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<JasonGrossman>
,tofu
<{^_^}>
To get a sha256 hash of a new source, you can use the Trust On First Use model: use probably-wrong hash (for example: 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000) then replace it with the correct hash Nix expected.
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<mjrosenb>
so, I guess I should have checked on this earlier-- are the packages available for install different on different platforms? e.g. linux vs OSX?
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<teto1>
there is this python module that tries to dlopen libstdc++.so.6 but can't find it. What's the best fix ? add the libstdc++ path to LD_LIBRARY_PATH ?
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<iqubic>
How long will "nix search -u" take the first time it is run?
<iqubic>
Not long at all.
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<elvishjerricco>
mjrosenb: What packages?
<maurer>
mjrosenb: Yes. There's the meta.platforms attribute on packages, indicating what they will work on
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<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @vbgl opened pull request #41164 → ocamlPackages.opam-file-format: init at 2.0.0-rc2 → https://git.io/vhmik
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<Guest95886>
Hello folks! So I starded a NixOS 17.09 ec2 instance and then ssh:ed onto it as root. Trying `emacs /etc/nixos/configuration.nix` even with sudo only gets me read-only privileges. What gives?
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<elvishjerricco>
Guest95886: You sure that's not just emacs's fault? It often opens root-owned files in read-only mode even if the file is writable.
<Guest95886>
Oh my. Tried opening it in nano and it worked. I was unaware of that flaw, thanks
<mjrosenb>
I suspect it is a safety feature, not a flaw.
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<JasonGrossman>
Better in what way please? (It's certainly interesting anyway.)
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<MichaelRaskin>
Basic sanity. First, sockets support connections and interleaving stumpish calls are just… fun
<JasonGrossman>
Oh, I see. Excellent. yes.
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<MichaelRaskin>
Second, just because something is allowed access to this X instance doesn't mean it should have arbitrary code execution as your user
<MichaelRaskin>
That depends on your long-term goals w.r.t. security model, of course.
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<JasonGrossman>
Right, and also whether I trust my firewall etc.
<JasonGrossman>
Great to know about both of those, and I'll try them both.
<JasonGrossman>
MichaelRaskin++
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<JasonGrossman>
5!
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<tfc[m]>
hi there, in some nix expressions i have seen statements like `inherit (a) b;`. what does it mean to have vars in parentheses? the nix expression language wiki doesn't tell me about it (https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Nix_Expression_Language)
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<tfc[m]>
oh the actual manual tells about it. sry
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[nixpkgs] @aszlig opened pull request #41165 → Add video recording to NixOS VM tests → https://git.io/vhmMf
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<sphalerite>
:( 4 days of building and endless OOM restarts later, the closure of pandoc has an actual error in it
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<tfc[m]>
hey there. i have a very minimal example nix-expression that does build locally, but not on my hydra. most probably because i do not really understand how hydra executes nix expressions. the minimal example is here: https://github.com/tfc/hello_test - i told hydra to please evaluate `release.nix` there. and the problem that i get is the following one: `attribute 'pkgs' missing, at
<tfc[m]>
[1m/nix/store/lnkqps2ck3sc4g5ykz6xpl3m3cvcb0vh-hello_test/default.nix[0m:2:4` if i let it evaluate `default.nix`, everything works...
<tfc[m]>
any idea?
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<tfc[m]>
i bet in my `inherit nixpkgs;` something different happens than i hope to happen, but i also have no clue how to debug this.
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<sphalerite>
What's the state of hercules? Since "The goal of the 1.0 milestone is to run Hercules as a CI for Github Pull Requests.", has it pretty much been superseded by ofborg?
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<ij>
if you manually add something in /etc, will it persist after reboot or config switching?
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<JasonGrossman>
ij: After reboot, I think yes. After config switching, no.
<JasonGrossman>
ij: I assume you're asking about NixOS, not Nix. It's one of the main design goals of NixOS that the state of the system should only depend on NixOS's configuration files (to the extent that that's possible).
<ij>
I'm familiar with both. My friend that's new to NixOS is telling me that his imperative edit didn't disappear (yet), so I'm just wondering why.
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @Mic92 pushed 2 commits to release-18.03: https://git.io/vhm5b
<freusque>
Hello, say I wanted ghcWithPackages with enableSharedLibraries=true
<freusque>
how would one go about providing this programatically?
<ij>
jasongrossman, he's saying it persists between rebuild switches
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<JasonGrossman>
ij: I've just tested it and he's right and I was wrong. I think that's a bug!
