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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq merged pull request #94757 → nixos/smartd: fix description for docbook → https://git.io/JJ6dZ
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<euandreh> energizer: you probably need to run ./bootstrap.sh before
<euandreh> energizer: then it'll generate the ./configure script
<energizer> euandreh: ok
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<energizer> euandreh: https://bpa.st/ZYAQ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @lucperkins opened pull request #94761 → dapr-cli: init at 0.9.0 → https://git.io/JJ6NA
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<euandreh> energizer: Do you have nix installed already?
<euandreh> I mean, before building
<euandreh> If so, I'd guess that the shell has the environment configured for the build
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<euandreh> Maybe inside the nix repo directory: nix-shell --run ./bootstrap.sh
<euandreh> or just enter the nix-shell itself to get the environment for the rest of the build, and do a ./bootstrap.sh after that
<euandreh> Let me try it here myself
<euandreh> it does :)
<euandreh> If you don't have nix already installed, you're probably missing some dependencies that autotools are trying to use
<euandreh> and you'll have to take a look at 'configure.ac' to find out
<euandreh> With nix-shell I got till the make part, but I stopped because I want to save some battery right now
<euandreh> xD
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<energizer> euandreh: i'm trying to install nix on a machien that doesn't have nix and i dont have root
<euandreh> Take a look at 'configure.ac' than
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<chipb> I'd, uh, suggest building on a machine you *do* have privileges on and copy it over.
<chipb> unless it's an egregious breech of policies where you're running it.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq opened pull request #94762 → cproto, ocamlPackages.gmetadom, yasr: use patch file extension → https://git.io/JJ6xT
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<daddy_james[m]> I'm following this guide for full disk encryption https://cryptsetup-team.pages.debian.net/cryptsetup/encrypted-boot.html and there's something that is probably different on nixos, how get the equivalent effect of editing /etc/crypttab so I don't have to enter my passphrase twice at boot?
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<daddy_james[m]> better yet, is there a documentation to boot.initrd.luks?
<daddy_james[m]> nvm found it
<daddy_james[m]> I'm going to try boot.initrd.luks.devices.<name?>.keyFile and hope it doesn't nuke my system
<daddy_james[m]> wish me luck...
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<matthewcroughan> clever how do I downgrade my machine? --downgrade?
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<matthewcroughan> I'm stuck on 20.09, I wanna go back to stable :(
<matthewcroughan> I've commented stuff out in .nix-channels but no luck
<matthewcroughan> any ideas jonringer?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam opened pull request #94764 → grpc: 1.29.0 -> 1.31.0 → https://git.io/JJ6hf
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #81481 → fix TUN networking in LXC containers → https://git.io/Jv2nw
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<dxb[m]> matthewcroughan just remove to references to unstable, put them back to normal, and rebuild
<matthewcroughan> dxb[m] I feel I've done that, and it has not made a difference to my surprise.
<matthewcroughan> Where could the references still be lingering?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #84644 → csxcad: init at 0.6.2 → https://git.io/JvAFQ
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed commit from @matthuszagh to master « csxcad: init at unstable-2020-02-08 »: https://git.io/JJ6hy
<dxb[m]> configuration.nix
<matthewcroughan> In the for of what?
<matthewcroughan> form of what*
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<dxb[m]> if you paste the whole thing i'll take a look
<matthewcroughan> There is nothing in configuration.nix that references unstable.
<dxb[m]> what about in your sway.nix?
<matthewcroughan> No mention of unstable there either.
<dxb[m]> OH… you changed the channel, didn't you?
<matthewcroughan> Yes. But all that does is add text to /root/.nix-channel doesn't it?
<dxb[m]> try `sudo nix-channel --list`
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<matthewcroughan> No output dxb[m]
<matthewcroughan> Since I have commented out the channel.
<dxb[m]> there should definitely be output with that
<dxb[m]> i mean, i'm a n00b with nix so idk but that doesn't sound right
<dxb[m]> did you run it with sudo?
<matthewcroughan> yes.
<matthewcroughan> If I remove my # to undo the commenting out in /root/.nix-channels then it returns a value
<dxb[m]> did you remove the channel then? maybe you need to just put the stable channel back
<matthewcroughan> Ah.
<matthewcroughan> What does that look like?
<dxb[m]> no need to fuck with that file directly. use the right command
<matthewcroughan> but that's more work -_-
<matthewcroughan> it's just a text file
<matthewcroughan> Sometimes `git config` isn't worth bothering with either
<matthewcroughan> or `sysctl`
<dxb[m]> how is that more work?
<dxb[m]> it's one command
<matthewcroughan> because I have to remember the command
<dxb[m]> it's well documented
<matthewcroughan> documentation, for adding a line to a file?
<dxb[m]> it's literally nix-channel
<matthewcroughan> `vim /root/.nix-channels`
<dxb[m]> ok, do it the non-standard way then. but quit asking for help lol
<matthewcroughan> Unless this is doing more than just adding text to that file, I don't see how it matters what I do.
<matthewcroughan> And I think you're being pedantic by worrying about it, there are many ways to do the exact same thing.
<matthewcroughan> https://nixos.org/nix/manual/#sec-channels does not document how to go back to stable. Maybe it should.
<matthewcroughan> Maybe doing `nix-channel --remove` does more than remove the text from the file.
<matthewcroughan> Can you confirm or deny this clever?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #94523 → mailcore2: 0.6.3 -> 0.6.4 → https://git.io/JJVHL
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<dxb[m]> you're pretty quick to blame the docs or blame someone trying to help you. it's a bit unreasonable. even if that command is only editing that file and nothing else (which is probably the case) it's going to get the format right every time. why would you be against using the command? it's fewer keystrokes, well-documented, and less likely to introduce mistakes
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #94525 → micronaut: 1.3.6 -> 1.3.7 → https://git.io/JJVQm
<matthewcroughan> I'm not blaming things. I'm asking questions, you're trolling me :(
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<matthewcroughan> Can you please stop picking apart my every word?
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<matthewcroughan> I'm not against using the command. I want to understand how it works.
<matthewcroughan> If it just removes text from a file, or if it does more than that.
<matthewcroughan> Saying "The stuff is what the stuff is brother" isn't helpful. I don't just want to know what to do, I want to know *why* I'm doing it.
<dxb[m]> i'm not trolling anyone. i'm just as new at this as you are, but i read stuff, try stuff out, if it doesn't work i try again, i do things as they're documented
<matthewcroughan> I'm not a fan of blind leading the blind. I want to understand what I am accomplishing.
<daddy_james[m]> how could I get the equivalent effect in nixos of editing /etc/cryptsetup-initramfs/conf-hook and specifying KEYFILE_PATTERN so I can include a key file in my initramfs image?
<daddy_james[m]> I don't want to type in my password twice
<matthewcroughan> If I just took what you said and did it, I would be no more knowledgeable than when I started.
<dxb[m]> you can easily copy that file, run the command, and diff it if you want to know how it works
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<matthewcroughan> dxb[m] that doesn't reveal *anything* to me. Of course it removes text from the file. But what *else* does it do? That's the hard aprt.
<matthewcroughan> part*
<matthewcroughan> Indeed, it does more. It prints the following. "uninstalling 'nixos-20.09pre236721.840c782d507' " "building '/nix/store/xsk9wjy0dpp7w7d3r3bkzxzaklqdzq6q-user-environment.drv'..."
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #94542 → osu-lazer: 2020.725.0 -> 2020.801.0 → https://git.io/JJVNf
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<matthewcroughan> Now, when I try to rebuild it does the following warning: Nix search path entry '/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos' does not exist, ignoring
<bqv> Uninstalling nixos, heh
<matthewcroughan> bqv Hey, I did what he told me :D
<dxb[m]> <matthewcroughan "dxb that doesn't reveal *anythin"> then you can probably find the source for that command. but that's not something you _need_ to know, especially not this early in your journey. did you look through the source of fdisk before you ever partitioned your drives?
<matthewcroughan> I just want to go back to stable. The docs do not describe this.
<matthewcroughan> dxb[m] what you have told me to do seems wrong, I did it anyway without understanding it.
<matthewcroughan> dxb[m] no, but that's apples to oranges, this is such a small detail, this is again comparable to git config or sysctl, not a utility to manage partitions written in C
<dxb[m]> <matthewcroughan "dxb what you have told me to do "> more blame. i'm very new to nix still
<matthewcroughan> I'm not blaming you for anything, just poking fun :P
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<matthewcroughan> This is being a meta-victim
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<matthewcroughan> I have done nothing to blame anyone. Saying "The docs don't seem to say X" is not blaming the docs, it's asking if revision is necessary.
