23:47 <samueldr> what's with the 5.8 upgrade requiring a systemd upgrade?

23:47 <samueldr> (a bit off-topic for here I presume, it's more for systemd itself)

23:48 <samueldr> doesn't that point to the kernel breaking userspace?

23:48 <samueldr> I can't find a changelog for 245.7

23:49 <samueldr> these are the commits https://github.com/systemd/systemd-stable/compare/d55f53e95646174f3b5921e920e9210c5af43856...v245.7

23:50 <samueldr> the reason I'm asking here is because it somehow seems to be common knowledge in the sequence of event that systemd needs to be upgrade, but I can't seem to find a note as to why

23:51 <samueldr> there's https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1853736

23:52 <samueldr> ah, now I understand the issue https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1853736#c2

23:52 <samueldr> so if I understand it right, it's not strictly needed, but makes our tests fail, and part of systemd fail ungracefully

23:53 <samueldr> meaning that I have some other issue with a device I'm upgrading to 5.8