<elvishjerricco>
freusque: What do you mean? enableSharedLibraries sets a cabal flag in the haskell derivation. ghcWithPackages just gives you a GHC, it doesn't set any cabal flags
<symphorien>
rebuild switch will erase any file it manages, but the other are fine
<ij>
ah
<symphorien>
And reboot counts as rebuild switch
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<symphorien>
So you /etc/nix/nix.conf will be overwritten, but not /etc/foo
<ramses_>
On running a nixos-rebuild, python 2.7 is being build from source and fails after running tests for quite a while. Is this intended behaviour? I haven't seen this before
<jD91mZM2>
ramses_: What channel are you using?
<ramses_>
jD91mZM2: nixos-18.03-small
<freusque>
elvishjerricco: mmh, thanks, I guess I need to read up some more on the haskell nixos architecture
<freusque>
any useful pointers I should be aware of besides the nixpkgs manual?
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<jD91mZM2>
ramses_: Small packages contain fewer binary packages. That means that it's not suprising that python isn't cached for whatver reason
<ramses_>
I misread, it's python2.7-cffi which is being build from source. I wouldn't mind but the build fails
<jD91mZM2>
ramses_: It'd be nice of you to PR a fix to the package then :)
<tfc[m]>
anyone experience with hydra? i have a very very simple expression that does not build, and i don't know how to reproduce that locally or debug.
<lewo`>
tfc[m]: in the details of the job, you can find the path of the derivation. Did you try to "nix-store --realize" it?
<tfc[m]>
lewo`: i have not. one moment, let me see.
<norfumpit>
error: attribute ‘fetchFromGitHub’ missing, at /nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels/nixos/nixpkgs/lib/modules.nix:163:28
<norfumpit>
im getting the above error on trying to import fetchFromGitHub
<norfumpit>
any clues, tips?
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<tfc[m]>
lewo`: i'm afraid i cannot find the path of the derivation... where do i need to click?
<steveeJ>
what influences the toolbar themes of libreoffice? mine look like they're from the first graphical computer, also with tiny fonts
<lewo`>
tfc[m]: there is the "derivation store path"
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[nixpkgs] @7c6f434c pushed to master « olm: fix build by disabling _FORTIFY_SOURCE »: https://git.io/vhmbR
<tfc[m]>
lewo`: ok. i see what you mean. my problem is that the derivation itself cannot be created. because of an error in the nix expression itself. it's not a build error.
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<lewo`>
tfc[m]: I don't know what are these "github checkout". Is it an input type?
<tfc[m]>
lewo`: so when i do not provide `nixpkgs` as a parameter to `default.nix` in the file `release.nix`, it works. but when i provide it as parameter, it does not work with the known error message. i do not understand what's the difference that makes it fail.
<tfc[m]>
lewo`: yes it's an input type. let me make a screenshot. one moment plz
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<lewo`>
tfc[m]: you could also get some information in hydra-evaluator logs
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<tfc[m]>
lewo`: how to access these quickly? via some `journalctl` param?
<lewo`>
tfc[m]: journalctl -u hydra-evaluator I think
<tfc[m]>
lewo`: hm it contains errors from the past where it could not reach git repos or similar. but not the error i am currently riddled by. :-(
<jD91mZM2>
norfumpit: And how are you running this?
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<norfumpit>
jD91mZM2: it's imported from the main nixos configuration.nix file
<jD91mZM2>
try using pkgs.fetchFromGitHub
<jD91mZM2>
(Although, tip: you should try to use overlays over package overrides :))
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<norfumpit>
jD91mZM2: I'm new to this, don't know about overlays. all i'm trying to do here is include a theme with the ttrss installation. just another file to download, and unpack after install
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<tfc[m]>
lewo`: sorry i was out for lunch. the thing is... the `nix` and `officialRelease` inputs are unlikely to be consumed by my nix expr. or are you looking at the different nixpkgs branch ?
<norfumpit>
jD91mZM2: that gives me an infinite recursion error though
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<Orbstheorem>
Hi, I was wondering if there's any reason why there's no source archive like debian which host an a copy of the sources of every packages
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @wucke13 opened pull request #41171 → elmer: init at version 8.3 → https://git.io/vhYTH
<LnL>
all sources are in the cache
<theColourGreen>
I'm getting "error: out of memory" when running "nixops deploy -d myHaskellApp" against an ec2 instance. Anyone recognize this? Tried putting "echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory" on the server but it still crashes (albeit not with that message)
<LnL>
there's just no difference between a package and it's sources
<LnL>
that's just a wrapper around fetchurl, nothing special about it
<Orbstheorem>
Oh, so it clones and archives a copy of the repository?
