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<disasm> globin: should I go through any failing python builds that work with python 2 but not 3 and mark them as disabled for python 3?
<globin> disasm: we'll go through the rest of the builds tomorrow and mark them as broken :)
<disasm> globin: is that better than marking as disabled if it builds with a certain version?
<globin> disasm: in the python case I'd disable them
<globin> but generally we'll go through the list when we think we're ready
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<disasm> ah k, cool :)
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<pxc1> q
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<FRidh> is it ok to put certain executables that are in /bin in $dev ?
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<LnL> why, the out output is propagated by dev
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<gchristensen> niksnut: does nix-daemon log to stdout? or just stderr?
<niksnut> stderr
<gchristensen> _phew_ :) I'd love to add more debugging to the remote build tooling when it wants to use a remote builder but can't for some reason. interested?
<LnL> :D
<LnL> it's probably the build hook that you need to modify
<gchristensen> depends if I try patching 1.12 too :)
<LnL> that still has a build hook, it's just in c++ instead of perl
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<niksnut> hm, do we still need instance store AMIs?
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<domenkozar> niksnut: in case you missed my question: do you have some code to build nixops based deployments on hydra?
<niksnut> what does that mean?
<domenkozar> that hydra would eventually do: nixops deploy --build-only
<niksnut> no
<domenkozar> should be able to work it out with some dummy values
<niksnut> yeah, shouldn't be too hard
<niksnut> hm, any objections to including the nvidia kernel modules in the EC2 AMIs?
<niksnut> obviously that's unfree, but EC2 is proprietary anyway...
<gchristensen> 1) what would it save? 2) instance store AMIs are pretty well on their way out, unfortunately :)
<gchristensen> sorry... what would packaging the nvidia kernel module with the AMI save?
<Mic92> btw. why do we not strip go binaries?
<niksnut> it's so that you don't have to reboot to load the kernel module (in the common case where the kernel in the AMI is slightly different from the one in the deployment)
<niksnut> however, it wouldn't help in the case where the nvidia driver version differs (since then libGL will mismatch with the kernel module)
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<clever> domenkozar: i have loaded eval-machine-info.nix in nix-repl before
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<LnL> hmm, I canceled a build in hydra but it's not aborted on my osx builder
<clever> LnL: hydra doesnt stop active builds when canceled
<clever> LnL: it only removes them from the queue so they cant start in future
<LnL> huh, really?
<clever> it also hides it from nearly every "in progress" ui
<LnL> never noticed that before
<clever> so the gui lies and makes you think it stopped
<LnL> well but the machines overview shows you what's running
<clever> nope
<clever> thats one of the many places it hides it
<LnL> ah, maybe that's just fixed now then
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<LnL> launchctl uncache ... # Command is not yet implemented.
<LnL> plz
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<dtzWill> i think if builder has newer Nix (maybe hydra too) it does cancel it properly, but could be mistaken
<dtzWill> maybe I just hoped that it did :D
<LnL> oh right, it's not running 1.12 yet
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<LnL> my evaluation is suddenly failing with "Jobset contains a job with an empty name"
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