<LnL>
yeah, dunno what we should do with darwin builds...
<gchristensen>
oh?
<LnL>
I feel slightly uncomfortable with allowing recent contributers, but on the other hand it's very useful to people and I'm probably being a bit paranoid
<gchristensen>
right
<gchristensen>
I feel the same way
<LnL>
apparently it's a holiday tomorrow
<gchristensen>
oh?
<LnL>
anything specific I should give a shot while waiting for stdenv builds?
<gchristensen>
how about a macos qemu image running ofborg + a nixos service to start it and destroy it? :)
<LnL>
heh, at this rate I might aswell start using a hackintosh again
<gchristensen>
hopefully a qemu image is easier to get running than actual hardware
<gchristensen>
and it only has to run for a while, it doesn't even need to shutdown successfully!
<LnL>
well, I don't install the beta for testing on my physical machine :D
<LnL>
what!!! ghc is still building...
<gchristensen>
:o
<LnL>
I started a build this morning, I wake display after dinner and see QuickCheck compiling
<gchristensen>
jeeze
<LnL>
oh I didn't change the settings, this thing has no resources
<gchristensen>
:) zimbatm and I were talking about that today
<samueldr>
I have a macOS VM with that already at home
<samueldr>
but I didn't take the time yet to prepare something more streamlined to *actually* use it
<samueldr>
though it worked quite well
<LnL>
I find it a bit amusing that it's pretty tricky to get that working on darwin, and useless if you do
<zimbatm>
samueldr: did you look into making the boot unattended?
<samueldr>
I had notes from a previous try (before I was a nixos user)
<zimbatm>
the chameleon boot loaded requires a user input the boot at the moment
<samueldr>
(I had a port of pacman going nicely for a small while)
<samueldr>
zimbatm: though IIRC I'm lagging one macOS version in my fun times with that
<samueldr>
but I *really* wanted to look into it since __there's so much blocked stuff due to darwin regressions__
<zimbatm>
I have a highsierra image working at the moment
<zimbatm>
I just need a machine to upload all of this
<zimbatm>
there is 26GB of data with the iso and qemu disk image
<zimbatm>
I also started a VirtualBox + Packer version but got tired of re-building my kernel
<zimbatm>
I also did a bunch of research to automate the installation but each macOS release is getting worse and worse
<samueldr>
:(
<zimbatm>
the latest version has broken all the unattended methods
<samueldr>
(I found the same thing)
<samueldr>
exactly
<samueldr>
I know how important the darwin feature is, but wow would it be easier on the contributors if it went away :(
<samueldr>
(at the cost of risking even more linuxification if nixpkgs)
<samueldr>
of*
<zimbatm>
there is a workaround with packer, it's possible to emulate user inputs but it's going to be very timining-sensitive
<LnL>
yeah, I think the darwin support is good in general
<LnL>
apple should just stop being stupid
<zimbatm>
recently I saw pkgs/os-specific/bsd appearing, it's cool
<zimbatm>
yeah
<LnL>
eg. free up the weird eula for headless installs
<samueldr>
yes, I want to love darwin, but apple makes it hard :/
<samueldr>
also love macOS/iOS re: web development is a pain (but that's neither ofborg nor nixpkgs related)
<LnL>
and stop closing the door on unix, it's one of the biggest selling points of the platform IMHO
<samueldr>
it's certified unix!
<samueldr>
and hasn't changed since!
* samueldr
weeps
<Dezgeg>
certified unix in the same way Windows NT has an official POSIX certification?
<samueldr>
malicious compliance almost (imho)
<MichaelRaskin>
More like checkbox-driven compliance, as far as I know
<samueldr>
I thought it was the same (jk)
<MichaelRaskin>
No-no, if MS was maliciously compliant, the implementation would look almost normal, but things debugged there would never work on any other implementation for weird reasons