<Orbstheorem>
Cool ^^
<LnL>
yeah, github has a special endpoint to download a source tarball for a given revision
<LnL>
most of those fixed output derivations is that they have allowSusbstitutes = true; so nix will use the upstream urls by default, but they are available in the cache
<LnL>
err, mangled my sentence a bit there
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<theColourGreen>
@LnL Only one webserver
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<LnL>
hmm, memory usage should be kind of reasonable then
<theColourGreen>
@LnL Yeah I'm awfully confused about this. I have been looking if there's a way to expecitly allow more memory for the copying process bu havn't found any info
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<theColourGreen>
@LnL Also cranked the working memory on the server to 10gig and have been monitoring it, and it seems to be completely fine.
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<teto1>
theColourGreen: it also can be a lack of drive space
<LnL>
you can try GC_INITIAL_HEAP_SIZE=10G nixops ... but I'd be surprised if that's the problem
<theColourGreen>
@teto1 I actually got an "out of memory" error. Running nix-collect-garbage solved that, but it deserves investigating. Do you know how to ask NixOS how much space is available?
<theColourGreen>
@teto1, Hahaha, this is amazing. How did I manage to consume 3gigs? Running df -h gives "/dev/disk/by-label/nixos 3.0G 2.8G 20M 100% /"
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<theColourGreen>
@teto1 Thanks for bringing that up. I wonder what went wrong with this... I cannot possibly have 3gigs of binary dependencies
<teto1>
the memory error could mention if it's RAM or drive space
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<teto1>
when I experienced it, my first thought was a ram problem (as nix 2 used to be greedier)
<theColourGreen>
I thought so too. Never had a thought about disk space. Do you think it will be fine to simply upp the disk space in the config file (I assume this is possible, do not know how though)?
<teto1>
theColourGreen: depending on the provider it might be possible to hack a bit and extend it, in my case I just upped the libvirt drive size and recreated the vm
<norfumpit>
jD91mZM2: thanks, that works now. how would you recommend approaching the unpacking of the src I added ? some kind of post install step (attribute)
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<teto1>
norfumpit: jumping in but if you want to download several files you can use srcs = [] instead of src =
<theColourGreen>
@teto1 It's on ec2 so I can't do any VM magic I think. The instance is created by nixops so I'm _guessing_ there's a way to specify disk space
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<norfumpit>
teto1: I did that, now I have to unpack the second download into the appropriate folder
<teto1>
norfumpit: you can add a "name" to the src so that on unpack they don't collide, then in unpackPhase you can cp one source folder into the other
<teto1>
you might have to set "sourceRoot" too
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<pacmeister>
Hello, is it generally preferable to install packages in configuration.nix or with nix-env? Thanks!
<norfumpit>
teto1: postUnpack?
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[nixpkgs] @LnL7 pushed to master « cmake: fix darwin build »: https://git.io/vhYYY
<teto1>
pacmeister: configuration.nix is simpler and safer. I use nix-env to quickly test programs that I then either move to configuration.nix or remove
<teto1>
arf castxml can't find <string.h> 'fatal error: 'string' file not found', I've tried building with clangStden, added as a propagatedBuildInputs llvmPackages.libcxx :'(
<norfumpit>
will the tt-rss installPhase which uses $out survive my change of src to srcs?
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[nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed commit from Timo Kaufmann to python-unstable « python: Fix upstream bugs #27177 and #25750 »: https://git.io/vhYOO
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[nixpkgs] @FRidh opened pull request #41177 → Python: interpreter changes and package updates → https://git.io/vhYOX
<theColourGreen>
@LnL Shouldn't 3gb be enough to deploy a project? If stuff is configured correctly? The entire folder with all deps (reflex platform and such) is about 300mb
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[nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed to master « FRidh as owner of update-python-libraries »: https://git.io/vhY3T
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<LnL>
yeah
<LnL>
but it scales linearly with the amount of machines, that's why I asked about the size earlier
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[nixpkgs] @FRidh pushed 40 commits to python-unstable: https://git.io/vhY3E
<theColourGreen>
@LnL Alright, that's good to know. Then I guess something is way off with some configuration
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[nixpkgs] @xeji pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « speedtest-cli: 2.0.0 -> 2.0.1 (#41041) »: https://git.io/vhYsh
<theColourGreen>
@LnL Trying to deploy to a fresh install and monitoring the output of df -h shows that the "out of memory exception" is gotten with 2.6/3.0gb (92%) used and 236M free. Is it resonable that the 236 last mbs wont be used and this is the ceiling of my available memory?
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[nixpkgs] @xeji pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « memcached: 1.5.7 -> 1.5.8 (#41110) »: https://git.io/vhY8c
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<sonne>
is there an alias to whatever is the most recent configuration that you can use on the linux CLI?
