gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-dev to: NixOS Development (#nixos for questions) | https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/trunk-combined https://channels.nix.gsc.io/graph.html | 18.03 release managers: fpletz and vcunat | https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-dev
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<dtz> meow meow
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<aminechikhaoui> o/
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<gchristensen> niksnut: thank you for the hydra patch =)
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<dtz> oh hooray
<niksnut> well, it remains to be seen whether it will help
<gchristensen> fingers-crossed.jpg
<niksnut> btw strace shows hydra-eval-jobs statting /nix/store/shn1yid0ishnrynjyf7jrqwzin1wgvg0-source/pkgs/stdenv/generic/check-meta.nix over and over again
<gchristensen> yikes, I thought check-meta was disabled by defeault
<Dezgeg> it's the allowBroken logic
<gchristensen> why would it be stating so much?
<Dezgeg> it does currently get re-evaluated for each package for some reason (I noticed once that builtins.getEnv is quite high in the list of most common builtin calls due to all the NIXPKGS_ALLOW_BROKEN checks)
<Dezgeg> I guess it should be moved to an attribute in all-packages.nix or something
<niksnut> probably 'import ./check-meta.nix' should be lifted out
<Dezgeg> yes
<gchristensen> ah yes the import is in mkDerivation itself
<niksnut> it may also be a problem with restricted eval
<niksnut> okay, the eval succeeded
<dtz> \o/
<dtz> sounds like fixing check-meta import is a good idea, even if doesn't improve much seems "right" thing to do
<dtz> i kinda thought import's were cached? or is the cache per context imported into or something?
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<orivej> Sonarpulse: thanks! I think LDEMULATION would not help there as the issue is with native compilation (Rust tests that it can build arm32 binaries as a native x86_64 compiler)
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<Sonarpulse> orivej: i suppose it depends if rust gets wrapped or unwrapped binaries
<Sonarpulse> but yeah
<Sonarpulse> its best not to rely on LDEMULATION in any event
<Sonarpulse> from the commmit description I'm confused whether there is a 0-priority winner
<Sonarpulse> or just a bunch of 1-prioritie
<Sonarpulse> but I guess we'll see when we try!
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<gchristensen> !!
<pierron> ^ I am amazed that NixOS is listed now!
<pierron> apparently this is a thing, we should check it out ;)
<Synthetica> Hype!
<pierron> ^ I do not mean you should buy it, I won't.
<gchristensen> how much is it? I can buy a community copy :P
<simpson> It's probably worthless.
<samueldr> looking at the linked source, it's mentioned (in the TOC) only in one header level
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<pierron> gchristensen: maybe you can request to have the section 7.14 as a sample for free.
<samueldr> though, googling the report name, I don't know who's the actual source :/
<Synthetica> Is this error just "retry later"? https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/gcc-8#tabs-errors
<cransom> huh. listed in the title even.
<Synthetica> NVM, it restarted
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<gchristensen> the discounted price is $2,000 USD
<cransom> tempted to 'request sample' with 'i only want the part that mentions nixos'
<Synthetica> By all means, please do
<gchristensen> I sent a follow-up email asking for it
<Synthetica> Cool, do let us know when you hear something back
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<cransom> the nwctrails cms could use some fixes. the images attached to blog posts on the right just link back to the current article, heh.
<Sonarpulse> pierron: hahaha good find
<simpson> pie_: Because it's a big meta-issue, sounds like. Did you want an issue which focused more specifically on something?
<pie_> not really just wondering
<dtz> what kernel version should nixpkgs binaries/libraries "require"? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/40578
<dtz> thoughts/discussion/answers requested O:)
<gchristensen> it should support CentOS 6 imo
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<dtz> gchristensen: could you add a comment saying that's your "vote"? Note that this is a vote or anything of the kind, but still would be nice to gather input before sorting out how we want to handle this
<dtz> ty! :)
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<obadz> So hydra did not evaluate master for a week? :(
<Synthetica> It's not the worst in recent history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/graph.html
<obadz> Synthetica: I assume this chart shows releases?
<Synthetica> obadz: Yeah
<obadz> What I was saying is there was not even an attempt to evaluate… let alone build… let alone release. For 1 week.
<Synthetica> Oh, wait
<Synthetica> Now I'm also wondering why that is
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<srhb> Synthetica: obadz: Because of the max heap size issue.
<srhb> There were plenty of attempts, but evaluation failed.
<Synthetica> Ah, yikes
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<andi-> hmpf someone forgot to add `ncursesReal` to `staging` (https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/ddbe9191ef1549e7695e5e02e545b1b3db46edb4#diff-036410e9211b4336186fc613f7200b12R10763) whats ericson2314s IRC nick? :/
<Synthetica> Isn't that Sonarpulse?
<andi-> not sure but could be
<andi-> rings a bell
<Synthetica> andi-: Yep
<Synthetica> His pic says "Sonarpulse"
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<obadz> srhb: link?
<obadz> thx
<Drakonis[m]> apparently nixos is relevant now
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<Sonarpulse> Synthetica: hi
<Sonarpulse> Ericson2314 is me
<Sonarpulse> angerman: https://github.com/richfelker/musl-cross-make looks very very very useful
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<angerman> Sonarpulse: indeed!
<angerman> Sonarpulse: if I manage to get libgcc to build I should have gcc7 with posix threads built in one go.
<Sonarpulse> angerman: nice :)
<angerman> Sonarpulse: I’ll put that up as a PR tonight anyhow. It’ll still need some more guidance.
<Sonarpulse> angerman: cool happy to provide some
<angerman> But this whole cc/bintool/wrapping business is rather confusing.
<Sonarpulse> yes
<angerman> And not very flexible :-(
<angerman> Eg trying to just replace the libc/cc/bintools in the stdenv.
<angerman> Sonarpulse: there is this comment regarding overrideCC on the libcCross in all-packages. With a TODO.
<angerman> Sonarpulse: I don’t fully understand that one :-/
<Sonarpulse> angerman: oh yeah you can hopefully avoid that
<Sonarpulse> angerman: basically we are shoving two gccs into one nix bootstrapping stage
<Sonarpulse> and its not good
<Sonarpulse> but with your stuff
<Sonarpulse> you could make stdenvNoCC the stage.nix parameter
<angerman> Sonarpulse: also overrideCC got me into infinite recursion...
<Sonarpulse> err sorry a new stdenvNoLibc
<Sonarpulse> stage.nix takes stdenvNoLibc
<Sonarpulse> and then stdenv = stdenvNoLibc.override { cc = stdenvNoLibc.cc.override { cc = ...; }; };
<angerman> Sonarpulse: also it seems using crossSystem and overlays together always leads to infinite recursion :-(
<Sonarpulse> yeah just don't try to do this with overlays
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<angerman> Sonarpulse: but overlays and crossSystem should eventually work, no?
<Sonarpulse> angerman: it should work
<Sonarpulse> but you will want to change how bootstrappign works
<Sonarpulse> and overlays only change individual bootstrapping stages
<angerman> Sonarpulse: so it’s just broken right now and might eventually work?