<dxb[m]> ok, you have fun then ✌️
<matthewcroughan> bqv So, if I want to revert to stable, do you know what I *should* be doing? The docs tell you how to get to Unstable but do not tell you how to get back to stable?
<colemickens> I've been using Nix for a long time, and I can't authoritatively say what `nix-channel` does. But @dxb is correct that the tool is well-documented and the source code is available.
<colemickens> If you read the man page for nix-channel like 15 minutes ago this wouldn't be an issue and you wouldn't have run off someone who took a decent amount of time to try and help you.
<matthewcroughan> colemickens He has blown it out of proportion. I just wanted to know if *all* it did was remove and add text to ~/.nix-channels
<bqv> If just booting an old generation doesn't work, I can't help you
<matthewcroughan> That is all there is to it, spending more time on the topic would be really annoying.
<colemickens> I can, and did, read scrollback.
<matthewcroughan> bqv oh hey that's the answer I guess that's the point of nix hahaha
<matthewcroughan> But I have since made changes to my config that I'd like to keep, that relate not to the channel.
<matthewcroughan> colemickens I was reading the man page and did, as he was responding and as I was responding.
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<matthewcroughan> I don't know why he's so upset that I would dare try to modify a file by hand lol.
<dxb[m]> <matthewcroughan "colemickens He has blown it out "> i didn't blow anything out of proportion. i've seen you ask easily answered questions (i've answered many of them, after having nix installed less than a week) and blame others for your problems 3 days in a row lol
<matthewcroughan> I'm just experimenting, please chill out.
<matthewcroughan> colemickens so I've uninstalled nixos by his guidance, what do :D
<matthewcroughan> `nix-channel --add https://nixos.org/channels/nixpkgs-unstable` is described here https://nixos.org/nix/manual/#sec-channels
<dxb[m]> lol i'm chill. just frustrated by your lack of reading when using an advanced distro that requires reading
<matthewcroughan> I *am* reading.
<matthewcroughan> Give me *Time* to read.
<matthewcroughan> I'm going to *ask questions* and read, at the same time.
<matthewcroughan> Does NixOS start you off with a ~/.nix-channel or do you start with no channels?
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<matthewcroughan> If so, why has `nix-channel --remove nixos` ruined my ability to rebuild?
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<matthewcroughan> If `nix-channel --remove nixos` is only effecting what is specified and stated in ~/.nix-channels then why can I no longer rebuild with stable? Where was stable stored prior to everything I did with the `nix-channel` command?
<matthewcroughan> When I installed nixos, I was not aware of what channels were, nor did I know ~/.nix-channels existed. Did it exist? Did I overwrite stable when I did `nix-channel --add`?
<ashkitten> matthewcroughan: it's also removing the nixos directory in /nix/var/nix/per-user/root/channels (path might be wrong, i'm going off of memory)
<matthewcroughan> Does `nix-channel --add` append to ~/.nix-channels? Does it remove? Was "stable" specified in this file prior to my modification?
<bqv> Channels are empty by default, you'll have to readd them and fetch again
<matthewcroughan> So, when I did `nix-channel --remove nixos` what happened?
<ashkitten> `~/.nix-channels` is just a text file that configures `nix-channel`
<matthewcroughan> I did this because I thought that I had to do that in order to go back to stable.
<matthewcroughan> Because I thought `nix-channel` would only effect the contents of ~/.nix-channels
<ashkitten> matthewcroughan: what made you think that?
<matthewcroughan> but now I cannot nix-rebuild switch from stable, since something has happened.
<matthewcroughan> ashkitten dxb[m]'s recommendation that I remove it using nix-channels :D
<ashkitten> yes, using the command
<matthewcroughan> I did!
<matthewcroughan> Using the command is what now makes it not possible for me to rebuild.
<ashkitten> and did you add add the default `nixos` channel back?
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<matthewcroughan> when I just commented out the text in the file, this had no effect.
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<ashkitten> matthewcroughan: you should do `nix-channel --add https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-20.03 nixos`
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<ashkitten> matthewcroughan: and `nix-channel --update`
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<ashkitten> matthewcroughan: i said nothing of the sort. the default nixos install has a channel called "nixos".
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<matthewcroughan> ashkitten sorry it was bqv that said that. >Channels are empty by default, you'll have to readd them and fetch again
<matthewcroughan> So when nixos was installed, there was a ~/.nix-channels file, and it had contents?
<ashkitten> matthewcroughan: the default NIX_PATH has `nixpkgs=/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos`
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<ashkitten> matthewcroughan: get your mind off of `~/.nix-channels`, it has nothing to do with `nixos-rebuild`. it only serves to configure `nix-channel`
<ashkitten> matthewcroughan: when nixos-rebuild runs, it looks for a system configuration at the nix search path `nixos-config`, or if it is missing, `/etc/nixos/configuration.nix`
<ashkitten> matthewcroughan: it looks for nixpkgs at the nix search path `nixpkgs` or a directory under the default search path
<ashkitten> (the default search path is `/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels`)
<matthewcroughan> nixos-config?
<ashkitten> matthewcroughan: nix-channel grabs a tarball from the url specified and drops it in `/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/$name/channels/$name`
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<ashkitten> matthewcroughan: you can set `nixos-config=/path/to/configuration.nix` in the NIX_PATH to have `nixos-rebuild` look somewhere besides `/etc/nixos/configuration.nix`
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<ashkitten> -I is the same as NIX_PATH
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<matthewcroughan> ashkitten So. By `nix-channel --remove nixos` I have done what exactly?
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<matthewcroughan> By doing `nix-channel --add https://nixos.org/channels/nixpkgs-unstable` this **replaces** the stable with unstable, correct?
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<matthewcroughan> Yknow, managing remotes.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #93274 → netdata: 1.23.0 -> 1.23.2 → https://git.io/JJG5p
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JJieg
<matthewcroughan> So, I hate to ask, but I just can't find it anywhere, is the stable one just nixpkgs-stable?
<ashkitten> nixos-20.03, currently
<ashkitten> also, if you want to use unstable you should probably use nixos-unstable not nixpkgs-unstable
<ashkitten> nixos-unstable has tests to make sure things don't break
<matthewcroughan> `sudo nix-channel --add https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-20.03 nixos` should fix me right up then, yeah?
<ashkitten> right
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam closed pull request #93112 → netdata: 1.23.0 -> 1.23.1 → https://git.io/JJ3H6
<matthewcroughan> ashkitten oh dear, do you think that's why my iris graphics was crashing?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthuszagh opened pull request #94765 → hyp2mat: init at 0.0.17 → https://git.io/JJier
<ashkitten> dunno
<ashkitten> well
<ashkitten> if it all built fine then probably not
<ashkitten> but i don't use iris graphics
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<matthewcroughan> ashkitten I can't really get i965 working either, it only ever wants to load i915
<ashkitten> can't help you with that, sorry
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<drakonis> 8 years old email
<ashkitten> that's from 2012, i would be surprised if things haven't changed significantly
<drakonis> it means they had stopped compiling mesa with that flag
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<drakonis> but again, its been 8 years since that email
<ashkitten> matthewcroughan: does this look like your issue? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/94444
<{^_^}> #94444 (by suhr, 4 days ago, open): `iris` mesa driver segfaults
<matthewcroughan> ashkitten ya, I've linked this a few times
<matthewcroughan> I don't understand the workaround
<matthewcroughan> it's as a result of following this https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Intel_Graphics
<matthewcroughan> I have done `nixos-rebuild switch -I nixpkgs=nixpkgs/` against the latest commit of nixpkgs it did not help.
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<ashkitten> you rebooted after doing that?
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<matthewcroughan> correct
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<{^_^}> #94532 (by vcunat, 3 days ago, merged): mesa.drivers: build with patchelf's master
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<matthewcroughan> ashkitten when did NixOS get *so* popular as to be provided with Hetzner and other providers? I am very curious.
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<ashkitten> dunno, it's quite useful to a lot of companies
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<matthewcroughan> NixOS is very long running though, so I need to know what happened to make it so immediately available
<ashkitten> i've been using it since 2017
<matthewcroughan> Sudden surge in popularity
<drakonis> i've known nixos since 2014 and have started getting my feet wet around 2015
<drakonis> its truly something
<matthewcroughan> How does it honestly compare to Yocto/OE? In my naive mind it seems to obsolete it in lots of ways.
<drakonis> it is very nice
<ashkitten> same way everything else gets popular these days - hacker news (/s)
<matthewcroughan> I'll take that.
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<matthewcroughan> My poor new thinkpad is screaming just cloning nixpkgs.git ;_;
<ashkitten> the awful orange site (no, not that one)
<matthewcroughan> ashkitten yes, it does have 0c34580ebca01e55e389cb71268550c58d8f919d when I cloned it
<matthewcroughan> time to do it again, this time rebooting for sure.