<sonne>
i'd like for nixos to be booted from another grub without chainloading, so i can't rely on knowing the configuration ID
<clever_>
sonne: grub has a source command, so you can just source the grub config nixos generates
<clever_>
sonne: the only issue there, is that the grub config cant load modules, so you have to pre-load all grub modules it may need prior to sourcing
<sonne>
clever_: that's what i meant by chainloading
<sonne>
i'm sorry for the misunderstanding
<clever_>
you can also load the kernel and initrd from /nix/var/nix/profiles/system/
<clever_>
but the kernel cmdline is harder to get
<clever_>
its in a file in there, and i dont know if grub can read a file and use it as kernel args
<sonne>
clever_: that could be a possible path
<clever_>
and that relies on being able to follow symlinks when your /nix may not mount directly at /
<sonne>
which it won't
<sonne>
not on grub at least..
<clever_>
so you have to convince grub that a /nix/store/ symlink in the nix filesystem should be read at /store
<clever_>
that will create a dumb /boot/default/kernel and /boot/default/initrd
<sonne>
clever_: that wouldn't fix the CLI problem though would it
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<clever_>
yeah, that method entirely ignore kernel params
<tfc[m]>
can i somehow configure NixOS in a way that it does only consume packages from binary caches? i want to test if my binary cache works and i have one little nixos VM that shall act as a cache consumer
<sonne>
so it would be a way to circumvent it?
<clever_>
sonne: it should still boot without kernel params, it just means you cant configure them from configuration.nix
<sonne>
clever_: i'm fine with that
<clever_>
tfc[m]: if you run `nix-store -r /nix/store/foo` on a storepath, without having given it expressions on how to build it, then its only option is to download from the binary cache
<tfc[m]>
clever_: oh that is nice, ok. so i would copy the full path name from hydra, right?
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<clever_>
tfc[m]: yeah
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<sonne>
clever_: just to explain, this is my situation: my bios (libreboot) can decrypt my root partition and boot linux from it with a hardcoded CLI. a password is required for other boot options, and to run arbitrary GRUB commands. if i just source another config file it would be a security problem.
<clever_>
sonne: it would be no less secure then running i_am_not_a_virus.bin that was renamed to /boot/default/kernel
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<sonne>
clever: that would require someone to root the laptop first though
<sonne>
the kernel is in an encrypted partition after all
<clever>
sonne: the same as sourcing a config file after you decrypt the real boot partition
<sonne>
well not really - in the default grub.cfg you can just 'c' and do whatever you want
<tfc[m]>
clever_: is it correct that i would just add the url that my hydra store listens on as trusted cache and that should be it already?
<sonne>
unless i replicate the security measures i have in the bios in the OS grub.cfg, which is worse maintenance-wise
<clever>
tfc[m]: and also add the key that the hydra signs with
<clever>
sonne: if they hit c prior to the bios unlocking things, then they have no more access then if they just ripped the drive out of the machine
<clever>
sonne: and if they hit c after the bios has unlocked it, then they have the password?
<sonne>
clever: see above: "a password is required for other boot options, and to run arbitrary GRUB commands"
<tfc[m]>
clever: thx. i was just a bit puzzled that "channels" do not seem to be a thing any longer. is that correct?
<sonne>
the bios unlocks and runs /vmlinuz or whatever is in its internal grub.cfg noninteractively
<clever>
tfc[m]: channels are only a way to get the nix expressions, they have no real link to the binary caches
<clever>
sonne: ah, let me find the right link...
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<clever>
sonne: there was a guy in here a month or 2 ago with a very similar problem, and he used kexec to solve it
<sonne>
clever: !
<tfc[m]>
clever: oh, i see. so no matter what happened before with channels, i need to add my server as binary cache.
<clever>
tfc[m]: yeah
<sonne>
clever: your generationsDir solution seems a lot cleaner to be honest :P
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<tfc[m]>
clever: thx!
<clever>
sonne: the last guy with this issue, had a shadow boot partition, that would appear whenever the drive is locked, and it would boot a second OS from there, which asks for the pw
<sonne>
if the latest configuration is always booted that's enough for me - if i want to boot earlier configs i can always unlock the other grub options and chainload the cfg
<sonne>
clever: that seems problematic.. it would leave the door open for an evil maid attack
<sonne>
clever: tried 'linux /boot/nixos-kernel systemConfig=/boot/nixos-init ; initrd /boot/nixos-initrd', kernel panic unable to mount root D:
<clever>
sonne: try without any systemConfig
<clever>
just an entirely empty kernel params
<clever>
2018-03-02 10:01:20< ottidmes> clever: For sedutil to do its thing I cannot have access to the SSD, so far I have been rebooting into a LiveCD everytime I wanted to configure the SSD with sedutil (other than unlocking), but I was thinking, shouldn't I be able to use your rescue netboot example so that I can boot into that, do the configuration, and kexec back into the kernel on the SSD after I am done?
