gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-dev to: NixOS Development (#nixos for questions) | https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/trunk-combined https://channels.nix.gsc.io/graph.html | 18.09 release managers: vcunat and samueldr | https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-dev
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<samueldr> I'm unhappy with how I need to say "except aarch64-linux" here https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/9265c964a8a970286e6a4c2adcafc29cc83c253a/nixos/release-combined.nix#L68
<gchristensen> hrm yeah
<samueldr> I'd prefer if it elegantly knew the test isn't available :/
<samueldr> though I'm not 100% confident I understand the intention behind all the "all"
<samueldr> I think it's right that it fails if the attribute for $desired_platform isn't available, otherwise something could vanish and eval of release-combined wouldn't fail
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<gchristensen> I agree
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<pbogdan> not sure if that's a known issue but it seems https://nixos.org/channels/ is not updating?
<samueldr> good thing is it seems it's not only the url endpoint that's having issues L/
<samueldr> :/*
* samueldr digs
<samueldr> just looking at 18.09, unless I'm terrible, it seems like tested is fine, got spurious failures, but probably would have updated anyway? https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixos/release-18.09/tested
<samueldr> unless I'm terribly bad at looking*
<pbogdan> right, few of the channels seem to have a successful, finished evaluation but haven't updated..
<samueldr> all the same day it stopped updating
<samueldr> I *think* there were updates to the nixos org configs
<samueldr> but it may require people in europe to be awake
<samueldr> (no idea if any of the changes could have affected the channels update thing)
<gchristensen> update-nixpkgs-unstable-start[3339]: release is ‘nixpkgs-19.03pre161900.61c3169a0e1’ (build 85554875), eval is 1493866,
<gchristensen> lol, found the bug.
<samueldr> uh?
<gchristensen> some work to manage AWS configs with Terraform happened approx 5 days ago
<samueldr> yeah, that's the kind of thing I was hand-waving earlier :)
<gchristensen> ok good night
<samueldr> 'night
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<zimbatm> thanks for the debugging gchristensen
<zimbatm> channels are pushing again
<__Sander__> gchristensen: I have a small ofborg question
<__Sander__> this pull request has a failed build status: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/50596
<{^_^}> #50596 (by svanderburg, 4 weeks ago, open): Mobile updates
<__Sander__> reason is that we implemented a function that requires someone to accept the license of the Android SDK first
<__Sander__> as a result, the evaluation fails
<__Sander__> if I integrate this PR, will this become a problem for future evaluations?
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<gchristensen> yes, a red X always mens never merge
<gchristensen> __Sander__: I'm not sure why this requires special license code, beyond the addition of a new license to licenses.nix and the normal handling?
<__Sander__> gchristensen: it's because you need to accept the Android EULA
<__Sander__> without it you can't use it unfortunately
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<__Sander__> the weird thing is. this particular feature already existed before the merge
<__Sander__> I just simply ported that feature
<gchristensen> I think we handle this with oracle's java with requireFile
<gchristensen> so in order to actually fetch the source, they must accept the eula, but also we stick to the standard licenseing tooling
<__Sander__> gchristensen: difficulty is that the Android SDK is not a single file but an entire set of plugins
<gchristensen> aye, that is hard
<__Sander__> but
<__Sander__> even if I implement such an approach
<__Sander__> the evaluation is failed because of the program.adb NixOS module
<__Sander__> which makes a reference to Android platform tools, but that evaluation will fail
<gchristensen> no, it will evaluate fine
<gchristensen> but it won't build -- this is fine
<gchristensen> I think the source of the problem is using relatedPackages
<__Sander__> hmm
<gchristensen> try removing those?
<__Sander__> hmm maybe I should try that
<gchristensen> relatedPackgaes knows how to handle license problems
<gchristensen> I think it is not nice that this uses its own licensing code :/
<gchristensen> but I see the problem and I don't know a solution
<__Sander__> maybe I need to change something in the Android packages generator
<__Sander__> to always blacklist the tools package or something with requireFile
<gchristensen> back in about 2hrs
<__Sander__> ok
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<janneke> o/
<Synthetica> __Sander__: on some CI platforms, you can automatically accept android license agreements, maybe look into how they are doing that
<__Sander__> I know that apt/dpkg has a feature to display a license agreement and asking the user for confirmation
<__Sander__> unfortunately, such a feature does not exists in Nix yet
<domenkozar> iirc nix by design doesn't block on user input
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<samueldr> for some non-redistributable things I think we're assuming that once it's in the store, the user agreed to the license (via prefetch) maybe the same could be done with either the source or the body of their license?
<samueldr> (I'm thinking about virtualbox here)
<samueldr> oh, I see this was talked about already (with java's eula)
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<qyliss^work> Are there criteria for when I should self-merge without a review? Eg, I've seen that simple package upgrades are usually okay, but I'm wondering about https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/52416, which is technically a new package, and has sat for a few days with no comments.
<{^_^}> #52416 (by alyssais, 3 days ago, open): icu63: init at 63.1
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<bennofs[m]> qyliss^work: aren't new packages even less critical than updates? nothing that could break really if you merge it
<qyliss> I guess that’s one way of looking at it!
<qyliss> otoh, new packages are more subjective and potentially more stuff to argue about, and usually more code
<samueldr> hi, there's #52534 on which I'd like some feedback, ideally before the week-end; I would merge and watch hydra to fix any issues it causes
<{^_^}> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/52534 (by samueldr, 20 hours ago, open): nixos/release-combined: adds aarch64-linux as supported
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<__Sander__> gchristensen: removing adb from relatedPackages seemed to do the trick
<__Sander__> status is green now
<gchristensen> great
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<__Sander__> this relatedPackages property scares me a bit, but I guess that's a different discussion
<__Sander__> anyway, the Android SDK pull request is now mergeable
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<timokau[m]> I'd again like to push re-enabling email notifications on hydra. The latest staging merge introduced some failures and I only noticed them because I made it a habit to regularly check some of my packages manually. Even thought about writing a script to parse the hydra html page, but that seems backwards.
<{^_^}> nixos-org-configurations#51 (by timokau, 19 weeks ago, open): Re-enable email notifications
<gchristensen> I agree with that. ..
<dtz> +1 I think about this every few weeks lol
<dtz> CI is so much less useful --especially on the scale of the NixOS/nixpkgs package set-- if you have to check it vs it yells at you
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<timokau[m]> Who actually has the permissions to change the hydra configuration?
<gchristensen> timokau[m]: well, there are a few people who have access to change the configuration, but I think we would all defer to niksnut to make this change
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<gchristensen> I've been chatting with him about that change today ... but it got a bit interrupted by a sour DNS update
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<timokau[m]> Good to know its at least on the radar :) Although I wish he'd voice his objections in the issue discussion
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