pie_ changed the topic of #nixos-rust to: buildRustPackage is wrong. | the ops are those who op those who donut op themselves
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<Ericson2314> pie_: have you seen https://github.com/rust-lang/wg-cargo-std-aware ?
<Ericson2314> I thought i posted about that
<Ericson2314> but scrolling up didn't see it
<Ericson2314> Xargo is deprecated in lieu of that finally, finally happening
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<pie_[bnc]> Ericson2314: you mentioned it in the rust issue
<pie_[bnc]> Ericson2314: if it ever happens :P
<Ericson2314> ah ok
<Ericson2314> haha yeah really
<Ericson2314> pie_[bnc]: Also I made a crate2nix issue earlier
<Ericson2314> and carnix issue before that
<Ericson2314> :D
<pie_[bnc]> hm?
<Ericson2314> you were asking about grants before, this would be a great one to do
<pie_[bnc]> hm?
<Ericson2314> well funding, not grants
<Ericson2314> A proposal saying 1) rustup is a cludge 2) cargo caching sucks 3) rustc build system is too complex
<pie_[bnc]> yeah but i mean what would be good to do, also not sure what you menat by carnix and c2n issues
<pie_[bnc]> aha
<Ericson2314> I wrote issues there mentioning using the build-std stuff
<pie_[bnc]> aha
<pie_[bnc]> tbf i still have barely any idea how any of this works ;_;
<Ericson2314> nix + the std-aware stuff (which has had a number of PRs landed, just been small steps) would be really nice
<Ericson2314> Well, learning and demonstrating the knowledge is sadly the thing no one will pay you to do
<Ericson2314> except for GSOC
<Ericson2314> and similar
<pie_[bnc]> yeah
<Ericson2314> (We probably should be doing nix GSOC, come to think of it)
<pie_[bnc]> due to some unrelated personal history i dont have the confidence to wing it though
<pie_[bnc]> being constantly surrounded by good tech people leaves me thinking how could i possibly get paid for the kind of stuff *i* do xD
<pie_[bnc]> Ericson2314: so who do i submit the proposal to? :P
<Ericson2314> mozilla is kinda tight on funding atm and they are getting build-std stuff fro free
<Ericson2314> nlnet has done a bunch of Nix stuff in the past
<pie_[bnc]> also i imagine people are not into part time unknown time horizon stuff, and i really could use the flexibility -_-
<Ericson2314> well, present too
<Ericson2314> people like part time when it means it is cheap per unit time
<Ericson2314> a lot of open source work has high latency with like getting PRs reviewed and things
<pie_[bnc]> heh :P
<Ericson2314> so being able to spread out the work so something else can pay you so you don't starve while you wait for someone to respond helps
<pie_[bnc]> down side of getting paid per hour or per task is they pay in change eh? :P
<Ericson2314> Well I mean all the work being able to happen all at once is usually rather fictious
<Ericson2314> in highly collaborative things