<clever>
ah, it was ottidmes
<clever>
sedutil is a linux program for unlocking the hdd encryption
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<sonne>
clever: asks for passphrase, mounts root, panics :P
<sonne>
this time the stacktrace is too long though and i can't scroll, so i have no idea why it does
<clever>
sonne: if you add boot.debug1 to the kernel params, what does it do?
<sonne>
clever: yup, definitely need to do that - booting into normal mode
<clever>
that will include modules in the initrd, and it will auto-load them as needed
<sonne>
clever: do you know which modules i need by memory?
<clever>
check lsmod to see all those in use, anything with usb, hci, or hid in the names are likely of use
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<clever>
you can lsmod again inside the initrd once its working to confirm which ones its using
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<sonne>
clever: it's strange though - linux can ask me for the passphrase to mount /, so the keyboard should work
<clever>
oh right
<clever>
debug1 happens before it loads modules
<montag451__>
exit
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<clever>
sonne: one sec
<clever>
sonne: boot.debug1devices will load the modules, then "fail"
<sonne>
very well
<sonne>
clever: ok i'm in it
<lejonet>
Hmm, if I want to write a script, that is stored in the store, that refers to derivations, how would I easiest do that? builtins.toFile seemingly doesn't allow referring to derivations in it (I want to write a bash script that uses util-linux logger instead of echo)
<sonne>
i suppose i should select 'f', interactive shell with pid 1
<sonne>
clever: i'm in the shell, what now?
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<clever>
sonne: f or i work, f just gives you the option to manually exec the real init
<clever>
sonne: read the stage-1-init.sh i linked above, and poke arround to see what its doing and how it fails
<sonne>
clever: on it
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<sonne>
but then the script would be already loaded and wouldn't reflect my changes
<clever>
and now that i look closer, i can see that this default isnt right
<clever>
you may need init=/nix/var/nix/profiles/system/init
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<Guanin>
Hi, I have written a python script with a nixshell shebang. what would be the best approach to run it with a timer as a specific user? Just defining the timer to run it?
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<sonne>
clever: from the shell i mounted and exec'd switch_root /mnt-root /nix/var/nix/profiles/system/init - it booted
<sauyon>
probably just writing the timer unit and sticking it in the user unit loc'n
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<sonne>
clever: i'll try doing that directly from grub, but i expect it to work - which reminds me of the other thing i wanted to ask: how do i make the passphrase prompt visible? :P
<sauyon>
wait
<sonne>
(no biggie if not supported, i can just keep typing the passphrase blindly into the bootsplash, it would just be neat)
<sauyon>
you can write the user in options.systemd.user.services
<sauyon>
s/ user / unit /
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<clever>
sonne: turn off the boot splash?
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<sonne>
clever: i figured maybe there was some cool prompt-in-the-splash thing :)
<sonne>
BTW < clever> you may need init=/nix/var/nix/profiles/system/init <--- i confirm that this works perfectly
<sonne>
so my original question is answered :)
<sonne>
thank you!
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<sauyon>
and then link the unit to ~/.config/systemd/user/default.target.wants
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<cryp2nomicon>
hello. How can we do android development in nixos? i tried to follow the wiki but the IDE has problem and could not build a demo android app
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<sauyon>
hrm.
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<bottombear>
Hi, what options determine how many generations are kept?
<tilpner>
bottombear - All are kept by default
<sauyon>
setting sourceroot to a subdirectory of the source results in unpackPhase failing because the parent directories aren't chmod'd
<tilpner>
Though you can pass options to nix-collect-garbage and nix.gc.options about how much to free
<sauyon>
is that intended?
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<tilpner>
sauyon - You can disable unpackPhase in "phases", or overwrite it with a no-op: unpackPhase = ":";
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<sauyon>
ok, thanks
<sauyon>
feels odd though
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<parsnip>
i forgot what to put after "-A", in `nix-env -iA nixpkgs emacs`
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<snot>
hello, I've recently installed NixOS on my laptop (longtime Arch user) and most things works perfectly. I would like to install citrix-receiver and I've found it in the nixpkgs collection, but I have no clue on how to install. Any pointers?
