<ldlework> it's so annoying, it's like direnv just stops working after a while
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<selfsymmetric-mu> ldlework: Yeah?
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<ldlework> yeah the only way to fix it, is to restart emacs
<ldlework> not great
<selfsymmetric-mu> ldlework: Oof. I haven't run into that yet. I use lorri with it.
<ldlework> Same.
<ldlework> It just starts reporting that it can't find "node" and things like that.
<ldlework> Even though I see the message of all the environment variables and stuff, when I switch to that buffer, etc.
<selfsymmetric-mu> No kidding? Yeesh.
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<etu> Org-mode has a new website: https://orgmode.org/
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<rycee> Umm, anybody who's had experience debugging slow Emacs shutdown?
<selfsymmetric-mu> rycee: My advice is to send a SIGUSR2 signal to Emacs if you're on a Unix system.
<selfsymmetric-mu> `kill -SIGUSR2 $(pidof emacs)` should do it. It ought to throw Emacs into the debugger, allowing you to see what it is attempting to do.
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<rycee> selfsymmetric-mu: Thanks! I gave it a try and didn't see anything obvious. It gave me the idea to attach strace, though, and it might have something to do with writing ucs-cache and/or recentf files.
<stites> hey all -- I'm having some trouble using this overlay on debian -- would any one be able to help me?
<stites> namely, I get a segfault whenever I run emacs 27.1, gdb emacs says that it doesn't recognize the binary so I thought that the binary's architecture was stripped and tried to resolve with `dontStrip=true;` but that doesn't seem to be working
<selfsymmetric-mu> rycee: Good luck!
<selfsymmetric-mu> stites: Fascinating. Have you tried emacsUnstable or emacsGcc? Maybe one of those will work for you.
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<stites> emacsGcc is currently working, but I'm noticing that parinfer is buggy, not sure how deep the bugs live. Is it generally considered stable?
<stites> *is it considered /relatively/ stable?
<selfsymmetric-mu> stites: I have been using it quite heavily, but I needed to down grade to emacsUnstable twice in the last few months due to failing builds.
<selfsymmetric-mu> stites: Unfortunately I do not use parinfer, so I cannot help you there.
<selfsymmetric-mu> stites: I could try it though. Is it good for Emacs Lisp?
<stites> I guess it's supposed to be? tbh I'm just a few months in to my switch over from vim and have just been using parinfer because i listened to a podcast about it
<stites> Here are some critiques which seem like a long read, but the "downsides" gifs don't really seem like downsides to me: https://github.com/noctuid/parinfer-notes
<stites> selfsymmetric-mu: Here's the link to the main repo: https://github.com/DogLooksGood/parinfer-mode/
<stites> ugh, I'm hiting the same problem from before with regular emacs where these goddamn google fonts are blocking emacs or slowing them down
<stites> I actually can't close gccemacs because they are not loaded and strace shows:
<stites> 15:09:57.714203 access("/home/stites/.nix-profile/share/fonts/truetype/AdobeBlank-Regular.ttf", R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) <0.000120>
<stites> because I have removed google fonts
<stites> if I add google-fonts to home-manager (separate from the emacs build) everything works fine, but loading these fonts takes like 30s
<stites> and the silence of opening up an org file is like nails on a chalkboard when it goes to load these ttfs
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<selfsymmetric-mu> stites: Ah yes, I had the same problem!! Good thing you found it.
<selfsymmetric-mu> Anytime I loaded a buffer with a Unicode character Emacs would freeze trying to find a font for it.
<selfsymmetric-mu> I use the good-old paredit for Lisp editing.
<selfsymmetric-mu> I found that installing `pkgs.symbola` (a font with good Unicode support) and reducing the number of fonts in general fixed my performance problems.
<selfsymmetric-mu> Admittedly it is a silly issue and I hope gets fixed somewhere. Even a warning.
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