>
If it's good, and that's what you wanted, I can add it to the PR.
<jeaye>
Mic92: Right, that comment just _said_ something, rather than dictating something needed to be done. Is his point that anyone should be able to jump back to 15.07 and thus we should leave that setting in?
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<jeaye>
Mic92: Oh, I think I see what he's saying.
<jeaye>
Now that that's gone, if they fix their host keys, there's nothing stopping them from jumping to 17.03.
<jeaye>
grahamc: Boy, it could just be me being new to working with nixpkgs, but that wasn't super clear.
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<NixOS_GitHub>
[nixpkgs] Profpatsch opened pull request #31806: nixos/doc/manual: print context on failing xmllint validation (master...xmllint-context) https://git.io/vFHc3
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<slack1256>
can somebody run stepmania from the repos?
<slack1256>
I got a crash by just launching, so I wanna know what the other are doing