<{^_^}>
[nixpkgs] @globin merged pull request #41018 → [k8] fix: connect the --bind-address arg to the cfg.apiserver.address option → https://git.io/vhk1t
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<clever>
mjrosenb: that one is always hiding unfree software
<mjrosenb>
clever: that being said, how do I check if I enabled nonfree packages? I thought I enabled them, but since I can't find oraclejdk, I'm tempted to believe I didn't enable them
<mjrosenb>
unless it is not available on osx
<clever>
mjrosenb: oraclejdk isnt available on osx
<clever>
all the package does is patch the linux .tar.gz
<clever>
so it wont work on mac
<drakonis>
mjrosenb, its on your settings
<drakonis>
gotta set it up on your configuration file and environment
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<mjrosenb>
drakonis: right. I've done that, but I'd like to ask nix if nix believes that I've enabled it.
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<drakonis>
if it is enabled, searching for it will show it
<mjrosenb>
error: attribute 'allowUnfree' missing, at (string):1:27
<mjrosenb>
well then.
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<clever>
mjrosenb: also note that configuration.nix has its own setting for that
<clever>
which only effects the nixpkgs used within configuration.nix
<mjrosenb>
I have it set in ~/.config/nix/config.nix
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<clever>
its only looking for ~/.config/nixpkgs/config.nix
<boothead>
Hi folks, I have really odd issue that's hosed my laptop for several weeks now. I've installed again from scratch (wiped the /nix/store and installed from the set up disk image). Every time I nixos-rebuild switch I seem to be overwriting the grub files or something and messing up EUFI because even the old generations won't work. I get dropped into a console login and then get kernel messages about blocking rcu_node structure
<boothead>
Any pointers?
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<mjrosenb>
I reported that wrong, it *is* in .config/nixpkgs/config.nix
<LnL>
mjacob: I think openjdk works
<mjrosenb>
the place where I saw the path in my shell was truncated.
<clever>
mjrosenb: does the file behind $NIXPKGS_CONFIG exist?
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<mjrosenb>
clever: I don't have that env var set.
<maurer>
mjrosenb: pastebin your config.nix, just to make sure the file is right?
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<jD91mZM2>
boothead: That's weird, it shouldn't do that without --install-bootloader
<jD91mZM2>
How's your boot partition set up?
<jD91mZM2>
Size, mount point, etc
<clever>
jD91mZM2: if the grub version differs from what is on-disk, it can reinstall the bootloader automatically
<jD91mZM2>
clever: Oh
<boothead>
now it won't boot again (well it will, but I get dropped into an essentially un-responsive console session) so I'll need to boot from the live cd, set everything up again and run the install before I can debug the exact problem
<boothead>
... and it's sunny and it's a bank holiday and I have beer, so it might have to wait :-)
<clever>
boothead: you can also use `nixos-enter` and then `nixos-rebuild boot` from the install cd, so reinstall faster
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<jD91mZM2>
clever: Isn't that basically what nixos-install does? Or does it do anything else?
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<boothead>
Ah nice - didn't know that! Do you have to mount all the disks under /mnt first clever ?
<sonne>
so i have installed a package through home-manager as unpriv user, the files show up on /nix/store/...../ as owned by 'root' but the package isn't installed globally. what is this sorcery?
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<clever>
sonne: thats just how nix works, anything any user installs is put in /nix/store and owned by root
<sonne>
clever: what's keeping me from putting a suid program there then?
<clever>
sonne: no setuid binaries are allowed in the store
<sonne>
i see
<clever>
sonne: all installations are done by a non-root user, and then nix-daemon chowns it to root after its done
<sonne>
interesting
<sonne>
and that's how you do user environments then?
<clever>
the user environment is just a directory that the ~/.nix-profile symlink points to
<clever>
which is usually managed with nix-env
<sonne>
i see
<sonne>
thanks
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<Unode>
hi all, I'm trying to disable tests for findutils on 18.03 using: http://dpaste.com/2XXFT8X but tests are still being triggered. Is there something wrong with my derivation? I don't understand why this has no effect.
<Plato[m]>
Question: nixos-rebuild switch --update seems to _always_ create a new generation, even if nothing upstream or configuration-wise changed. Why?
<clever>
Unode: what about doCheck = null; ?
<Unode>
clever: testing... takes a couple of minutes
<clever>
Plato[m]: can you run `ls -l /nix/var/nix/profiles/` ?
<Plato[m]>
clever: I'm in the middle of such an upgrade, I will return with results after that finishes.
<clever>
Unode: and `nix-build '<nixpkgs>' -A findutils` also fails?
<Unode>
trying
<Unode>
clever: yes also runs tests
<clever>
Unode: what about checkPhase = ":"; ?
<Unode>
clever: adding that to already existing doCheck = null;
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<ThatPako>
Could someone help me with setting up my printer? I enabled cups and added the canon drivers to my system packages but I can't find the printer in the cups interface :/
<clever>
ThatPako: you have to add the drivers to services.printing.drivers
<ThatPako>
clever: I added the drivers to services.printing.drivers and rebuilt but cups still won't display my printer in "discovered network printers" :/
<clever>
ThatPako: that doesnt sound like a driver issue
<ThatPako>
hm...
