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<gchristensen> NGI Pointer will fund very open topics but around the following specific predefined areas: Privacy-by-design; Internet of Things; Network optimization; Virtualization and isolation; Limitations in the TCP/IP protocol suite; eCommerce security; Autnomous Network operations and control; and Energy Efficiency.
<gchristensen> "Autnomous Network" are they talking bgp or what? what do y'all think?
<hexa-> I think the autonomous is more related to operations and control
<gchristensen> I think you're probably right
<hexa-> self-healing and what not
<cransom> self healing. such an ambitious word for tech that knows to use a pre-configured backup mechanism. there's nothing healed. but hey, if we get gel packs like in voyager that fix themselves, sounds great. all in.
<andi-> isn't retry (and back-off) the definition of self-healing? :)
<cransom> but marketing can't sell exponential backoffs :)
<gchristensen> sure it can
<gchristensen> its self healing!
<makefu> until the self-healing mechanism performs an auto-immune reaction
<cransom> self healed in the face.
<makefu> easy-mode DoS
<asymmetric> has anyone installed nixos on a wifi access point?
<danderson> autonomous networking is the next buzzword after SDN
<danderson> it's about packing more software into the network to handle more faults without human intervention
<cransom> ML defined networks, sounds great.
<danderson> linecard throwing errors? Central control plane notices, decides it has enough redundant capacity, drains the linecard and opens a break-fix ticket
<cransom> a neuron just fired where i hear and see ving rhames pops in my head from mission impossible 'one of those thinking machines, super computers? with the 686 risc chips?'
<hexa-> asymmetric: access points rarely have more than 16 or 32M of flash
<cransom> `Thinking Machine laptops, I’m talking
<cransom> about the 686 prototypes … with the
<cransom> gah. lame embedded returns.
<cransom> artificial intelligence Risk chip
<hexa-> SNR in this channel is shit right now btw
<danderson> but as usual for these innovations, "autonomous networking" is code for "fewer pesky humans on payroll, because our software won't require maintenance!"
<danderson> I mean, there's not really that much to say about nixos on your router. I have nixos on my router, s'fine, works...
<asymmetric> hexa-: that's a good point about memory size
<asymmetric> i suppose the turris omnia would be a good candidate
<hexa-> asymmetric: that is flash size
<hexa-> memory is more along the lines of 128/256/512M if your picking a god router
<cransom> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K1qn60X2HI is the last i heard of nix being on an embedded/ap sized device.
<hexa-> s/god/good/
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