<gchristensen>
NGI Pointer will fund very open topics but around the following specific predefined areas: Privacy-by-design; Internet of Things; Network optimization; Virtualization and isolation; Limitations in the TCP/IP protocol suite; eCommerce security; Autnomous Network operations and control; and Energy Efficiency.
<gchristensen>
"Autnomous Network" are they talking bgp or what? what do y'all think?
<hexa->
I think the autonomous is more related to operations and control
<gchristensen>
I think you're probably right
<hexa->
self-healing and what not
<cransom>
self healing. such an ambitious word for tech that knows to use a pre-configured backup mechanism. there's nothing healed. but hey, if we get gel packs like in voyager that fix themselves, sounds great. all in.
<andi->
isn't retry (and back-off) the definition of self-healing? :)
<cransom>
but marketing can't sell exponential backoffs :)
<gchristensen>
sure it can
<gchristensen>
its self healing!
<makefu>
until the self-healing mechanism performs an auto-immune reaction
<cransom>
self healed in the face.
<makefu>
easy-mode DoS
<asymmetric>
has anyone installed nixos on a wifi access point?
<danderson>
autonomous networking is the next buzzword after SDN
<danderson>
it's about packing more software into the network to handle more faults without human intervention
<cransom>
ML defined networks, sounds great.
<danderson>
linecard throwing errors? Central control plane notices, decides it has enough redundant capacity, drains the linecard and opens a break-fix ticket
<cransom>
a neuron just fired where i hear and see ving rhames pops in my head from mission impossible 'one of those thinking machines, super computers? with the 686 risc chips?'
<hexa->
asymmetric: access points rarely have more than 16 or 32M of flash
<cransom>
`Thinking Machine laptops, I’m talking
<cransom>
about the 686 prototypes … with the
<cransom>
gah. lame embedded returns.
<cransom>
artificial intelligence Risk chip
<hexa->
SNR in this channel is shit right now btw
<danderson>
but as usual for these innovations, "autonomous networking" is code for "fewer pesky humans on payroll, because our software won't require maintenance!"
<danderson>
I mean, there's not really that much to say about nixos on your router. I have nixos on my router, s'fine, works...
<asymmetric>
hexa-: that's a good point about memory size
<asymmetric>
i suppose the turris omnia would be a good candidate
<hexa->
asymmetric: that is flash size
<hexa->
memory is more along the lines of 128/256/512M if your picking a god router