<Unode>
clever: any idea? I'm still clueless.
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<clever>
Unode: as am i
<jD91mZM2>
Unode: You could override phases
<jD91mZM2>
to not include checkPhase
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<Unode>
jD91mZM2: got any snippet? don't know how to do that.
<jD91mZM2>
phases = ["unpackPhase" "buildPhase"]
<jD91mZM2>
and then any other phase you want to keep
<clever>
installPhase, fixupPhase are also needed
<jD91mZM2>
Like configurePhase I think might be useful
<clever>
that too
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<Unode>
and if I leave phases empty nothing should happen?
<clever>
Unode: and if it still fails, pastebin the entire output of the console when it failed
<clever>
if phases is empty, it should use the default phases
<Unode>
is there any phase that would cause it to fail early? I'm wondering if my derivation is being used at all...
<clever>
Unode: the output nix prints when failing should answer that question
<Unode>
if I make a syntax error it complains but overriding phases doesn't seem to have any effect either.
<clever>
Unode: can you pastebin the entire console output?
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<Unode>
wtf... just patched the file pkgs/tools/misc/findutils/default.nix to read "doCheck = false;" and tests still went through
<clever>
Unode: did you tell it to use the new nixpkgs path?
<Unode>
should be using what is my default channel no?
<clever>
and how did you modify that?
<Unode>
ah hold on, patched the 17.09 instead
<clever>
you should never be modifying any file in nix/store
<Unode>
clever: I'm modifying my git checkout of the nixpkgs tree.
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<Unode>
Not using nix-channel here since I had to modify a recipes to have them compile on this system.
<Unode>
*a few recipes
<Unode>
ok, now it worked
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<Unode>
... still clueless as to why the override didn't work.
<clever>
same
<Unode>
if I'm using nix-daemon, even if by chance the build user is using a different nixpkgs tree, this shouldn't affect overrides, or should it?
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<clever>
Unode: the nix expressions are no longer in the picture once things reach nix-daemon
<clever>
Unode: the user running nix-build will eval all expressions, convert them into .drv files, and forward the .drv files to nix-daemon, which puts them into the store
<clever>
and then its al .drv files from then on
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<Unode>
but so the user still has control over what is put inside the .drv no?
<clever>
yeah
<clever>
and thats based on the nix expressions, and that users config.nix
<Unode>
which means overrides play a role at the user level. In other words, what I have here should (at first sight) have worked right?
<clever>
yes
<Unode>
puzzled :)
<clever>
very
<Unode>
thanks again for all the help
<Unode>
am I perhaps using the wrong override function?
<clever>
sir_guy_carleton: X isnt running until after the display-manager has started, so xrandr will fail when ran before
<alex[m]3>
Hey folks, does anyone know if it's possible to get a working wayland & gnome shell setup running at the moment or should I just wait for the various issues around wayland support to be resolved?
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<sir_guy_carleton>
hmm, i'm trying to get my dual monitor working correctly, and the one way i found it works properly is with xrandr commands after a user logins
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<clever>
sir_guy_carleton: you can either configure nixos to run it after you login (the login page wont be on the right monitors), or you can somehow configure the DM to run the cmd, or you can configure a default in xorg with xrandrHeads
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[nixpkgs] @xeji pushed commit from @r-ryantm to master « mcelog: 157 -> 158 (#41112) »: https://git.io/vhYQT
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<infinisil>
,ask krey
<{^_^}>
krey: Just ask your question. It's the best way to know if anybody can help.
<jtojnar>
worldofpeace: okay
<mjrosenb>
clever: I assume the reason that it doesn't work on OSX is that nobody has written the utility to patch executables on OSX? (or is it that mach-o has some features that prevent patching?)
<worldofpeace>
jtojnar: I suggested moving gconf out of gnome3 into a different set called 'abandonware'. Is that still on the table?
<worldofpeace>
* You
<krey>
kodi (video player) segfaults and I think it's related to this
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<krey>
it says ERROR: Failed to find matching visual
<jtojnar>
worldofpeace: I definitely want to move it out
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<krey>
if I google the glxinfo error, the solutions I find are all about reinstalling libgl
<krey>
which doesn't make a lot of sense on NixOS
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<clever>
mjrosenb: the util for patching things on mac is called otool
<clever>
mjrosenb: the problem is just that nobody has written a nix derivation that runs otool against the darwin build of oraclejdk
<krey>
what can I do to debug/fix this issue?
<iqubic>
I'm getting issues where Netflix has stopped working on the latest Firefox version in NixOS.
<mjrosenb>
clever: this sounds like a fun project.
