puck changed the topic of #nixcon to: Thanks everyone for watching NixCon 2020! | Stream recordings available to watch! @ https://conf.tube/videos/watch/playlist/1745ce14-f4ba-463e-b3e4-9cd007579a6f | ad-hoc breakout rooms https://cryptpad.piratenpartei.de/code/#/2/code/edit/nNNcnWiDb1S0EYH3fTYo+FoM/
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<Raito_Bezarius> I know everyone is moving to Libera, so I will ask now and maybe I will reask once I get the time to setup Libera :> is it still planned to cut the videos of NixCon into specific talks?
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<qyliss> I'd be surprised if that's still on any of the organisers' radars
<qyliss> but today is maybe not a good day to ask, since everybody's plate is going to be extra full.
<hexa-> lol :D
<hexa-> SumnerEvans[m]: people will inevitably move to another IRC
<hexa-> (in addition to matrix)
<Raito_Bezarius> SumnerEvans[m]: yeah there is already #nixos-* on libera afaik
<Raito_Bezarius> so I guess there will be briding
<MichaelRaskin> Yes
<Raito_Bezarius> bridging *
<Raito_Bezarius> qyliss: true
<hexa-> unlikely
<qyliss> possible
<hexa-> the bridging experience was never /great/
<SumnerEvans[m]> I hope not. IRC is terrible tbf
<andi-> matrix is a shitshow.
<Raito_Bezarius> Same for Matrix :>
<hexa-> lmao
<hexa-> I'm in the IRC camp :p
<andi-> 2:1 - IRCD wins
<andi-> 3:1
<andi-> fight!
<Raito_Bezarius> let's hope we can get through this without fighting :p
<SumnerEvans[m]> Especially when the vast majority of the community is on Matrix, then the IRC people always complain.
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<immae> The real issue with matrix for me was when I reached ~20 rooms, it started to go super slow (like ~30s just to load the app), so I came back to IRC
<qyliss> I'm in a bunch of Matrix rooms with weechat-matrix and haven't had any slowness so far
<andi-> SO far I've always been able to reach almost everyone on IRC I needed for working on nixpkgs/nixos. I've seen plenty of new faces on matrix and not many of the old ones on Matrix.
<SumnerEvans[m]> immae: I haven't had such an experience. Initial sync is quite slow, but after that, it's snappy.
<SumnerEvans[m]> Also, there is work on a new version of the sync API that has lazy loading which will fix most of the initial sync issues
<immae> qyliss: I cannot do everything in weechat-matrix (can you?), so I have to open the webapp now and then to do stuff
<immae> and that’s when I have to be super-patient...
<SumnerEvans[m]> andi-: well, that's changing rapidly. grahmc is spearheading the Matrix migration, fore xample.
<SumnerEvans[m]> *for example
<Raito_Bezarius> To be fair, end to end encryption just broke the state of the web app and if I reset, I lose the keys so it's kind of broken
<qyliss> I've been able to do everything I've wanted to do in weechat-matrix, but my needs are fairly straightforward.
<andi-> SumnerEvans[m]: I'm on matrix for when I need it but I plan to reduce my reliance on it to a minimum.
<immae> Maybe I lack documentaion then
<SumnerEvans[m]> Raito_Bezarius: when was the last time you tried to use encryption in Element? It has improved greatly in the past year.
<immae> because I’m already stuck at just discovering or joining channels for instance
<Raito_Bezarius> SumnerEvans[m]: 2 years ago
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<SumnerEvans[m]> Oh, well, it's approximately 10x better now lol
<hexa-> immae, qyliss: would use that as well, but it clashes with weeslack, some weird error in pythons ssl lib :<
<SumnerEvans[m]> they implemented cross-signing which allows you to only verify the other person in a DM once, and key backup which allows you to backup your keys (encrypted) so you can restore them to other sessions
<immae> hexa-: make sure that you load slack and then matrix
<immae> and it works fine
<Raito_Bezarius> I will give it a try then
<immae> (until you reload slack, then you need to reload matrix)
<hexa-> lmao
<hexa-> I'll try that
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<immae> (+ usual stuff about being ~up to date with python)
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<nbathum> Raito_Bezarius: specific talks is still on my backlog. I am gathering the timestamps and I believe conf.tube will be able to split them from there
<gchristensen> nbathum: can someone help you with that?
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<nbathum> sure?
<nbathum> as an example, for day 1 morning, here is the data for the last talk
<nbathum> Bantyev,1h20m32s,1h57m12s
<nbathum> I can post this for day one, I have them all. -_- sorry didn't post
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<nbathum> hrmm. I thought I completed all of day 1 but I apparently did not
<qyliss> nbathum++
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<Raito_Bezarius> nbathum++
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