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<flokli>
IMHO, as annoying gpg is, it's the most common denominator, and we should definitely provide a gpg contact, at least until other tooling is well-distributed on all platforms. I don't think that's currently the case.
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<gchristensen>
*sigh* probably
<flokli>
:-)
<gchristensen>
(is age not well distributed?)
<hexa->
(lol, nope)
<gchristensen>
this is fine
<gchristensen>
we can just have people encrypt messages to me using my SSH public key
<gchristensen>
that is well distributed
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<flokli>
gchristensen: let's define well-distributed with "there's a plugin for Apple Mail and Thunderbird" :-P
<gchristensen>
ehhhhh I don't really care to optimise for that, actually
<flokli>
:-P
<gchristensen>
those plugins are sort of dangerous even
<flokli>
gchristensen: oh, you can also add it to evolution-data-server natively
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<qyliss>
Thunderbird is going to have it built in soon
<gchristensen>
my preferred workflow is to save the file and decrypt
<qyliss>
Does that work with PGP/MIME?
<gchristensen>
I'm not sure, but it hasn't ever failed to work
<qyliss>
Hmm, okay
<gchristensen>
if you want to mail me a test email I can try it :)
<qyliss>
It's definitely basically impossible to send modern PGP email without a client plugin
<gchristensen>
hrm
<qyliss>
(or built-in client support, of course)
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<gchristensen>
well, I guess then I should definitely remove my GPG key then, since I don't use a client which supports it -- and another tool for encryption would be better
<Valodim>
fwiw, inline pgp does still work
<LnL>
do you actually need a client?
<gchristensen>
qyliss says yes
<LnL>
not that I have all that much experience with it in general, but the plugin for my client just puts the message in an attachment
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<gchristensen>
I'm inclined to believe her
<gchristensen>
she is serious about good mail stuff
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<LnL>
I always assumed all that stuff is for convenience
<LnL>
at the end of the day an email is still a text file with some headers, so I would expect you could strip out the pgp section and decrypt it separately
<Valodim>
pgp/mime is structured encrypted mail
<Valodim>
whereas "pgp/inline" is a retronym for "putting pgp ascii armored data in a mail message"
<Valodim>
so yes, to send pgp/mime you need client support
<Valodim>
but pgp/inline is generally still around and supported by clients
<gchristensen>
does the pgp/mime version not appear as an attachment?
<Valodim>
it does, for clients that don't support it
<LnL>
right for sending, but what about receiving/decrypting
<Valodim>
so on the receiving side, you can copy the text for pgp/inline, or open the attachment for pgp/mime
<gchristensen>
ah yeah so for receiving, I just download and decrypt
<Valodim>
yes
<gchristensen>
for sending, I usually copy in an armored blob
<Valodim>
yup, that'd be "pgp/inline"
<gchristensen>
yeah
<Valodim>
pretty annoying to deal with for mail clients that want to support it "structurally" :D but that's kind of a solved problem at this point