<matthewcroughan> `nixos-rebuild switch -I nixpkgs=nixpkgs/`
<drakonis> i'm getting owned by rsync lmao
<drakonis> cant sync the letsencrypt certs
<drakonis> before i can pave over my linode instance
<drakonis> also wow these packet prices are too salty for me
<drakonis> but the hardware is on point
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<matthewcroughan> ashkitten it has complete. Now I am rebooting. What should I look for on reboot?
<matthewcroughan> lsmod? Will this tell me anything about mesa?
<ashkitten> idk, the driver not crashing would be a start
<matthewcroughan> It did not work.
<matthewcroughan> I know since both X11 and Wayland crash, and systemd has a service to start lightdm on boot.
<ashkitten> dunno then. i don't use iris graphics
<matthewcroughan> What do you use?
<ashkitten> amd
<matthewcroughan> [ 17.915531] i915 0000:00:02.0: fb0: i915drmfb frame buffer device
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<matthewcroughan> colemickens you seem to have most to do with the docs and some PRs relating to iris, any ideas? Do you use Iris in your setup? What does your config look like?
<matthewcroughan> You wrote this right? https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Intel_Graphics
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-unstable-small advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/8d57f75f7a1 (from 4 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-unstable-small)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #94766 → ledger: fix build on darwin → https://git.io/JJie1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JJifE
<{^_^}> Channel nixpkgs-unstable advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/2d6cbbe4627 (from 2 days ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixpkgs-unstable)
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<drakonis> is nixos-lustrate an decent replacement for installing nixos on existing vps instances?
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<DigitalKiwi> drakonis: that's what nixos-infect uses i think
<mrosenbe_> does anyone know how to install xcode on darwin?
<DigitalKiwi> clever has a thing too that uses kexec
<drakonis> hmm
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #94768 → libcerf: 1.13 -> 2.0 → https://git.io/JJiJo
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<drakonis> wow ovh has a pretty good deal compared to vultr and linode
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<pjt_014[m]> drakonis: also see buyvm, they're good.
<drakonis> their cheapest vps still has better specs than vultr and linode
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @StephenWithPH opened pull request #94769 → pyenv: init at 1.2.20 → https://git.io/JJiUf
<{^_^}> [nix] @matthewbauer opened pull request #3902 → nix profile: Upgrade originalRef if exists on install → https://git.io/JJiUU
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<drakonis> oh nevermind it also has temporary credit gdi
<siraben> How can I make it so that programs running in a VirtualBox VM can't detect that they're running in a VM?
<siraben> Hardening seems to be enabled by default.
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<drakonis> nevermiiiiind those prices are crazy too
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<drakonis> nevermind no
<DigitalKiwi> drakonis: i like digital ocean but what are you looking for?
<drakonis> looking for a decent cheapish setup
<DigitalKiwi> how cheap
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<DigitalKiwi> and how decent
<drakonis> i'll just set nixos on linode, as it has 4 months of credit to go
<drakonis> lowest tier i guess
<DigitalKiwi> i've done nixos on the $5 digital ocean vps but it's not always ...fun. definitely need swap and nix-collect-garbage a lot because of 25GB space
<pjt_014[m]> siraben: search for 'detect if in vm' and note what is attempted. Some of the measures are easy, like ensuring your lspci output doesn't contain terms with 'virtual' in them.
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<DigitalKiwi> but you can add 10GB for $1...or 100GB for $10 block storage and move your root to that. or get a more expensive one too lol
<siraben> It's running Windows 7
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<pjt_014[m]> siraben: virtual machines have virtual devices. They will likely have metadata in them that hints at being a vm.
<matthewcroughan> How does the NixOS wiki do attribution? I want to add an article about ZFS on Root + Luks
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<DigitalKiwi> Standard / 2 GB / 2 vCPUs <-- this cost me $15GB a month has 60GB ssd and has worked fine
<matthewcroughan> DigitalKiwi A bit expensive, check hetzner out :D
<siraben> petersjt014: How would I configure the device names in VirtualBox?
<pjt_014[m]> pretty sure it's all open-licenced and authorship is based on edit history. That's the impression I got
<drakonis> hetzner is europe data centers only?
<DigitalKiwi> err $15 a month not $15GB
<matthewcroughan> drakonis yeah
<matthewcroughan> Linode might be more your bag otherwise.
<DigitalKiwi> there's a nixops for hetzner too
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<matthewcroughan> yup DigitalKiwi they offer it at install
<matthewcroughan> I can just use their interface entirely :D
<DigitalKiwi> i haven't priced them for a while and really only used them for dedicated
<matthewcroughan> their dedi is overpriced lol
<matthewcroughan> their VPS stuff is where it's at
<matthewcroughan> You can get really deals if you're lucky on the auctions though
<pjt_014[m]> siraben: It might be in the settings for that VM. If not then either you need to edit some stuff manually or virtualbox doesn't have that level control in which case you'd need to switch to qemu or something.
<siraben> petersjt014: Thanks, will investigate.
<pjt_014[m]> ^_^
<siraben> Is the VirtualBox hardening option in NixOS unrelated then?
<{^_^}> [nix] @matthewbauer opened pull request #3903 → Provide defaults when no args are given to some subcommands → https://git.io/JJiUE
<pjt_014[m]> since vm usage isn't a main use case, I'd think not
<pjt_014[m]> and remember to search 'detect if in vm' for more info.
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<Graypup_> just wondering since it makes copy pasting more annoying than it needs to be
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @lopsided98 closed pull request #94473 → nixos/wpa_supplicant: add configFile option → https://git.io/JJV45
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<jybs> Hi all. Is there a way to get a nix shell with all the tools needed to build a nix package
<jybs> So all the dev dependencies for postgresql_12?
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<realisation> it tries to download this nonexistent tarball even if I remove all build inputs from the shell.nix
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq opened pull request #94770 → runc: 1.0.0-rc91 -> 1.0.0-rc92 → https://git.io/JJikv
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<jackdk> jybs: `nix-shell '<nixpkgs>' -A postgresql_12`, perhaps?
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<realisation> is there anywhere I can find support for nix?
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<sphalerite> matthewbauer: Hetzner's dedicated servers, overpriced!?
<sphalerite> sorry wrong highlight
<Ke> realisation: nowhete
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<Ke> typing on mobile on shaky train...
<sphalerite> srhb: you around?
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<srhb> sphalerite: I am :)
<srhb> oh lol, scrollback.. sure
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<srhb> realrokka: As in commercial support?
<srhb> oops, wrong highlight, sorry
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @bbigras opened pull request #94771 → gnomeExtensions.timepp: unstable-2019-03-30 -> 3.32 → https://git.io/JJiLB
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<energizer> what is NIX_DATA_DIR?
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<energizer> it's referenced here https://matthewbauer.us/blog/static-nix.html but i dont see any docs about that variable
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @evils opened pull request #94772 → waybar: 0.9.2 -> 0.9.3 → https://git.io/JJitv
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<energizer> man nix-build says "Overrides the location of the Nix static data directory (default prefix/share)", so now...what's that?
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<energizer> $ nix-x86_64 run nixpkgs.zsh -f channel:release-20.03 --store "$PWD"/nix
<energizer> warning: unable to download 'https://nixos.org/channels/release-20.03/nixexprs.tar.xz': SSL peer certificate or SSH remote key was not OK (60); retrying in 259 ms
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<energizer> what's going on here
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<pjt_014[m]> energizer: Is the time on the system correct?
<energizer> pjt_014[m]: yes
<pjt_014[m]> okay that's my one solution dealt with :l
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<pjt_014[m]> but to be fair it's a hard one to spot sometimes
<energizer> do i even need to care about ssl here?
<pjt_014[m]> it's an http_s_ address, so yes
<energizer> i mean can i just set CURL_YOLO=1 or whatever
<pjt_014[m]> ..for a sec I thought that was a legit flag
<srhb> energizer: That's a weird URL though. Why release, not nixos?
<srhb> energizer: I wasn't even aware the release (untested) branches were served from there.
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<srhb> Do you have a release-20.03 channel set up? And if so, is that intentional?
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<henri> Does anyone know how long it usually takes for a commit on the release-20.03 branch to appear on the nixos-20.03 channel?
<s1341> hey all.
<srhb> henri: Usuallt the stable channels are very fast to update (within a day) -- but sometimes larger changes do go in.
<s1341> i'm trying to install pahole, but I get the following error:
<srhb> henri: fwiw it should update aaany moment, now -- only waiting for this build https://hydra.nixos.org/build/124948211
<henri> srhb: Thanks. Then something must be wrong with my channel setup because I still have postfix 3.4.14 and the update to 3.4.16 was committed 5 days ago.
