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<worldofpeace> hpfr: if you have flathub added per the docs it works exactly as it should
<worldofpeace> very helpful sometimes
<worldofpeace> Jan Tojnar: gnome-calendar should be crashy anymore on the latest point release right?
<jtojnar> worldofpeace: was there new release yet?
<jtojnar> hmm, there was .2
<jtojnar> but it only merged according to changelog
<jtojnar> IIRC fedora had multiple patches
<worldofpeace> I'll PR that. I just noticed it was really crashy and that's sooo annoying. lol, it would be like this with gnome core apps. not to undervalue but it's like they're always racing to be usable
<jtojnar> that's what you get for using C
<jtojnar> I was trying to port an old GTK app to GTK 4 few days ago and am still bitter about it
<jtojnar> it just crashed all the time and it was written by more experienced GNOME devs than myself
<worldofpeace> using C for this is like walking into a room full of mouse traps 😸 Oh right GTK 4 is out! The one good thing in 2020 right at the end
<jtojnar> yeah, and they added GStreamer and Shader widget ☚ī¸
<jtojnar> like a separate libraries would not be good enough
<jtojnar> * like separate libraries would not be good enough
<worldofpeace> they're addicted to just throwing everything in one bin
<worldofpeace> ahh, the elementary project is soo responsive
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<jtojnar> worldofpeace: I thought Meson replaces the prefix variable like this automatically
<jtojnar> hmm, cannot find any reference for that in the source code or docs
<jtojnar> not sure where I heard it
<worldofpeace> Jan Tojnar: you know for some reason I heard of this as well
<worldofpeace> I'm not sure if it would be the best choice though, maybe better to just veer on the explicit side for that kind of thing
<hpfr> every time I shut down my gnome machine I get "A stop job is running for User Manager" for several minutes until (I'm assuming) whatever is hanging finally receives the nuclear option. how might I debug this?
<worldofpeace> It sounds like something is up with the session takedown? I remember pantheon having this problem.