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<bqv[m]> do you guys ever get the hankering to try wayland, though?
<bqv[m]> i mean i can't imagine switching from exwm
<bqv[m]> but i also want to use wayland
<ldlework> nope
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<qyliss> I feel exactly the inverse :D
<qyliss> I'd love to try exwm, but can't imagine going back to X11
<ldlework> from a user perspective all i know is i run qtile as my window manager, and i have extended that quite a lot
<ldlework> i never think about X11 so that's why my answer is no to whether a hankering ever takes place
<qyliss> I think about X11 every time I see somebody else struggling with multiple monitors :P
<bqv[m]> wayland just seems so much cleaner
<bqv[m]> and it has xwayland so it's not even a breaking change, the only problem is the window managers
<bqv[m]> and nobody wants to write a wayland compositor for emacs
<bqv[m]> (would it really be so hard?)
<ldlework> why not?
<ldlework> bqv[m]: give it a go
<qyliss> Need Wayland support in Emacs first, probably :P
<bqv[m]> wait, surely emacs supports it, it's using a gtk toolkit by default
<qyliss> I've been using https://github.com/masm11/emacs, which is _getting there_, but upstream Emacs doesn't work on Wayland at all.
<qyliss> Oh, no no no no
<qyliss> One sec
<qyliss> upstream Emacs was the only application I use that used XWayland.
<bqv[m]> oh my lord
<bqv[m]> > Commit messages are in Japanese.
<bqv[m]> hahaha
<qyliss> Most of them aren't IIRC
<qyliss> But yeah, some of them.
<qyliss> I've been fairly happily running that for a while
<qyliss> And it is getting there
<bqv[m]> interestingly, this issue https://github.com/ch11ng/exwm/issues/559 mentions it should be pretty easy with wlroots and dynamic modules
<bqv[m]> but they don't want to do that, because dynamic modules are "not supported"?
<bqv[m]> pretty sure they are though
<bqv[m]> between that emacs fork, and wlroots, i'm pretty sure something could work
<qyliss> Probably!
<bqv[m]> i don't wanna start Yet Another Project that i just never finish
<bqv[m]> heh.
<bqv[m]> heheheh.
<bqv[m]> i have a great name for it
<bqv[m]> "easton"
<bqv[m]> it's like weston, but for emacs
<qyliss> nice lol
<alexarice[m]> qyliss: How usable is that "fixed" version of emacs?
<qyliss> Very!
<qyliss> I use it all day every day
<qyliss> There are occasionally small bugs to do with resizing or whatever
<qyliss> But very rarely
<alexarice[m]> thanks, I might give it a try
<ldlework> what I have working with my ORM so far: https://gist.github.com/dustinlacewell/9fdf73c12b47735f4f1fe63b41348215
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<ldlework> ORM progress: https://gist.github.com/dustinlacewell/9fdf73c12b47735f4f1fe63b41348215 You can now change object attributes and save them to the DB, and then run queries and get back EIEIO object instances
<adisbladis> I'd switch to wayland in a heartbeat if I could get the same user experience as EXWM
<xantoz> adisbladis: just get started writing your own compositor :P
<adisbladis> xantoz: It's not like I already have enough things to do or anything...
<xantoz> adisbladis: no, no. not at all :D
<xantoz> basically we'd need to turn emacs into a wayland compositor. might already be possible even though it only has an X11 backend?
<xantoz> would need a native backend to be truly useful, however
<bqv[m]> normal-top-level-add-subdirs-to-load-path is my favourite function name
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<xantoz> or maybe, eventually, there will come some highly programmable compositor that can be controleld via IPC, reinventing X11
<xantoz> or well, in part
<xantoz> would be really nice to see a compositor where the window management is not integral to the compositor itself
<adisbladis> ++
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<ratsclub> hello, guys!
<ratsclub> how are you doing?
<ratsclub> may any of you guys can help me with a error I'm facing with services.emacs?
<ratsclub> I can't make my emacs start as a service
<ratsclub> It always tells me that emacs.service does not exist
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