<s1341> but according to nix-locate, libebl is provided by elfutils, and elfutils is included in the requirements for the pahole derivation: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/development/tools/misc/pahole/default.nix#L13
<s1341> so.... what's going wrong?:
<energizer> srhb: $ nix-x86_64 run nixpkgs.zsh -f channel:nixos-20.03 --store "$PWD"/nix
<energizer> warning: unable to download 'https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-20.03/nixexprs.tar.xz': SSL peer certificate or SSH remote key was not OK (60); retrying in 328 ms
<henri> srhb: I manually downloaded nixexprs.tar.xz and compared the revision and the current channel is 3 commits before the postfix update. Guess I'm too impatient :D
<energizer> am i doing this wrong?
<energizer> $ NIX_PATH="$PWD"/nixpkgs-20.03 nix-x86_64 run nixpkgs.zsh --store "$PWD"/nix
<energizer> error: attribute 'nixpkgs' in selection path 'nixpkgs.zsh' not found
<srhb> energizer: Can you add some v flags and hopefully get some more information on why the cert was deemed wrong? Maybe your ca certs are out of date.
<srhb> energizer: Yeah, you're pointing at nixpkgs now, so drop "nixpkgs."
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<energizer> $ NIX_PATH="$PWD"/nixpkgs-20.03 nix-x86_64 run zsh --store "$PWD"/nix
<energizer> error: attribute 'zsh' in selection path 'zsh' not found
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<energizer> -vvv doesnt do anything
<srhb> hm maybe run doesn't work as I thought it does.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @gnidorah opened pull request #94773 → Update most packages I maintain → https://git.io/JJiqE
<nicolas[m]1> Does "run" accept a flag such as "run -f '<nixpkgs>'" ?
<Graypup_> ^^ that is likely it
<Graypup_> iirc yes
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<Graypup_> yes it takes -f
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<Graypup_> energizer, NIX_PATH="$PWD"/nixpkgs-20.03 nix-x86_64 run -f '<nixpkgs>' zsh --store "$PWD"/nix
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<energizer> looks like that's supposed to be NIX_PATH=nixpkgs="$PWD"/nixpkgs-20.03 but otherwise ok
<nicolas[m]1> Actually it would be "run -f $PWD/nixpkgs-20.03"
<Graypup_> inattention on my part hehe
<energizer> $ NIX_PATH=nixpkgs="$PWD"/nixpkgs-20.03 nix-x86_64 run -f "$PWD/nixpkgs-20.03" zsh --store "$PWD"/nix
<energizer> warning: unable to download 'https://cache.nixos.org/nix-cache-info': SSL peer certificate or SSH remote key was not OK (60); retrying in 273 ms
<Graypup_> sounds like there's some kind of tls ca certificate issue going on?
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<energizer> i agree
<Graypup_> now, how that works with nix I also don't know
<srhb> There's a special variable to override nix' ca cert path iirc
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<Graypup_> NIX_SSL_CERT_FILE
<srhb> Graypup_: That's the one.
<energizer> what am i supposed to do with that variable?
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<srhb> energizer: You can try pointing it at a fresh cacert package
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<srhb> (or rather the ca-bundle.crt file)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @vcunat merged pull request #94587 → Fix nss on macOS → https://git.io/JJwwz
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<energizer> as in, /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt ?
<energizer> yes!
<srhb> energizer: Why your nix is pointing at something wrong I'm frankly not sure. Could be a damaged store path? Might want to verify at least.
<srhb> aaah
<srhb> Sorry, I missed that.
<Graypup_> yeah, nix is really awesome for just grabbing tools temporarily. I use that in my CI
<energizer> how long should i expect a reasonable system build-from-scratch to take?
<srhb> energizer: Depends on your core amount, by a lot.
<srhb> energizer: Last I did a minimal system on my laptop it was about half a day.
<energizer> that's quad core?
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<srhb> 12 threads/6 cores
<energizer> ok i can run it overnight
<energizer> out of curiosity, how long does it take given...arbitrary cores
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<srhb> I don't know exactly, but especially early in the build many cores seems to help a lot. Later on, not so much.
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<energizer> do you know how many is "many"? (this computer can scale flexibly)
<pjt_014[m]> for some of us? four.
<pjt_014[m]> take that as a lower end
<energizer> ok and how much ram for each?
<srhb> It's really difficult to answer that without knowing the system you're building.
<energizer> basically i want numpy
<srhb> I'd guess that's the low end.
<energizer> hmm i ought to check i'm not accidentally building chromium or something
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<energizer> uh oh
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #94775 → ldb: 2.1.4 -> 2.2.0 → https://git.io/JJiYT
<energizer> $ NIX_SSL_CERT_FILE=/etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt NIX_PATH=nixpkgs="$PWD"/nixpkgs-20.03 nix-x86_64 run -f "$PWD/nixpkgs-20.03" zsh --store "$PWD"/nix --keep-going --option sandbox false
<energizer> error: setting up a private mount namespace: Operation not permitted
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<energizer> "I think since Nix 2.3, we no longer require user namespaces" https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/2632#issuecomment-607098071
<energizer> so what's wrong then
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq merged pull request #94770 → runc: 1.0.0-rc91 -> 1.0.0-rc92 → https://git.io/JJikv
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq pushed to master « runc: 1.0.0-rc91 -> 1.0.0-rc92 »: https://git.io/JJiYq
<energizer> the fix proposed in that issue requires kernel 3.9 which is not an option
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<energizer> what is it even trying to do?
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<Graypup_> i am slightly (quite) annoyed? somehow my overlays are deleting other overlays??
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<Graypup_> does super.haskell.packages.${ghcVer}.override *replace* the entire haskell package set? or something?
<Graypup_> specifically I am seeing this happen with https://github.com/Infinisil/all-hies where regardless of where I put it in my nixpkgs overlay list, at the top or bottom, hie is missing from my haskell packages set
<srhb> Graypup_: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/25887 -- for context, overriing haskell is annoying
<{^_^}> #25887 (by ocharles, 3 years ago, closed): Overriding (Haskell) packages repeatedly is surprising and non-modular
<Graypup_> that is extremely surprising
<srhb> Yeah, it is.
<Graypup_> it is absolutely infuriating that there is not first party documentation of this stuff
<Graypup_> (yes I am a hypocrite for not writing it)
<srhb> :P
<Graypup_> I am Very Annoyed that I spend half my time reading nixpkgs source code
<energizer> i'm out of ideas on this nix installation, any last thought before i give up?
<srhb> Graypup_: I don't know what to tell you. It seems to me that it's necessary and always has been. It would be nice if it weren't the case, but it is.
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<Graypup_> srhb, when I program and have to read a lot of source code I get motivation to improve the tooling to make it easier to do, so it isn't all bad ;-p
<srhb> Graypup_: I'm glad to hear that at least :D
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<Graypup_> first thing that came out of my frustration was https://github.com/lf-/nix-doc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #94776 → leptonica: 1.79.0 -> 1.80.0 → https://git.io/JJiOT
<immae> Graypup_: as a general rule if you set "foo = <something>" in an overlay, then foo is replaced with that new value. In your case the whole super.haskell.packages attrsets will be replaced with { "${ghcVer}" = ... } so it will be almost empty (it’s the same everywhere)
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<Graypup_> immae, yeah, I know *that* wasn't happening, but the override composition was exactly what I was hitting
<immae> There is no composition (not sure it’s the right term) like in nixos modules for instance
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<Graypup_> this is how I fixed it
<srhb> overlays do compose. haskell overlays do not (unless you use extends, in which case you can't use override, or you have to compose it manually and never use extends)
<srhb> As iven above
<srhb> given*
<Graypup_> basically just adapted that link to my existing thingy that lets me write overlays in terms of haskellPackages
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<typetetris> Constant pita haskell overlays are for me.
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<Graypup_> also I have this error which I think might have regressed in my last commit: Use of uninitialized value $path in -e at /nix/store/g79flfya43a661qymgmsm4hhj4pgkily-builder.pl line 198.
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<{^_^}> Channel nixos-20.03 advanced to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/0c0fe6d85b9 (from 12 hours ago, history: https://channels.nix.gsc.io/nixos-20.03)
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<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @github-actions[bot] pushed commit from GitHub Actions to master « Update flake.lock and blogs.xml [ci skip] »: https://git.io/JJiOA
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #94454 → nixos/postgresql: fix several issues → https://git.io/JJVsO
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<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra merged pull request #3897 → error messages for issue 2238 → https://git.io/JJ6oi
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<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed to master « repl.cc: Check for HAVE_BOEHMGC »: https://git.io/JJiCX
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<Reventlov> Hi there. I have some server which is very constrained in memory. nix-env -i nano gets killed, for example.
