gchristensen changed the topic of #nixos-dev to: NixOS Development (#nixos for questions) | https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/trunk-combined https://channels.nix.gsc.io/graph.html | 18.03 release managers: fpletz and vcunat | https://logs.nix.samueldr.com/nixos-dev
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<simpson> Possibly stupid question: Is there a fundamental reason why we can't have a nice rubyPackages?
<samueldr> possibly stupid question: what would be a nice rubyPackages and what's not nice with what we have?
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<samueldr> (I like ruby, so if I can have nice things I'll take nice things!)
<simpson> I'm currently fighting with Github's linguist tool. It wants to do a bunch of bundler stuff.
<simpson> It'd be cool if I could just `rubyPackages.withPackages [ bundler rake eventmachine ]` or whatever.
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<teto1> I am interested in helping with the libvirtd side of nixops, for instance with https://github.com/NixOS/nixops/pull/824 https://github.com/NixOS/nixops/pull/922, https://github.com/NixOS/nixops/pull/903 I am reluctant to ask for merging rights but at least in the short term, I wonder if that would be ok ?
<simpson> teto1: I think that you're certainly entitled to get somebody with privs looking at this. This looks like a lot of stuff that you and others have done to try to improve quality of life.
<simpson> I'm not that person, though. Sorry.
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<gchristensen> now that Nix is getting bitwise operators does that mean we can finally implement crypto right in nix?
<andi-> o.O
<gchristensen> NixSSL
<andi-> I found a rust-webframework the other day that is using nix to connect modules and parts of the system.. all my love for Nix but that didn't feel right.. same feeling for NixSSL
<gchristensen> how about Pretty Nixy Privacy?
<andi-> will Nix gain access to sockets?
<andi-> https://github.com/fractalide/fractalide was the thing I found the other day
<andi-> reproducible SSL handshakes. All handshakes are equal! All the same keys! \o/
<gchristensen> =)
<adisbladis> gchristensen: On a more serious note: Encrypted store paths
<gchristensen> :)
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<hedning[m]> seems like `trunk-combined` is stuck, last evaluation six days ago: https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/trunk-combined
<gchristensen> cc niksnut "Too many heap sections: Increase MAXHINCR or MAX_HEAP_SECTS" -- is there something we should be doing to prevent this, or is this fine?
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<Synthetica> Would https://hydra.nixos.org/build/73822754 be cause to just disable llvm tests on aarch64?
<Synthetica> Also: could someone restart aborted jobs on https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/gcc-8?
<dtz> iirc llvm tests failed w/gcc8 on x86_64 too? or has that been fixed?
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<dtz> yep, was some mips tests as well. Dunno what that's about.
<Synthetica> Aborted
<Synthetica> dtz
<dtz> Oh, I was just reporting from my own experience. Really should move my Hydra instance to be public so I can at least link to it lol, but.... one day :).
<Synthetica> dtz: Oh right 😅
* Synthetica doesn't have a vps, let alone a private Hydra instance
<dtz> mine's currently powered by and controls a collection of desktop machines under my desk @ univ LOL O:)
* dtz wants a sticker saying "I am a cloud"
<dtz> private hydra was motivated by finding myself creating nix-based jobsets executed by jenkins..and deciding that was a bit silly (and it was a bit ergonomically rough around the edges of course)
<Synthetica> Just print out xkcd 908 with a caption like dtz_irl
<dtz> lmao, yes
<dtz> fwiw folks have been saying gcc 8.2 is rather buggy, citing things like most P2 bugs in any (recent?) release, etc.-- so might be a bit of a lost cause to get everything working with it as-is? Dunno, forwarding what I've heard but haven't investigated so take with appropriate portions of salt :)
<dtz> also i'd love an explanation how gcc8 + llvm => mips tests fail
<dtz> lol
<Synthetica> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<Synthetica> s/8.2/8.1/ btw?
<dtz> oh, probably sorry
<Synthetica> I mean, Arch has switched to 8.1 as the default, so it should be doable?
<dtz> (yes)
<dtz> oh, have they? yeah I'd say that's probably plenty good enough to make it at least possible for us
<Synthetica> According to Repology at least: https://repology.org/metapackage/gcc/versions
<dtz> and as mysterious (for now) as the llvm test failure thing is, at least it's caught by tests. Instead of silently miscompiling things for us to find while debugging some bug report in a few weeks lol
<Synthetica> Yeah, that's a good point
<Synthetica> Could mark it as broken instead?
<dtz> oh I believe you, I've been disconnected for a week or so, very likely I've missed things :)
<Synthetica> (I don't use Arch btw)
<dtz> but neat link regardless
<dtz> i did before NixOS, before that long time slackware user O:)
<Synthetica> For me it was (Various debian/ubuntu variants) -> Arch -> NixOS
<Synthetica> But I've been using only been using Linux full-time since I switched to Arch ~2.5 years ago
<dtz> fun to learn people's path to NixOS :)
<dtz> maybe one day someone'll submit a PR magically magically improving eval memory usage/time lol
<dtz> A DTZ CAN DREAM, OKAY?! ;)
<Synthetica> Just gonna ask "Also: could someone restart aborted jobs on https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/gcc-8?" again, since it got kinda burried
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<clever> dtz: a friend that was using nixos had a bug in his teamspeak that prevented him from clicking all the links i was pasting him
<clever> dtz: i went a bit too far into debugging, it, and wound up installing nixos locally :P
<Synthetica> ... Wow
<clever> ultimately, i wasnt able to reproduce it under firefox, but stuck with nixos, and then eventually reproduced it under chrome
<Synthetica> clever: do you have hydra access?
<clever> i have access to 3 hydras, but not hydra.nixos.org
<dtz> LOL yeah
<Synthetica> Aw, shame
<clever> and i am about to re-deploy one of them
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<Sonarpulse> dtz: staging is fixed
<Sonarpulse> orivej: see email from binutils people?
<Sonarpulse> so now that we set LDEMULATION we might not need your path
<Sonarpulse> but they ought to improve their autodetection
<Synthetica> Sonarpulse: do you have hydra.nixos.org access?
<Sonarpulse> Synthetica: yes
<Sonarpulse> what's up?
<Synthetica> Would you mind restarting the aborted jobs on https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/gcc-8?
<Sonarpulse> sure
<Synthetica> Thanks :)
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<Sonarpulse> Synthetica: done
<Sonarpulse> sorry I didn't do it faster
<Synthetica> NP
<Synthetica> I mostly wanted it running overnight so I could look at the result tomorrow
<dtz> Sonarpulse: wonderful, thanks! :D
<Sonarpulse> Synthetica: ah ok I guess I'm not so bad then
<Sonarpulse> dtz: just wish I had made the original correct :/
<Sonarpulse> and wish I had seen "--" as, duh the flags won't commute
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<Sonarpulse> orivej: well played :)
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