<jtojnar>
worldofpeace: I like the abandonware idea but it should probably be discussed first
<jtojnar>
possibly open an RFC
<krey>
all my links are purple
<iqubic>
60.0.1 and Netflix don't seem to work together for me anymore.
<worldofpeace>
jtojnar: The dreaded RFC. You also stated, and I agree, that these electron apps are repeating themselves and a new function would be useful.
<mjrosenb>
I guess if I want to do that, I should check out the full tree of nix packages.
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<clever>
worldofpeace: i have patched a "mac" electron app for linux before, all i did was extract the JS from the .pkg file, then run the linux build of electron against it via pkgs.electron
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<mjrosenb>
ok, I believe that I've been running into this problem: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/1865 -- does anyone know if there is a workaround for it?
<worldofpeace>
lots of these could be these electron apps could be built from source also. less of this deb unpack unhollyness
<worldofpeace>
jtojnar: that's all the discussion I have time for but please maybe open more issues? I'm interested in helping.
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[nixpkgs] @xeji pushed commit from @bfortz to master « minergate-cli: init at 8.2 (#41143) »: https://git.io/vhY53
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[cabal2nix] @ryantm opened pull request #352 → hackage2nix: set homepage to Hackage → https://git.io/vhY5u
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[nixpkgs] @ryantm opened pull request #41185 → use https for default Hackage homepage → https://git.io/vhY52
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<tfc[m]>
hey there. i would like the repository from which i build code in my hydra service to decide which nixpkgs version it shall be based on. but i am running into restricted mode restrictions. is there any possibility to circumvent that elegantly?
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<clever>
tfc[m]: is your code on github?
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<tfc[m]>
clever: that specific code is not on github. i am using `builtins.fetchTarball` to get a specified version of nixpkgs. it would already be of great help if you hinted me at some project that solves this problem, then i will be happy to learn from that. :)
<nico202>
have you tried guix? Is it using nix under the hood or is another implementation of the same idea?
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<LnL>
yes it uses the same implementation just a different frontend
<MichaelRaskin>
Not sure if it is still true
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<nico202>
So the advantages are that there's no possibility of installing nonfree software? But for a smaller package selection and less support?
<MichaelRaskin>
Well, some people like Guile more both as the builder language and as the package expression language
<elvishjerricco>
The last merge of staging into master broke a ton of builds. When someone thinks it's time to merge staging into master, why don't we check that the merged version passes Hydra?
<elvishjerricco>
BEFORE actually pushing the merge to master, that is
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<LnL>
I made a stabilisation pr for staging but somebody else merged staging in blindly to get people to fix stuff
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<nico202>
elvishjerricco: yeah I don't get why we still get broken packages so frequently
<MichaelRaskin>
Just for fun, we have rustc failing nondeterministically anyway
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<elvishjerricco>
Now my GHCJS PR is blocked on waiting for other stuff to get fixed. I'm sure there's a lot of other PRs in the same state. Doesn't seem like a good process to me
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[cabal2nix] @peti merged pull request #351 → fetchOrFromDB: Show which source failed when calling `fail` → https://git.io/vhY7P
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[nixpkgs] @peti merged pull request #41185 → use https for default Hackage homepage → https://git.io/vhY52
<__monty__>
Friendly Language Uncle For Life aka barry.
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<MichaelRaskin>
I think archetypical BDFL project is Linux
<__monty__>
Yeah, you're right but that doesn't allow me to work FLUFL into the conversation ; )
<iqubic>
What is BDFL?
<MichaelRaskin>
Benevolent dictator for life
<iqubic>
The GNU project has Stallman as the BDFL.
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<MichaelRaskin>
Nix project seems to be a case study in draining the mental bandwidth of BDFL by too many requests for decisions.
<iqubic>
Who's the dictator of the Nix project?
<gchristensen>
elvishjerricco: it is tough, but we do merge >1,000 prs/mo
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<MichaelRaskin>
iqubic: Eelco Dolstra, the founder. Technically, for _Nix_ the package manager there is a currently running experiment where Nix Core team tries to make collective decisions with a single veto being overridable
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[nixpkgs] @matthewbauer merged pull request #41121 → set low priority for man-pages package → https://git.io/vhq9C
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[nixpkgs] @matthewbauer pushed commit from @jerith666 to master « man-pagess: set low priority for man-pages package (#41121) »: https://git.io/vhOeZ
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[nixpkgs] @LnL7 pushed to master « gdk-pixbuf: also patch binaries in dev output for darwin »: https://git.io/vhOep
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hey, i'm new to nixos and right now i have the plasma up and running but i'm trying to get a full kde dektop installed... is there a command to install it all?
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