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<Reventlov> (by constrained, I mean 1GB of ram, which should be okayish, in my opinion)
<kahiru> I think nix-env -iA nixos.nano could use a little bit less memory
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<kahiru> (if you're not on nixos, swap nixos for nixpkgs)
<Reventlov> indeed, it works
<Reventlov> I just have to replace nix-env -i by nix-env -iA in my mind, now, thanks
<immae> How come?
<immae> Is it the "search-match" part of nix-env that takes so much ram?
<kahiru> i think so
<kahiru> to be able to search-match it possibly has to evaluate more code from the definitions
<LouisDK> I'm about to include some optional templates for LibreOffice: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/94753 - but I'm in doubt on how to make them optional and if I need to do that in wrapper.nix or another file.
<kahiru> but that's just a wild guess
<{^_^}> #94753 (by LouisDK1, 13 hours ago, open): libreoffice: Templates for LibreOffice Impress
<immae> ok I see
<immae> (seems like your guess is good :p )
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danieldk merged pull request #94774 → kustomize: 3.8.0 -> 3.8.1 → https://git.io/JJiqD
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danieldk pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JJiW9
<dbe2> How does inputs in a nix flake convert to the 'pkgs' input in a nixosConfiguration? I suppose a nixosConfiguration need to apply overlays and stuff? I have the smallest flake.nix you can imagine, it's 12 lines: http://ix.io/2tp3 and the configuration.nix takes the usual { pkgs, ...}: input; what happends there in between?
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<dbe2> I'm trying to figure out how to best add an overlay to my nix flake and get it applied to the nixosConfiguration.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @danieldk merged pull request #94752 → zsh-nix-shell: (unstable-)2019-12-20 -> 0.1.0 → https://git.io/JJ6DF
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @primeos merged pull request #94565 → gammastep: init at 2.0.1 → https://git.io/JJwCJ
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli pushed 5 commits to staging: https://git.io/JJilz
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #94780 → libmbim: 1.24.0 -> 1.24.2 → https://git.io/JJi8x
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @DamienCassou opened pull request #94781 → cypress: 4.9.0 -> 4.12.1 → https://git.io/JJiBg
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<sephii> I'm trying to configure the postfix service, and I'm stuck on the SSL part. There are sslCACert, sslCert and sslKey options, which are supposed to be file paths, but I have no idea how I can get a certificate. Usually I just point to a snake oil certificate, but I couldn't find a way to create one. Should I use ACME? But then that means I should also install a web server?
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<adisbladis> sephii: The ACME module also supports DNS-01
<feffe[m]> hey, I just checked if unstable had the 5.8 kernelpackages yet on my arch machine through firefox (https://nixos.org/nixos/packages.html?channel=nixpkgs-unstable&query=linuxPackages_5_8) and saw that they were up, but when I went to check on my machine running nixos the same link produced no results. Don't think it's browser cache as I cleared them on both machines looking through the channel locally on my nixos-machine after
<feffe[m]> updating it also doesn't yield any results. Anyone know what might be causing this?
<feffe[m]> * hey, I just checked if unstable had the 5.8 kernelpackages yet on my arch machine through firefox (https://nixos.org/nixos/packages.html?channel=nixpkgs-unstable&query=linuxPackages_5_8) and saw that they were up, but when I went to check on my machine running nixos the same link produced no results. Don't think it's browser cache as I cleared them on both machines and looking through the channel locally on my
<feffe[m]> nixos-machine after updating it also doesn't yield any results. Anyone know what might be causing this?
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<adisbladis> feffe[m]: 5.8 was added but was reverted because of some regression in systemd.
<feffe[m]> ah, I suppose it had to do with my bad timing then :p
<adisbladis> And systemd has to go through the staging nixpkgs branch so it takes a bit longer to reach the unstable channel
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ekleog merged pull request #93678 → arcanist: 20200127 -> 20200711 → https://git.io/JJlwN
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ekleog pushed commit from @nagisa to master « arcanist: 20200127 -> 20200711 (#93678) »: https://git.io/JJi0K
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<sephii> adisbladis: but then I need to run my own DNS server right?
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<manveru> sephii: there are a ton of options for the dns-01 challenge... depending on your dns provider
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<s1341> anyone available to help me figure out this pahole thing?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @worldofpeace closed pull request #94760 → [19.09] wire-desktop: linux 3.18.2925 -> 3.19.2928, mac 3.18.3728 -> 3.19.3799 → https://git.io/JJ6Fs
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<s1341> the derivation for pahole had elfutils in its buildInputs, but fails to find libebl.so
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #94784 → libmatroska: 1.6.0 -> 1.6.1 → https://git.io/JJiEX
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq opened pull request #94785 → minikube: 1.12.1 -> 1.12.2 → https://git.io/JJiED
<srhb> s1341: I think that's a thing of the past, try upgrading it to 1.17 :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam merged pull request #94764 → grpc: 1.29.0 -> 1.31.0 → https://git.io/JJ6hf
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @marsam pushed 3 commits to master: https://git.io/JJiES
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<s1341> srhb thanks! so now to bump the pkg version.
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<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra merged pull request #3856 → Make `Buildable` a `std::variant` → https://git.io/JJ82Z
<{^_^}> [nix] @edolstra pushed 4 commits to master: https://git.io/JJiue
<srhb> s1341: Yeah, you should be able to just alter version an the src attr. Should make for an easy PR to nixpkgs :)
<s1341> srhb: on it.
<srhb> s1341++
<{^_^}> s1341's karma got increased to 1, that's Numberwang!
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @s1341 opened pull request #94786 → pahole: 1.16 -> 1.17 → https://git.io/JJiu9
<s1341> there you go @ srhb
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<srhb> s1341: Nice, thanks! :)
<thblt> How can I find the definition of a Nix function? I'm looking for a fetchGit, but a general solution be appreciated :)
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<typetetris> Does someone know how it is stored in the file system if you change capabilities with setcap for a file?
<srhb> thblt: That is in fact a builtin, so it's somewhere in the Nix source tree.
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<thblt> srhb: thanks.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @NeQuissimus pushed to master « linux/hardened/patches/5.6: remove »: https://git.io/JJizG
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<tsruser> ,channels
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #94787 → libqmi: 1.26.0 -> 1.26.2 → https://git.io/JJizd
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<sephii> wow, dns-01 is magic, it more or less just worked. Thanks adisbladis & manveru
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<Mic92> I should also swithc to that since I got my kresd running
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<dminuoso> sephii: Its not magic. It's just a very simple mechanism to prove ownership. :)
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<dminuoso> Idea being, if you control the DNS over foo.bar, then you control what foo.bar points at anyway. So if proof for the former is established, the latter can be assumed.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @flokli merged pull request #94746 → [20.03] Firefox 79 → https://git.io/JJ6Kt
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<bqv> I need a function that lists all files in a directory recursively
<bqv> I have made one before, the reason I mention it is cause I feel like it should be in a lib somewhere
<bqv> Maybe I'll just add it to mine, though
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<eyJhb> The NIxOS changelogs are long, regarding backwards incompatability
<eyJhb> Trying to upgrade from 19.03 to 20.03
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<infinisil> eyJhb: I wish we had something like home-managers news
<eyJhb> Is that better?
<infinisil> Which can inform you about changes that were made, but they only trigger if you enabled the modules they are relevant to
<eyJhb> AHhh
<eyJhb> Yeah , that would be cool
<eyJhb> I get a new project for you then infinisil
<eyJhb> got*
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<infinisil> eyJhb: What is it? :o
<eyJhb> Made that for NixOS ? :D
<eyJhb> Make*
<eyJhb> Wth is wrong with me
<infinisil> Ahh yes
<infinisil> Yeah that would be nice
<eyJhb> Seems like it could simply be copied over?
<eyJhb> And used in NixOS?
<infinisil> It would have to be integrated into the module system though, such that e.g. if you use home-manager as a submodule, you also get its news entries
<eyJhb> True
<eyJhb> I am thinking of updating my router and VPSs to 20.03... Should I?
<infinisil> Yes
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<infinisil> security updates
<eyJhb> I can't even remember the hostname of my ZNC
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<eyJhb> As far as I know, the only thing is really the DHCP that sucks
<eyJhb> Lets see if I get back on ZNC now..
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<eyJhb> Also, infinisil. If I have a .json file, and I read it into Nix. Can I then super/self those items I have just read in?
<bqv> infinisil: whats the easiest way to flatten an attrset?
<eyJhb> ^ Combo
<infinisil> eyJhb: I guess you already asked this before, but no you can't
<bqv> C-c-c-combo breaker
<infinisil> self/super come from lib.makeExtensible and co, they aren't an inherent nix feature
<eyJhb> infinisil: Yeah, that is what I remember, but I get a otherwise answer yesterday :\
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<eyJhb> So the best way, is still to merge it together, or make it a nix file?
<infinisil> If you just want to change some attributes in a set, lib.recursiveUpdate is decent for that
<infinisil> bqv: Flatten how
<infinisil> Gimme a spec
<bqv> Nested attrsets to toplevel
<bqv> { a = { b = 1; }; c = 2; } to something like { "a/b" = 1; c = 2; }
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<infinisil> Hm
<bqv> I realise this is something I need to solve generally, because I just have lots of shitty partial solutions everywhere
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<infinisil> Probably a combination of lib.recursiveMapAttrs and lib.collect
<infinisil> mapAttrsRecursive*
<infinisil> But that's kinda nasty still
<infinisil> I think we need a generic fold for sets
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<bqv> That would help
<abathur> is there a cleaner way to repeat a ~normal build process for benchmarking than using --no-out-link and GCing between runs?
<bqv> Collect is a good call, somehow I've seen but never used it
<bqv> Ty
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<bqv> abathur: I'm interested about this too. I almost want to be able to fork my nix store
<bqv> Maybe doable with snapshots
<infinisil> abathur: nix-build --check?
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<abathur> I don't see --check in the help for 2.3.4; not sure? :)
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<infinisil> abathur: It's a bit hidden: "All options not listed here are passed to nix-store --realise"
<infinisil> So `man nix-store` documents --check
<abathur> ah--right
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<bqv> Actually, could do it with tmpfs, overlayfs, and a mount namespace, if you can disconnect the nix-daemon
<bqv> How does the daemon communicate
<abathur> well, using darwin in this case anyways
<clever> bqv: /nix/var/nix/daemon-socket/socket
<eyJhb> You can specify the store path with a envvar, can't you?
<eyJhb> That would result in new builds each time
<bqv> Perfect! I can delete that
<infinisil> That sounds like a bad idea
<clever> bqv: if nix cant write to something under /nix/, it will try to use the unix socket
<eyJhb> infinisil: how come?
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<bqv> infinisil: inside the overlayed mount namespace
<bqv> clever: gotcha
<infinisil> eyJhb: I was saying that to bqv's idea
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<infinisil> Changing the store path sounds like a good idea if you want to test bootstrapping from an empty store
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<infinisil> (which you couldn't do easily with --check)
<infinisil> bqv: I think it's a bad idea to delete the socket because it breaks Nix for every other process/user that might want to use it. It's just not made for this
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<bqv> infinisil: what happens when the nix-daemon isn't active?
<bqv> Again, delete in only inside the mount namespace
<infinisil> I believe on NixOS you just can't use Nix then, unless you're root
<bqv> So only stuff in the mount namespace would be affected
<bqv> Yeah, thats fine then
<infinisil> Why not just use --check?
<infinisil> Or a separate store?
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<bqv> I'm solving a different issue than abathur's
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<bqv> Essentially allows me to make a properly ephemeral nix-shell, without having to later gc the whole store
<infinisil> Yeah a separate store sounds perfect for this. You should be able to configure the other store as a substituter
<infinisil> (I think)
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<bqv> What about stuff being hardcoded to /nix
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<bqv> I lose all caches that way
<bqv> My way, it's transparent, so caches remain
<infinisil> I believe Nix can use linux user namespaces for separate stores
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<bqv> So basically, my idea :p
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<infinisil> Well, somewhat I guess, but it's supported builtin
<bqv> Interesting. Are there docs for that?
<infinisil> I haven't done anything with this though, I just remember seeing something like that
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<numkem> I'm trying to build my laptop's configuration through hydra and I ran into a "unsupported system type" error. Is there a way to know if you are running inside hydra?
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<infinisil> bqv: I think it might be the (yet-undocumented) --store flag for `nix` commands (The release notes mention it https://nixos.org/nix/manual/) and `--substituters` (also mentioned in release notes)
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<bqv> Ah ok, will try
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<bqv> infinisil: closest thing I can see going by the source, is chroot, which would work, but be way less convenient
<infinisil> Doesn't it do that for you?
<infinisil> Well, maybe not chroot
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<abathur> <3 infinisil thanks for the suggestion; wrote a naive script to do a bunch of --check runs that'll probably churn all day if it doesn't break; I manually tested one and it failed with a "some outputs of '' are not valid, so checking is not possible" error (these are CI builds for a few different projects, so they're all probably weird in different ways, so it might surprise me and finish in a few
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<asheshambasta> If one has a cabal project "foo" with multiple sublibs called "foo-core", "foo-bar" etc. (as in the .cabal file); how does one use sublibs as dependencies in another project?
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<infinisil> abathur: Nice :D
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<asheshambasta> currently; in foo I'm defining an overlay that adds foo-core, foo-bar to the haskellPackages; which I'm using in my target project.
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<asheshambasta> (adding with callCabal2nix "foo-core" ./. etc.)
<asheshambasta> But it seems like these packages are not available at the target
<clever> asheshambasta: can you pastebin the overlay?
<evanjs> Anybody else that uses naersk encountering https://github.com/nmattia/naersk/issues/109?
<{^_^}> nmattia/naersk#109 (by energizah, 7 weeks ago, open): No rev specified
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<evanjs> Trying to package up some stuff that uses a private git repo and running into both that and maybe https://github.com/nmattia/naersk/issues/110 (though I _am_ using nixUnstable and that should allow me to fetch submodules)
<{^_^}> nmattia/naersk#110 (by Hoverbear, 6 weeks ago, open): Git submodules not being initialized?
<asheshambasta> clever: https://pastebin.com/B6WGPS0r ( a little more detailed than the previous, but you get the idea)
<clever> asheshambasta: try to always use hself for callCabal2nix, does that help?
<asheshambasta> trying that now
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<asheshambasta> clever: cabal now reports a "conflict-set"
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<asheshambasta> I guess that is progress
<clever> weird
<asheshambasta> I also don't understand cabal's error messages most of the times; eg. what backjumping means; etc.
<asheshambasta> clever: actually no; it still reports that it cannot find transmission etc.
<zalaare> can someone tell me why I get "not of type `list of packages`"? I've been trying to write this zabbix-agent module and I can't seem to figure it out. --- https://pastebin.com/MXt7mFe9
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<asheshambasta> clever: replacing with hself also doesn't help. I also wouldn't expect it to since as per how overlays are supposed to work; given a dependency's overlay has been applied to the LHS of the overlays list; that should suffice.
<asheshambasta> superh is the state of packages with the previous overlays applied afaik.
<asheshambasta> not sure if cabal has a special syntax for sublib dependencies too
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<evanjs> Now I need to figure out how to properly depend on my nix/rust buildInputs
<evanjs> They seem to be ignored entirely right now, which is causing the build to fail :/
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<evanjs> alright so I am trying this approach to splice in my nixified deps with naersk https://github.com/leroycep/game-of-life/blob/b21934b30536029bcea93a68633dbc46bdc72634/nix/cargo-c.nix
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<evanjs> but it is not bothering with any of the phases in the src attribute here... any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?
<evanjs> To clarify, I have some crates that I have already nixified, added the proper buildInputs, etc, and need to depend on those in a rust project that depends on some of said crates
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<evanjs> I am _assuming_ that the linked expression evaluates src _before_ passing it to naersk.buildPackage, in which case I am trying to run the necessary patches to tell the rust project to use _my_ deps, and not try to fetch them from git, which will fail...
<evanjs> note that I am assuming I cannot just refer to a patchPhase for naersk or etc
<evanjs> **packages being built by naersk
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<colemickens> <matthewcroughan "colemickens you seem to have mos"> AFAIK, Iris is now the default for newer intel chipsets and that Mesa version is in nixos-unstable. aka, I'm not doing anything special and I'm on iris.
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<colemickens> matthewcroughan: I will say that I think some vaapi stuff is buggy on it. I've noticed Nightly struggles sometime (green flashes) and I've had to use LIBVA_DRIVER_NAME="i965" (or "gibberish") to avoid iris/vaapi interactions in mpv.
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<matthewcroughan> colemickens So don't use Iris for now, because it's buggy?
<colemickens> I don't know. I haven't really confirmed any of this super firmly, or I'd file some bugs on nixpkgs just to keep track.
<colemickens> It's the default in Mesa though, I assume at this point it's expected to be somewhat roughly stable-ish?
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<colemickens> I know we just recently had a minor version bump, there might be another out, etc.
<colemickens> but if you want to not use it, google for LIBVA_DRIVER_NAME I think to see about forcing not-iris
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<pikajude> not sure if it's just me, but the nixos cache for darwin seems totally barren
<pikajude> my nix-index is fetching 3.7k paths out of 55k
<pikajude> what's up with that
<srhb> pikajude: I've noticed something similar on Linux, and I think the problem is in nix-index rather than the cache being empty.
<srhb> (or, some incompatibility between them)
<pikajude> i see
<srhb> Haven't had time to dig in yet.
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #94807 → nfdump: 1.6.20 -> 1.6.21 → https://git.io/JJi5o
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq opened pull request #94808 → go_1_13: 1.13.14 -> 1.13.15 → https://git.io/JJi5i
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @zowoq opened pull request #94809 → go: 1.14.6 -> 1.14.7 → https://git.io/JJi5P
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<bqv> infinisil: very close!
<bqv> $ nixshell 'nixpkgs#execline' 'nixpkgs#fuse-overlayfs' -c unshare -rm foreground mount -t tmpfs -o size=1G nixtemp /mnt "" foreground mkdir /mnt/work "" foreground mkdir /mnt/upper "" foreground mount --bind /var/empty /nix/var/nix/daemon-socket "" foreground fuse-overlayfs -o lowerdir=/nix,upperdir=/mnt/upper,workdir=/mnt/work,rw /nix "" bash
<bqv> With the missing space, of course
<lassulus> is there any way to locally set a substituters priority?
<bqv> Had to use fuse instead cause unprivileged
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb merged pull request #94400 → obs-wlrobs: 20200111 -> 20200622 → https://git.io/JJaDc
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JJidk
<bqv> The issue now is that permissions can't be set (?!)
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @elkowar opened pull request #94810 → pipr: init at 0.0.12 → https://git.io/JJidn
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<energizer> NIX_SSL_CERT_FILE=/etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt NIX_PATH=nixpkgs="$PWD"/nixpkgs-20.03 nix-x86_64 run -f "$PWD/nixpkgs-20.03" zsh --store "$PWD"/nix/store --keep-going --option sandbox false
<energizer> error: setting up a private mount namespace: Operation not permitted
<energizer> why is this happening?
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<energizer> using static nix. this footnote links to an issue...but it's resolved. https://matthewbauer.us/blog/static-nix.html#fn.1
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ldesgoui opened pull request #94811 → discord: 0.0.10 -> 0.0.11 → https://git.io/JJiFk
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<asbachb> Isn't there any bsdtar package?
<srhb> ,locate bin bsdtar
<{^_^}> Found in packages: libarchive
<asbachb> thanks
<chipb> energizer: I'd be suspicious that perhaps the nix command isn't propagating the sandbox=false to any nix-build process it ends up spawning.
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<energizer> chipb: what is the solution?
<chipb> well, to be clear, I don't know that this is the problem, so I can't prescribe a solution per se.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #94811 → discord: 0.0.10 -> 0.0.11 → https://git.io/JJiFk
<srhb> That sounds likely, and with a very old version of nix it won't warn that it's being ignored due to you being not a trusted user. Either become a trusted user or set it globally, I suppose, in nix.conf
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed commit from @ldesgoui to master « discord: 0.0.10 -> 0.0.11 »: https://git.io/JJiF2
<chipb> you could try putting the sandbox = false into your nix.conf?
<energizer> i dont have admin, can i still do that?
<chipb> ~/.config/nix/nix.conf
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ldesgoui opened pull request #94812 → discord-canary: 0.0.105 -> 0.0.106 → https://git.io/JJiFa
<energizer> that file contains `sandbox = false`
<energizer> already
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<energizer> next up, i tried https://github.com/jefdaj/nix-no-root/blob/master/nix-no-root.sh but got https://bpa.st/MLWQ and setting NIX_VERSION=2.3.7 doesn't help
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @matthuszagh opened pull request #94815 → gl2ps: make cmake a native build input → https://git.io/JJibv
<energizer> er i mighta messed that up
<{^_^}> [nixos-homepage] @github-actions[bot] pushed commit from GitHub Actions to master « Update flake.lock and blogs.xml [ci skip] »: https://git.io/JJibT
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<exarkun> redirecting a usb device to a qemu/kvm vm in virt-manager fails because "GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: Action org.spice-space.lowlevelusbaccess is not registered"
<colemickens> If anyone has hydra setup with post-build actions to upload to cachix, I'd be curious to see how that's wired up.
<exarkun> does nixos have policykit management in it or do I have to start hand-writing writing config files?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ldesgoui closed pull request #94813 → discord-ptb: 0.0.20 -> 0.0.21 → https://git.io/JJiF1
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @ldesgoui closed pull request #94812 → discord-canary: 0.0.105 -> 0.0.106 → https://git.io/JJiFa
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<joesventek> Is there an easy way to make lightdm just start my ~/.xsession (or ~/.xinitrc)? Something like setting services.xserver.displayManager.defaultSession to some magic value?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @r-ryantm opened pull request #94816 → kdeApplications.okteta: 0.26.3 -> 0.26.4 → https://git.io/JJibD
<domenkozar[m]> "colemickens" (https://matrix.to/#/@colemickens:matrix.org) https://docs.cachix.org/continuous-integration-setup/hydra.html
<colemickens> oh well that's embarrassing. and easy. thanks domenkozar :)
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer opened pull request #94817 → Backport discord → https://git.io/JJiNE
<energizer> what's this about? src/nix/repl.cc:35:10: fatal error: gc/gc_cpp.h: No such file or directory 35 | #include <gc/gc_cpp.h>
<exarkun> spice-client-glib-usb-acl-helper must be setuid root to work. so, it doesn't (because nix store). any suggestions?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JJiAn
<Thra11> `nix-shell -p fontforge --run fontforge` just drops me into a python session. That's not right is it? (I thought fontforge was a GUI application?)
<srhb> Thra11: I think that'd be fontforge-gtk
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<Thra11> srhb: Ah. That explains it. Still weird to have a dedicated executable that just runs python though.
<srhb> Thra11: That does sound a bit odd.
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #94817 → Backport discord → https://git.io/JJiNE
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed 3 commits to release-20.03: https://git.io/JJixt
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb merged pull request #94463 → sfrotz: init at 2.52 → https://git.io/JJVCI
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @srhb pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JJix3
<Thra11> Based on what ldd says, I think it might be an executable with an embedded python interpreter. So I guess if you know what you're doing you can call fontforge functions and it will do font stuff.
<Thra11> Don't know why it isn't just a normal python library though.
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<Thra11> Maybe it's more portable to do it that way
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<dminuoso> What package do I need to specify to get linux kernel headers available?
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<clever> dminuoso: what do you need the headers for?
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<dminuoso> clever: I want to make them available to hsc2hs, invoked from cabal, invoked from nix-shell
<dminuoso> So I can include them in my hsc file
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer merged pull request #85639 → doona: init at unstable-2019-03-08 → https://git.io/JfTzn
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @jonringer pushed commit from @Pamplemousse to master « doona: init at unstable-2019-03-08 »: https://git.io/JJipf
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus merged pull request #94338 → bitcoin-abc: 0.21.10 -> 0.21.12 → https://git.io/JJaIM
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Lassulus pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JJipJ
<julianobs> I'm trying to get microlens working on GHC 8.10.3 on nixpkgs 20.03. It's failing bc "Encountered missing or private dependencies: base >=4.8 && <4.13". I tried to jailbreak but it didn't work. I don't know much nix, but I have a minimal reproducible shell.nix here https://gist.github.com/omnibs/9bf1e6d20615e84bff84d49f13241f97
<julianobs> GHC 8.10.1*
<clever> dminuoso: linuxPackages.kernel.dev maybe, but what is haskell going to then do with the headers?
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @max-wittig opened pull request #94818 → gitlab-runner: 13.2.0 -> 13.2.2 → https://git.io/JJipq
<clever> julianobs: can you also add the full error message to the gist?
<julianobs> i can!
<dminuoso> clever: Oh I just want to generate structs to use with ioctl
<dminuoso> And some suppording peek/poke ode
<julianobs> @clever: added as a comment
<clever> dminuoso: ah
<clever> dminuoso: can you also add the microlens.cabal file? youll find it in /nix/store/ff8calfbfzm5i2pinviwhgfrwx9svd7m-microlens-0.4.10.tar.gz
<clever> julianobs: oops, ^
<julianobs> sure!
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<julianobs> @clever: added!
<julianobs> ohh it's a conditional dependency
<clever> julianobs: yep, i see the problem, the base version constraints are inside an if statement
<clever> julianobs: doJailBreak cant recurse into if statements
<julianobs> how do we normally get around this sorta situation?
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<julianobs> can we overridecabal and change the deps?
<clever> julianobs: base is one of the boot packages, its version cant be changed easily
<clever> julianobs: you need to pick a ghc that has the right base by default, or override the src to change the cabal file
<clever> julianobs: patchPhase might work, to just sed the cabal file directly
<julianobs> coool
<julianobs> gonna try that, thanks!
<energizer> PROOT_NO_SECCOMP=1 proot_5.1.1_x86_64_rc2 -b "$PWD"/nix:/nix bash -c 'curl -L https://nixos.org/nix/install | sh' -> /nix/store/4vz8sh9ngx34ivi0bw5hlycxdhvy5hvz-nix-2.3.7/bin/nix-store: error while loading shared libraries: libidn.so.11: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. /tmp/nix-binary-tarball-unpack.I4QOVPuCZW/unpack/nix-2.3.7-x86_64-linux/install: unable to register valid paths
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<energizer> how to fix this?
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @romildo opened pull request #94819 → blueberry: init at 1.3.9 → https://git.io/JJihJ
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<julianobs> @clever: I patched it, but the error remains. I the error doesn't make a lot of sense too now that I think of it. I shouldn't have to jailbreak or patch. The version constraints of both sides of the if ask for a version of base that's satisfied by 8.10.1 (4.14.0.0).
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 merged pull request #89416 → nixos/autoUpgrade: add flake support → https://git.io/JfPDh
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 2 commits to master: https://git.io/JJiha
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<arianvp> I got some weird heisenbug inside nix build environment
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<thblt> I have a weird issue with fetchGit, which complains that my REF isn't a valid tree-ish object. I *think* this has to do with it not being on master. Anything I can do about that? Relevant config bit is here https://paste.thb.lt/1596746872.nix.html
<thblt>
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<arianvp> if I run this derivation the sfdisk command fails with exit code 1
<arianvp> (and no error messages printed)
<arianvp> if I copy those exact commands and execute them myself (or in nix-shell) the build succeeds
<arianvp> :/
<arianvp> it only fails inside the derivation
<energizer> i think i almost have a working nix but not quite. i can install stuff, but everything can't find GLIBC https://bpa.st/ZVEQ
<arianvp> increasing the "reserved" parameter to 8192 inside the nix-build makes it succeed
<arianvp> anyone any idea wtf is going on here?
<arianvp> thblt: known bug!
<arianvp> fetchGit will by default expect refs to be on the master rev
<arianvp> if it's not reachable on rev=master, it will fail
<arianvp> try to provide rev = master next to ref
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<arianvp> or... whatever branch that rev is on
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<thblt> arianvp: thanks, it works! (but it's a bit weird it should, since references are mutable-ish)
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<thblt> Does that mean fetchGit does a full clone? This looks… suboptimal (at best)
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<arianvp> it does
<arianvp> I think
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<julianobs> does anyone know why microlens fails here? ghc8101 should have base 4.14.0.0 which is within microlens' constraints for base https://gist.github.com/omnibs/9bf1e6d20615e84bff84d49f13241f97
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<julianobs> (shell.nix inside ^)
<thblt> That's funny, I spent a moment this afternoon to find a solution to that very problem (downloading exactly one tree from git). But I won't have the time to patch fetchGit, I don't know nix internals well enough.
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<colemickens> There's not a "systemd.user.packages" like there is "systemd.packages" ?
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<arianvp> colemickens: just use systemd.packages
<arianvp> the files should be in $out/systemd/user instead ouf $out/systemd/system
<arianvp> ;)
<energizer> yaaaaaassssssss working!
<arianvp> for the included pacakge
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<arianvp> Can anybody reproduce this and have any idea why this is failing to build?: https://gist.github.com/arianvp/c2067c702ed41a045bfb7c8024690de1
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<colemickens> arianvp: I don't love the answer, but thank you for telling me :)
<colemickens> I guess in my case they must already be. Maybe there's no point in trying to copy these things into home-manager since they're sort of tied to pipewire which I don't want to try to run via h-m.
<dminuoso> clever: Seems thats necessary. linuxHeaders seems to be missing the bits I need. :(
<dminuoso> Sad panda
<dminuoso> It's a bit frustrating, since this is sort of a public interface.
<clever> dminuoso: which header file do you need?
<dminuoso> include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
<clever> ,locate include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
<{^_^}> Found in packages: linux.dev, linux-libre.dev, linux_mptcp.dev, linux_testing.dev, linux_mptcp_94.dev, linuxPackages_4_4.kernel.dev, linuxPackages_4_9.kernel.dev, linuxPackages_5_5.kernel.dev, linuxPackages_4_14.kernel.dev, linuxPackages_4_19.kernel.dev, linuxPackages_hardened.kernel.dev, linuxPackages_xen_dom0.kernel.dev, linuxPackages_latest-libre.kernel.dev, linuxPackages_latest_xen_dom0.kernel.dev, and 3 more
<clever> linuxHeaders.out 54,478 r /nix/store/ffr9zi9sdh1gw5gzmg5rnkkv9bkyz0nm-linux-headers-4.4.10/include/linux/ethtool.h
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<clever> linux.dev 68,911 x /nix/store/rrn7f5zmxv16wj5vbi9696f1apfj96lp-linux-4.9.23-dev/lib/modules/4.9.23/source/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
<clever> dminuoso: the .dev of linux itself, has it in source, not include, so the stdenv wont find it automatically
<dminuoso> yeah thats fine
<clever> dminuoso: but linuxHeaders has it in include, under <linux/ethtool.h>
<dminuoso> clever: it does not
<dminuoso> or.. mm
<dminuoso> does that include it?
<clever> run nix-build on the attr, and look with ls
<dminuoso> No, that's a different header
<dminuoso> linux did a large header split a while ago
<arianvp> colemickens: why dont you love it?
<arianvp> this is how systemd works. there's /etc/systemd/system and /etc/systemd/user
<arianvp> (and of course $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/systemd but NixOS has no business putting files there. It can only declaritvely do /etc
<clever> [root@amd-nixos:~]# nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A linux.dev
<arianvp> what would you expect systemd.user.packages to do; exactly?
<clever> [root@amd-nixos:~]# ls -ltrh result-dev/lib/modules/5.4.46/source/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
<clever> dminuoso: is that the file you wanted?
<dminuoso> clever: ohh, nevermind! it's all good. :)
<dminuoso> linuxHeaders is enough for my needs
<infinisil> ,systemd-packages = Derivations can install *.service files into $out/lib/systemd/system or $out/lib/systemd/user. On NixOS, such services can be enabled by adding the derivation to the `systemd.packages` option. This also works for all other unit types, not just services.
<{^_^}> systemd-packages defined
<dminuoso> linux/ethtool.h imports that other header :)
<dminuoso> Thank you!
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<infinisil> arianvp: colemickens: Added above command for quick answers. I think it's $out/lib/systemd/{system,user} though, right?
<dminuoso> Also note that Im not actually building with nix, so Ill have to do a shell hook setting CPATH accordingly
<dminuoso> But I can live with that.
<infinisil> (had to look it up)
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<infinisil> ,systemd-packages = Derivations can install system or user *.service files into $out/lib/systemd/system or $out/lib/systemd/user respectively. On NixOS, such services can be enabled by adding the derivation to the `systemd.packages` option. This also works for all other unit types, not just services.
<{^_^}> systemd-packages redefined, was defined as Derivations can install *.service files into $out/lib/systemd/system or $out/lib/systemd/user. On NixOS, such services can be enabled by adding the derivation to the `systemd.packages` option. This also works for all other unit types, not just services.
<arianvp> infinisil: yes $lib; sorry
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @mweinelt opened pull request #94821 → factorio: add .desktop file → https://git.io/JJijS
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<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ekleog merged pull request #89117 → Fritzing: Use wrapQtAppsHook → https://git.io/Jfouj
<{^_^}> [nixpkgs] @Ekleog pushed commit from @reardencode to master « fritzing: use Qt's mkDerivation (#89117) »: https://git.io/JJijA
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<energizer> what's the nix 2.0 cli equivalent of `nix-shell '<home-manager>' -A install`?
<julianobs> is there a way to pass in an older version of a dependency to satisfy a constrain on haskell package, but not include that dependency in the haskellPackages? I was thinking if I could overrideCabal and change libraryHaskellDepends, removing the wrong dep from the list and adding the right one
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<eyJhb> tad
<bqv> energizer: i never liked that concept anyway... (no idea)
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<{^_^}> hydra redefined, was defined as https://hydra.nixos.org/ https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Hydra
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